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Men need to stop the hate against women

 
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I'm from Miami one of the most superficial places in America.

This is pretty spot on. That's why I know a lot of women down there that get their fixes from different people. A man to screw, a man to chew the fat with, a man to do the things they like to do, and then whatever needs to be filled in just gets pulled from all three.

I'm not a stereotypical Black guy, even though on paper I am. I have a criminal record because I internalized abuse for so long that I flipped out one day and had to "pay" for it ever since. No sympathy for what drove me there, no holding people accountable for child abuse because I'm an adult and somehow Freudian trauma based freak outs are somehow the fault of the PERSON and not the society and environment that they were raised in. Not looking for consoling or blaming anybody. I'm just saying that it's not just OUR faults. This is BY DESIGN. It's just a way to keep us dependent on a system that could give two shits about any of us.

I've been that guy. I've been the shoulder, I've been the dick, and I've been the cash cow (although they didn't need much some of them). I'm tired. I just want to be a person. Seems like the only way that I can at this point is by myself. I'm cool with that until I find a person who is cool with that as well.

We have to be people FIRST.
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so sorry for all this. I know you're not looking for pity, but it made me so sad and very angry on your behalf.
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I'm not angry about it anymore. Just tired. So tired. Tired of the ignorance, tired of the intolerance, tired of the labels. I've been an outsider my whole life. I just learned to accept it. I'm good. Thank you for reading and sharing your thoughts. I appreciate those that take the time to listen to others. It shows that you're a person and not a better than.

PEACE
 Quoting: acegotflows


Well it still makes me cry. And I'm grateful you saw and wrote back.
And to think this - Thread: Christian Bible EXPOSED!!!! (Page 15) might have been our last exchange.

And I would have been just another in a long list of contributors to your tiredness and outsider-ness. I hope [and pray] that you can someday live the life that you ,IMO, were intended to live and that all your wonderful qualities will not go to waste and be appreciated.hugs
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I deal with energy and not people. I can't deal with people because people don't even know how to deal with themselves. I come as a person, so there fore it is never PERSONAL to me. It can't be. I just state the facts, tell my honest opinion and leave it as is. I took this pic months ago at one of my shows when I was about 50-60 lbs heavier

Peace

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"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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so sorry for all this. I know you're not looking for pity, but it made me so sad and very angry on your behalf.
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I'm not angry about it anymore. Just tired. So tired. Tired of the ignorance, tired of the intolerance, tired of the labels. I've been an outsider my whole life. I just learned to accept it. I'm good. Thank you for reading and sharing your thoughts. I appreciate those that take the time to listen to others. It shows that you're a person and not a better than.

PEACE
 Quoting: acegotflows


Well it still makes me cry. And I'm grateful you saw and wrote back.
And to think this - Thread: Christian Bible EXPOSED!!!! (Page 15) might have been our last exchange.

And I would have been just another in a long list of contributors to your tiredness and outsider-ness. I hope [and pray] that you can someday live the life that you ,IMO, were intended to live and that all your wonderful qualities will not go to waste and be appreciated.hugs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10858311


I deal with energy and not people. I can't deal with people because people don't even know how to deal with themselves. I come as a person, so there fore it is never PERSONAL to me. It can't be. I just state the facts, tell my honest opinion and leave it as is. I took this pic months ago at one of my shows when I was about 50-60 lbs heavier

Peace

:allergic:
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Guess I got told.
Nevertheless, peace to you too.
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Here is women:

I treat a girl right, take her places, buy her things, treat her with respect.

She cheated on me.

I turn the other way she comes crawling back.

Now I treat her like garbage, make her pay for everything, degrade her sexually and emotionally and am unfaithful.

She can't get enough of me.
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I'm not angry about it anymore. Just tired. So tired. Tired of the ignorance, tired of the intolerance, tired of the labels. I've been an outsider my whole life. I just learned to accept it. I'm good. Thank you for reading and sharing your thoughts. I appreciate those that take the time to listen to others. It shows that you're a person and not a better than.

PEACE
 Quoting: acegotflows


Well it still makes me cry. And I'm grateful you saw and wrote back.
And to think this - Thread: Christian Bible EXPOSED!!!! (Page 15) might have been our last exchange.

And I would have been just another in a long list of contributors to your tiredness and outsider-ness. I hope [and pray] that you can someday live the life that you ,IMO, were intended to live and that all your wonderful qualities will not go to waste and be appreciated.hugs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10858311


I deal with energy and not people. I can't deal with people because people don't even know how to deal with themselves. I come as a person, so there fore it is never PERSONAL to me. It can't be. I just state the facts, tell my honest opinion and leave it as is. I took this pic months ago at one of my shows when I was about 50-60 lbs heavier

Peace

allergic
 Quoting: acegotflows

Guess I got told.
Nevertheless, peace to you too.
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I just deal with energy. People are people. I don't pick sides other than PEOPLE. I'm a very loving person, but I don't argue to prove points. I just say what I feel is relevant and if people care to argue without looking into it then it just becomes sad to me. You're not a bad person. NOBODY is a bad person. We just get some messed up wiring sometimes. Gotta deal with it. I've been labelled my whole life. Learning disabled, retard, black, etc. Name it and I've been it at some point. I just got tired of it. You can't keep going without getting tired. I got SO tired. I started telling the truth, not tired so much, feeling better, lost weight and life seems like I could actually DO something with it. Shame it took me to 31 to figure it out, but hey in due time right.

Peace and love. Hope your day is well and thank you for sharing. It is appreciated and has brightened my day. Some people are actually decent when given the chance
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Well it still makes me cry. And I'm grateful you saw and wrote back.
And to think this - Thread: Christian Bible EXPOSED!!!! (Page 15) might have been our last exchange.

And I would have been just another in a long list of contributors to your tiredness and outsider-ness. I hope [and pray] that you can someday live the life that you ,IMO, were intended to live and that all your wonderful qualities will not go to waste and be appreciated.hugs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10858311


I deal with energy and not people. I can't deal with people because people don't even know how to deal with themselves. I come as a person, so there fore it is never PERSONAL to me. It can't be. I just state the facts, tell my honest opinion and leave it as is. I took this pic months ago at one of my shows when I was about 50-60 lbs heavier

Peace

:allergic:
 Quoting: acegotflows

Guess I got told.
Nevertheless, peace to you too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10858311


I just deal with energy. People are people. I don't pick sides other than PEOPLE. I'm a very loving person, but I don't argue to prove points. I just say what I feel is relevant and if people care to argue without looking into it then it just becomes sad to me. You're not a bad person. NOBODY is a bad person. We just get some messed up wiring sometimes. Gotta deal with it. I've been labelled my whole life. Learning disabled, retard, black, etc. Name it and I've been it at some point. I just got tired of it. You can't keep going without getting tired. I got SO tired. I started telling the truth, not tired so much, feeling better, lost weight and life seems like I could actually DO something with it. Shame it took me to 31 to figure it out, but hey in due time right.

Peace and love. Hope your day is well and thank you for sharing. It is appreciated and has brightened my day. Some people are actually decent when given the chance
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I like your attitude.
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Here is women:

I treat a girl right, take her places, buy her things, treat her with respect.

She cheated on me.

I turn the other way she comes crawling back.

Now I treat her like garbage, make her pay for everything, degrade her sexually and emotionally and am unfaithful.

She can't get enough of me.
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why bother? sounds like you both don't even like each other.
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I deal with energy and not people. I can't deal with people because people don't even know how to deal with themselves. I come as a person, so there fore it is never PERSONAL to me. It can't be. I just state the facts, tell my honest opinion and leave it as is. I took this pic months ago at one of my shows when I was about 50-60 lbs heavier

Peace

allergic
 Quoting: acegotflows

Guess I got told.
Nevertheless, peace to you too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10858311


I just deal with energy. People are people. I don't pick sides other than PEOPLE. I'm a very loving person, but I don't argue to prove points. I just say what I feel is relevant and if people care to argue without looking into it then it just becomes sad to me. You're not a bad person. NOBODY is a bad person. We just get some messed up wiring sometimes. Gotta deal with it. I've been labelled my whole life. Learning disabled, retard, black, etc. Name it and I've been it at some point. I just got tired of it. You can't keep going without getting tired. I got SO tired. I started telling the truth, not tired so much, feeling better, lost weight and life seems like I could actually DO something with it. Shame it took me to 31 to figure it out, but hey in due time right.

Peace and love. Hope your day is well and thank you for sharing. It is appreciated and has brightened my day. Some people are actually decent when given the chance
 Quoting: acegotflows


I like your attitude.
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likewise hf
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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There are always sooooo many women-bashing threads here on glp.
It is a surprise when there is not a misogynist thread posted here.
There are not even 1% of the same kind of man bashing threads here.
Men, don't you realize that women come to this forum too? But with all the hate you are chasing them away. Intense anger, and damaging words are more damaging on women than for men, it seems, although that is not good for anyone.
I could say porn has warped a lot of men's minds and made them hate women more.
But ultimately, you men have to deal with your anger without blaming. That is the only way things will change for you.
There is also a thread posted now about an ex marine newscaster who assaulted his wife. Those threads accompany the threads about how men hate women. There is a pattern. men are not dealing with their anger in a constructive way.
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I think you just have to face the fact that there is a lot of "conservative" religious/patriarchal BS on this website, and that much of the male anger here stems from males' inability to control women the same way their parents and grandparents did.

Women graduate with college degrees more than men do. They are increasingly being accepted into jobs traditionally reserved for males only. This makes a lot of men resentful and angry to see women becoming more successful than them, acting independently, and holding men to high standards than previous generations.

And then, of course, there is sometimes just the plain old awkward loser like the 31 year old virgin from earlier today who thinks all women are "devils" just because he can't figure out how to talk to any. I imagine that type of person has probably just been around since the dawn of time...
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The son of a friend of my wife's found an attractive woman. They got married. Had a baby. Sadly the woman decided that the man's Russian language was not to be leaned by the baby. The Russian grandfather was not permitted to teach grandchild Russian. Lot's of arguments occured. The marriage broke down. The man left the woman, but continue to provide financial support. The woman decided she didn't want anything to do with the father of her baby so she called the police and claimed physical abuse. The father is now fighting for his life to remain apart of his child's life.

I see this story repeated over and over again. Women will resort to any kind of lies to get their own way. Many, many women are evil!!
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There are always sooooo many women-bashing threads here on glp.
It is a surprise when there is not a misogynist thread posted here.
There are not even 1% of the same kind of man bashing threads here.
Men, don't you realize that women come to this forum too? But with all the hate you are chasing them away. Intense anger, and damaging words are more damaging on women than for men, it seems, although that is not good for anyone.
I could say porn has warped a lot of men's minds and made them hate women more.
But ultimately, you men have to deal with your anger without blaming. That is the only way things will change for you.
There is also a thread posted now about an ex marine newscaster who assaulted his wife. Those threads accompany the threads about how men hate women. There is a pattern. men are not dealing with their anger in a constructive way.
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Pull your head of your ass. The hate isn't for women. It's for feminazi whores in usa. It's justified and they deserve 10 times worse.
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Well it still makes me cry. And I'm grateful you saw and wrote back.
And to think this - Thread: Christian Bible EXPOSED!!!! (Page 15) might have been our last exchange.

And I would have been just another in a long list of contributors to your tiredness and outsider-ness. I hope [and pray] that you can someday live the life that you ,IMO, were intended to live and that all your wonderful qualities will not go to waste and be appreciated.hugs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10858311


I deal with energy and not people. I can't deal with people because people don't even know how to deal with themselves. I come as a person, so there fore it is never PERSONAL to me. It can't be. I just state the facts, tell my honest opinion and leave it as is. I took this pic months ago at one of my shows when I was about 50-60 lbs heavier

Peace

:allergic:
 Quoting: acegotflows

Guess I got told.
Nevertheless, peace to you too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10858311


I just deal with energy. People are people. I don't pick sides other than PEOPLE. I'm a very loving person, but I don't argue to prove points. I just say what I feel is relevant and if people care to argue without looking into it then it just becomes sad to me. You're not a bad person. NOBODY is a bad person. We just get some messed up wiring sometimes. Gotta deal with it. I've been labelled my whole life. Learning disabled, retard, black, etc. Name it and I've been it at some point. I just got tired of it. You can't keep going without getting tired. I got SO tired. I started telling the truth, not tired so much, feeling better, lost weight and life seems like I could actually DO something with it. Shame it took me to 31 to figure it out, but hey in due time right.

Peace and love. Hope your day is well and thank you for sharing. It is appreciated and has brightened my day. Some people are actually decent when given the chance
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Just the fact that you saw what I posted makes me happy, and if I brightened your day, you brightened my day too.
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I deal with energy and not people. I can't deal with people because people don't even know how to deal with themselves. I come as a person, so there fore it is never PERSONAL to me. It can't be. I just state the facts, tell my honest opinion and leave it as is. I took this pic months ago at one of my shows when I was about 50-60 lbs heavier

Peace

:allergic:
 Quoting: acegotflows

Guess I got told.
Nevertheless, peace to you too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10858311


I just deal with energy. People are people. I don't pick sides other than PEOPLE. I'm a very loving person, but I don't argue to prove points. I just say what I feel is relevant and if people care to argue without looking into it then it just becomes sad to me. You're not a bad person. NOBODY is a bad person. We just get some messed up wiring sometimes. Gotta deal with it. I've been labelled my whole life. Learning disabled, retard, black, etc. Name it and I've been it at some point. I just got tired of it. You can't keep going without getting tired. I got SO tired. I started telling the truth, not tired so much, feeling better, lost weight and life seems like I could actually DO something with it. Shame it took me to 31 to figure it out, but hey in due time right.

Peace and love. Hope your day is well and thank you for sharing. It is appreciated and has brightened my day. Some people are actually decent when given the chance
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Just the fact that you saw what I posted makes me happy, and if I brightened your day, you brightened my day too.
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[link to www.jw.org]
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Guess I got told.
Nevertheless, peace to you too.
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I just deal with energy. People are people. I don't pick sides other than PEOPLE. I'm a very loving person, but I don't argue to prove points. I just say what I feel is relevant and if people care to argue without looking into it then it just becomes sad to me. You're not a bad person. NOBODY is a bad person. We just get some messed up wiring sometimes. Gotta deal with it. I've been labelled my whole life. Learning disabled, retard, black, etc. Name it and I've been it at some point. I just got tired of it. You can't keep going without getting tired. I got SO tired. I started telling the truth, not tired so much, feeling better, lost weight and life seems like I could actually DO something with it. Shame it took me to 31 to figure it out, but hey in due time right.

Peace and love. Hope your day is well and thank you for sharing. It is appreciated and has brightened my day. Some people are actually decent when given the chance
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Just the fact that you saw what I posted makes me happy, and if I brightened your day, you brightened my day too.
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[link to www.jw.org]
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[link to www.jw.org]
not too far. I'm not mobile because it's a bill I don't need at this point. acegotflows@yahoo.com Drop me a line. or 50. afro
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The son of a friend of my wife's found an attractive woman. They got married. Had a baby. Sadly the woman decided that the man's Russian language was not to be leaned by the baby. The Russian grandfather was not permitted to teach grandchild Russian. Lot's of arguments occured. The marriage broke down. The man left the woman, but continue to provide financial support. The woman decided she didn't want anything to do with the father of her baby so she called the police and claimed physical abuse. The father is now fighting for his life to remain apart of his child's life.

I see this story repeated over and over again. Women will resort to any kind of lies to get their own way. Many, many women are evil!!
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That is evil.
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They say they hate women but unless they are gay they still want to stick there dick in one. Why put your dick in something you despise? I don't get it.
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They say they hate women but unless they are gay they still want to stick there dick in one. Why put your dick in something you despise? I don't get it.
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Its actually a lack of hate, a hope, that this time this woman will be decent that drives a man to try again. Yes, one part of trying again requires that he stick his dick in her. Women, though they will try to deny it, expect this, demand it, and want it that way.
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There are always sooooo many women-bashing threads here on glp.
It is a surprise when there is not a misogynist thread posted here.
There are not even 1% of the same kind of man bashing threads here.
Men, don't you realize that women come to this forum too? But with all the hate you are chasing them away. Intense anger, and damaging words are more damaging on women than for men, it seems, although that is not good for anyone.
I could say porn has warped a lot of men's minds and made them hate women more.
But ultimately, you men have to deal with your anger without blaming. That is the only way things will change for you.
There is also a thread posted now about an ex marine newscaster who assaulted his wife. Those threads accompany the threads about how men hate women. There is a pattern. men are not dealing with their anger in a constructive way.
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I agree. People will defend gays and bash women at the same time. I started a thread about how some dude was talking shit about this really beautiful girl that we saw at they gym. Everyone jumped on the thread to call me a fag and saying that I was in the wrong. I love women, everything about them. It will be a cold day in hell when I put down a beautiful girl and stick up for a fag at the same time.
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YUP

women say they want flowers, say they want a nice guy, say they want to be treated with respect, etc

but when a guy does all those things, they don't WANT him sexually anymore, because he's now a chick
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34755954

I'm from Miami one of the most superficial places in America.

This is pretty spot on. That's why I know a lot of women down there that get their fixes from different people. A man to screw, a man to chew the fat with, a man to do the things they like to do, and then whatever needs to be filled in just gets pulled from all three.

I'm not a stereotypical Black guy, even though on paper I am. I have a criminal record because I internalized abuse for so long that I flipped out one day and had to "pay" for it ever since. No sympathy for what drove me there, no holding people accountable for child abuse because I'm an adult and somehow Freudian trauma based freak outs are somehow the fault of the PERSON and not the society and environment that they were raised in. Not looking for consoling or blaming anybody. I'm just saying that it's not just OUR faults. This is BY DESIGN. It's just a way to keep us dependent on a system that could give two shits about any of us.

I've been that guy. I've been the shoulder, I've been the dick, and I've been the cash cow (although they didn't need much some of them). I'm tired. I just want to be a person. Seems like the only way that I can at this point is by myself. I'm cool with that until I find a person who is cool with that as well.

We have to be people FIRST.
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so sorry for all this. I know you're not looking for pity, but it made me so sad and very angry on your behalf.
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I'm not angry about it anymore. Just tired. So tired. Tired of the ignorance, tired of the intolerance, tired of the labels. I've been an outsider my whole life. I just learned to accept it. I'm good. Thank you for reading and sharing your thoughts. I appreciate those that take the time to listen to others. It shows that you're a person and not a better than.

PEACE
 Quoting: acegotflows

hf
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I've read (on numerous occasions) comments from AC's saying they refuse to pay for a membership here because of the blatant and profuse misogynist posts on the wall every day - why pay for misogyny when you can get it free at GLP?

A valiant effort OP :)
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hf
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OP - should have titled this thread:

"Feminists need to stop the hate and misandry against men"

Would have been more fitting.
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Further proof of Women needing to stop their Misandry against men...

Thread: The war on men
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Further proof of Women needing to stop their Misandry against men...

Thread: The war on men
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This thread was about the hate filled threads posted regularly on glp. It was how this hatred and anger was seen in overt displays of violence by men against women in society.
Women are not posting many threads saying that men are evil. Women are not getting together in gangs and raping men, and ripping out their intestines, etc.
There is no 'war on men' happening here at glp. There is a 'war on women' happening here through these numerous women-bashing threads.

This thread was not about general frustrating issues between the sexes.

And this thread about misandry just details what has been happening to women, people of colour, people of different religions etc, forever. Men are just now starting to get a taste of what it is like to be 'other'. And of course they don't like it. But women have been experiencing it forever.

The way out of this mess is through being vulnerable to reveal feelings in a non threatening way, trust and active listening. All people need to work on themselves first and foremost. Only then can an honest and open dialogue, without name calling and without bullying, happen.
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"All anger comes from fear. Men fear the vagina."

That's cause it's guishy and looks like an alien being-\
A potential predator.
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It's a beautiful thing when a man ages enough to no longer be ruled by his dick. Nothing is more refreshing than seeing what most women really are and realizing that it's just not worth it.

The best part is when they realize that they no longer have the power over you that they once had, and that they better pony up with something else in the relationship or hit the bricks.

Women today have earned every bit of the hate. The day that good women start telling bad women that they are wrong for doing what they do, is the day the healing can begin. Till then, you all will be lumped into the same pit by most men as selfish, manipulative, gold diggers.
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I will repost most of that I posted on the other thread (with one typo correction):


Many divorced guys who were of the nice variety finally had the rose colored glasses YANKED off them when they were going through their respective divorces ... and once the "TRUTH" is finally known it can never be forgotten.

The current statistics are 70% of all married women HAVE ALREADY HAD AN AFFAIR ... so if one excludes the newly weds, the much older generation and the uglies the odds say that MOST average to above average women have ALREADY slept around on their husbands (probably 90% to 95%). It is just the way the female brain is wired. She wants her man to be faithful, but SHE is not faithful.

Another interesting statistic, one from the NIH from a study in the late 90's is that if a woman has had 5 sex partners prior to her husband the odds her marriage lasting more than 10 years is only 30%. (the majority of women today in their early 20's?). By 15 sex partners ... it has dropped precipitously from those already low levels.

The younger generation of males (those under 35) are wising up FAST that marriage is a one way street, GREAT for the woman but an almost guaranteed losing proposition for the male, particularly if you are a male who is on the ball, going to be or already are successful, and are a nice person. When the now almost inevitable divorce comes (divorce rates are climbing for the younger set even as they delay marriage further and further out), the male is going to be on the recieving end of a focking the likes of which is little understood until you have been through it.

OH ... and the "double standard" when it comes to everything about relationships is still alive and well: She hits the male and causes him injury ... police say too bad, get back to life. He hits her and doesn't even cause injury ... police haul the guys ass to jail; She won't pay child support ... oh well. He won't pay child support ... lose all licenses and off to jail; She won't let him see the kids as required by the Court Order ... oh well. He won't let her see the kids as required by the Court Order ... he is off to jail; the list goes on and on ... but once the marriage contract is signed these days the guy is screwed for L-I-F-E (and this doesn't even get into the money side of a relationship or marriage).

There ARE some good women out there ... but good luck finding them! (by my estimation they make up less than 10% of the universe ... and since they ARE good women they are NOT available since they almost always already have a solid partner).

Being older I am no longer amazed but am now just amused as I listen to women I know PROUDLY talk about THEIR affair(s) (usually multiple) and how they "took their ex to the cleaners" ... and then in the next paragraph say that they just can't understand why they "can't find a man who wants to commit anymore".

My rose colored glasses are gone ... now I just find women amusing.
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Further proof of Women needing to stop their Misandry against men...

Thread: The war on men
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This thread was about the hate filled threads posted regularly on glp. It was how this hatred and anger was seen in overt displays of violence by men against women in society.
Women are not posting many threads saying that men are evil. Women are not getting together in gangs and raping men, and ripping out their intestines, etc.
There is no 'war on men' happening here at glp. There is a 'war on women' happening here through these numerous women-bashing threads.

This thread was not about general frustrating issues between the sexes.

And this thread about misandry just details what has been happening to women, people of colour, people of different religions etc, forever. Men are just now starting to get a taste of what it is like to be 'other'. And of course they don't like it. But women have been experiencing it forever.

The way out of this mess is through being vulnerable to reveal feelings in a non threatening way, trust and active listening. All people need to work on themselves first and foremost. Only then can an honest and open dialogue, without name calling and without bullying, happen.
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Don't orget to stop the lying to police to get what you want ... civility is lacking due to what cause? You call it war on women - I call it a BACLASH on women. Men who fall victim are double-victimized when a woman chooses to be uncivil and take the high road instead. Apparently that is asking too much, and so resort to laws designed to make it easy to destroy. The choice rests with the one who lies and attacks, thus using the shield of the law as a sword to inflict damage upon men.

Men are not into destroying a womans life. Men would rather be civil and walk away. You make it seem all men are violent - which shows your misandryous attitude that men need to change.

Women need to stop the men bashing and fase up to what they are doing with abusing the laws. Now where there is true evil, that has merit. But in 90+% of cases, women are the attacker in divorce hearings and end a mans life. So the kids suffer and you place yourself over them by doing so.

Women need to stop the 'If I don't like what you are saying or doing I will lie to cops to get you out of my life while ending your life/career/work/savings'.

Until you have a long talk with the ones who deserve this backlash - the feminists - the war on men will continue, or the USA falls apart, whichever comes first.
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Women are not hated for nothing. We need to see in the source of all problems here. You cannot just stop it by saying it. We have to get to the roots and understand why the hatred? There are reasons.
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Yes I am sure everyone feels justified in their hatred of everyone and everything.
The fact is though, that not everyone acts on that hatred and anger.
Men tend to explode and that is damaging for the man but especially the woman.
Hatred and anger are an internal emotional state first and foremost. nipping it in the bud is best.
But acting on it and calling all women whores (which happens a lot here) is very damaging.
Or for the men who have no self control and who assault their women, it is life threatening.
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you know what? i see what you see and i can think the same way-but i also know that you get some of those guys posting that one on one and theyre nothing like youd think.
Our societies broken.Men are under immense pressure to appear manly , not weak, not showing other men a woman can get to them.Sometimes their defense to keep themselves from being hurt is in there too.sometimes its what they hear as kids.

Im female and i know that if you get most of them one on one they really do not think like that, sad as it is.

Im not condoning it-but a lot is deeper than you first think just reading words.
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I think a lot of the "women hating" men are those who have been hurt by getting into a relationship with a "toxic woman" and aren't really able to trust any woman at this time. The same happens with some women who get involved with a "toxic man". These "Toxic" people are poison to get involved with.
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Women are not hated for nothing. We need to see in the source of all problems here. You cannot just stop it by saying it. We have to get to the roots and understand why the hatred? There are reasons.
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Yes I am sure everyone feels justified in their hatred of everyone and everything.
The fact is though, that not everyone acts on that hatred and anger.
Men tend to explode and that is damaging for the man but especially the woman.
Hatred and anger are an internal emotional state first and foremost. nipping it in the bud is best.
But acting on it and calling all women whores (which happens a lot here) is very damaging.
Or for the men who have no self control and who assault their women, it is life threatening.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26372742


you know what? i see what you see and i can think the same way-but i also know that you get some of those guys posting that one on one and theyre nothing like youd think.
Our societies broken.Men are under immense pressure to appear manly , not weak, not showing other men a woman can get to them.Sometimes their defense to keep themselves from being hurt is in there too.sometimes its what they hear as kids.

Im female and i know that if you get most of them one on one they really do not think like that, sad as it is.

Im not condoning it-but a lot is deeper than you first think just reading words.
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I think a lot of the "women hating" men are those who have been hurt by getting into a relationship with a "toxic woman" and aren't really able to trust any woman at this time. The same happens with some women who get involved with a "toxic man". These "Toxic" people are poison to get involved with.
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EXACTLY! A bad person is a bad person. Statistics show women violence has increased dramatically in the last 20 years and it is getting worse. Double-standards destroy and that is what our system has provided for, while intending to provide a useful tool.

Like any tool, say a hammer, it can be used to build - or destroy. It is the individual who chooses what to do with it. What you describe as 'toxic' is so common when two are just not meant to be together. Thats where the problems start, and as posted earlier in this thread by a bankruptcy attorney, whoever files for divorce first wins it all. Divorce attorny's even tell their clients to get an injunction to maintain their posessions in the home, though it also allows in effect, the entire home to be put on wheels and carted away. All up to the person with the injunction. So add in a toxic attitude of destruction and there goes your whole lifes work.

The tools for destruction are so easy to obtain, and many who have never heard of or experienced someone who was a victim of a attacker has no effing clue. Most often those types further the ostracizing, and both genders are guilty of that.

Women need to stop this 'always-a-victim' attitude and have some class and 'be better than that' toxic label. They got that attitude from feminists and it is absolutely destroying the USA and families and causing many fatherless homes, andthe accompnying childhood problems. All thats needed is to have the balls to lie on a free DVI. Doesn't matter if it is not true. That is the backlash women deserve - they file 90+% of them. In the govt stats it even says men are less likely to file due to the negative image it projects. So there you have it.
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It's a beautiful thing when a man ages enough to no longer be ruled by his dick. Nothing is more refreshing than seeing what most women really are and realizing that it's just not worth it.

The best part is when they realize that they no longer have the power over you that they once had, and that they better pony up with something else in the relationship or hit the bricks.

Women today have earned every bit of the hate. The day that good women start telling bad women that they are wrong for doing what they do, is the day the healing can begin. Till then, you all will be lumped into the same pit by most men as selfish, manipulative, gold diggers.
 Quoting: JesseDart


I will repost most of that I posted on the other thread (with one typo correction):


Many divorced guys who were of the nice variety finally had the rose colored glasses YANKED off them when they were going through their respective divorces ... and once the "TRUTH" is finally known it can never be forgotten.

The current statistics are 70% of all married women HAVE ALREADY HAD AN AFFAIR ... so if one excludes the newly weds, the much older generation and the uglies the odds say that MOST average to above average women have ALREADY slept around on their husbands (probably 90% to 95%). It is just the way the female brain is wired. She wants her man to be faithful, but SHE is not faithful.

Another interesting statistic, one from the NIH from a study in the late 90's is that if a woman has had 5 sex partners prior to her husband the odds her marriage lasting more than 10 years is only 30%. (the majority of women today in their early 20's?). By 15 sex partners ... it has dropped precipitously from those already low levels.

The younger generation of males (those under 35) are wising up FAST that marriage is a one way street, GREAT for the woman but an almost guaranteed losing proposition for the male, particularly if you are a male who is on the ball, going to be or already are successful, and are a nice person. When the now almost inevitable divorce comes (divorce rates are climbing for the younger set even as they delay marriage further and further out), the male is going to be on the recieving end of a focking the likes of which is little understood until you have been through it.

OH ... and the "double standard" when it comes to everything about relationships is still alive and well: She hits the male and causes him injury ... police say too bad, get back to life. He hits her and doesn't even cause injury ... police haul the guys ass to jail; She won't pay child support ... oh well. He won't pay child support ... lose all licenses and off to jail; She won't let him see the kids as required by the Court Order ... oh well. He won't let her see the kids as required by the Court Order ... he is off to jail; the list goes on and on ... but once the marriage contract is signed these days the guy is screwed for L-I-F-E (and this doesn't even get into the money side of a relationship or marriage).

There ARE some good women out there ... but good luck finding them! (by my estimation they make up less than 10% of the universe ... and since they ARE good women they are NOT available since they almost always already have a solid partner).

Being older I am no longer amazed but am now just amused as I listen to women I know PROUDLY talk about THEIR affair(s) (usually multiple) and how they "took their ex to the cleaners" ... and then in the next paragraph say that they just can't understand why they "can't find a man who wants to commit anymore".

My rose colored glasses are gone ... now I just find women amusing.
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Women want too much from men these days. stfu and get in the kitchen.
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Yes I am sure everyone feels justified in their hatred of everyone and everything.
The fact is though, that not everyone acts on that hatred and anger.
Men tend to explode and that is damaging for the man but especially the woman.
Hatred and anger are an internal emotional state first and foremost. nipping it in the bud is best.
But acting on it and calling all women whores (which happens a lot here) is very damaging.
Or for the men who have no self control and who assault their women, it is life threatening.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26372742


you know what? i see what you see and i can think the same way-but i also know that you get some of those guys posting that one on one and theyre nothing like youd think.
Our societies broken.Men are under immense pressure to appear manly , not weak, not showing other men a woman can get to them.Sometimes their defense to keep themselves from being hurt is in there too.sometimes its what they hear as kids.

Im female and i know that if you get most of them one on one they really do not think like that, sad as it is.

Im not condoning it-but a lot is deeper than you first think just reading words.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12826256


I think a lot of the "women hating" men are those who have been hurt by getting into a relationship with a "toxic woman" and aren't really able to trust any woman at this time. The same happens with some women who get involved with a "toxic man". These "Toxic" people are poison to get involved with.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29430674


EXACTLY! A bad person is a bad person. Statistics show women violence has increased dramatically in the last 20 years and it is getting worse. Double-standards destroy and that is what our system has provided for, while intending to provide a useful tool.

Like any tool, say a hammer, it can be used to build - or destroy. It is the individual who chooses what to do with it. What you describe as 'toxic' is so common when two are just not meant to be together. Thats where the problems start, and as posted earlier in this thread by a bankruptcy attorney, whoever files for divorce first wins it all. Divorce attorny's even tell their clients to get an injunction to maintain their posessions in the home, though it also allows in effect, the entire home to be put on wheels and carted away. All up to the person with the injunction. So add in a toxic attitude of destruction and there goes your whole lifes work.

The tools for destruction are so easy to obtain, and many who have never heard of or experienced someone who was a victim of a attacker has no effing clue. Most often those types further the ostracizing, and both genders are guilty of that.

Women need to stop this 'always-a-victim' attitude and have some class and 'be better than that' toxic label. They got that attitude from feminists and it is absolutely destroying the USA and families and causing many fatherless homes, andthe accompnying childhood problems. All thats needed is to have the balls to lie on a free DVI. Doesn't matter if it is not true. That is the backlash women deserve - they file 90+% of them. In the govt stats it even says men are less likely to file due to the negative image it projects. So there you have it.
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Bump for all the women bashing threads on the front page today.
STOP posting hate!
If you have a legitimate complaint you can talk about it without being bullies and name calling or using hate filled language.

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