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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24238594 United States 02/19/2013 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7817112 That's the truth. Men are learning to never marry American women. So you're going gay? No...see, he believes that American women are the only women that have issues. Women elsewhere are perfect and live to worship men. You just load them with SubmissiveBitch v.2.0 in their mainframe and boom...bestest woman evar. This is the typical excuse of the jealous American woman. No, we don't want a submissive woman or bitch. The women outside of America are far nicer and kinder to us than American women. Unfortunately for you, you will never understand this. These non-American women are family oriented and are the type of women you could actually trust and share your finances too. These non-American women are the type of women that know the concept of equal sharing and know the world has changed a lot and that they too have to work at it in the relationship. These non-American women know that if they fuck up your life, they fuck up their own life. Really, American women have priced themselves out of the market. Yep - another brainwashed feminist who believes all men are evil cheaters when it really is the woman is a bad seed - not able to accept her own consequences. Wanna bet she is a liberal? and voted for nObama? |
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Grace11 User ID: 7452244 United States 02/19/2013 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ban commitments and there will be no more women hatred around teh world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17865681 umm, no one is holding a gun to your head forcing you to commit or get married! if monogamy doesn't feel natural to you then don't do it, have sex with as many women you like. plenty of women out there nowadays that need sex just as much as men. men here complain about bitchy women, women who use them, who refuse sex, horrible marriages - no one held a gun to your head to date or stay married to a particular woman! tell em to get lost! I'd rather have a lover who has the self-realization and honesty to tell me monogamy isn't natural for him than a guy who forces himself to be monogamous so he will have a consistent hole to f*** and a woman to cook and clean for him. Grace11 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1324238 United States 02/19/2013 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7817112 That's the truth. Men are learning to never marry American women. So you're going gay? No...see, he believes that American women are the only women that have issues. Women elsewhere are perfect and live to worship men. You just load them with SubmissiveBitch v.2.0 in their mainframe and boom...bestest woman evar. This is the typical excuse of the jealous American woman. No, we don't want a submissive woman or bitch. The women outside of America are far nicer and kinder to us than American women. Unfortunately for you, you will never understand this. These non-American women are family oriented and are the type of women you could actually trust and share your finances too. These non-American women are the type of women that know the concept of equal sharing and know the world has changed a lot and that they too have to work at it in the relationship. These non-American women know that if they fuck up your life, they fuck up their own life. Really, American women have priced themselves out of the market. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10858311 United States 02/20/2013 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please visit PUA forums and understand why men hate women. There's a lot of reasons and a lot will be revealed to you from there. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24957083 One of the chief reasons why men go to PUA to learn is because they were nice guys who were hurt or wronged because of a woman. The sad fact is, women don't want nice guys, they love the abuse, they love jerks, no matter how much they don't admit it and they continue to flock to the abuse. The great thing about PUA forums is how many women actually go to that place, they either start learning and understanding or they go there to outright refuse that PUA even exists (femanazis). Nice guys usually go there and unfortunately get even more angrier at women, but that phase passes when they realize the harsh truth. YUP women say they want flowers, say they want a nice guy, say they want to be treated with respect, etc but when a guy does all those things, they don't WANT him sexually anymore, because he's now a chick I'm from Miami one of the most superficial places in America. This is pretty spot on. That's why I know a lot of women down there that get their fixes from different people. A man to screw, a man to chew the fat with, a man to do the things they like to do, and then whatever needs to be filled in just gets pulled from all three. I'm not a stereotypical Black guy, even though on paper I am. I have a criminal record because I internalized abuse for so long that I flipped out one day and had to "pay" for it ever since. No sympathy for what drove me there, no holding people accountable for child abuse because I'm an adult and somehow Freudian trauma based freak outs are somehow the fault of the PERSON and not the society and environment that they were raised in. Not looking for consoling or blaming anybody. I'm just saying that it's not just OUR faults. This is BY DESIGN. It's just a way to keep us dependent on a system that could give two shits about any of us. I've been that guy. I've been the shoulder, I've been the dick, and I've been the cash cow (although they didn't need much some of them). I'm tired. I just want to be a person. Seems like the only way that I can at this point is by myself. I'm cool with that until I find a person who is cool with that as well. We have to be people FIRST. so sorry for all this. I know you're not looking for pity, but it made me so sad and very angry on your behalf. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34799916 India 02/20/2013 12:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, yes. That's what i thought. "Why it's mens fault, that men hate women". Stay classic you brainwashed femnazi-disciples. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34750386 It's not womens fault that they are being hated, in consequence of their inferior intellectual capabilities and therefore inability to realize how they are manipulated. But they surely are the reason. The "womens right movement" was founded...now guess...by the Rothschilds. And, as they stated, not to liberate women, but to tax them. So it started. And women were fooled into it with huge succes. They loved to smoke cigarettes, they loved to go to work, and loved to not have to get babies anymore. Fools. In their following unnatural strive for equality, women became more and more like men, out of balance with their true nature. The media does the rest, by manipulating them into becoming materialistic whores who laugh at love and values. Forcing women into leading positions, positions where they don't belong in the %-numbers requested, because they aren't as efficient and numerous as men with same or higher competence. There is no equallity in parents-right, all it takes for you to go to jail is some bitch accusing you of rape without any evidence yet. And so on, and so on. They want the rights, but refuse (or are inable to fullfil) the duties and trouble. So. How about females start taking responsibility for this mess, they actively co-created and pushed. How about that. That would be something different for once. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26372742 Canada 02/20/2013 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: 3 Sisters Raped & Killed, found in Well [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Thread: women are uglier than men!! Thread: I'm thinking of buying a real doll. American women are too fucked in their heads. Thread: Why WOMEN are SO SELFISH and ungrateful? Thread: women are uglier than men!! Thread: Canada: Worthless pigs rape Native women Thread: Report says millions of women and children trafficked worldwide |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26372742 Canada 02/20/2013 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: WARNING TO TRUSTING WOMEN: Men Have Become Psychotic - Updated w/Statistics - Page 5 Only 2 threads against men using ‘men’ as the search topic that come remotely close. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26372742 Canada 02/20/2013 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: Men are the weaker sex, psychologically Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26372742 Thread: WARNING TO TRUSTING WOMEN: Men Have Become Psychotic - Updated w/Statistics - Page 5 Only 2 threads against men using ‘men’ as the search topic that come remotely close. The men are psychotic thread was started by a man as well. |
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JesseDart User ID: 1596989 United States 02/20/2013 01:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a beautiful thing when a man ages enough to no longer be ruled by his dick. Nothing is more refreshing than seeing what most women really are and realizing that it's just not worth it. The best part is when they realize that they no longer have the power over you that they once had, and that they better pony up with something else in the relationship or hit the bricks. Women today have earned every bit of the hate. The day that good women start telling bad women that they are wrong for doing what they do, is the day the healing can begin. Till then, you all will be lumped into the same pit by most men as selfish, manipulative, gold diggers. |
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JesseDart User ID: 1596989 United States 02/20/2013 02:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The best part is when they realize that they no longer have the power over you that they once had, and that they better pony up with something else in the relationship or hit the bricks. Quoting: JesseDart I think that's why women become bitter and miserable as they get older. That's when the divorce is filed or the cheating begins, they just can't handle losing the one thing they could manipulate with, their sexuality. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21363812 Canada 02/20/2013 02:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've read (on numerous occasions) comments from AC's saying they refuse to pay for a membership here because of the blatant and profuse misogynist posts on the wall every day - why pay for misogyny when you can get it free at GLP? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21363812 A valiant effort OP :) and OP, may I say, it looks like you've been called every four and five letter word in the book throughout this thread (actually, all women have been), yet your responses have been cool, collected and thoughtful. Shaking your hand for that! :) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26372742 Canada 02/20/2013 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've read (on numerous occasions) comments from AC's saying they refuse to pay for a membership here because of the blatant and profuse misogynist posts on the wall every day - why pay for misogyny when you can get it free at GLP? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21363812 A valiant effort OP :) and OP, may I say, it looks like you've been called every four and five letter word in the book throughout this thread (actually, all women have been), yet your responses have been cool, collected and thoughtful. Shaking your hand for that! :) What I have learned from this thread is that the "ism's" can be boiled down to a simple concept; bullying. We have all heard that bullies are the way they are because they are insecure in themselves. If I am certain of who I am , if I love who I am, I have no need to denigrate another. What I think is also happening is that men are now starting to experience bullying on a societal level...that perhaps they didn't experience before. They are now experiencing what it is like to be the 'other' to not be the 'dominant voice'. But, of course, women, non-whites, people from different cultures, disabled people etc, have always experienced this as a daily reality. To my perspective, the solution is to engage in real dialogue. To listen and to try to understand. Bullying will not go away, until it is transformed from insecurity to confidence and love. Here is a beautiful poem with awesome accompanying animation that speaks to this feeling of being bullied: |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26372742 Canada 02/20/2013 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've read (on numerous occasions) comments from AC's saying they refuse to pay for a membership here because of the blatant and profuse misogynist posts on the wall every day - why pay for misogyny when you can get it free at GLP? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21363812 A valiant effort OP :) and OP, may I say, it looks like you've been called every four and five letter word in the book throughout this thread (actually, all women have been), yet your responses have been cool, collected and thoughtful. Shaking your hand for that! :) What I have learned from this thread is that the "ism's" can be boiled down to a simple concept; bullying. We have all heard that bullies are the way they are because they are insecure in themselves. If I am certain of who I am , if I love who I am, I have no need to denigrate another. What I think is also happening is that men are now starting to experience bullying on a societal level...that perhaps they didn't experience before. They are now experiencing what it is like to be the 'other' to not be the 'dominant voice'. But, of course, women, non-whites, people from different cultures, disabled people etc, have always experienced this as a daily reality. To my perspective, the solution is to engage in real dialogue. To listen and to try to understand. Bullying will not go away, until it is transformed from insecurity to confidence and love. Here is a beautiful poem with awesome accompanying animation that speaks to this feeling of being bullied: |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26372742 Canada 02/20/2013 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The link is not showing up as a youtube video but here it is: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
daisy User ID: 34495736 United States 02/20/2013 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: 3 Sisters Raped & Killed, found in Well [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Thread: women are uglier than men!! Thread: I'm thinking of buying a real doll. American women are too fucked in their heads. Thread: Why WOMEN are SO SELFISH and ungrateful? Thread: women are uglier than men!! Thread: Canada: Worthless pigs rape Native women Thread: Report says millions of women and children trafficked worldwide these threads are upsetting to say the least. I believe porn also has to do with the increased hatred of women, as men become more addicted to porn, their subsequent hatred of women is manifesting itself on many levels and in threads like this: Thread: A cheating ex wants me back (Page 3) In this thread, many of the men posting are rallying for the OP to take the ex GF back and f*ck her in the a$$. This type of hatred is becoming the norm with men. They feel if a woman burns them or pisses them off they have the right to not only sodomize them and use them for sex but they feel entitled to do so. As our society and cultural values sinks into the abyss it is becoming harder and harder to know who you can trust anymore. I mean lets say I have a disagreement with a male friend, does that mean subconsciously he wants to seek revenge in some sadistic, hurtful way? IDK, but if this is the mindset of men these days then I am becoming less and less trustworthy of them as well. I value the men in my life and respect them and I am thankful I don't have to deal with what most of the people bitch about on this forum, but it is becoming increasing more evident that men are very dangerous now more than ever to women wrt to how they view them when they get 'hurt'. FFS we all get hurt in life, but I don't see women running around hurting men in deviant sexual ways like men do. I find these threads to be written by sociopaths and psycho in the making or perhaps already. Sad state of affairs these days for people in break ups and such. You can even trust someone now if they want to get back together after a break up. Everyone's heart is filled with getting revenge. |
daisy User ID: 34495736 United States 02/20/2013 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the animals had it right Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25021844 they screw and leave or at least the smart ones do I couldn't agree more. In looking at society today and the lack of values, It makes no sense to be in any sort of relationship. If I was single in this day and age, I would most likely stay that way, I hear too many of my single girl friends complain of how they get pumped and dumped by men that are psychos and lie to them to get what they want. The good gene pool seemed to disappear. |
daisy User ID: 34495736 United States 02/20/2013 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The best part is when they realize that they no longer have the power over you that they once had, and that they better pony up with something else in the relationship or hit the bricks. Quoting: JesseDart I think that's why women become bitter and miserable as they get older. yes, bit just as many men become bitter and miserable with age, just look at the threads and comment here. It goes both ways. People have forgotten how to respect each other and be kind. There is no excuse for all the hate. |
daisy User ID: 34495736 United States 02/20/2013 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've read (on numerous occasions) comments from AC's saying they refuse to pay for a membership here because of the blatant and profuse misogynist posts on the wall every day - why pay for misogyny when you can get it free at GLP? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21363812 A valiant effort OP :) and OP, may I say, it looks like you've been called every four and five letter word in the book throughout this thread (actually, all women have been), yet your responses have been cool, collected and thoughtful. Shaking your hand for that! :) What I have learned from this thread is that the "ism's" can be boiled down to a simple concept; bullying. We have all heard that bullies are the way they are because they are insecure in themselves. If I am certain of who I am , if I love who I am, I have no need to denigrate another. What I think is also happening is that men are now starting to experience bullying on a societal level...that perhaps they didn't experience before. They are now experiencing what it is like to be the 'other' to not be the 'dominant voice'. But, of course, women, non-whites, people from different cultures, disabled people etc, have always experienced this as a daily reality. To my perspective, the solution is to engage in real dialogue. To listen and to try to understand. Bullying will not go away, until it is transformed from insecurity to confidence and love. Here is a beautiful poem with awesome accompanying animation that speaks to this feeling of being bullied: OP, great post and thread. bullies will always be hateful, hurtful and calculating in their attempts to bring someone down. |
Mean GIRL User ID: 33241638 United States 02/20/2013 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You feminists want equality? Ok, let me circumcise YOU, then we will be a little more equal. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33955290 Oh, and at work when the girls ask me to lift something heavy. I respond with the chant 'Equal work,equal pay!'. What should be the pay for giving birth? Rearing achild? Nothing is harder and yet there is NO pay for this. So someone should pay women to give birth or raising kids??? I get it now. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Black Welfare Mother with 15 Kids says "Somebody Needs to Pay for all my Children!" Isn't this the whole point of feminism? Having children is a personal thing if you don't have enough to raise children or smart/decent enough to land a man to help raise your kids you shouldn't be having kids. TRADITIONALLY MEN(natural tribal men) DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR WOMEN'S CHILDREN IF HE DON'T WANT TO or not ready he could just let the women/children fend for themselves and get eaten by predators like deer herds. Wise women would chose men that stick with them to raise children.Then men created society/religion.SOCIETY/RELIGION SHAME MEN INTO RAISING CHILDREN WHETHER IT'S HIS OR NOT. THE FEMINIST MOVEMENT FORCE MEN TO PAY WOMEN. Men need go back to his natural state and let the brainwashed women and children fend for themselves against predators(elites,corporations,education, etc). There's 7 billion people on the planet now men should let the weak minded die so stop saving them. |
acegotflows User ID: 28872932 United States 02/20/2013 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please visit PUA forums and understand why men hate women. There's a lot of reasons and a lot will be revealed to you from there. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24957083 One of the chief reasons why men go to PUA to learn is because they were nice guys who were hurt or wronged because of a woman. The sad fact is, women don't want nice guys, they love the abuse, they love jerks, no matter how much they don't admit it and they continue to flock to the abuse. The great thing about PUA forums is how many women actually go to that place, they either start learning and understanding or they go there to outright refuse that PUA even exists (femanazis). Nice guys usually go there and unfortunately get even more angrier at women, but that phase passes when they realize the harsh truth. YUP women say they want flowers, say they want a nice guy, say they want to be treated with respect, etc but when a guy does all those things, they don't WANT him sexually anymore, because he's now a chick I'm from Miami one of the most superficial places in America. This is pretty spot on. That's why I know a lot of women down there that get their fixes from different people. A man to screw, a man to chew the fat with, a man to do the things they like to do, and then whatever needs to be filled in just gets pulled from all three. I'm not a stereotypical Black guy, even though on paper I am. I have a criminal record because I internalized abuse for so long that I flipped out one day and had to "pay" for it ever since. No sympathy for what drove me there, no holding people accountable for child abuse because I'm an adult and somehow Freudian trauma based freak outs are somehow the fault of the PERSON and not the society and environment that they were raised in. Not looking for consoling or blaming anybody. I'm just saying that it's not just OUR faults. This is BY DESIGN. It's just a way to keep us dependent on a system that could give two shits about any of us. I've been that guy. I've been the shoulder, I've been the dick, and I've been the cash cow (although they didn't need much some of them). I'm tired. I just want to be a person. Seems like the only way that I can at this point is by myself. I'm cool with that until I find a person who is cool with that as well. We have to be people FIRST. so sorry for all this. I know you're not looking for pity, but it made me so sad and very angry on your behalf. I'm not angry about it anymore. Just tired. So tired. Tired of the ignorance, tired of the intolerance, tired of the labels. I've been an outsider my whole life. I just learned to accept it. I'm good. Thank you for reading and sharing your thoughts. I appreciate those that take the time to listen to others. It shows that you're a person and not a better than. PEACE "a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10858311 United States 02/20/2013 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34755954 YUP women say they want flowers, say they want a nice guy, say they want to be treated with respect, etc but when a guy does all those things, they don't WANT him sexually anymore, because he's now a chick I'm from Miami one of the most superficial places in America. This is pretty spot on. That's why I know a lot of women down there that get their fixes from different people. A man to screw, a man to chew the fat with, a man to do the things they like to do, and then whatever needs to be filled in just gets pulled from all three. I'm not a stereotypical Black guy, even though on paper I am. I have a criminal record because I internalized abuse for so long that I flipped out one day and had to "pay" for it ever since. No sympathy for what drove me there, no holding people accountable for child abuse because I'm an adult and somehow Freudian trauma based freak outs are somehow the fault of the PERSON and not the society and environment that they were raised in. Not looking for consoling or blaming anybody. I'm just saying that it's not just OUR faults. This is BY DESIGN. It's just a way to keep us dependent on a system that could give two shits about any of us. I've been that guy. I've been the shoulder, I've been the dick, and I've been the cash cow (although they didn't need much some of them). I'm tired. I just want to be a person. Seems like the only way that I can at this point is by myself. I'm cool with that until I find a person who is cool with that as well. We have to be people FIRST. so sorry for all this. I know you're not looking for pity, but it made me so sad and very angry on your behalf. I'm not angry about it anymore. Just tired. So tired. Tired of the ignorance, tired of the intolerance, tired of the labels. I've been an outsider my whole life. I just learned to accept it. I'm good. Thank you for reading and sharing your thoughts. I appreciate those that take the time to listen to others. It shows that you're a person and not a better than. PEACE Well it still makes me cry. And I'm grateful you saw and wrote back. And to think this - Thread: Christian Bible EXPOSED!!!! (Page 15) might have been our last exchange. And I would have been just another in a long list of contributors to your tiredness and outsider-ness. I hope [and pray] that you can someday live the life that you ,IMO, were intended to live and that all your wonderful qualities will not go to waste and be appreciated. |
acegotflows User ID: 28872932 United States 02/20/2013 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: acegotflows I'm from Miami one of the most superficial places in America. This is pretty spot on. That's why I know a lot of women down there that get their fixes from different people. A man to screw, a man to chew the fat with, a man to do the things they like to do, and then whatever needs to be filled in just gets pulled from all three. I'm not a stereotypical Black guy, even though on paper I am. I have a criminal record because I internalized abuse for so long that I flipped out one day and had to "pay" for it ever since. No sympathy for what drove me there, no holding people accountable for child abuse because I'm an adult and somehow Freudian trauma based freak outs are somehow the fault of the PERSON and not the society and environment that they were raised in. Not looking for consoling or blaming anybody. I'm just saying that it's not just OUR faults. This is BY DESIGN. It's just a way to keep us dependent on a system that could give two shits about any of us. I've been that guy. I've been the shoulder, I've been the dick, and I've been the cash cow (although they didn't need much some of them). I'm tired. I just want to be a person. Seems like the only way that I can at this point is by myself. I'm cool with that until I find a person who is cool with that as well. We have to be people FIRST. so sorry for all this. I know you're not looking for pity, but it made me so sad and very angry on your behalf. I'm not angry about it anymore. Just tired. So tired. Tired of the ignorance, tired of the intolerance, tired of the labels. I've been an outsider my whole life. I just learned to accept it. I'm good. Thank you for reading and sharing your thoughts. I appreciate those that take the time to listen to others. It shows that you're a person and not a better than. PEACE Well it still makes me cry. And I'm grateful you saw and wrote back. And to think this - Thread: Christian Bible EXPOSED!!!! (Page 15) might have been our last exchange. And I would have been just another in a long list of contributors to your tiredness and outsider-ness. I hope [and pray] that you can someday live the life that you ,IMO, were intended to live and that all your wonderful qualities will not go to waste and be appreciated. I deal with energy and not people. I can't deal with people because people don't even know how to deal with themselves. I come as a person, so there fore it is never PERSONAL to me. It can't be. I just state the facts, tell my honest opinion and leave it as is. I took this pic months ago at one of my shows when I was about 50-60 lbs heavier Peace Last Edited by acegotflows on 02/20/2013 05:13 PM "a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth" |