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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36488183 United States 03/26/2013 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? Matters not . . . Air Force is super cautious toward combat losses . . . even the slightest danger of detection would have been avoided . . . you don't change standard practice and incur increased risk without gaining a Quoting: George B strategic or tactical advantage ? . . Sometimes, contrails just cannot be avoided even for military aircraft. I really don't think that is what we are seeing in this photo . . . :Saudi Pic 1991: Big deal. I see contrails over an area that didn't have much to fight back with. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5141990 United States 03/26/2013 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] snipped; Med Hypotheses. 2004;62(5):746-54. Chronic barium intoxication disrupts sulphated proteoglycan synthesis: a hypothesis for the origins of multiple sclerosis. Purdey M. Source High level contamination by natural and industrial sources of the alkali earth metal, barium (Ba) has been identified in the ecosystems/workplaces that are associated with high incidence clustering of multiple sclerosis (MS) and other neurodegenerative diseases such as the transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSEs) and amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS). Analyses of ecosystems supporting the most renowned MS clusters in Saskatchewan, Sardinia, Massachusetts, Colorado, Guam, NE Scotland demonstrated consistently elevated levels of Ba in soils (mean: 1428 ppm) and vegetation (mean: 74 ppm) in relation to mean levels of 345 and 19 ppm recorded in MS-free regions adjoining. The high levels of Ba stemmed from local quarrying for Ba ores and/or use of Ba in paper/foundry/welding/textile/oil and gas well related industries, as well as from the use of Ba as an atmospheric aerosol spray for enhancing/refracting the signalling of radio/radar waves along military jet flight paths, missile test ranges, etc. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5141990 United States 03/26/2013 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? One more vid. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5141990 Pay attention to the 17:00 min mark and her remarks on the relationship between the chemicals used and human fertility...agenda 21...anyone... and love this point she makes on the thrive site; We don’t need everybody to agree on why we are being sprayed. We do need for people to agree that it is a violation of our rights to clean air. Hmmmm. . . Now a general, wide spread program to reduce fertility would make some sense . . . it would not kill anyone alive and would reduce population stress . . . However, using water or food would be more efficient and less costly . . . Conchems are landing in the water and changing our soil and the crops are affected so that means water and food. And the beat goes on, and the beat goes on. This is a misconception that is also played out here daily. How many chemicals need to fall from the sky to alter the water we drink, the air we breath, the plants and animals we eat, our bodies natural immunities to common illnesses and/or autoimmune disorders... And when you are bombarded from many angles...just what amount does it take? yes. "They" drop it and spread it around baby...and the beat goes on. |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 19998253 United States 03/26/2013 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? All the many reasons to lay chemtrails...why deny unless it really is for evil. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5141990 The greater good or the least loss. Actions taken in secret are most difficult to explain later . . . No matter the original motivation . . . What actions have been taken in secret? It is a secret . . . Dr Teller is dead and he won't tell . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 19998253 United States 03/26/2013 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? Matters not . . . Air Force is super cautious toward combat losses . . . even the slightest danger of detection would have been avoided . . . you don't change standard practice and incur increased risk without gaining a Quoting: George B strategic or tactical advantage ? . . Sometimes, contrails just cannot be avoided even for military aircraft. I really don't think that is what we are seeing in this photo . . . Big deal. I see contrails over an area that didn't have much to fight back with. Risk avoidance does not change in war zones whether there is air supremacy or not. . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30170064 United States 03/26/2013 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? Matters not . . . Air Force is super cautious toward combat losses . . . even the slightest danger of detection would have been avoided . . . you don't change standard practice and incur increased risk without gaining a Quoting: George B strategic or tactical advantage ? . . Sometimes, contrails just cannot be avoided even for military aircraft. I really don't think that is what we are seeing in this photo . . . :Saudi Pic 1991: Yet, you have no reason to believe its anything but a contrail. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30170064 United States 03/26/2013 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5141990 snipped; Med Hypotheses. 2004;62(5):746-54. Chronic barium intoxication disrupts sulphated proteoglycan synthesis: a hypothesis for the origins of multiple sclerosis. Purdey M. Source High level contamination by natural and industrial sources of the alkali earth metal, barium (Ba) has been identified in the ecosystems/workplaces that are associated with high incidence clustering of multiple sclerosis (MS) and other neurodegenerative diseases such as the transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSEs) and amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS). Analyses of ecosystems supporting the most renowned MS clusters in Saskatchewan, Sardinia, Massachusetts, Colorado, Guam, NE Scotland demonstrated consistently elevated levels of Ba in soils (mean: 1428 ppm) and vegetation (mean: 74 ppm) in relation to mean levels of 345 and 19 ppm recorded in MS-free regions adjoining. The high levels of Ba stemmed from local quarrying for Ba ores and/or use of Ba in paper/foundry/welding/textile/oil and gas well related industries, as well as from the use of Ba as an atmospheric aerosol spray for enhancing/refracting the signalling of radio/radar waves along military jet flight paths, missile test ranges, etc. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5141990 snipped; Med Hypotheses. 2004;62(5):746-54. Chronic barium intoxication disrupts sulphated proteoglycan synthesis: a hypothesis for the origins of multiple sclerosis. Purdey M. Source High level contamination by natural and industrial sources of the alkali earth metal, barium (Ba) has been identified in the ecosystems/workplaces that are associated with high incidence clustering of multiple sclerosis (MS) and other neurodegenerative diseases such as the transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSEs) and amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS). Analyses of ecosystems supporting the most renowned MS clusters in Saskatchewan, Sardinia, Massachusetts, Colorado, Guam, NE Scotland demonstrated consistently elevated levels of Ba in soils (mean: 1428 ppm) and vegetation (mean: 74 ppm) in relation to mean levels of 345 and 19 ppm recorded in MS-free regions adjoining. The high levels of Ba stemmed from local quarrying for Ba ores and/or use of Ba in paper/foundry/welding/textile/oil and gas well related industries, as well as from the use of Ba as an atmospheric aerosol spray for enhancing/refracting the signalling of radio/radar waves along military jet flight paths, missile test ranges, etc. "Natural and industrial sources" What industries use barium? Do you know? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30170064 United States 03/26/2013 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5141990 snipped; Med Hypotheses. 2004;62(5):746-54. Chronic barium intoxication disrupts sulphated proteoglycan synthesis: a hypothesis for the origins of multiple sclerosis. Purdey M. Source High level contamination by natural and industrial sources of the alkali earth metal, barium (Ba) has been identified in the ecosystems/workplaces that are associated with high incidence clustering of multiple sclerosis (MS) and other neurodegenerative diseases such as the transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSEs) and amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS). Analyses of ecosystems supporting the most renowned MS clusters in Saskatchewan, Sardinia, Massachusetts, Colorado, Guam, NE Scotland demonstrated consistently elevated levels of Ba in soils (mean: 1428 ppm) and vegetation (mean: 74 ppm) in relation to mean levels of 345 and 19 ppm recorded in MS-free regions adjoining. The high levels of Ba stemmed from local quarrying for Ba ores and/or use of Ba in paper/foundry/welding/textile/oil and gas well related industries, as well as from the use of Ba as an atmospheric aerosol spray for enhancing/refracting the signalling of radio/radar waves along military jet flight paths, missile test ranges, etc. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5141990 snipped; Med Hypotheses. 2004;62(5):746-54. Chronic barium intoxication disrupts sulphated proteoglycan synthesis: a hypothesis for the origins of multiple sclerosis. Purdey M. Source High level contamination by natural and industrial sources of the alkali earth metal, barium (Ba) has been identified in the ecosystems/workplaces that are associated with high incidence clustering of multiple sclerosis (MS) and other neurodegenerative diseases such as the transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSEs) and amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS). Analyses of ecosystems supporting the most renowned MS clusters in Saskatchewan, Sardinia, Massachusetts, Colorado, Guam, NE Scotland demonstrated consistently elevated levels of Ba in soils (mean: 1428 ppm) and vegetation (mean: 74 ppm) in relation to mean levels of 345 and 19 ppm recorded in MS-free regions adjoining. The high levels of Ba stemmed from local quarrying for Ba ores and/or use of Ba in paper/foundry/welding/textile/oil and gas well related industries, as well as from the use of Ba as an atmospheric aerosol spray for enhancing/refracting the signalling of radio/radar waves along military jet flight paths, missile test ranges, etc. "Natural and industrial sources" What industries use barium? Do you know? Oops, apparently you do |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 19998253 United States 03/26/2013 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? How can one Troll their own Thread? Because I don't agree with most chemtrail conspiracy advocates or debunkers I am a Troll??? Trolling is trying to provoke people into an emotional response. Nothing in there about can't be your own thread. This Thread is about a Poll. . . it is asking why people (who already believe) believe chemtrails exist and what sustains their belief. . . I didn't even vote in the Poll. . . I am not trying to elicit fear, anger, or emotion . . . I am trying to understand why people think the way they do. . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 19998253 United States 03/26/2013 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? Matters not . . . Air Force is super cautious toward combat losses . . . even the slightest danger of detection would have been avoided . . . you don't change standard practice and incur increased risk without gaining a Quoting: George B strategic or tactical advantage ? . . Sometimes, contrails just cannot be avoided even for military aircraft. I really don't think that is what we are seeing in this photo . . . Yet, you have no reason to believe its anything but a contrail. I suspect there may be more to this photo than just contrails . . . Yes . . . I do know AWACS crews were never overly concerned about being protected by friendly air cover. . . the implication was they had sufficient organic countermeasures or defensive capabilities not advertised. . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5141990 United States 03/26/2013 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36488183 Sometimes, contrails just cannot be avoided even for military aircraft. I really don't think that is what we are seeing in this photo . . . :Saudi Pic 1991: Yet, you have no reason to believe its anything but a contrail. I suspect there may be more to this photo than just contrails . . . Yes . . . I do know AWACS crews were never overly concerned about being protected by friendly air cover. . . the implication was they had sufficient organic countermeasures or defensive capabilities not advertised. . . . It sure looks suspect to me George B. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30170064 United States 03/26/2013 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36488183 Sometimes, contrails just cannot be avoided even for military aircraft. I really don't think that is what we are seeing in this photo . . . :Saudi Pic 1991: Yet, you have no reason to believe its anything but a contrail. I suspect there may be more to this photo than just contrails . . . Yes . . . I do know AWACS crews were never overly concerned about being protected by friendly air cover. . . the implication was they had sufficient organic countermeasures or defensive capabilities not advertised. . . . You suspect...because you are a suspicious person. I don't suspect because there is no reason to do so. You can't claim to be right, but I can claim that the lack of evidence is on my side. I'll bet that you do a lot of "suspecting"... A sad way to live George. Hey, where is Hammer? Still hiding in his cave waiting for the impact? He does a lot of suspecting too... Also sad... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30170064 United States 03/26/2013 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? How can one Troll their own Thread? Because I don't agree with most chemtrail conspiracy advocates or debunkers I am a Troll??? Trolling is trying to provoke people into an emotional response. Nothing in there about can't be your own thread. This Thread is about a Poll. . . it is asking why people (who already believe) believe chemtrails exist and what sustains their belief. . . I didn't even vote in the Poll. . . I am not trying to elicit fear, anger, or emotion . . . I am trying to understand why people think the way they do. . . . This poll is the best one yet.. It shows the majority look up, see something...and talk each other into believing its not normal to see trails behind aircraft which can and do last for hours. It says it all.... |
Menow User ID: 36928663 United States 03/26/2013 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? ... Quoting: George B How can one Troll their own Thread? Because I don't agree with most chemtrail conspiracy advocates or debunkers I am a Troll??? Trolling is trying to provoke people into an emotional response. Nothing in there about can't be your own thread. This Thread is about a Poll. . . it is asking why people (who already believe) believe chemtrails exist and what sustains their belief. . . I didn't even vote in the Poll. . . I am not trying to elicit fear, anger, or emotion . . . I am trying to understand why people think the way they do. . . . This poll is the best one yet.. It shows the majority look up, see something...and talk each other into believing its not normal to see trails behind aircraft which can and do last for hours. It says it all.... Exactly! And they can't even see what it means about their beliefs. |
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WindyMind User ID: 7244814 United States 03/26/2013 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? It was not that long ago that laws were made against child labor. It was a fight to get that protection for children. If anything is going to change about the pirates in the skies there will need to be another fight. People get things the way they want them and it doesn't matter if others are harmed in the process. I don't know if this will ever be fought. Or not come to the awareness of the right groups of people that can get this into congress. I think it's a fight in awareness stages. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30170064 United States 03/26/2013 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? It was not that long ago that laws were made against child labor. It was a fight to get that protection for children. If anything is going to change about the pirates in the skies there will need to be another fight. People get things the way they want them and it doesn't matter if others are harmed in the process. I don't know if this will ever be fought. Or not come to the awareness of the right groups of people that can get this into congress. I think it's a fight in awareness stages. Quoting: WindyMind What needs to change?! There is no evidence that nothing is going on... I hope you never catch your witch.... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5141990 United States 03/26/2013 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? New video from viewer pertaining to the topic here. Seeing it with his own eyes.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5141990 Yawn... yet another chemmie falsely claiming that normal contrails don't persist. This is so rich coming from a ZETA TALKER.... Maybe you should ask your alien overlords for a new brain. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5141990 United States 03/26/2013 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? It was not that long ago that laws were made against child labor. It was a fight to get that protection for children. If anything is going to change about the pirates in the skies there will need to be another fight. People get things the way they want them and it doesn't matter if others are harmed in the process. I don't know if this will ever be fought. Or not come to the awareness of the right groups of people that can get this into congress. I think it's a fight in awareness stages. Quoting: WindyMind [link to www.thrivemovement.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30170064 United States 03/26/2013 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? Chemtrails don't exist..it's a with-hunt...look it up. You've been duped into accusing people of doing something that there is no evidence to support the accusation. All the images/videos/nonsense you accept as proof is just part of the witch hunt... |
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George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 19998253 United States 03/26/2013 05:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? I suspect there may be more to this photo than just contrails . . . Yes . . . I do know AWACS crews were never overly concerned about being protected by friendly air cover. . . the implication was they had sufficient organic countermeasures or defensive capabilities not advertised. . . . You suspect...because you are a suspicious person. I don't suspect because there is no reason to do so. You can't claim to be right, but I can claim that the lack of evidence is on my side. I'll bet that you do a lot of "suspecting"... A sad way to live George. Hey, where is Hammer? Still hiding in his cave waiting for the impact? He does a lot of suspecting too... Also sad... Last time Hammer posted he said he had been banned for two months . . . seems that was over two months ago . . . Yes . . We need people that have no suspicions . . . criminals and politicians love them . . . it makes their lives much easier . . . Last Edited by George B on 03/26/2013 05:21 PM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 19998253 United States 03/26/2013 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36488183 Trolling is trying to provoke people into an emotional response. Nothing in there about can't be your own thread. This Thread is about a Poll. . . it is asking why people (who already believe) believe chemtrails exist and what sustains their belief. . . I didn't even vote in the Poll. . . I am not trying to elicit fear, anger, or emotion . . . I am trying to understand why people think the way they do. . . . This poll is the best one yet.. It shows the majority look up, see something...and talk each other into believing its not normal to see trails behind aircraft which can and do last for hours. It says it all.... Exactly! And they can't even see what it means about their beliefs. I on the other hand see it as rather human, honest and interesting . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 19998253 United States 03/26/2013 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5141990 United States 03/26/2013 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? Chemtrails don't exist..it's a with-hunt...look it up. You've been duped into accusing people of doing something that there is no evidence to support the accusation. All the images/videos/nonsense you accept as proof is just part of the witch hunt... Well hell with that analogy you better include all of glp and every glp'er.... Again; beware the disclaimer. |
George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 19998253 United States 03/26/2013 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? I have self informed myself and the result is a belief in chemtrails and the contrail hoax. Here is a video which is informative especially for Australians. Quoting: WindyMind Good Grief that was funny!!!! Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36419852 United States 03/26/2013 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most? New video from viewer pertaining to the topic here. Seeing it with his own eyes.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5141990 Yawn... yet another chemmie falsely claiming that normal contrails don't persist. This is so rich coming from a ZETA TALKER.... Maybe you should ask your alien overlords for a new brain. LOL........LOL.......LOL..... |