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If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?

 
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No one, repeat no-one will ever come even one tenth to persuading me that Chemtrails are anti-human and the work of our governments

Ever

So don't bother replying if you imagine you or a thousand of you will ever persuade me other than my firm conviction that Chemtrails are being sprayed in our skies continually and they are not designed to be beneficial to humans

We have watched them for years here. Hundreds of us. And when we speak to people from other suburbs, they also are of the very firm conviction our government should be hanged for treason

There has never been a commercial or even private plane with a reason to spray grid-style 'contrails' over populated areas. Air traffic control would put out an alert immediately and the defence forces would be required to rid the skies of any such plane

We watch them heading back to base, spraying until their tanks are empty

We watch them spraying at night

And we know now, beyond shadow of doubt, that they spray like maniacs anytime rain is on the horizon

We saw them spray for months on end to create the phony droughts which resulted in farmers having to walk off their farms, leaving five generations of family-farmers' work for Saudis and Chinese to buy up

The Chemtrail-created phony droughts also enabled governments and local authorities to restrict water use to punitive degree

Chemtrails poison the air, the water and crops

Tens of thousands of sell-out bastards pay their mortgages and holiday homes with the blood-money they earn from the Chemtrail industry

when they die, millions of their victims await them and will extract eternal revenge
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37221599


And you degree in atmospheric physics is from where?

What are they spraying?

How high up it is?

How does it get there?

How much mass are they spraying?

How does the spray spread out into such huge formations?

What is the temperature, pressure, and relative humidity up there?

How do jet engines work?

What is the wind direction and speed at altitude?

What is the commercial air traffic pattern?
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Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?
No one, repeat no-one will ever come even one tenth to persuading me that Chemtrails are anti-human and the work of our governments

Ever

So don't bother replying if you imagine you or a thousand of you will ever persuade me other than my firm conviction that Chemtrails are being sprayed in our skies continually and they are not designed to be beneficial to humans

We have watched them for years here. Hundreds of us. And when we speak to people from other suburbs, they also are of the very firm conviction our government should be hanged for treason

There has never been a commercial or even private plane with a reason to spray grid-style 'contrails' over populated areas. Air traffic control would put out an alert immediately and the defence forces would be required to rid the skies of any such plane

We watch them heading back to base, spraying until their tanks are empty

We watch them spraying at night

And we know now, beyond shadow of doubt, that they spray like maniacs anytime rain is on the horizon

We saw them spray for months on end to create the phony droughts which resulted in farmers having to walk off their farms, leaving five generations of family-farmers' work for Saudis and Chinese to buy up

The Chemtrail-created phony droughts also enabled governments and local authorities to restrict water use to punitive degree

Chemtrails poison the air, the water and crops

Tens of thousands of sell-out bastards pay their mortgages and holiday homes with the blood-money they earn from the Chemtrail industry

when they die, millions of their victims await them and will extract eternal revenge
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37221599


And you degree in atmospheric physics is from where?

What are they spraying?

How high up it is?

How does it get there?

How much mass are they spraying?

How does the spray spread out into such huge formations?

What is the temperature, pressure, and relative humidity up there?

How do jet engines work?

What is the wind direction and speed at altitude?

What is the commercial air traffic pattern?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1645786


Why bother? He/she is relying 100% on his/her own ignorance.

Hold on while that person uses his/her google powers to find the answers....

I love the last line...what a huge surprise these people (chemtards) have awaiting them, when THEY are the ones in trouble for all the false witness against others. If there is such a thing as an "afterlife"...it's going to be hard on the chemtards.

Claiming ignorance will not save them...Many of us have begged them to learn these subjects before they have made these accusations...and they failed to do so.


There is NO EVIDENCE that anyone is spraying anything as part of an intentional, global geoengineering project. NONE!
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Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?
When they first started many years ago I watched them perform perfect grid patterns over Salem, and Portland on over 20 occasions. It was intentional, perfectly laid out, and always directly above cities. When the first reports stated coming out, they went to laying straight lines to avoid notice.
If you do not believe in them, your either lying, or just plain stupid.
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The only dangerous thing being spewed is chemtard bullshit
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Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?
When they first started many years ago I watched them perform perfect grid patterns over Salem, and Portland on over 20 occasions. It was intentional, perfectly laid out, and always directly above cities. When the first reports stated coming out, they went to laying straight lines to avoid notice.
If you do not believe in them, your either lying, or just plain stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37213556


I'm not lying, nor am I stupid.

I'm just all too aware that no one has proven that tithe visible trails in the sky are anything more than contrails.

The grid patterns are EASILY explained with basic knowledge of aviation navigation.
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Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?
When they first started many years ago I watched them perform perfect grid patterns over Salem, and Portland on over 20 occasions. It was intentional, perfectly laid out, and always directly above cities. When the first reports stated coming out, they went to laying straight lines to avoid notice.
If you do not believe in them, your either lying, or just plain stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37213556


So when an airplane flies from New York to LA how does it fly? Straight line or does it zig zag back and forth? Do you know what the upper level winds are when the planes fly overhead? Trying tracking the flights as they fly overhead and look at the direction of the wind.
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Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?
No one, repeat no-one will ever come even one tenth to persuading me that Chemtrails are anti-human and the work of our governments

Ever

So don't bother replying if you imagine you or a thousand of you will ever persuade me other than my firm conviction that Chemtrails are being sprayed in our skies continually and they are not designed to be beneficial to humans

We have watched them for years here. Hundreds of us. And when we speak to people from other suburbs, they also are of the very firm conviction our government should be hanged for treason

There has never been a commercial or even private plane with a reason to spray grid-style 'contrails' over populated areas. Air traffic control would put out an alert immediately and the defence forces would be required to rid the skies of any such plane

We watch them heading back to base, spraying until their tanks are empty

We watch them spraying at night

And we know now, beyond shadow of doubt, that they spray like maniacs anytime rain is on the horizon

We saw them spray for months on end to create the phony droughts which resulted in farmers having to walk off their farms, leaving five generations of family-farmers' work for Saudis and Chinese to buy up

The Chemtrail-created phony droughts also enabled governments and local authorities to restrict water use to punitive degree

Chemtrails poison the air, the water and crops

Tens of thousands of sell-out bastards pay their mortgages and holiday homes with the blood-money they earn from the Chemtrail industry

when they die, millions of their victims await them and will extract eternal revenge
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37221599


And you degree in atmospheric physics is from where?

What are they spraying?

How high up it is?

How does it get there?

How much mass are they spraying?

How does the spray spread out into such huge formations?

What is the temperature, pressure, and relative humidity up there?

How do jet engines work?

What is the wind direction and speed at altitude?

What is the commercial air traffic pattern?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1645786


Why bother? He/she is relying 100% on his/her own ignorance.

Hold on while that person uses his/her google powers to find the answers....

I love the last line...what a huge surprise these people (chemtards) have awaiting them, when THEY are the ones in trouble for all the false witness against others. If there is such a thing as an "afterlife"...it's going to be hard on the chemtards.

Claiming ignorance will not save them...Many of us have begged them to learn these subjects before they have made these accusations...and they failed to do so.


There is NO EVIDENCE that anyone is spraying anything as part of an intentional, global geoengineering project. NONE!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


There is plenty of evidence of chemtrails, you know that.
You are shilling. But you get no fishes...
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Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?
No one, repeat no-one will ever come even one tenth to persuading me that Chemtrails are anti-human and the work of our governments

Ever

So don't bother replying if you imagine you or a thousand of you will ever persuade me other than my firm conviction that Chemtrails are being sprayed in our skies continually and they are not designed to be beneficial to humans

We have watched them for years here. Hundreds of us. And when we speak to people from other suburbs, they also are of the very firm conviction our government should be hanged for treason

There has never been a commercial or even private plane with a reason to spray grid-style 'contrails' over populated areas. Air traffic control would put out an alert immediately and the defence forces would be required to rid the skies of any such plane

We watch them heading back to base, spraying until their tanks are empty

We watch them spraying at night

And we know now, beyond shadow of doubt, that they spray like maniacs anytime rain is on the horizon

We saw them spray for months on end to create the phony droughts which resulted in farmers having to walk off their farms, leaving five generations of family-farmers' work for Saudis and Chinese to buy up

The Chemtrail-created phony droughts also enabled governments and local authorities to restrict water use to punitive degree

Chemtrails poison the air, the water and crops

Tens of thousands of sell-out bastards pay their mortgages and holiday homes with the blood-money they earn from the Chemtrail industry

when they die, millions of their victims await them and will extract eternal revenge
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37221599


And you degree in atmospheric physics is from where?

What are they spraying?

How high up it is?

How does it get there?

How much mass are they spraying?

How does the spray spread out into such huge formations?

What is the temperature, pressure, and relative humidity up there?

How do jet engines work?

What is the wind direction and speed at altitude?

What is the commercial air traffic pattern?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1645786


Why bother? He/she is relying 100% on his/her own ignorance.

Hold on while that person uses his/her google powers to find the answers....

I love the last line...what a huge surprise these people (chemtards) have awaiting them, when THEY are the ones in trouble for all the false witness against others. If there is such a thing as an "afterlife"...it's going to be hard on the chemtards.

Claiming ignorance will not save them...Many of us have begged them to learn these subjects before they have made these accusations...and they failed to do so.


There is NO EVIDENCE that anyone is spraying anything as part of an intentional, global geoengineering project. NONE!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


There is plenty of evidence of chemtrails, you know that.
You are shilling. But you get no fishes...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37247226


If you are referring to the trails we all see in the sky, that is NOT evidence of "chemtrails". Sorry.
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Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?
No one, repeat no-one will ever come even one tenth to persuading me that Chemtrails are anti-human and the work of our governments

Ever

So don't bother replying if you imagine you or a thousand of you will ever persuade me other than my firm conviction that Chemtrails are being sprayed in our skies continually and they are not designed to be beneficial to humans

We have watched them for years here. Hundreds of us. And when we speak to people from other suburbs, they also are of the very firm conviction our government should be hanged for treason

There has never been a commercial or even private plane with a reason to spray grid-style 'contrails' over populated areas. Air traffic control would put out an alert immediately and the defence forces would be required to rid the skies of any such plane

We watch them heading back to base, spraying until their tanks are empty

We watch them spraying at night

And we know now, beyond shadow of doubt, that they spray like maniacs anytime rain is on the horizon

We saw them spray for months on end to create the phony droughts which resulted in farmers having to walk off their farms, leaving five generations of family-farmers' work for Saudis and Chinese to buy up

The Chemtrail-created phony droughts also enabled governments and local authorities to restrict water use to punitive degree

Chemtrails poison the air, the water and crops

Tens of thousands of sell-out bastards pay their mortgages and holiday homes with the blood-money they earn from the Chemtrail industry

when they die, millions of their victims await them and will extract eternal revenge
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37221599


And you degree in atmospheric physics is from where?

What are they spraying?

How high up it is?

How does it get there?

How much mass are they spraying?

How does the spray spread out into such huge formations?

What is the temperature, pressure, and relative humidity up there?

How do jet engines work?

What is the wind direction and speed at altitude?

What is the commercial air traffic pattern?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1645786


Why bother? He/she is relying 100% on his/her own ignorance.

Hold on while that person uses his/her google powers to find the answers....

I love the last line...what a huge surprise these people (chemtards) have awaiting them, when THEY are the ones in trouble for all the false witness against others. If there is such a thing as an "afterlife"...it's going to be hard on the chemtards.

Claiming ignorance will not save them...Many of us have begged them to learn these subjects before they have made these accusations...and they failed to do so.


There is NO EVIDENCE that anyone is spraying anything as part of an intentional, global geoengineering project. NONE!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


There is plenty of evidence of chemtrails, you know that.
You are shilling. But you get no fishes...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37247226


Provide it. All I have seen are lies, misconceptions, and ignorance.
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Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?
I'm watching the sky being blanketed in "chemtrails" over Plano, TX as we speak. I will upload images tonight. There are huge, obvious differences between these and ordinary contrails. They take much longer to dissipate, spread out slowly and gradually, and are intentionally "criss-crossed" throughout the sky. Contrails on the other hand are nothing to worry about by any means.
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I'm watching the sky being blanketed in "chemtrails" over Plano, TX as we speak. I will upload images tonight. There are huge, obvious differences between these and ordinary contrails. They take much longer to dissipate, spread out slowly and gradually, and are intentionally "criss-crossed" throughout the sky. Contrails on the other hand are nothing to worry about by any means.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3645108


Look up the formation of persistent contrails. They have been observed since the 1920s.
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I'm watching the sky being blanketed in "chemtrails" over Plano, TX as we speak. I will upload images tonight. There are huge, obvious differences between these and ordinary contrails. They take much longer to dissipate, spread out slowly and gradually, and are intentionally "criss-crossed" throughout the sky. Contrails on the other hand are nothing to worry about by any means.
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What is an "ordinary contrail"?!

That's the problem with you people...you make too many assumptions.
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I'm watching the sky being blanketed in "chemtrails" over Plano, TX as we speak. I will upload images tonight. There are huge, obvious differences between these and ordinary contrails. They take much longer to dissipate, spread out slowly and gradually, and are intentionally "criss-crossed" throughout the sky. Contrails on the other hand are nothing to worry about by any means.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3645108


What is an "ordinary contrail"?!

That's the problem with you people...you make too many assumptions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


A contrail is a contrail, why are you being so picky on the wording?
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How many years do you have to study something before you take a practical step . . . it has been studied intensely since the late 1990s????:

 Quoting: George B


I am not so quick to jump on the geo-engineering bandwagon as you. As soon as you do something with the intent of making changes you are geo-engineering. We do not know the climatology well enough to embark down the geo-engineering trail. There could be unintended consequences. I don’t mind at all people studying and discussing the issue but we have to be sure of the results. No second chance. And no, I do not think contrails or persistent contrails (what some call chemtrails) are an intentional attempt at geo-engineering. We know fairly well how, why, when, and where contrails form and can persistent. The ones we see fit our understanding of contrail formation.
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Sorry to tell you but we have already embarked. Geoengineering/cloud seeding is done in many states currently. It is the law in some states. Wake up.

Yes snipped from research but a no brainer...really.

2.2. Delivery mechanism

Since commercial airliners routinely fly in the region where cold cirrus clouds exist, it is hoped that the seeding material could either be (1) dissolved or suspended in their jet fuel and later burned with the fuel to create seeding aerosol, or (2) injected into the hot engine exhaust, which should vaporize the seeding material, allowing it to condense as aerosol in the jet contrail. The objective would not be to seed specific cloud systems but rather to build up a background concentration of aerosol seeding material so that the air masses that cirrus will form in will contain the appropriate amount of seeding material to produce larger ice crystals. Since the residence time of seeding material might be on the order of 1–2 weeks, release rates of seeding material would need to account for this. With the delivery process already existing, this geoengineering approach may be less expensive than other proposed approaches.

[link to iopscience.iop.org]
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Cloud seeding is not geoengineering. Cloud seeding is a local event that affects weather. Geoengineering is a global event that affects climate.
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ummm yes it is. Do some homework...this is stupid to even argue about.
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Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?
I'm watching the sky being blanketed in "chemtrails" over Plano, TX as we speak. I will upload images tonight. There are huge, obvious differences between these and ordinary contrails. They take much longer to dissipate, spread out slowly and gradually, and are intentionally "criss-crossed" throughout the sky. Contrails on the other hand are nothing to worry about by any means.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3645108


What is an "ordinary contrail"?!

That's the problem with you people...you make too many assumptions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


A contrail is a contrail, why are you being so picky on the wording?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13438395


I'm not being "picky".

When someone says "ordinary" contrail, I want to know what they mean by that. Because "ordinary" contrails come in many different varieties....

To claim that a trail which last only a few seconds is an "ordinary" contrail, is bullshit...and just plain ignorant!

Contrails can last for hours and be "ordinary".

They are ordinary PERSISTENT contrails, and have been around for over 80 years...

Also, criss-cross patterns have nothing to do with how "ordinary" a trail is either.

It's just an indication of atmospheric conditions within intersecting air routes.

These things matter.

Chemtards are spreading lies because they have fooled themselves into believing that they understand subjects they are absolutely clueless about.

I represent the truth...
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I am not so quick to jump on the geo-engineering bandwagon as you. As soon as you do something with the intent of making changes you are geo-engineering. We do not know the climatology well enough to embark down the geo-engineering trail. There could be unintended consequences. I don’t mind at all people studying and discussing the issue but we have to be sure of the results. No second chance. And no, I do not think contrails or persistent contrails (what some call chemtrails) are an intentional attempt at geo-engineering. We know fairly well how, why, when, and where contrails form and can persistent. The ones we see fit our understanding of contrail formation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36488183


Sorry to tell you but we have already embarked. Geoengineering/cloud seeding is done in many states currently. It is the law in some states. Wake up.

Yes snipped from research but a no brainer...really.

2.2. Delivery mechanism

Since commercial airliners routinely fly in the region where cold cirrus clouds exist, it is hoped that the seeding material could either be (1) dissolved or suspended in their jet fuel and later burned with the fuel to create seeding aerosol, or (2) injected into the hot engine exhaust, which should vaporize the seeding material, allowing it to condense as aerosol in the jet contrail. The objective would not be to seed specific cloud systems but rather to build up a background concentration of aerosol seeding material so that the air masses that cirrus will form in will contain the appropriate amount of seeding material to produce larger ice crystals. Since the residence time of seeding material might be on the order of 1–2 weeks, release rates of seeding material would need to account for this. With the delivery process already existing, this geoengineering approach may be less expensive than other proposed approaches.

[link to iopscience.iop.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5141990


Cloud seeding is not geoengineering. Cloud seeding is a local event that affects weather. Geoengineering is a global event that affects climate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1645786


ummm yes it is. Do some homework...this is stupid to even argue about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5141990


Ummm...no it isn't.

Stop calling accepting everything you find on chemtard sites "homework"...it isn't.
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[link to www.bbc.com]

So how does that work? The ice crystals of cirrus clouds generally form spontaneously in moist, cold air. But seed particles, if present in the right concentration, could grab all the water vapour to produce a small number of large ice crystals, preventing the formation of lots of unseeded little ones. This would have two consequences. First, the resulting clouds would be more transparent – just as big blobs of water in oil create a more transparent mixture as salad dressing separates out, compared with the milky, opaque emulsion you get when you shake it into lots of tiny droplets. Thinner clouds absorb less radiation from the warm ground, allowing more to escape into space. Second, clouds made from larger ice particles have shorter lives, because the big crystals sink down through the atmosphere under gravity.

Fine balance

One of the advantages of climate engineering via clouds is that the effects are transient: if it doesn’t go to plan, the process can be stopped and all will return to normal in a matter of weeks. Mitchell and Finnegan suggested that one could seed cirrus clouds by releasing particles from aircraft. They also suggested a good material for the seeds, the somewhat exotic (but not excessively costly) compound bismuth tri-iodide, as it is known to promote ice formation on its surface.
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lol. Any geoengineering going on in England yet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5141990


It says proposed
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yeah...funny shit proposed.



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Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?
I'm watching the sky being blanketed in "chemtrails" over Plano, TX as we speak. I will upload images tonight. There are huge, obvious differences between these and ordinary contrails. They take much longer to dissipate, spread out slowly and gradually, and are intentionally "criss-crossed" throughout the sky. Contrails on the other hand are nothing to worry about by any means.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3645108


What is an "ordinary contrail"?!

That's the problem with you people...you make too many assumptions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


A contrail is a contrail, why are you being so picky on the wording?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13438395


I'm not being "picky".

When someone says "ordinary" contrail, I want to know what they mean by that. Because "ordinary" contrails come in many different varieties....

To claim that a trail which last only a few seconds is an "ordinary" contrail, is bullshit...and just plain ignorant!

Contrails can last for hours and be "ordinary".

They are ordinary PERSISTENT contrails, and have been around for over 80 years...

Also, criss-cross patterns have nothing to do with how "ordinary" a trail is either.

It's just an indication of atmospheric conditions within intersecting air routes.

These things matter.

Chemtards are spreading lies because they have fooled themselves into believing that they understand subjects they are absolutely clueless about.

I represent the truth...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


Well, let me upload images I have taken and you can hopefully explain to me exactly what this is. These trails are everywhere in Plano, TX and are continually being sprayed. I have never seen anything like this.

I thought "chemtrails" were bullshit until I saw this in person. I do not know for sure what the ultimate purpose of them is. Anyway, have a look for yourself. I took a shitload of pictures from various vantage points. I took 50 or more and I am in the process of making a video out of them.

I will make a new thread on GLP with my video and I will link it to you when it's finished.

In the meantime if you have an email I can send pics to you if you want to see my collection of pictures now.
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What is an "ordinary contrail"?!

That's the problem with you people...you make too many assumptions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


A contrail is a contrail, why are you being so picky on the wording?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13438395


I'm not being "picky".

When someone says "ordinary" contrail, I want to know what they mean by that. Because "ordinary" contrails come in many different varieties....

To claim that a trail which last only a few seconds is an "ordinary" contrail, is bullshit...and just plain ignorant!

Contrails can last for hours and be "ordinary".

They are ordinary PERSISTENT contrails, and have been around for over 80 years...

Also, criss-cross patterns have nothing to do with how "ordinary" a trail is either.

It's just an indication of atmospheric conditions within intersecting air routes.

These things matter.

Chemtards are spreading lies because they have fooled themselves into believing that they understand subjects they are absolutely clueless about.

I represent the truth...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


Well, let me upload images I have taken and you can hopefully explain to me exactly what this is. These trails are everywhere in Plano, TX and are continually being sprayed. I have never seen anything like this.

I thought "chemtrails" were bullshit until I saw this in person. I do not know for sure what the ultimate purpose of them is. Anyway, have a look for yourself. I took a shitload of pictures from various vantage points. I took 50 or more and I am in the process of making a video out of them.

I will make a new thread on GLP with my video and I will link it to you when it's finished.

In the meantime if you have an email I can send pics to you if you want to see my collection of pictures now.
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Also, they look like the ones in the video above my post.
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What is an "ordinary contrail"?!

That's the problem with you people...you make too many assumptions.
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A contrail is a contrail, why are you being so picky on the wording?
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I'm not being "picky".

When someone says "ordinary" contrail, I want to know what they mean by that. Because "ordinary" contrails come in many different varieties....

To claim that a trail which last only a few seconds is an "ordinary" contrail, is bullshit...and just plain ignorant!

Contrails can last for hours and be "ordinary".

They are ordinary PERSISTENT contrails, and have been around for over 80 years...

Also, criss-cross patterns have nothing to do with how "ordinary" a trail is either.

It's just an indication of atmospheric conditions within intersecting air routes.

These things matter.

Chemtards are spreading lies because they have fooled themselves into believing that they understand subjects they are absolutely clueless about.

I represent the truth...
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Well, let me upload images I have taken and you can hopefully explain to me exactly what this is. These trails are everywhere in Plano, TX and are continually being sprayed. I have never seen anything like this.

I thought "chemtrails" were bullshit until I saw this in person. I do not know for sure what the ultimate purpose of them is. Anyway, have a look for yourself. I took a shitload of pictures from various vantage points. I took 50 or more and I am in the process of making a video out of them.

I will make a new thread on GLP with my video and I will link it to you when it's finished.

In the meantime if you have an email I can send pics to you if you want to see my collection of pictures now.
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Hello Texas! You might want to see what your law allows in your area. Texas allows geoengineering/weather modification thru cloud seeding.

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And you degree in atmospheric physics is from where?

What are they spraying?

How high up it is?

How does it get there?

How much mass are they spraying?

How does the spray spread out into such huge formations?

What is the temperature, pressure, and relative humidity up there?

How do jet engines work?

What is the wind direction and speed at altitude?

What is the commercial air traffic pattern?
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Why bother? He/she is relying 100% on his/her own ignorance.

Hold on while that person uses his/her google powers to find the answers....

I love the last line...what a huge surprise these people (chemtards) have awaiting them, when THEY are the ones in trouble for all the false witness against others. If there is such a thing as an "afterlife"...it's going to be hard on the chemtards.

Claiming ignorance will not save them...Many of us have begged them to learn these subjects before they have made these accusations...and they failed to do so.


There is NO EVIDENCE that anyone is spraying anything as part of an intentional, global geoengineering project. NONE!
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There is plenty of evidence of chemtrails, you know that.
You are shilling. But you get no fishes...
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Provide it. All I have seen are lies, misconceptions, and ignorance.
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No one needs to prove anything to you. You shills are getting desperate.
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dry air is not a conductor it's an insulator...how do you get air to cosistantly conduct electricity so your cell phone works all the time???? just add aluminum...it's pretty simple physics!!!!
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Me and my wheaten terrier both have Morgellons symptons.
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dry air is not a conductor it's an insulator...how do you get air to cosistantly conduct electricity so your cell phone works all the time???? just add aluminum...it's pretty simple physics!!!!
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Aluminum in the air conducts electricity?coffee4
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dry air is not a conductor it's an insulator...how do you get air to cosistantly conduct electricity so your cell phone works all the time???? just add aluminum...it's pretty simple physics!!!!
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Aluminum in the air conducts electricity?coffee4
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project cloverleaf? maybe what they are referring to?
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dry air is not a conductor it's an insulator...how do you get air to cosistantly conduct electricity so your cell phone works all the time???? just add aluminum...it's pretty simple physics!!!!
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Aluminum in the air conducts electricity?coffee4
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project cloverleaf? maybe what they are referring to?
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Alerting electromagnetic wave transmission is one thing but conducting electrical current is quite another . . . coffee4
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I am not so quick to jump on the geo-engineering bandwagon as you. As soon as you do something with the intent of making changes you are geo-engineering. We do not know the climatology well enough to embark down the geo-engineering trail. There could be unintended consequences. I don’t mind at all people studying and discussing the issue but we have to be sure of the results. No second chance. And no, I do not think contrails or persistent contrails (what some call chemtrails) are an intentional attempt at geo-engineering. We know fairly well how, why, when, and where contrails form and can persistent. The ones we see fit our understanding of contrail formation.
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Sorry to tell you but we have already embarked. Geoengineering/cloud seeding is done in many states currently. It is the law in some states. Wake up.

Yes snipped from research but a no brainer...really.

2.2. Delivery mechanism

Since commercial airliners routinely fly in the region where cold cirrus clouds exist, it is hoped that the seeding material could either be (1) dissolved or suspended in their jet fuel and later burned with the fuel to create seeding aerosol, or (2) injected into the hot engine exhaust, which should vaporize the seeding material, allowing it to condense as aerosol in the jet contrail. The objective would not be to seed specific cloud systems but rather to build up a background concentration of aerosol seeding material so that the air masses that cirrus will form in will contain the appropriate amount of seeding material to produce larger ice crystals. Since the residence time of seeding material might be on the order of 1–2 weeks, release rates of seeding material would need to account for this. With the delivery process already existing, this geoengineering approach may be less expensive than other proposed approaches.

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Cloud seeding is not geoengineering. Cloud seeding is a local event that affects weather. Geoengineering is a global event that affects climate.
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ummm yes it is. Do some homework...this is stupid to even argue about.
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The use of cloud seeding is to produce rain, that is a weather event, not a climate event. The quote you provided is something they were dicussing but not implemented:

1. Introduction

Geoengineering ideas have been classified into two categories (Lenton and Vaughan 2009): (1) those increasing reflectance of solar radiation and (2) those increasing outgoing longwave radiation (OLR) by removing greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide. The geoengineering idea proposed in this letter fits in neither of these categories, although it would if category 2 were broadened by removing the restriction of greenhouse gas removal. The idea proposed is to cool surface temperatures by reducing the coverage of high cirrus clouds to increase OLR.
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So how does that work? The ice crystals of cirrus clouds generally form spontaneously in moist, cold air. But seed particles, if present in the right concentration, could grab all the water vapour to produce a small number of large ice crystals, preventing the formation of lots of unseeded little ones. This would have two consequences. First, the resulting clouds would be more transparent – just as big blobs of water in oil create a more transparent mixture as salad dressing separates out, compared with the milky, opaque emulsion you get when you shake it into lots of tiny droplets. Thinner clouds absorb less radiation from the warm ground, allowing more to escape into space. Second, clouds made from larger ice particles have shorter lives, because the big crystals sink down through the atmosphere under gravity.

Fine balance

One of the advantages of climate engineering via clouds is that the effects are transient: if it doesn’t go to plan, the process can be stopped and all will return to normal in a matter of weeks. Mitchell and Finnegan suggested that one could seed cirrus clouds by releasing particles from aircraft. They also suggested a good material for the seeds, the somewhat exotic (but not excessively costly) compound bismuth tri-iodide, as it is known to promote ice formation on its surface.
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lol. Any geoengineering going on in England yet?
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It says proposed
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yeah...funny shit proposed.



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None of those tests have anything to do with contrails and most of those tests were done at ground level, like inside the underground tunnels or from a ship.

"In another chapter, 'Large Area Coverage Trials', the MoD describes how between 1961 and 1968 more than a million people along the south coast of England, from Torquay to the New Forest, were exposed to bacteria including e.coli and bacillus globigii, which mimics anthrax. These releases came from a military ship, the Icewhale, anchored off the Dorset coast, which sprayed the micro-organisms in a five to 10-mile radius."

The air releases were at 500 feet, not 30,000
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Why bother? He/she is relying 100% on his/her own ignorance.

Hold on while that person uses his/her google powers to find the answers....

I love the last line...what a huge surprise these people (chemtards) have awaiting them, when THEY are the ones in trouble for all the false witness against others. If there is such a thing as an "afterlife"...it's going to be hard on the chemtards.

Claiming ignorance will not save them...Many of us have begged them to learn these subjects before they have made these accusations...and they failed to do so.


There is NO EVIDENCE that anyone is spraying anything as part of an intentional, global geoengineering project. NONE!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


There is plenty of evidence of chemtrails, you know that.
You are shilling. But you get no fishes...
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Provide it. All I have seen are lies, misconceptions, and ignorance.
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No one needs to prove anything to you. You shills are getting desperate.
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You can't provide any evidence so you resort to insutls. How cute.
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dry air is not a conductor it's an insulator...how do you get air to cosistantly conduct electricity so your cell phone works all the time???? just add aluminum...it's pretty simple physics!!!!
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Not for you. Radio waves work just fine in a vacuum.

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