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If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?

 
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Do you mean common knowledge to shill? Haha..
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Don't hate me cause I'm smarter than you.
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You are funny... I'll give you that much to be fair.
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Don't get me wrong, as far as the oil industry milking the populace? Sure. A global agenda in the process of being enacted? It's a logical progression for humanity. Good? Maybe not right now.

This though, blaaaah. This is one of the conspiracies that give us all a bad name, discrediting other legitimate concerns. As even a rudimentary understanding of the H2O cycle will explain the majority of trails seen in the sky.
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Tell people what to think. Talk down to people. Assert that you are smarter than everyone else (as a joke of course). What else you got? Do you work for the Koch brothers or someone of their ilk?

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I have an idea. Maybe those orbs are what HAARP looks like when it is working with a chemtrail. Sometimes they lay the trails out in perfect grids for some reason and for some reason some people think HAARP is interacting with the trails to control the weather or for military purposes. Just guessing in a what the fuck are those orb things way.
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Besides orbs, I've seen a ufo buzzing around a chemtrail one time and I've seen disappearing chemtrail planes also.
The whole thing is just odd.
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The question sounds like mass media and is a crime against all thinking people. You dirty mfer. Belief???
BTw, there are no chemtrails in the country where I live, which is not the U.S. I got out of there years ago, partly because the chemtrails made me very ill. They were heavy in Florida.
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Me too, sick, sick. Good for you.

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I have an idea. Maybe those orbs are what HAARP looks like when it is working with a chemtrail. Sometimes they lay the trails out in perfect grids for some reason and for some reason some people think HAARP is interacting with the trails to control the weather or for military purposes. Just guessing in a what the fuck are those orb things way.
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Besides orbs, I've seen a ufo buzzing around a chemtrail one time and I've seen disappearing chemtrail planes also.
The whole thing is just odd.
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I like odd.

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George is busy.....so type whatever you want. lol

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I have an idea. Maybe those orbs are what HAARP looks like when it is working with a chemtrail. Sometimes they lay the trails out in perfect grids for some reason and for some reason some people think HAARP is interacting with the trails to control the weather or for military purposes. Just guessing in a what the fuck are those orb things way.
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Besides orbs, I've seen a ufo buzzing around a chemtrail one time and I've seen disappearing chemtrail planes also.
The whole thing is just odd.
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I like odd.
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Sure is interesting to watch.
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Don't hate me cause I'm smarter than you.
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You are funny... I'll give you that much to be fair.
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Don't get me wrong, as far as the oil industry milking the populace? Sure. A global agenda in the process of being enacted? It's a logical progression for humanity. Good? Maybe not right now.

This though, blaaaah. This is one of the conspiracies that give us all a bad name, discrediting other legitimate concerns. As even a rudimentary understanding of the H2O cycle will explain the majority of trails seen in the sky.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25626729


Tell people what to think. Talk down to people. Assert that you are smarter than everyone else (as a joke of course). What else you got? Do you work for the Koch brothers or someone of their ilk?
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I don't mean to ruffle your feathers. There is no need to read my posts in such a harsh and negative tone. Instead, read them as informative and helpful. As if someone like Carl Sagan was narrating your thoughts.
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You are funny... I'll give you that much to be fair.
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Don't get me wrong, as far as the oil industry milking the populace? Sure. A global agenda in the process of being enacted? It's a logical progression for humanity. Good? Maybe not right now.

This though, blaaaah. This is one of the conspiracies that give us all a bad name, discrediting other legitimate concerns. As even a rudimentary understanding of the H2O cycle will explain the majority of trails seen in the sky.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25626729


Tell people what to think. Talk down to people. Assert that you are smarter than everyone else (as a joke of course). What else you got? Do you work for the Koch brothers or someone of their ilk?
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I don't mean to ruffle your feathers. There is no need to read my posts in such a harsh and negative tone. Instead, read them as informative and helpful. As if someone like Carl Sagan was narrating your thoughts.
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I didn't want to like you! Dammit!

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So what did you say? Something pulling on the planet and causing the planes to make icy trails? I think the planes must be attracted to this pull because there are so many of them designing in the sky. Why don't they trail some art instead of straight lines and grids and the stupid Xs? Don't they have any imagination? Even the ones that fly crooked don't do cool crooked.

Come on Carl nobody can believe that.

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On the other hand the orbs being the tip of a point of a HAARP line, it's a wonder to wonder about.

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On the other hand the orbs being the tip of a point of a HAARP line, it's a wonder to wonder about.
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I don't know about HAaRP, I haven't related the orbs that I have witnessed to that.

These orbs sometimes bounce around.
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the 120 federal patents
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the 120 federal patents
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And what do you know about the patents?

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the 120 federal patents
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And what do you know about the patents?
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If the Patents are public they are by definition not very important. . . It is the CLASSIFIED Patents that are important or even technology used without patent protection . . .public Patents are to protect property rights for future uses and normally only last for I think 10 - 20 years without renewal. . .

If you are smart enough to run a covert spraying operation since the 1990s you are smart enough to hide your technology from prying eyes including public record. . . .grinning


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"Patents Filed After June 17, 1995 
For patent applications filed after June 17, 1995, the patent last 20 years from the date of filing. Since applications typically take one to three years to process, most patents filed after 1995 have an effective duration of 17-19 years.
Design Patents
Design patents, which protect only the ornamental appearance of an article, last for fourteen years from the issue date. 
Patent Extensions
In some cases patents can be extended for up to five years. Examples include where there have been delays in issuing the patent due to interference proceedings, appellate review of the patent’s validity, or failure of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office to issue the patent within three years."

[link to www.intellectualpropertylawfirms.com]


(c) Patent applications and documents relating thereto that are national security classified (see § 1.9(i) of this chapter) and contain authorized national security markings (e.g., “Confidential,” “Secret” or “Top Secret”) are accepted by the Office. National security classified documents filed in the Office must be either hand-carried to Licensing and Review or mailed to the Office in compliance with paragraph (a) of this section.

[link to www.uspto.gov]

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You are funny... I'll give you that much to be fair.
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Don't get me wrong, as far as the oil industry milking the populace? Sure. A global agenda in the process of being enacted? It's a logical progression for humanity. Good? Maybe not right now.

This though, blaaaah. This is one of the conspiracies that give us all a bad name, discrediting other legitimate concerns. As even a rudimentary understanding of the H2O cycle will explain the majority of trails seen in the sky.
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Tell people what to think. Talk down to people. Assert that you are smarter than everyone else (as a joke of course). What else you got? Do you work for the Koch brothers or someone of their ilk?
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I don't mean to ruffle your feathers. There is no need to read my posts in such a harsh and negative tone. Instead, read them as informative and helpful. As if someone like Carl Sagan was narrating your thoughts.
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go forth and multiply, shill
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Is it true that all of Monsantos new seed lines are aluminum resistant?

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Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?
I voted "other" but i have many reasons to believe chemtrails are not contrails.

I see them every single day across NC. My main reason is common fucking sense.
The real reason for chemtrail deployment is beyond the most sinister and evil plots known to man.

nano-tech coupled with gwen cell/emergency towers and HAARP will allow them to use microwave's and frequencies to kill millions of people at the touch of a button.

Sad and sick.
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So what did you say? Something pulling on the planet and causing the planes to make icy trails? I think the planes must be attracted to this pull because there are so many of them designing in the sky. Why don't they trail some art instead of straight lines and grids and the stupid Xs? Don't they have any imagination? Even the ones that fly crooked don't do cool crooked.

Come on Carl nobody can believe that.
 Quoting: WindyMind


You do realize how many planes are in the air at any given moment, right? Here, let me help you visualize it.

[link to www.flightradar24.com]

And heyas, I'll even go one step further. Here is a very quick reading on the physics on contrails. Simple, easy to digest. You should have no problem understanding.

[link to www.faa.gov]

OH, and here is one more! About weather modding.

[link to science.howstuffworks.com]

If anyone has anymore questions, I would be more than willing to answer them. In the meantime, don't worry yourselves to death. We already have it covered 8)


Tootles~
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[link to rense.com]

The United States Air Force web page on the subject, www.af.mil/environment/contrails_chemtrail.shtml, for example, is entitled "The Chemtrail Hoax"

While it may be a purview of individuals to term something a "hoax" at will, a branch of the government is considered more bound by the law in its actions, so that, for them to term something a "hoax" is automatically to have it characterized according to the legal definition of the term. More than that, it indicates that sufficient examination has been carried out to back that characterization. Legally, a "hoax" is far more than just some kind of prank, gag or practical joke; it is a willful and malicious act of mayhem, usually for the aggrandizement of the "perpetrator".

By titling their page that way, the Air Force, then, officially accuses all the honest, straightforward citizens genuinely concerned about at least the affront of their skies being clouded over, and sunlight all but banished from their lives, as malingerers and frauds.

A common tactic of the guilty is to cast the first stone and blame the innocent, at least to try to buy enough time to shore up their defenses against justice.

As with all other "debunkers", the Air Force proceeds to declare that contrails can be caused to remain for very long periods, based on temperature and humidity. Like the other debunkers, they never once assert that the conditions that would allow contrails to persist - if at all - are conditions that are likely to, or even possibly can, occur on the earth, at the present! Unlike the other "debunkers", the Air Force, on their site, don,t include barometric pressure in the "explanation", an eminently glaring omission, utterly calling everything they say into question! Also unlike the other "debunkers", the Air Force does claim that "winds" can affect the persistence of contrails.

Too, and indicative of the fact that they may engage in the eminently questionable act of taking it on themselves to term suspicion of chemtrails a "hoax", but they are still bound by considerations of justice and fairness, the Air Force, on their site, declare that contrails can be caused to last long periods of time because of "aircraft exhaust characteristics".

The nebulous reference is, apparently, meant to downplay the matter, but, technically, "aircraft exhaust characteristics" includes what is being pumped out.

And it is precisely the contention of chemtrail opponents that high flying military jets are pumping unorthodox and irregular materials into the air.

In phraseology evidently intended to gull the unwitting into believing that normal characteristics of jet exhausts can, under the right circumstances, be made to last long periods of time, the Air Force, in actuality, seems to admit that unorthodox materials in their exhaust are what is forming chemtrails.

It's a long article so this is not a copyright violation.

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If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?

1) TV news stories about them . . .
2) I have dreams about them . . 
3) Documentaries about them on the History Channel . . .
4) YouTube Videos about chemtrails
5) Reading about different conspiracies they mentioned them .  . .
6) My friends and/or family talk about them . . .
7) There are websites I visit that talk about them . . .
8) I see persistent trails in the skies . . . 
9) Rap songs or other entertainment including celebrities
10) Scientific papers, patents, symposia (mainstream)
11)  Papers, articles, symposia by other chemtrail believes 
12) Other. . .  please specify in this Thread. . . . 
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Well I was active EARLY in the full scale program. From November of '98 through 2002, I was harassed by spooks, via telephone, e-mail, and at my own home, in a fairly small town. I've had them in my home while I was away, surveilling me, following me, leaving me "gifts", etc...

All for merely participating in internet discussion forums, and meeting up with other "activists", during those years. That was more than enough to make it all REAL, for me.

People who DON'T think the aerosol program is real, are simply IGNORANT idiots.
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what really convinced me was the documented patents for equipment to spray substance from planes.

and then combine that with evidence that aluminum and barium and such are coming down from the sky.

and then there's all the cloud seeding and weather mod companies.

but yea, all you really need are your eyes.

when two 'contrails' crisscross the sky and hour by hour they keep spreading out until a once blue day becomes just a haze... that is not a damn contrail!
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Not to mention that unbelievable dedication of the scum sucking shills.
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If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?

1) TV news stories about them . . .
2) I have dreams about them . . 
3) Documentaries about them on the History Channel . . .
4) YouTube Videos about chemtrails
5) Reading about different conspiracies they mentioned them .  . .
6) My friends and/or family talk about them . . .
7) There are websites I visit that talk about them . . .
8) I see persistent trails in the skies . . . 
9) Rap songs or other entertainment including celebrities
10) Scientific papers, patents, symposia (mainstream)
11)  Papers, articles, symposia by other chemtrail believes 
12) Other. . .  please specify in this Thread. . . . 
 Quoting: George B





Well I was active EARLY in the full scale program. From November of '98 through 2002, I was harassed by spooks, via telephone, e-mail, and at my own home, in a fairly small town. I've had them in my home while I was away, surveilling me, following me, leaving me "gifts", etc...

All for merely participating in internet discussion forums, and meeting up with other "activists", during those years. That was more than enough to make it all REAL, for me.

People who DON'T think the aerosol program is real, are simply IGNORANT idiots.
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Who do you think was watching you???

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C-USA was 3 degrees cooler the days after 9/11.

Not in one area... the entire country's temp dropped by 3 degrees.

There is your global warming right there.
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[link to articles.cnn.com]

During the three-day commercial flight hiatus, when the artificial clouds known as contrails all but disappeared, the variations in high and low temperatures increased by 1.1 degrees Celsius (2 degrees Fahrenheit) each day, said meteorological researchers.





I've seen 3 degrees in other articles.


Either way, this alone and nothing else would more than account for any average temperature rise we are attributing to Global Warming.
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People do get threatened for posting on chemtrail threads. And it's scary.

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People do get threatened for posting on chemtrail threads. And it's scary.
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Windy, have you been threatened? IF so who did it??grumpy2

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Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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I'll let you know if it happens again. :)

A few days ago I remembered the feelings I had (months ago from posting on a chemtrail thread and well....) and I thought that if they didn't go back to the past where they were supposed to live that I would have to quit posting on chemtrail threads..good news...all are disappeared for now.

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Terrible snow in Kansas, Omaha streets are dry and salted. I'd like to get to tomorrow's medical test to but at least today worked out.

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