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Message Subject If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?
Poster Handle George B
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I don't think so . . . huffy

"1. Introduction
1.1 2009 is a key moment in the history of attempts to tackle the urgent threat of climate
change. New science suggests its impacts will be even more severe and felt far sooner than previously
anticipated. The window of opportunity for avoiding dangerous levels of climate change is closing
fast. All sectors have a responsibility to act and to act quickly to reduce their GHG emissions
substantially. Bunker fuels, including those from international aviation, are in no sense an exception
and must be brought into global GHG reduction plans and the UNFCCC Agreement in Copenhagen
in December 2009. GIACC alongside ICAO, its member states and industry and civil society
observers, has a solemn responsibility at this 11th hour to agree to effective proposals to this end.

2. Aviation’s contribution to radiative forcing is 4.9% of the global total and exceeds shipping
by 75%


2.1 ICSA’s presentation to GIACC/3 highlighted aviation’s contribution to climate change.
Since the meeting, new evidence has been published by Lee et al which updates the IPCC’s Fourth
Assessment Report (4AR), providing results based on operational data for 2005 (IPCC 4AR was
based on 2000 data). The report shows that global emissions of CO2 from air transport grew over 45%
between 1992 and 2005, reaching an estimated 733 million tonnes a year by the end of the period.
Between 2000 and 2007 alone, aviation traffic grew at an annual average rate of 5.3%, leading to a
38% increase in passenger traffic. The European Environment Agency (EEA) moreover estimates that
EU15 CO2 emissions from aviation grew 102% between 1990 and 2006. Lee et al calculated that the
CO2 and non-CO2 radiative forcing (RF) attributable to aviation in 2005 was 4.9% of the total RF when best estimates for the effects of aviation induced cirrus cloud formation are included (Lee et. al.
– see Appendix B). Without cloud effects, the figure was
3.5%. Estimates of total aviation RF(excluding cirrus) in 2050, using fuel usage growth factors of 2.7 to 3.9 over baseline year 2000, are 3 to 4 times greater than the 2000 value.


[link to legacy.icao.int]
 Quoting: George B


STILL not "chemtrails".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


Come on . . . you are saying persistent contrails are not what most Chemtrail Conspiracy Advocates are complaining about . . . ?? huffy

That is exactly what I am pointing out . . . these persistent trails in the sky along with the contrail induced cirrus cloud banks are a problem acknowledged by scientists world wide . . . they just don't call them Chemtrails . . . horsepoop
 Quoting: George B



LOL, sometimes you say the persistence has nothing to do with why you're here...and other times they are THE reason...

And of COURSE science doesn't call them "chemtrails".

They have had a REAL name for almost 100 years!

Which is what I'm saying! Even though YOU know the trails are contrails, you jump on the "chemtrail" bandwagon to align yourself with a larger group...in an effort to twist and contort their views to match yours.

But, you OVER-estimate the true problem with the contrails and contrail cirrus so that chemtards will hate aviation as much as you do.

ACTUAL scientists don't seem anywhere near as concerned as you, a pseudo-scientist, do. I wonder why....

Which brings us full circle, as to WHY you want chemtard support behind you.

You are a sneaky one, Jorge...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465

Wrong as always . . . and they are a problem and getting worse each year . . . strides have been made in most areas of mitigation but the most visible, troubling, and controversial radiant forcing agent is ignored except for tons of studies and proposed methods of mitigation but not one practical attempt to do anything . . . grumpy2
 
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