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Gosh, I feel ignorant.

What are WROL folks?
Thanks, taking you and this thread seriously, some good comments already.
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Gosh, I feel ignorant.

What are WROL folks?
Thanks, taking you and this thread seriously, some good comments already.
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Without Rule of Law

We currently live by "Rule of Law" rockon
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Re: Prepper's & WROL folks, "Something to think about"
I have 6 Combat Tours

I have been the Army of Occupation in:

Desert storm
Haiti
Bosnia

"My experience forces me to realize certain scenarios"


Ok, here is the scenario:

A few months into tshtf, and the un-prepped folks have left for the FEMA camps and only "Us'ins" are left.

"Us`ins & Themmonds" ;-)

The folks in the re-education camps will become indoctrinated/fat/well trained and uniformed. Given a since of purpose as a U.S. DHS Officer.




*Folks You need to prepare for the following:

1. short Term shtf scenario

2. Mid-term shtf scenario

3. Long-Term shtf scenario, one that might last 20-30 years.


I am Prepared...........are you?

You have most likely weeks/months to complete all preps. Do not leave out long term sustainment prep's.

Rabbits/Tilopia/seeds/50,000 rounds/etc...etc...
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Thanks for the tips - every little bit helps.

NOw to try and convince hubby we need a pool when we have no kids LOL.
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OP don't be insulting. there's no need for that attitude that simply turns people off prepping. I don't care if you've done 50 tours and are the second coming of christ, don't hurt our movement with your angst. As if serving in the military gives you the right to troll with impunity.

To Americans; prepare. Cheaply. Rice, Vitamins, Guns, Ammo, Water purification equipment, Etc. The time is approaching. Don't let this OP's arrogance turn you off from doing what is neccessary to survive.

God bless.
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Weird - I didn't get any "arrogance" vibe from the OP. I guess we each read his text differently.

No matter who makes suggestions, I go and independently research and validate each suggestion. It's personal responsibility to do such. I don't what anyone says as gospel - I research everything, just in case.
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Where is gun-kid when you need him?

What ever happened to that internet sensation?
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Thanks for the tips - every little bit helps.

NOw to try and convince hubby we need a pool when we have no kids LOL.
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Yep, it's a hard sell, when the "Other" cant see the same vision as you.

You're just gonna have to "Sell It".

Sit him down some night show him a view "What if" videos and maybe he'll come around to your point of thought
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Where is gun-kid when you need him?

What ever happened to that internet sensation?
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Gun-Kid?
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Hmmm, hubby thinks I won't be able to handle a 12 ga shotgun. I told him, you never know what your adrenaline will do in a situation. All we can do is practice until I get used to the kickback that he's concerned about.

I went online and priced the shotguns ... won't be able to afford one any time soon ... but the birdshot is priced fine. Will see if I can find someone local who is willing to sell cheaply or in exchange for something.
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Hmmm, hubby thinks I won't be able to handle a 12 ga shotgun. I told him, you never know what your adrenaline will do in a situation. All we can do is practice until I get used to the kickback that he's concerned about.

I went online and priced the shotguns ... won't be able to afford one any time soon ... but the birdshot is priced fine. Will see if I can find someone local who is willing to sell cheaply or in exchange for something.
 Quoting: OnTheFence


.410 or 20 ga. just as deadly. In my videos you see I also have 5 Marlin Model 60 .22 rifles as well

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I've been trying to prep for the last several months (I'm late to the game, but trying to catch up). However, I'm working on a frayed shoestring budget and against a husband who isn't convinced things are as bad as we here at GLP know it to be.

I've mentioned this in another thread yesterday ...

I lack:

stored water
gun/ammo
herbs, seeds, etc
camping supplies
wool/harsh weather clothing

My foods is mostly canned and some MREs.

I'm trying hard to squirrel away money as it comes in towards the supplies.
 Quoting: OnTheFence


You could buy some heirloom veggies and save the seeds. Hybrids will do in a pinch and as emergency back up, but the seed from each successive planting will differ as the seeds revert.

Search the Internet on seed saving to learn more.
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I've been trying to prep for the last several months (I'm late to the game, but trying to catch up). However, I'm working on a frayed shoestring budget and against a husband who isn't convinced things are as bad as we here at GLP know it to be.

I've mentioned this in another thread yesterday ...

I lack:

stored water
gun/ammo
herbs, seeds, etc
camping supplies
wool/harsh weather clothing

My foods is mostly canned and some MREs.

I'm trying hard to squirrel away money as it comes in towards the supplies.
 Quoting: OnTheFence


You could buy some heirloom veggies and save the seeds. Hybrids will do in a pinch and as emergency back up, but the seed from each successive planting will differ as the seeds revert.

Search the Internet on seed saving to learn more.
 Quoting: Juliebean


...Wow!!!

Excellent idea. Our produce store sells heirlooms from south america and I have been using alot of those.

When I made my green drinks before my garden came it, I notice my compost pile from the juicer material, were sprouting tomatoes so I am actually growing 40 of those tomato plants

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Re: Prepper's & WROL folks, "Something to think about"
I have 6 Combat Tours

I have been the Army of Occupation in:

Desert storm
Haiti
Bosnia

"My experience forces me to realize certain scenarios"


Ok, here is the scenario:

A few months into tshtf, and the un-prepped folks have left for the FEMA camps and only "Us'ins" are left.

"Us`ins & Themmonds" ;-)

The folks in the re-education camps will become indoctrinated/fat/well trained and uniformed. Given a since of purpose as a U.S. DHS Officer.




*Folks You need to prepare for the following:

1. short Term shtf scenario

2. Mid-term shtf scenario

3. Long-Term shtf scenario, one that might last 20-30 years.


I am Prepared...........are you?

You have most likely weeks/months to complete all preps. Do not leave out long term sustainment prep's.

Rabbits/Tilopia/seeds/50,000 rounds/etc...etc...
 Quoting: biscuits and gravy

I see a lot of talk about "seeds" and gardens,thus usually meaning vegetable seeds.
Are any of those seeds, "cotton" seeds? What is the long tern plan for clothing?
Do you know how to make yarn, weave, etc, to make things from raw cotton?
How many are stocking, Gourd seeds, to make containers, dippers and such, in a long term SHTF situation?

How about grains for livestock?

Just wondering as I seldom see these types of "seeds" being discussed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34760637


Add to this ^ seeds / plants to make oil, sugar, coffee, medicine, rope, alcohol and
Cigars
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I've been trying to prep for the last several months (I'm late to the game, but trying to catch up). However, I'm working on a frayed shoestring budget and against a husband who isn't convinced things are as bad as we here at GLP know it to be.

I've mentioned this in another thread yesterday ...

I lack:

stored water
gun/ammo
herbs, seeds, etc
camping supplies
wool/harsh weather clothing

My foods is mostly canned and some MREs.

I'm trying hard to squirrel away money as it comes in towards the supplies.
 Quoting: OnTheFence


You could buy some heirloom veggies and save the seeds. Hybrids will do in a pinch and as emergency back up, but the seed from each successive planting will differ as the seeds revert.

Search the Internet on seed saving to learn more.
 Quoting: Juliebean


...Wow!!!

Excellent idea. Our produce store sells heirlooms from south america and I have been using alot of those.

When I made my green drinks before my garden came it, I notice my compost pile from the juicer material, were sprouting tomatoes so I am actually growing 40 of those tomato plants
 Quoting: biscuits and gravy


Sweet! Ferment ripened tomato seeds in their own juice for 2-3 days, wash them off, lay them out to dry and store them in a cool place.

Good luck!
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Long-term prepping is very important right now!
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How do I know veggies in a store's produce is heirloom?

I have no place to grow (am I'm allergic to dirt - asthma - so I can't have anything indoors - live in a 800 sq ft home).

Hubby says burpee seeks are non-gmo ... true? Good enough to buy and save in vacuum sealed baggies?
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I've been trying to prep for the last several months (I'm late to the game, but trying to catch up). However, I'm working on a frayed shoestring budget and against a husband who isn't convinced things are as bad as we here at GLP know it to be.

I've mentioned this in another thread yesterday ...

I lack:

stored water
gun/ammo
herbs, seeds, etc
camping supplies
wool/harsh weather clothing

My foods is mostly canned and some MREs.

I'm trying hard to squirrel away money as it comes in towards the supplies.
 Quoting: OnTheFence


You could buy some heirloom veggies and save the seeds. Hybrids will do in a pinch and as emergency back up, but the seed from each successive planting will differ as the seeds revert.

Search the Internet on seed saving to learn more.
 Quoting: Juliebean


...Wow!!!

Excellent idea. Our produce store sells heirlooms from south america and I have been using alot of those.

When I made my green drinks before my garden came it, I notice my compost pile from the juicer material, were sprouting tomatoes so I am actually growing 40 of those tomato plants
 Quoting: biscuits and gravy


Sweet! Ferment ripened tomato seeds in their own juice for 2-3 days, wash them off, lay them out to dry and store them in a cool place.

Good luck!
 Quoting: Juliebean


Thanks for the information, I just picked a bunch of heirloom tomatoes this afternoon.
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Long-term prepping is very important right now!
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Yes Sir it is. DHS is prepping for long-term battle .... obviously ...;-)
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How do I know veggies in a store's produce is heirloom?

I have no place to grow (am I'm allergic to dirt - asthma - so I can't have anything indoors - live in a 800 sq ft home).

Hubby says burpee seeks are non-gmo ... true? Good enough to buy and save in vacuum sealed baggies?
 Quoting: OnTheFence


Wal-Mart has cheap "Equate Brand" Benedryil. I bought My Wife & Daughter about 10 year supply, if they take one every other day its a 20 years supply.

All of my Med's are "Equate Brand".

Check out my video's. I've added a bunch since making the video's but they are still acurate

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Well if you have been in Bosnia you sure have some experience to share? Give us some insight, state the obvious (because that is often overlooked even by the hardcore preppers) and some extra on top of that. I'm sure lots round here have military training or at least woken up in terms of prepping of some sort, but only few have actual experience, so I would value you sharing yours with us here. What's a good place to hide? Better to keep moving or hiding? Stay with family or in small groups only or run with the pack? What's a good way to keep a low profile? What people are trustworthy? What are red flags in terms of ones own security? What orders from the government should be obeyed and wich ones rather not?
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Well if you have been in Bosnia you sure have some experience to share? Give us some insight, state the obvious (because that is often overlooked even by the hardcore preppers) and some extra on top of that. I'm sure lots round here have military training or at least woken up in terms of prepping of some sort, but only few have actual experience, so I would value you sharing yours with us here. What's a good place to hide? Better to keep moving or hiding? Stay with family or in small groups only or run with the pack? What's a good way to keep a low profile? What people are trustworthy? What are red flags in terms of ones own security? What orders from the government should be obeyed and wich ones rather not?
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Howdy,

In Bosnia, there where many, many cliques, not only family, religious or prior military, but also alliances formed out of necessity within neighborhoods.

Most Men were killed so Women & Grand Parents became the Guardians. Neighborhoods had grave yards at the end of streets and the kids would get marched to school by and elderly woman, and they would always be quite and look at the graves when passing by, knowing that was one of their relatives.

Most folks "Bugged In Place". Barter was the economy for years. Those on farms grew veggies and raise live stock for consumption and barter.

Brcko and Sarjevo where a Bitch with fucking snipers. You kill one and two more pop up. Stay out of the Bigger cities if possible

*Fresh road construction Marking on the road, "Post Apoctolipic" during shtf time = Buried Land Mine. My Eyes were blood red from percussion blast syndrome for 8 weeks

Everybody was cautious of the "New Guy".

When America SHTF, the rest of the World will follow. Prepare now. ;-)


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Well if you have been in Bosnia you sure have some experience to share? Give us some insight, state the obvious (because that is often overlooked even by the hardcore preppers) and some extra on top of that. I'm sure lots round here have military training or at least woken up in terms of prepping of some sort, but only few have actual experience, so I would value you sharing yours with us here. What's a good place to hide? Better to keep moving or hiding? Stay with family or in small groups only or run with the pack? What's a good way to keep a low profile? What people are trustworthy? What are red flags in terms of ones own security? What orders from the government should be obeyed and wich ones rather not?
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i know your directing your question to the OP and his experiences but i feel i must also add. in Somalia 1993 i saw a country WROL . a very dangerous place. but those community's that stuck together in a village had a family sense about them. I never saw a village fall to the rouge raiders. even without law as we know it. the basic human law takes over and there can be good in that. so don't get all cranked up with fear. get to know people around you. they will depend on you and you might even depend on them.

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Well if you have been in Bosnia you sure have some experience to share? Give us some insight, state the obvious (because that is often overlooked even by the hardcore preppers) and some extra on top of that. I'm sure lots round here have military training or at least woken up in terms of prepping of some sort, but only few have actual experience, so I would value you sharing yours with us here. What's a good place to hide? Better to keep moving or hiding? Stay with family or in small groups only or run with the pack? What's a good way to keep a low profile? What people are trustworthy? What are red flags in terms of ones own security? What orders from the government should be obeyed and wich ones rather not?
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i know your directing your question to the OP and his experiences but i feel i must also add. in Somalia 1993 i saw a country WROL . a very dangerous place. but those community's that stuck together in a village had a family sense about them. I never saw a village fall to the rouge raiders. even without law as we know it. the basic human law takes over and there can be good in that. so don't get all cranked up with fear. get to know people around you. they will depend on you and you might even depend on them.

My two cents
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Thanks for the input. Pretty much, their is safty in numbers, I saw this in Desert storm, Haiti and Bosnia, and as you state in Somalia. People react pretty much the same throughout the World.
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Is something really about to go down? I've had a gut instinct to start prepping for a while now, but I haven't been able to.I wouldn't fare too badly wshtf anyways though without prepping too much. I can build shelter, I can make fire, I can lay traps for food, I know how to aquire water, and I'm pretty good at c and c.
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It's about to commence, most likely if you have not acquired a weapon and ammo by now, you're too late.

You should always have some prep's that's just good scenes.

It's good you have prepping and survival skills that will carry you a long ways .... kudos!
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Unfortunately, I live in Britain. No guns allowed! I would have to rely on hiding away and sticking it out.
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Fuck that.Buy a gun from your local bad guys,get your ammo & burry it.Free men dont ask permission to defend themselves.This does not matter where you live.God gave you a brain,USE IT.
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I have 6 Combat Tours

I have been the Army of Occupation in:

Desert storm
Haiti
Bosnia

"My experience forces me to realize certain scenarios"


Ok, here is the scenario:

A few months into tshtf, and the un-prepped folks have left for the FEMA camps and only "Us'ins" are left.

"Us`ins & Themmonds" ;-)

The folks in the re-education camps will become indoctrinated/fat/well trained and uniformed. Given a since of purpose as a U.S. DHS Officer.




*Folks You need to prepare for the following:

1. short Term shtf scenario

2. Mid-term shtf scenario

3. Long-Term shtf scenario, one that might last 20-30 years.


I am Prepared...........are you?

You have most likely weeks/months to complete all preps. Do not leave out long term sustainment prep's.

Rabbits/Tilopia/seeds/50,000 rounds/etc...etc...
 Quoting: biscuits and gravy


i agree..the thing that i'm concerned about are the militia's. Like in Idaho,I think it was they want to build a compound. These places,to me,are way to dangerous.They'll just bomb them. So everyone needs to be in a coordinated location,but seperated. Dont think they wouldnt just wipe a few thousand out at once
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Well if you have been in Bosnia you sure have some experience to share? Give us some insight, state the obvious (because that is often overlooked even by the hardcore preppers) and some extra on top of that. I'm sure lots round here have military training or at least woken up in terms of prepping of some sort, but only few have actual experience, so I would value you sharing yours with us here. What's a good place to hide? Better to keep moving or hiding? Stay with family or in small groups only or run with the pack? What's a good way to keep a low profile? What people are trustworthy? What are red flags in terms of ones own security? What orders from the government should be obeyed and wich ones rather not?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34770263


i know your directing your question to the OP and his experiences but i feel i must also add. in Somalia 1993 i saw a country WROL . a very dangerous place. but those community's that stuck together in a village had a family sense about them. I never saw a village fall to the rouge raiders. even without law as we know it. the basic human law takes over and there can be good in that. so don't get all cranked up with fear. get to know people around you. they will depend on you and you might even depend on them.

My two cents
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Thanks for the input. Pretty much, their is safty in numbers, I saw this in Desert storm, Haiti and Bosnia, and as you state in Somalia. People react pretty much the same throughout the World.
 Quoting: biscuits and gravy


they do, i do believe that safety in numbers and that basic response of what human beings feel is right and wrong. we would see a man being flogged in down town Mogadishu and ask our interpreters what he did. tried to steal something they would respond. instant justice ! no public defenders to try to get them off the hook. just brutal justice.
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Don't ask me why I've done this, because I don't have babies or toddlers.

I just know someday a mother will need these items.

I have been saving my dish towels and hand towels when they become thin. I have also collected hundreds of Wal-Mart bags and rolls of duct tape. To this collection I have added baby wipes, ointment, lotions, desitin, etc. It's packed in those big metal tins with lids.

One day there won't be any pampers or diapers. What will the mommies do about this? They will do without. Or they will create diapers from old towels, plastic bags, and duct tape.

If you think I'm trolling or off topic, I won't mind if you ban me.

I posted what I thought was important.
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Don't ask me why I've done this, because I don't have babies or toddlers.

I just know someday a mother will need these items.

I have been saving my dish towels and hand towels when they become thin. I have also collected hundreds of Wal-Mart bags and rolls of duct tape. To this collection I have added baby wipes, ointment, lotions, desitin, etc. It's packed in those big metal tins with lids.

One day there won't be any pampers or diapers. What will the mommies do about this? They will do without. Or they will create diapers from old towels, plastic bags, and duct tape.

If you think I'm trolling or off topic, I won't mind if you ban me.

I posted what I thought was important.
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We used the Cotton re-usable Washable diapers for my two kids.

Never had a hitch, Bleach, hot water and detergent.

Kudos!!!!
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