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to share or not to share, that is the question

 
Anonymous Coward
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02/20/2013 01:26 PM
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not by the 70s... tings started to go more "electric" then..
court cases were comin out about the injuries sustained through drug and lets say "radiation" experiements...
most of the old docs are still alive...
bit of a transition.
dont get me wrong... of course things still went on for real..
just they were gettin major expert at that sort of "experiment " by the mid 70s...
its even easier now... dentist can gps your fillings and therefore you are so fucking easy to target.
sounds maaad, but if you would like to discus it sometime...
;-)
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02/20/2013 01:36 PM
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Hmm some of my freinds once held me under the water just for fun once, and they were my freinds lol no interogation there
Maybe some of the stuff is from other realms or some of your dreams mixed in, just a thought

anyway in some schools they punish the whole class if just a few have been naughty, its called colecttive punishment

I duno, but your story sounds like its full of holes also
It sounds scary though, life is torture at times
 Quoting: Balloons


Groan.
See?
"Maybe it was just a dream."
Unfortunately, I wasn't that drugged.
But this is a pretty common reaction to truths...bury, bury, bury.
 Quoting: The Loophole

Ok
Put a lion in a cage for years without food and watch what happens.
Its appetite will of cause grow and grow, and then you point your finger at its hunger?
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02/20/2013 01:40 PM

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Seriously, I prefer to stick to reality - things that can be confirmed or denied.

Like: was there research involving these specific parameters at this specific location during these dates: yes or no? Can it be confirmed by professional research articles?

The answer is unfortunately yes more often than not.

While hazy aliens and people chasing each other in dreams is all well and good, when was the last time that could be confirmed or denied? What is the point of exploring things to verify if they are true if they are beyond the realm of what can be measured?

I like philosophy as much as the next person, but we're talking about referenced research in real buildings here, not dream people.

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lol... omg!
catch me a fucking flutterbye
these places existed 100%
if you think thats more "real" than a 4/5 year old being tormented nightly by demons... then ... well..
its all part of the same snowball... same evolved projects, sub projects , continued research...
special classes in schools... trips out of school to dentists and doctors...ne glect abuse
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02/22/2013 01:16 AM
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Please share more

^_^
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02/22/2013 01:33 AM
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Oh..on the santa thing.
I met someone whose family went and set up christmas lights outside of her window, put on eerie music, and then came in with alien masks.... all so that the poor girl that had already been through enough would end up ranting about aliens.

Discrediting is a bitch and I see so many people falling for it.
 Quoting: The Loophole


Wow. Thank you for posting this. This is very similar to what was done to me except with me they used a devil mask.

Do you know why they did that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32062218


I'm pretty sure it's just to make you look like a fucking lunatic.
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Gaslighting is a form of psychological abuse in which false information is presented with the intent of making a victim doubt his or her own memory, perception and sanity.[1] Instances may range simply from the denial by an abuser that previous abusive incidents ever occurred, up to the staging of bizarre events by the abuser with the intention of disorienting the victim.

The term "gaslighting" comes from the play Gas Light and its film adaptations. The term is now also used in clinical and research literature.[2][3]


[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Gaslighting is a form of psychological abuse in which false information is presented with the intent of making a victim doubt his or her own memory, perception and sanity.[1] Instances may range simply from the denial by an abuser that previous abusive incidents ever occurred, up to the staging of bizarre events by the abuser with the intention of disorienting the victim.

The term "gaslighting" comes from the play Gas Light and its film adaptations. The term is now also used in clinical and research literature.[2][3]


[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33838017


This.

Which is more realistic?
Seeing aliens or having a trick pulled on you.
Time travelling or having a drug slipped into your drink.
Being abused by a demon or a pedo in a demon costume?

I could go on and on. I have seen so many people with perfectly plausible experiences,but they always seem to jump off the deep end at some point on something similar to the above and I just have to walk away because there is no urge to try to reason with someone that thinks they are a time traveler pursued by demons. That would be like trying to convince a christian that there is no god.

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Gaslighting is a form of psychological abuse in which false information is presented with the intent of making a victim doubt his or her own memory, perception and sanity.[1] Instances may range simply from the denial by an abuser that previous abusive incidents ever occurred, up to the staging of bizarre events by the abuser with the intention of disorienting the victim.

The term "gaslighting" comes from the play Gas Light and its film adaptations. The term is now also used in clinical and research literature.[2][3]


[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33838017


This.

Which is more realistic?
Seeing aliens or having a trick pulled on you.
Time travelling or having a drug slipped into your drink.
Being abused by a demon or a pedo in a demon costume?

I could go on and on. I have seen so many people with perfectly plausible experiences,but they always seem to jump off the deep end at some point on something similar to the above and I just have to walk away because there is no urge to try to reason with someone that thinks they are a time traveler pursued by demons. That would be like trying to convince a christian that there is no god.
 Quoting: The Loophole


Thank you both so much for these follow ups. This was done to me so many times and in so many ways that I would sound crazy just talking about what was done to try to drive me crazy, make me look insane, or cause me to expire in near misses with freak accidents.

Keeping quiet about all that and what I know about them has kept me alive and allowed me to live some semblance of a normal life.

I've spent my whole life feeling like that Brittney Murphy character - "I'll never tell..." - what they did to me to shut me up because it would just get me locked up or what I know about them that made them come after me in so many ways. Telling does no good when they know the secret handshakes. Having to call in favors to cover things up only enrages them more.

I worry that as the ones that tried and failed so hard to make me look like a lunatic or accidentally on purpose kill me get older and have less to lose they may come after me in less subtle and more overtly violent ways.

Let's just say there are a few deathbeds I won't be visiting because they would rather spend their last ounce of strength trying to force a dagger through my heart than confessing the truth and making amends.

Some people truly want to go to hell after they die and believe they will rule and reign there.
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Your're not alone, there are a buch of dumbasses like you around.
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Thank you both so much for these follow ups. This was done to me so many times and in so many ways that I would sound crazy just talking about what was done to try to drive me crazy, make me look insane, or cause me to expire in near misses with freak accidents.

Keeping quiet about all that and what I know about them has kept me alive and allowed me to live some semblance of a normal life.

I've spent my whole life feeling like that Brittney Murphy character - "I'll never tell..." - what they did to me to shut me up because it would just get me locked up or what I know about them that made them come after me in so many ways. Telling does no good when they know the secret handshakes. Having to call in favors to cover things up only enrages them more.

I worry that as the ones that tried and failed so hard to make me look like a lunatic or accidentally on purpose kill me get older and have less to lose they may come after me in less subtle and more overtly violent ways.

Let's just say there are a few deathbeds I won't be visiting because they would rather spend their last ounce of strength trying to force a dagger through my heart than confessing the truth and making amends.

Some people truly want to go to hell after they die and believe they will rule and reign there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32062218


It is quite difficult to speak of these kinds of things without one's head spinning around, and you kind of assume if you're the story teller and it's making you dizzy, then god knows how the audience is handling it.

It's so much easier to tell sweet little easy to swallow smoothed over socially acceptable lies instead....until they eat you up inside anyway.

I don't particularly fear speaking the truth, although sometimes the audience is so dense that it's just a waste of breath. I don't think my life is protected by silence, especially since most of the harm I've been through was clandestine stuff. Hiding in the dark isn't safe..it's where you get snatched from.

I also have the little caveat that I have never signed a do not disclose agreement on this while sober and aware of the fact. ;)

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