====----____The Nootropics Thread!____-----====

Anyone tried Rhodiola rosea?

It is my favourite adaptogen/nootropic.

Also Withania somnifera is good.

how long does it take to feel the difference on rhodiola ?

I feel it in hours.

It is a reversible inhibitor of monoamine oxidases, as well as enhancing "endorphin" production.

It is far superior to anti-depressants for the same indications.

how much to take to do that? extract or just powder is fine?

Alpha Brain, according to Joe, is very good. Haven't tried it yet.

Good sleep, exercise and an every-other-day dose of 240mg Ginkgo.

Marijuana is good about once a week in a light dose.

I had a fiend who tried Alpha Brain...I heard it sucked.

Joe Rogan needs advertising!

This is the thread where we discuss Nootropics!

I feel that Nootropics definitely are effective, and will eventually be scheduled in the United States...Because the U.S. Government, via the FDA does not want more intelligent people whose brains function quicker and more effectively by using substances which have no threshold overdose level, and are relatively inexpensive...can't have that now, can we?


I have experimented with multiple -racetam type nootropics, from Piracetam to Oxiracetam to Noopept. Even though Noopept is billed as 100x stronger than the "original" aka Piracetam, I have found that Piracetam gives the best effects!

I always mega-dose Piracetam (min. dose 4g, max dose 12g) and I always take Choline with the Piracetam....usually the equivalent dose.

This is a major point I can find no solid information on- the optimum dose of Choline to Piracetam. Some say to take 1/5 the Choline of Piracetam, others say take 1/2, still other say to take the same dose, and others state 2x the Choline of Piracetam.



If you have no idea what I am talking about, do yourself a favor, and research Nootropics! Nootropics are also known as Smart Drugs. Here are a couple FAQ pages regarding Nootropics to get you started:
[link to www.whatarenootropics.com]
[link to www.erowid.org]

Remember the movie, Limitless? Where there was a little pill that allowed the ingester to have turbocharged brain power? Well, nootropics can be just like that, except not to such a fantasy-level.


Side-note: Amazon.com has recently (within the past month) stopped offering Piracetam bulk powder and any form of Piracetam on their website. I find that interesting...not in a good way. Even more peculiar, other -racetam type Nootropics are still being sold on amazon.com, so I do not know what that means.


Please discuss your experience using Nootropics!

one last note for now: I am especially interested to hear about non-American use and opinions of Nootropics. When I first discovered their existence more than 12 years ago, I recall reading that they had been in popular use in Europe for years, and were just then (year 2000-2001) becoming known in the United States.

go!

Hahaha!

This is the thread where we discuss Nootropics!

I feel that Nootropics definitely are effective, and will eventually be scheduled in the United States...Because the U.S. Government, via the FDA does not want more intelligent people whose brains function quicker and more effectively by using substances which have no threshold overdose level, and are relatively inexpensive...can't have that now, can we?


I have experimented with multiple -racetam type nootropics, from Piracetam to Oxiracetam to Noopept. Even though Noopept is billed as 100x stronger than the "original" aka Piracetam, I have found that Piracetam gives the best effects!

I always mega-dose Piracetam (min. dose 4g, max dose 12g) and I always take Choline with the Piracetam....usually the equivalent dose.

This is a major point I can find no solid information on- the optimum dose of Choline to Piracetam. Some say to take 1/5 the Choline of Piracetam, others say take 1/2, still other say to take the same dose, and others state 2x the Choline of Piracetam.



If you have no idea what I am talking about, do yourself a favor, and research Nootropics! Nootropics are also known as Smart Drugs. Here are a couple FAQ pages regarding Nootropics to get you started:
[link to www.whatarenootropics.com]
[link to www.erowid.org]

Remember the movie, Limitless? Where there was a little pill that allowed the ingester to have turbocharged brain power? Well, nootropics can be just like that, except not to such a fantasy-level.


Side-note: Amazon.com has recently (within the past month) stopped offering Piracetam bulk powder and any form of Piracetam on their website. I find that interesting...not in a good way. Even more peculiar, other -racetam type Nootropics are still being sold on amazon.com, so I do not know what that means.


Please discuss your experience using Nootropics!

one last note for now: I am especially interested to hear about non-American use and opinions of Nootropics. When I first discovered their existence more than 12 years ago, I recall reading that they had been in popular use in Europe for years, and were just then (year 2000-2001) becoming known in the United States.

go!

mix with a little coconut oil and drink it fast. try not to get any on your tongue, lol. it's so gross...

If you ran out of gelcaps...hmmm...I suppose I would recommend "parachuting" the piracetam. Take one square of toilet paper, and separate it into one-ply. Then rip it in half or in 1/4 and add some powder, fold it up, and swallow with a giant gulp of water.

In bold- cite your reference, please. Did you even read through the entire thread?

I have not taken Piracetam+Choline stack faithfully for longer than a 2-3 month period. It is solely due to funds. I could afford it, but I just have not seemed to continue faithfully taking the Nootropic stack.

I first ingested this Nootropic stack roughly 12 years ago. It has been for the past two years or so, that I take Piracetam and Choline daily, usually 2-3 doses each day, for two month spans.


I expect to receive a shipment of 500g (1.1 pounds) of bulk Piracetam powder today via USPS, so I will have to spend a couple hours filling the empty capsules I also ordered.

I have found the following effects from using Piracetam*:

+Colors seem brighter (in a minor way, not in the same way as psychedelic...just brighter and more vivid.)

+Sounds seem more clear and interesting (music of course, but also mundane sounds have a more interesting quality to them)

+In fact, a great way to describe it would be that sensory input is "cleaner." Everything just has a more dynamic quality to it, but not in a dramatic fashion. Perhaps a good way to describe this effect would be the difference between watching a video on youtube at 480p, and then changing it to 720p.

+Social interactions are markedly improved. This is the greatest benefit and this is the reason why I love Piracetam. I find I can voice my thoughts in a clear and rapid manner, using more descriptive words, using more interesting language, and eliminating use of "um"s and "uh"s. By far, the greatest effect of Piracetam for me. Never does it make me feel speedy or out of control or weird, but always makes me feel at ease when socializing and interacting. I have never had social anxiety, but there are manifold anecdotal experiences online of incredible benefits from Nootropic use, especially -racetam family Nootropics, regarding social anxiety.

+Piracetam also potentiates any other substance taken with it. This includes alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, psilocybin, and other drugs and substances. It is thought that Piracetam increases blood flow to the brain, and throughout the brain. This is thought to be the reason for the potentiation effect of Piracetam. Piracetam is to be considered to have the same effect as an MAO Inhibitor, in this regard.


*I always mention using a stack of Piracetam and Choline, because without the Choline, I seem to get a fogginess of the mind, and sometimes a mild-to-moderate dull headache. However, if I take the Choline with the Piracetam, this negative effect does not appear whatsoever.

The only other negative, or drawback, is the short-acting timeframe of the effects. I find I must re-dose approximately 5 hours after ingestion in order to achieve the full effects.