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Remember when there were reports that a second shooter was taken into custody. A SWAT Team was dispatched to his house on Philo Curtis Rd and they found a body. Suddenly the news on that subject was halted.

This was tweeted by a local reporter as well as a CBS reporter.

Well guess who has a friend that lives on Philo Curtis Rd? SCOTT VOLLMER does.

I wonder if Scott Vollmr's friend was the one that got caught on Crestwood maybe and brought back to the PD as was said on the radio at about 11:30 am or so ane I wonder if that was his house that they raided. Who's body might they have found ? Adam's maybe ?

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Remember when there were reports that a second shooter was taken into custody. A SWAT Team was dispatched to his house on Philo Curtis Rd and they found a body. Suddenly the news on that subject was halted.

This was tweeted by a local reporter as well as a CBS reporter.

Well guess who has a friend that lives on Philo Curtis Rd? SCOTT VOLLMER does.

I wonder if Scott Vollmr's friend was the one that got caught on Crestwood maybe and brought back to the PD as was said on the radio at about 11:30 am or so ane I wonder if that was his house that they raided. Who's body might they have found ? Adam's maybe ?

[link to www.newstimes.com]

[link to www.youtube.com]
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it could be interesting but you need to give more details.
which friend?

i read only:
"Lestik rushed to meet her husband. She arrived as a parade of black SWAT trucks and State Police cruisers roared up Philo Curtis Road"
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From the memory hole blog comments:

ALL EVIDENCE POINTS TO COMPASS GROUP BLOOMBERG EMPLOYEE SCOTT VOLLMER ( SON OF KINDERGARTEN TEACHER JANET VOLLMER ) NO EVIDENCE NO EVIDENCE NO EVIDENCE AT ALL POINTS TO ADAM LANZA

Virtually all media reports on Lanza have been baseless with unnamed official sources. Even his picture is a construct.. So let’s take a closer look at factual matters shall we?

We can assess the corroborating circumstances and facts and investigate further to determine if the allegations that Scott Vollmer (Compass Group Bloomberg employee ) was involved have any merit and if this issue should be pursued further. Every person is innocent until proven guilty. Like others before me have stated I agree that I would never bear false witness against anyone for any reason. The tragic events that transpired at Sandy Hook demand an investigation for truth and justice. Based on the circumstances detailed herein I believe a comprehensive and thorough examination of Scott Vollmer is warranted.

To this day we have no motive at all for Adam Lanza or any evidence of anger, violent outbursts, aggression or resentment. I also am unaware of any substantive evidence that he has any experience with firearms at all. Multiple reports from the corporate media have been proven false or baseless. His mother was not a teacher, he did not get in an altercation the day before, he did not try to buy a gun at Dick’s Sporting goods, his mother was not going to have him committed, he was without basis accused of being a Satanist, his picture is a photoshop fabrication. If he had a driver’s license, as reported, why doesn’t the State make that picture available? At this point I don’t think we can believe anything at all that the media reports about Lanza or his mother.

What other motive might there be for such an attack? What transpired thereafter ?

Within weeks of this incident New York State legislators were proposing gun confiscation and a national dialogue commenced questioning whether Americans need to own AR-15s. Despite that AR-15s are statistically nonexistent in gun crimes all of the emphasis was on banning assault weapons primarily the AR-15. Who would have an interest in this type of outcome? Draw your own conclusion.

The first responders reported on the radio that there were multiple weapons including long rifles and shotguns. Multiple people were fleeing the scene onto Crestwood and into the woods, one of whom being an armed off duty SWAT officer as reported by Andrew Gorosko of the Newtown Bee. I would think you may be more interested in why an armed SWAT officer from another town was in the woods and who he was rather than somebody potentially mistaking somebody else for Dawn Hochsprung. So the evidence that there were multiple assailants is compelling. However such an attack would require someone familiar with the school would it not ?

Unlike the Hochsprung “interview”, we know exactly who was involved in the statement attributed to school nurse Sally Cox. USA Reporter Andrea McCarren asserted that she had identified and spoke with Sally Cox the school nurse. In that statement she stated that the shooter walked into her office, they met eyes, she jumped under her desk, and he inexplicably walked away. Upon further inquiry by McCarren she further added that the shooter’s mother was a kind, loving experienced kindergarten teacher just the the kind of person you would want with your five year old. Based on reliance on this statement alone we would believe that it would be reasonable to thoroughly examine any of the sons of the kindergarten teachers at the school. Would any of them have a motive to have committed an act like this and do the facts and circumstances corroborate the allegations? If this was a fabrication then there should be ample exculpatory evidence and if this there was substance to this assertion there would likely be corroborating evidence. Either way this should be thoroughly investigated and dispositioned

The story that Sally Cox told on ABC was very similar except that in this interview she only saw the shooter’s feet. She then said that the secretary, Barbara Halstead, ran into her office and that she held the phone while Halstead dialed 911. The two of them then hid in a closet for four hours until 1:15pm and in doing so evaded at least 4 sweeps of the building by the Police SWAT teams.

Both stories are similar with the exception that the second story fails to identify the shooter and that she stated that she hid away in a closet until 1:15pm. So either an imposter made up the story about the shooter’s mother being an nice, loving experienced kindergarten teacher or Andrea McCarren made that up out of the clear blue sky or possibly Andrea McCarren reported the information accurately.

Which story appears to be more plausible? A simple conversation with Andrea McCarren and Sally Cox should readily clarify this issue and on a matter of this importance has anyone taken the initiative to do so? Is there any reason either of them would not cooperate? From what I have read Andrea McCarren is not responding to questions on this issue. Might Sally Cox have been coerced into changing her statement if the perpetrators of this act were powerful politically connected individuals ? Might Andrea McCarren be reticent to come forth for the same reason? There is a picture in a video of Scott Vollmer with both Presidents Clinton and Obama so might he have high level connections to influence such matters?

Furthermore the 911 call from Sally Cox’s phone could readily corroborate whether or not they positively identified the shooter.

So lacking a conclusive statement from Andrea McCarren or Sally Cox let us examine the other related facts and circumstances:

1. CNN reported that Federal Officials stated that the shooter had a connection to the school-
2. Lt. Vance conspicuously and completely avoided answering the question when asked if the shooter’s mother had any affiliation with the school. Why?
3. The shooter almost certainly was familiar with the school security features.
4. The shooter knew exactly where to park the car to avert being seen from the office.
5. The shooter arrived almost precisely at 9:30 am indicating that he knew what time the doors would be locked.
6. Joanne Didonato, secretary, took a rare sick day on the day of the attack. A member of her family is affiliated with Scott Vollmer
7. Kevin Anzellotti, head janitor, also reportedly had the day off. After somebody mentioned that point on his Face Book page he deleted all entries for that period. He is a friend of Janet Vollmer.
8. Scott Vollmer has affiliations with members of the Manfredonia family, one of whom also works or worked for Compass Group. Chris Manfredonia was detained at the scene and resides two houses away from Adam Lanza.
9. During the school shooting Janet Vollmer reportedly kept her cool and read her students a book. Is this a realistic response under the circumstances?
10. Natalie Hammond was one of only two wounded adults that had survivable injuries with one or more wounds to the extremities. All of the other victims, except one, were killed and received 3 to 11 shots each? Natalie Hammond is also a friend of Janet Vollmer.
11. The second adult wounded victim remains a mystery. There is a video of a woman on a gurney being placed in an ambulance. Some suggest this may be Janet Vollmer. This person should be readily identifiable and yet we still do not know who she is. Is this Janet Vollmer?
12. At 11:38:28 am on December 14 the Police Radio transmission stated that they were transporting someone to the Newtown Police Department.
13. At or about 12:16 pm on December 14 Danbury News Times reporter Libor Jany tweeted that there was police activity on Philo Curtis Rd. possibly related to the shooting. Scott Vollmer has an affiliate that resides on Philo Curtis Rd. Was the person taken to the Newtown PD at 11:38 am an affiliate of Scott Vollmer?
14. News reports began to unfold on this issue in real time but were abruptly halted and scrubbed. This report also indicated that a body was found.
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
15. The Danbury News Times also later reported that SWAT Teams had gone onto Philo Curtis Rd.
[link to www.newstimes.com]
16. At 9:58:25 am on December 14 someone clearly states on the police radio “take the life of Adam” what is the impact and implications of this statement?
17. Was Sally Cox spared by the shooter randomly or because she had been with the school 15 years with Vollmer’s mother and that she had a very good relationship with Janet (she made very laudatory comments about her to Andrea McCarren didn’t she ?) and that she knew Scott Vollmer personally?
18. John Miller of CBS tweeted at 1:13 pm on December 14 that a potential second shooter was in custody. Is it a coincidence that Sally Cox stated in her interview with ABC that she and Barbara Halstead emerged from the closet two minutes later at 1:15pm?
19. Most directly Scott Vollmer’s mother is in fact an experienced kindergarten teacher at Sandy Hook Elementary School
[link to newtownbee.com]

More importantly what does the overall available evidence in totality suggest regarding what transpired on December 14, 2012?

A. Adam Lanza – A frail, shy, computer geek, lone gunman with no history of violence, no affiliation with the school, no evidence of firearms proficiency or usage, no evidence of resentment or anger toward his mother, never leaving his mother’s basement, from a wealthy comfortable background suddenly smashing his hard drives, initiating an attack by first killing his mother then wearing a mask and carrying an AR-15 and two separate handguns, a shotgun in the trunk, with hundreds of rounds in numerous magazines ? without any motive at all ? without any witnesses? without any video? without any 911 calls identifying Lanza? In the end Lanza left only one identified wounded survivor and one unidentified wounded survivor. Are we really supposed to believe that Adam Lanza performed that act with that level of lethality without any evidence at all? After all of the previous false reports about Adam Lanza now we are expected to believe this absurd fallacy?

or is alternative B more likely ?

B. A team of personnel including those trained and familiar with firearms and accompanied by someone very familiar with the school security procedures and features ?

Listen to the radio transmissions between 9:39 and 9:55 am and observe how many “suspects” are apprehended. We have both audio and video evidence of multiple personnel fleeing from police. We have evidence suggesting multiple weapons with excessive quantities of bullets and magazines far exceeding what a lone gunman would attempt to carry especially a frail 115 pound computer geek. Who was confronted on Crestwood? Who ran away into the woods? Who were the others in the woods that evaded arrest? Who were the personnel wearing ski masks and a nun outfit in the maroon van and why were they suspects? One member of a SWAT Team from another town was detained and we have no explanation yet for his presence?

So based on the evidence readily available to the public which conclusion seems more plausible? Adam RAMBO Lanza or Scott Vollmer and associates?

What a travesty of justice that we would allow the slaughter of these innocent little children and adults to be rationalized with such an absurd theory in total contradiction with the available facts and evidence. How depraved and ignorant has our society become where this is acceptable ?
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11. The second adult wounded victim remains a mystery. There is a video of a woman on a gurney being placed in an ambulance. Some suggest this may be Janet Vollmer. This person should be readily identifiable and yet we still do not know who she is. Is this Janet Vollmer?
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I think Janet gave interview the same day with short hair.
i dont think it's her on the gurney. Also, they dont look in hurry... so it's probably only someone who "feel bad"

[link to newyork.cbslocal.com]
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From the memory hole blog comments:

ALL EVIDENCE POINTS TO COMPASS GROUP BLOOMBERG EMPLOYEE SCOTT VOLLMER ( SON OF KINDERGARTEN TEACHER JANET VOLLMER ) NO EVIDENCE NO EVIDENCE NO EVIDENCE AT ALL POINTS TO ADAM LANZA

Virtually all media reports on Lanza have been baseless with unnamed official sources. Even his picture is a construct.. So let’s take a closer look at factual matters shall we?





Excellent observations!

I have also wondered about Scott Vollmer as per the Cox interview interpreted by newscaster. I had idea the reason she was in the school so long was not because she was hiding in the closet all that time but because she was somehow being briefed.

I also felt the killer did not follow the sequence of events once inside the school as the media portrays it. I think Soto's class was the first classroom killer entered and then Rousseau's class was next.

Below is timeline taken from police radio and an interview of the first responders with my theory added.

Officer William Chapman was in the Newtown police station along with Officer McGowan
and others
when the first reports of shots and breaking glass came in early on the day of the massacre.
The school was more than two miles away. They traveled up Route 25, then right onto
Church Hill Road.
“We drove as fast as we’ve ever driven,” Officer McGowan said.


"Caller is indicating she thinks that someone is shooting in the building"

Shooter has shot principal and phycologist.
Shooter making his way to Soto's class which is the classroom after closed
door class.
I don't think Soto had the presence of mind to shut and/or lock the door.
I never heard any reports of him shooting out this door or having any problem
getting into this classroom.
Doesn't help with the hero story. She was scared shitless - I don't blame her.
Shooter shoots in Soto's class.
Six students run out.

Barbara Sidley drives up and sees them on their escape.
Meanwhile, shooter is making his way to Rousseau's class who can't lock the door.
Barbara and woman are now standing outside the front door.
Shooter starts to shoot up Rousseau's class
Barbara and woman run.
The cops are now outside the front door and grab Barbara to safety
who is now nowhere near the front door cause she heard the gunshots and ran.

"The entrance of the Sandy Hook School. The front glass has been broken and they're unsure why"

They (Chapman andMcGowan) made it in under three minutes, arriving in the parking lot
while gunfire could still be heard.
“I got out of the car and grabbed my rifle and it stopped for second,” Officer Chapman said.
“But then we heard more popping. You could tell it was rifle fire. And it was up so close,
it sounded like it was coming from outside. So we were all looking around for someone to
shoot back at.”
As the officers converged on the building, the gunfire stopped again. Officers Chapman
and Scott Smith made their way to the front entrance.

All units the individual I have on the phone is continuing to hear what he believes to be gunfire

All units responding to Sandy Hook School at this time. The shooting appears to have stopped.
The school is in lockdown

"The teachers saw 2 shadows running past the building past the gym which would be rear"

"Yea, we got em they're coming at me down Crestwood"

"This is it"
The officers turned their radios down. They entered the front lobby and saw the first bodies,
those of Dawn Hochsprung, the principal, they would later learn, and Mary Sherlach,
the school psychologist.

Killer may hear the cops and starts making his way back up the hall and
pops back into Soto's class.

"I will need two ambulances at this time".

The shooter is apparently still shooting in the office area 12 Dickerson Drive

Take exit 10... continue on Riverside Road, Dickerson Drive. Make sure you have your vests on.

(someone says they've apprehended someone and have them proned out)

"Last known shots were in the front of the sc"(inaudible)
We have one fatal in room one... (inaudible) received a wound to the foot...

"we've got bodies in here"

"we've got an injured person in room number 9 with numerous gunshot wounds"

more shots fired at this time??? (see 9:49)
Killer kills himself.
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From the memory hole blog comments:

ALL EVIDENCE POINTS TO COMPASS GROUP BLOOMBERG EMPLOYEE SCOTT VOLLMER ( SON OF KINDERGARTEN TEACHER JANET VOLLMER ) NO EVIDENCE NO EVIDENCE NO EVIDENCE AT ALL POINTS TO ADAM LANZA

Virtually all media reports on Lanza have been baseless with unnamed official sources. Even his picture is a construct.. So let’s take a closer look at factual matters shall we?

We can assess the corroborating circumstances and facts and investigate further to determine if the allegations that Scott Vollmer (Compass Group Bloomberg employee ) was involved have any merit and if this issue should be pursued further. Every person is innocent until proven guilty. Like others before me have stated I agree that I would never bear false witness against anyone for any reason. The tragic events that transpired at Sandy Hook demand an investigation for truth and justice. Based on the circumstances detailed herein I believe a comprehensive and thorough examination of Scott Vollmer is warranted.

To this day we have no motive at all for Adam Lanza or any evidence of anger, violent outbursts, aggression or resentment. I also am unaware of any substantive evidence that he has any experience with firearms at all. Multiple reports from the corporate media have been proven false or baseless. His mother was not a teacher, he did not get in an altercation the day before, he did not try to buy a gun at Dick’s Sporting goods, his mother was not going to have him committed, he was without basis accused of being a Satanist, his picture is a photoshop fabrication. If he had a driver’s license, as reported, why doesn’t the State make that picture available? At this point I don’t think we can believe anything at all that the media reports about Lanza or his mother.

What other motive might there be for such an attack? What transpired thereafter ?

Within weeks of this incident New York State legislators were proposing gun confiscation and a national dialogue commenced questioning whether Americans need to own AR-15s. Despite that AR-15s are statistically nonexistent in gun crimes all of the emphasis was on banning assault weapons primarily the AR-15. Who would have an interest in this type of outcome? Draw your own conclusion.

The first responders reported on the radio that there were multiple weapons including long rifles and shotguns. Multiple people were fleeing the scene onto Crestwood and into the woods, one of whom being an armed off duty SWAT officer as reported by Andrew Gorosko of the Newtown Bee. I would think you may be more interested in why an armed SWAT officer from another town was in the woods and who he was rather than somebody potentially mistaking somebody else for Dawn Hochsprung. So the evidence that there were multiple assailants is compelling. However such an attack would require someone familiar with the school would it not ?

Unlike the Hochsprung “interview”, we know exactly who was involved in the statement attributed to school nurse Sally Cox. USA Reporter Andrea McCarren asserted that she had identified and spoke with Sally Cox the school nurse. In that statement she stated that the shooter walked into her office, they met eyes, she jumped under her desk, and he inexplicably walked away. Upon further inquiry by McCarren she further added that the shooter’s mother was a kind, loving experienced kindergarten teacher just the the kind of person you would want with your five year old. Based on reliance on this statement alone we would believe that it would be reasonable to thoroughly examine any of the sons of the kindergarten teachers at the school. Would any of them have a motive to have committed an act like this and do the facts and circumstances corroborate the allegations? If this was a fabrication then there should be ample exculpatory evidence and if this there was substance to this assertion there would likely be corroborating evidence. Either way this should be thoroughly investigated and dispositioned

The story that Sally Cox told on ABC was very similar except that in this interview she only saw the shooter’s feet. She then said that the secretary, Barbara Halstead, ran into her office and that she held the phone while Halstead dialed 911. The two of them then hid in a closet for four hours until 1:15pm and in doing so evaded at least 4 sweeps of the building by the Police SWAT teams.

Both stories are similar with the exception that the second story fails to identify the shooter and that she stated that she hid away in a closet until 1:15pm. So either an imposter made up the story about the shooter’s mother being an nice, loving experienced kindergarten teacher or Andrea McCarren made that up out of the clear blue sky or possibly Andrea McCarren reported the information accurately.

Which story appears to be more plausible? A simple conversation with Andrea McCarren and Sally Cox should readily clarify this issue and on a matter of this importance has anyone taken the initiative to do so? Is there any reason either of them would not cooperate? From what I have read Andrea McCarren is not responding to questions on this issue. Might Sally Cox have been coerced into changing her statement if the perpetrators of this act were powerful politically connected individuals ? Might Andrea McCarren be reticent to come forth for the same reason? There is a picture in a video of Scott Vollmer with both Presidents Clinton and Obama so might he have high level connections to influence such matters?

Furthermore the 911 call from Sally Cox’s phone could readily corroborate whether or not they positively identified the shooter.

So lacking a conclusive statement from Andrea McCarren or Sally Cox let us examine the other related facts and circumstances:

1. CNN reported that Federal Officials stated that the shooter had a connection to the school-
2. Lt. Vance conspicuously and completely avoided answering the question when asked if the shooter’s mother had any affiliation with the school. Why?
3. The shooter almost certainly was familiar with the school security features.
4. The shooter knew exactly where to park the car to avert being seen from the office.
5. The shooter arrived almost precisely at 9:30 am indicating that he knew what time the doors would be locked.
6. Joanne Didonato, secretary, took a rare sick day on the day of the attack. A member of her family is affiliated with Scott Vollmer
7. Kevin Anzellotti, head janitor, also reportedly had the day off. After somebody mentioned that point on his Face Book page he deleted all entries for that period. He is a friend of Janet Vollmer.
8. Scott Vollmer has affiliations with members of the Manfredonia family, one of whom also works or worked for Compass Group. Chris Manfredonia was detained at the scene and resides two houses away from Adam Lanza.
9. During the school shooting Janet Vollmer reportedly kept her cool and read her students a book. Is this a realistic response under the circumstances?
10. Natalie Hammond was one of only two wounded adults that had survivable injuries with one or more wounds to the extremities. All of the other victims, except one, were killed and received 3 to 11 shots each? Natalie Hammond is also a friend of Janet Vollmer.
11. The second adult wounded victim remains a mystery. There is a video of a woman on a gurney being placed in an ambulance. Some suggest this may be Janet Vollmer. This person should be readily identifiable and yet we still do not know who she is. Is this Janet Vollmer?
12. At 11:38:28 am on December 14 the Police Radio transmission stated that they were transporting someone to the Newtown Police Department.
13. At or about 12:16 pm on December 14 Danbury News Times reporter Libor Jany tweeted that there was police activity on Philo Curtis Rd. possibly related to the shooting. Scott Vollmer has an affiliate that resides on Philo Curtis Rd. Was the person taken to the Newtown PD at 11:38 am an affiliate of Scott Vollmer?
14. News reports began to unfold on this issue in real time but were abruptly halted and scrubbed. This report also indicated that a body was found.
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
15. The Danbury News Times also later reported that SWAT Teams had gone onto Philo Curtis Rd.
[link to www.newstimes.com]
16. At 9:58:25 am on December 14 someone clearly states on the police radio “take the life of Adam” what is the impact and implications of this statement?
17. Was Sally Cox spared by the shooter randomly or because she had been with the school 15 years with Vollmer’s mother and that she had a very good relationship with Janet (she made very laudatory comments about her to Andrea McCarren didn’t she ?) and that she knew Scott Vollmer personally?
18. John Miller of CBS tweeted at 1:13 pm on December 14 that a potential second shooter was in custody. Is it a coincidence that Sally Cox stated in her interview with ABC that she and Barbara Halstead emerged from the closet two minutes later at 1:15pm?
19. Most directly Scott Vollmer’s mother is in fact an experienced kindergarten teacher at Sandy Hook Elementary School
[link to newtownbee.com]

More importantly what does the overall available evidence in totality suggest regarding what transpired on December 14, 2012?

A. Adam Lanza – A frail, shy, computer geek, lone gunman with no history of violence, no affiliation with the school, no evidence of firearms proficiency or usage, no evidence of resentment or anger toward his mother, never leaving his mother’s basement, from a wealthy comfortable background suddenly smashing his hard drives, initiating an attack by first killing his mother then wearing a mask and carrying an AR-15 and two separate handguns, a shotgun in the trunk, with hundreds of rounds in numerous magazines ? without any motive at all ? without any witnesses? without any video? without any 911 calls identifying Lanza? In the end Lanza left only one identified wounded survivor and one unidentified wounded survivor. Are we really supposed to believe that Adam Lanza performed that act with that level of lethality without any evidence at all? After all of the previous false reports about Adam Lanza now we are expected to believe this absurd fallacy?

or is alternative B more likely ?

B. A team of personnel including those trained and familiar with firearms and accompanied by someone very familiar with the school security procedures and features ?

Listen to the radio transmissions between 9:39 and 9:55 am and observe how many “suspects” are apprehended. We have both audio and video evidence of multiple personnel fleeing from police. We have evidence suggesting multiple weapons with excessive quantities of bullets and magazines far exceeding what a lone gunman would attempt to carry especially a frail 115 pound computer geek. Who was confronted on Crestwood? Who ran away into the woods? Who were the others in the woods that evaded arrest? Who were the personnel wearing ski masks and a nun outfit in the maroon van and why were they suspects? One member of a SWAT Team from another town was detained and we have no explanation yet for his presence?

So based on the evidence readily available to the public which conclusion seems more plausible? Adam RAMBO Lanza or Scott Vollmer and associates?

What a travesty of justice that we would allow the slaughter of these innocent little children and adults to be rationalized with such an absurd theory in total contradiction with the available facts and evidence. How depraved and ignorant has our society become where this is acceptable ?
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You just presented more questions and facts about this case then all of MSM combined. Awesome.

What amazes me is that grown men whom we vote to represent us PRETENDED to cry in the days following. OBAMA and MALLOY did not shed one tear yet kept wiping their eyes and used their fabricated crying, crackling voices. TOTAL FABRICATION/DECEPTION is coming from the highest levels.
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Nice work.It connects so easily with their story.
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Is there anything that be done with all the information documenting the inaccurate official statements about the Sandy Hook hoax?

Is there any court that will look into charges of fraud?
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Nice work.It connects so easily with their story.
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Why is it whenever there is a decent thread re Sandy Hook it never seems to get anywhere?

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This is very GOOD!!
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Who were the foriegn soldiers taking part in whatever this was? Why were they there? What language were they speaking?
Slavics have said not slavic.

Was it Russian? Israeli?
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ALL EVIDENCE POINTS TO COMPASS GROUP BLOOMBERG EMPLOYEE SCOTT VOLLMER ( SON OF KINDERGARTEN TEACHER JANET VOLLMER ) NO EVIDENCE NO EVIDENCE NO EVIDENCE AT ALL POINTS TO ADAM LANZA

Virtually all media reports on Lanza have been baseless with unnamed official sources. Even his picture is a construct.. So let’s take a closer look at factual matters shall we?

We can assess the corroborating circumstances and facts and investigate further to determine if the allegations that Scott Vollmer (Compass Group Bloomberg employee ) was involved have any merit and if this issue should be pursued further. Every person is innocent until proven guilty. Like others before me have stated I agree that I would never bear false witness against anyone for any reason. The tragic events that transpired at Sandy Hook demand an investigation for truth and justice. Based on the circumstances detailed herein I believe a comprehensive and thorough examination of Scott Vollmer is warranted.

To this day we have no motive at all for Adam Lanza or any evidence of anger, violent outbursts, aggression or resentment. I also am unaware of any substantive evidence that he has any experience with firearms at all. Multiple reports from the corporate media have been proven false or baseless. His mother was not a teacher, he did not get in an altercation the day before, he did not try to buy a gun at Dick’s Sporting goods, his mother was not going to have him committed, he was without basis accused of being a Satanist, his picture is a photoshop fabrication. If he had a driver’s license, as reported, why doesn’t the State make that picture available? At this point I don’t think we can believe anything at all that the media reports about Lanza or his mother.

What other motive might there be for such an attack? What transpired thereafter ?

Within weeks of this incident New York State legislators were proposing gun confiscation and a national dialogue commenced questioning whether Americans need to own AR-15s. Despite that AR-15s are statistically nonexistent in gun crimes all of the emphasis was on banning assault weapons primarily the AR-15. Who would have an interest in this type of outcome? Draw your own conclusion.

The first responders reported on the radio that there were multiple weapons including long rifles and shotguns. Multiple people were fleeing the scene onto Crestwood and into the woods, one of whom being an armed off duty SWAT officer as reported by Andrew Gorosko of the Newtown Bee. I would think you may be more interested in why an armed SWAT officer from another town was in the woods and who he was rather than somebody potentially mistaking somebody else for Dawn Hochsprung. So the evidence that there were multiple assailants is compelling. However such an attack would require someone familiar with the school would it not ?

Unlike the Hochsprung “interview”, we know exactly who was involved in the statement attributed to school nurse Sally Cox. USA Reporter Andrea McCarren asserted that she had identified and spoke with Sally Cox the school nurse. In that statement she stated that the shooter walked into her office, they met eyes, she jumped under her desk, and he inexplicably walked away. Upon further inquiry by McCarren she further added that the shooter’s mother was a kind, loving experienced kindergarten teacher just the the kind of person you would want with your five year old. Based on reliance on this statement alone we would believe that it would be reasonable to thoroughly examine any of the sons of the kindergarten teachers at the school. Would any of them have a motive to have committed an act like this and do the facts and circumstances corroborate the allegations? If this was a fabrication then there should be ample exculpatory evidence and if this there was substance to this assertion there would likely be corroborating evidence. Either way this should be thoroughly investigated and dispositioned

The story that Sally Cox told on ABC was very similar except that in this interview she only saw the shooter’s feet. She then said that the secretary, Barbara Halstead, ran into her office and that she held the phone while Halstead dialed 911. The two of them then hid in a closet for four hours until 1:15pm and in doing so evaded at least 4 sweeps of the building by the Police SWAT teams.

Both stories are similar with the exception that the second story fails to identify the shooter and that she stated that she hid away in a closet until 1:15pm. So either an imposter made up the story about the shooter’s mother being an nice, loving experienced kindergarten teacher or Andrea McCarren made that up out of the clear blue sky or possibly Andrea McCarren reported the information accurately.

Which story appears to be more plausible? A simple conversation with Andrea McCarren and Sally Cox should readily clarify this issue and on a matter of this importance has anyone taken the initiative to do so? Is there any reason either of them would not cooperate? From what I have read Andrea McCarren is not responding to questions on this issue. Might Sally Cox have been coerced into changing her statement if the perpetrators of this act were powerful politically connected individuals ? Might Andrea McCarren be reticent to come forth for the same reason? There is a picture in a video of Scott Vollmer with both Presidents Clinton and Obama so might he have high level connections to influence such matters?

Furthermore the 911 call from Sally Cox’s phone could readily corroborate whether or not they positively identified the shooter.

So lacking a conclusive statement from Andrea McCarren or Sally Cox let us examine the other related facts and circumstances:

1. CNN reported that Federal Officials stated that the shooter had a connection to the school-
2. Lt. Vance conspicuously and completely avoided answering the question when asked if the shooter’s mother had any affiliation with the school. Why?
3. The shooter almost certainly was familiar with the school security features.
4. The shooter knew exactly where to park the car to avert being seen from the office.
5. The shooter arrived almost precisely at 9:30 am indicating that he knew what time the doors would be locked.
6. Joanne Didonato, secretary, took a rare sick day on the day of the attack. A member of her family is affiliated with Scott Vollmer
7. Kevin Anzellotti, head janitor, also reportedly had the day off. After somebody mentioned that point on his Face Book page he deleted all entries for that period. He is a friend of Janet Vollmer.
8. Scott Vollmer has affiliations with members of the Manfredonia family, one of whom also works or worked for Compass Group. Chris Manfredonia was detained at the scene and resides two houses away from Adam Lanza.
9. During the school shooting Janet Vollmer reportedly kept her cool and read her students a book. Is this a realistic response under the circumstances?
10. Natalie Hammond was one of only two wounded adults that had survivable injuries with one or more wounds to the extremities. All of the other victims, except one, were killed and received 3 to 11 shots each? Natalie Hammond is also a friend of Janet Vollmer.
11. The second adult wounded victim remains a mystery. There is a video of a woman on a gurney being placed in an ambulance. Some suggest this may be Janet Vollmer. This person should be readily identifiable and yet we still do not know who she is. Is this Janet Vollmer?
12. At 11:38:28 am on December 14 the Police Radio transmission stated that they were transporting someone to the Newtown Police Department.
13. At or about 12:16 pm on December 14 Danbury News Times reporter Libor Jany tweeted that there was police activity on Philo Curtis Rd. possibly related to the shooting. Scott Vollmer has an affiliate that resides on Philo Curtis Rd. Was the person taken to the Newtown PD at 11:38 am an affiliate of Scott Vollmer?
14. News reports began to unfold on this issue in real time but were abruptly halted and scrubbed. This report also indicated that a body was found.
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
15. The Danbury News Times also later reported that SWAT Teams had gone onto Philo Curtis Rd.
[link to www.newstimes.com]
16. At 9:58:25 am on December 14 someone clearly states on the police radio “take the life of Adam” what is the impact and implications of this statement?
17. Was Sally Cox spared by the shooter randomly or because she had been with the school 15 years with Vollmer’s mother and that she had a very good relationship with Janet (she made very laudatory comments about her to Andrea McCarren didn’t she ?) and that she knew Scott Vollmer personally?
18. John Miller of CBS tweeted at 1:13 pm on December 14 that a potential second shooter was in custody. Is it a coincidence that Sally Cox stated in her interview with ABC that she and Barbara Halstead emerged from the closet two minutes later at 1:15pm?
19. Most directly Scott Vollmer’s mother is in fact an experienced kindergarten teacher at Sandy Hook Elementary School
[link to newtownbee.com]

More importantly what does the overall available evidence in totality suggest regarding what transpired on December 14, 2012?

A. Adam Lanza – A frail, shy, computer geek, lone gunman with no history of violence, no affiliation with the school, no evidence of firearms proficiency or usage, no evidence of resentment or anger toward his mother, never leaving his mother’s basement, from a wealthy comfortable background suddenly smashing his hard drives, initiating an attack by first killing his mother then wearing a mask and carrying an AR-15 and two separate handguns, a shotgun in the trunk, with hundreds of rounds in numerous magazines ? without any motive at all ? without any witnesses? without any video? without any 911 calls identifying Lanza? In the end Lanza left only one identified wounded survivor and one unidentified wounded survivor. Are we really supposed to believe that Adam Lanza performed that act with that level of lethality without any evidence at all? After all of the previous false reports about Adam Lanza now we are expected to believe this absurd fallacy?

or is alternative B more likely ?

B. A team of personnel including those trained and familiar with firearms and accompanied by someone very familiar with the school security procedures and features ?

Listen to the radio transmissions between 9:39 and 9:55 am and observe how many “suspects” are apprehended. We have both audio and video evidence of multiple personnel fleeing from police. We have evidence suggesting multiple weapons with excessive quantities of bullets and magazines far exceeding what a lone gunman would attempt to carry especially a frail 115 pound computer geek. Who was confronted on Crestwood? Who ran away into the woods? Who were the others in the woods that evaded arrest? Who were the personnel wearing ski masks and a nun outfit in the maroon van and why were they suspects? One member of a SWAT Team from another town was detained and we have no explanation yet for his presence?

So based on the evidence readily available to the public which conclusion seems more plausible? Adam RAMBO Lanza or Scott Vollmer and associates?

What a travesty of justice that we would allow the slaughter of these innocent little children and adults to be rationalized with such an absurd theory in total contradiction with the available facts and evidence. How depraved and ignorant has our society become where this is acceptable ?
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This is excellent analysis. And, like Fred, I believe that Vollmer is not the lady on the gurney. As of yet nobody seems to be able to identify this mystery woman.
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So do you think Janet Vollmer knows about it or is she not in the loop?
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I have tried searching for Compass Group Bloomberg and not sure what to look for. Bloomberg from NY?

Also where are the photos of Vollmer, Bubba, and Blamer?

Who is the friend of Vollmer on that road?
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Nice thread. The Vollmer connection is one of the best I've seen. I there any way he's connected to the gas company that supposedly owned most of the houses that the victims lived in?
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From the memory hole blog comments:

ALL EVIDENCE POINTS TO COMPASS GROUP BLOOMBERG EMPLOYEE SCOTT VOLLMER ( SON OF KINDERGARTEN TEACHER JANET VOLLMER ) NO EVIDENCE NO EVIDENCE NO EVIDENCE AT ALL POINTS TO ADAM LANZA

Virtually all media reports on Lanza have been baseless with unnamed official sources. Even his picture is a construct.. So let’s take a closer look at factual matters shall we?





Excellent observations!

I have also wondered about Scott Vollmer as per the Cox interview interpreted by newscaster. I had idea the reason she was in the school so long was not because she was hiding in the closet all that time but because she was somehow being briefed.

I also felt the killer did not follow the sequence of events once inside the school as the media portrays it. I think Soto's class was the first classroom killer entered and then Rousseau's class was next.

Below is timeline taken from police radio and an interview of the first responders with my theory added.

Officer William Chapman was in the Newtown police station along with Officer McGowan
and others
when the first reports of shots and breaking glass came in early on the day of the massacre.
The school was more than two miles away. They traveled up Route 25, then right onto
Church Hill Road.
“We drove as fast as we’ve ever driven,” Officer McGowan said.


"Caller is indicating she thinks that someone is shooting in the building"

Shooter has shot principal and phycologist.
Shooter making his way to Soto's class which is the classroom after closed
door class.
I don't think Soto had the presence of mind to shut and/or lock the door.
I never heard any reports of him shooting out this door or having any problem
getting into this classroom.
Doesn't help with the hero story. She was scared shitless - I don't blame her.
Shooter shoots in Soto's class.
Six students run out.

Barbara Sidley drives up and sees them on their escape.
Meanwhile, shooter is making his way to Rousseau's class who can't lock the door.
Barbara and woman are now standing outside the front door.
Shooter starts to shoot up Rousseau's class
Barbara and woman run.
The cops are now outside the front door and grab Barbara to safety
who is now nowhere near the front door cause she heard the gunshots and ran.

"The entrance of the Sandy Hook School. The front glass has been broken and they're unsure why"

They (Chapman andMcGowan) made it in under three minutes, arriving in the parking lot
while gunfire could still be heard.
“I got out of the car and grabbed my rifle and it stopped for second,” Officer Chapman said.
“But then we heard more popping. You could tell it was rifle fire. And it was up so close,
it sounded like it was coming from outside. So we were all looking around for someone to
shoot back at.”
As the officers converged on the building, the gunfire stopped again. Officers Chapman
and Scott Smith made their way to the front entrance.

All units the individual I have on the phone is continuing to hear what he believes to be gunfire

All units responding to Sandy Hook School at this time. The shooting appears to have stopped.
The school is in lockdown

"The teachers saw 2 shadows running past the building past the gym which would be rear"

"Yea, we got em they're coming at me down Crestwood"

"This is it"
The officers turned their radios down. They entered the front lobby and saw the first bodies,
those of Dawn Hochsprung, the principal, they would later learn, and Mary Sherlach,
the school psychologist.

Killer may hear the cops and starts making his way back up the hall and
pops back into Soto's class.

"I will need two ambulances at this time".

The shooter is apparently still shooting in the office area 12 Dickerson Drive

Take exit 10... continue on Riverside Road, Dickerson Drive. Make sure you have your vests on.

(someone says they've apprehended someone and have them proned out)

"Last known shots were in the front of the sc"(inaudible)
We have one fatal in room one... (inaudible) received a wound to the foot...

"we've got bodies in here"

"we've got an injured person in room number 9 with numerous gunshot wounds"

more shots fired at this time??? (see 9:49)
Killer kills himself.
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Can anyone confirm that either Soto's or Rousseau's class was Room #9?
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How do you fit in all the actors? Obviously most "parents" that we have seen giving interviews didn't lose any children. Or siblings, etc.
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Can anyone confirm that either Soto's or Rousseau's class was Room #9?
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but how could cops call "room 1" or "Room 9" on radio?
they dont know the building... so how could others cops and EMT understand which room it it?
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Can anyone confirm that either Soto's or Rousseau's class was Room #9?
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but how could cops call "room 1" or "Room 9" on radio?
they dont know the building... so how could others cops and EMT understand which room it it?
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Because it was a drill turned into a hoax?
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Can anyone confirm that either Soto's or Rousseau's class was Room #9?
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but how could cops call "room 1" or "Room 9" on radio?
they dont know the building... so how could others cops and EMT understand which room it it?
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Because there are numbers in front of each rooms.

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These should all be pinned with lights and sirens on them wtf?0