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Mxxpower (OP) User ID: 6853586 United States 02/20/2013 04:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you're scaring me, all puffed up and angry. Quoting: david 33758960 i...i don't know what the answer is you've got me so frightened and confused ok....ok 30 years old, we'll go with 30 years or maybe even 25 , would that be better? please don't be so mad Yes, you are scared becuase your whole world just crumbled. OMG I'M NOT AN APE!!! I guess it might be wrong to do certain things then... |
david User ID: 33758960 United States 02/20/2013 04:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you're scaring me, all puffed up and angry. Quoting: david 33758960 i...i don't know what the answer is you've got me so frightened and confused ok....ok 30 years old, we'll go with 30 years or maybe even 25 , would that be better? please don't be so mad Yes, you are scared becuase your whole world just crumbled. OMG I'M NOT AN APE!!! I guess it might be wrong to do certain things then... now there ya go dragging evolution in all kicking and screaming, when we're trying to get to the bottom of this age o' the planet thing. i think you should come to class a little better prepared. |
Mxxpower (OP) User ID: 6853586 United States 02/20/2013 04:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you're scaring me, all puffed up and angry. Quoting: david 33758960 i...i don't know what the answer is you've got me so frightened and confused ok....ok 30 years old, we'll go with 30 years or maybe even 25 , would that be better? please don't be so mad Yes, you are scared becuase your whole world just crumbled. OMG I'M NOT AN APE!!! I guess it might be wrong to do certain things then... now there ya go dragging evolution in all kicking and screaming, when we're trying to get to the bottom of this age o' the planet thing. i think you should come to class a little better prepared. Well David, You should maybe answer the question I proposed. I think I said it 4 or 5 times now with no response. Why don't you prove you aren't a full on retard, and answer it? |
david User ID: 33758960 United States 02/20/2013 04:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you're scaring me, all puffed up and angry. Quoting: david 33758960 i...i don't know what the answer is you've got me so frightened and confused ok....ok 30 years old, we'll go with 30 years or maybe even 25 , would that be better? please don't be so mad Yes, you are scared becuase your whole world just crumbled. OMG I'M NOT AN APE!!! I guess it might be wrong to do certain things then... now there ya go dragging evolution in all kicking and screaming, when we're trying to get to the bottom of this age o' the planet thing. i think you should come to class a little better prepared. Well David, You should maybe answer the question I proposed. I think I said it 4 or 5 times now with no response. Why don't you prove you aren't a full on retard, and answer it? i forgot, what was the question? |
Mxxpower (OP) User ID: 6853586 United States 02/20/2013 04:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Mxxpower Yes, you are scared becuase your whole world just crumbled. OMG I'M NOT AN APE!!! I guess it might be wrong to do certain things then... now there ya go dragging evolution in all kicking and screaming, when we're trying to get to the bottom of this age o' the planet thing. i think you should come to class a little better prepared. Well David, You should maybe answer the question I proposed. I think I said it 4 or 5 times now with no response. Why don't you prove you aren't a full on retard, and answer it? i forgot, what was the question? Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, maybe half on retard. The openning post of this thread states what? It asks for evidence of a 4.5 billion year old earth. Then, because no one answered, I asked the point of my question. How can you explain the Earth rotation, the Moon moving away, etc over 4.5 billion years. The answer appears to be bring up Kent Hovind, or some other nonsensical bullshit. So fucking answer |
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david User ID: 33758960 United States 02/20/2013 05:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: david 33758960 now there ya go dragging evolution in all kicking and screaming, when we're trying to get to the bottom of this age o' the planet thing. i think you should come to class a little better prepared. Well David, You should maybe answer the question I proposed. I think I said it 4 or 5 times now with no response. Why don't you prove you aren't a full on retard, and answer it? i forgot, what was the question? Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, maybe half on retard. The openning post of this thread states what? It asks for evidence of a 4.5 billion year old earth. Then, because no one answered, I asked the point of my question. How can you explain the Earth rotation, the Moon moving away, etc over 4.5 billion years. The answer appears to be bring up Kent Hovind, or some other nonsensical bullshit. So fucking answer oh sure, it's a fine thing for you. warm and snug in your lovely home, crackling fire on the hearth. ponderous tome concerning the age of the earth in your lap. a steaming mug of hot chocolate on the end table, and various and sundry goodies close at hand. you have so much, good friends like david to banter with. but wait! look behind you ......there in the window. a poignant visage ,,,Kent Hovind nose pressed up against the glass, lighting a last few dwindling matches to keep his claw like hands from freezing in the unforgiving february chill. for god's sake man,! let him in! |
recollector User ID: 26964049 United Kingdom 02/20/2013 05:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll elaborate, since you are afraid to comment. Quoting: Mxxpower How do you explain the Earth slowing down, and evolution How do you explain the sun burning up, and evolution How do you explain the Moon moving away... and 4.6 billion years of evolution? they can't explain that through science, only through science fiction brainwashing mainstream media atheism propaganda. BRAVO !!! |
Mxxpower (OP) User ID: 6853586 United States 02/20/2013 05:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Mxxpower Well David, You should maybe answer the question I proposed. I think I said it 4 or 5 times now with no response. Why don't you prove you aren't a full on retard, and answer it? i forgot, what was the question? Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, maybe half on retard. The openning post of this thread states what? It asks for evidence of a 4.5 billion year old earth. Then, because no one answered, I asked the point of my question. How can you explain the Earth rotation, the Moon moving away, etc over 4.5 billion years. The answer appears to be bring up Kent Hovind, or some other nonsensical bullshit. So fucking answer oh sure, it's a fine thing for you. warm and snug in your lovely home, crackling fire on the hearth. ponderous tome concerning the age of the earth in your lap. a steaming mug of hot chocolate on the end table, and various and sundry goodies close at hand. you have so much, good friends like david to banter with. but wait! look behind you ......there in the window. a poignant visage ,,,Kent Hovind nose pressed up against the glass, lighting a last few dwindling matches to keep his claw like hands from freezing in the unforgiving february chill. for god's sake man,! let him in! LOL Thanks for going FULL RETARD! The age of the Earth is what? something something Kent Hovind? You aren't much of a challenge, hardly worth your salary. DERPA DERPA DERPA KENT HOVIND! DERPA DERP DERP DERP DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO] You fuckers are the funniest people |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34378285 United Kingdom 02/20/2013 05:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surely the funny one is the guy with the whole internet at his disposal who still can't answer these questions for himself. The answer to the age of the earth question was given in the first page of replies and the slowing rotation of the earth is caused by tidal braking. Further, when the tides bulge the earths rotation slows a little and then when the tides settle again the earth speeds up and the moon is boosted a tiny bit further from us. Or maybe a fairy on a cloud did it all... |
Mxxpower (OP) User ID: 6853586 United States 02/20/2013 05:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surely the funny one is the guy with the whole internet at his disposal who still can't answer these questions for himself. The answer to the age of the earth question was given in the first page of replies and the slowing rotation of the earth is caused by tidal braking. Further, when the tides bulge the earths rotation slows a little and then when the tides settle again the earth speeds up and the moon is boosted a tiny bit further from us. Or maybe a fairy on a cloud did it all... Ok, and your explaination of the moon moving away from the Earth? Where was it 4.6 billion years ago.. How far out would it have to be to not kill everything with tidal forces? As soon as 1 million years ago, the moon's gravitational effect would be so strong, we would have nothing but tides. So explain, how the hell survival of the fittest, origin of species, or any other fairytale could have happenned during this period and not be killed? |
david User ID: 33758960 United States 02/20/2013 05:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, maybe half on retard. The openning post of this thread states what? It asks for evidence of a 4.5 billion year old earth. Then, because no one answered, I asked the point of my question. How can you explain the Earth rotation, the Moon moving away, etc over 4.5 billion years. The answer appears to be bring up Kent Hovind, or some other nonsensical bullshit. So fucking answer oh sure, it's a fine thing for you. warm and snug in your lovely home, crackling fire on the hearth. ponderous tome concerning the age of the earth in your lap. a steaming mug of hot chocolate on the end table, and various and sundry goodies close at hand. you have so much, good friends like david to banter with. but wait! look behind you ......there in the window. a poignant visage ,,,Kent Hovind nose pressed up against the glass, lighting a last few dwindling matches to keep his claw like hands from freezing in the unforgiving february chill. for god's sake man,! let him in! LOL Thanks for going FULL RETARD! The age of the Earth is what? something something Kent Hovind? You aren't much of a challenge, hardly worth your salary. DERPA DERPA DERPA KENT HOVIND! DERPA DERP DERP DERP DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO] You fuckers are the funniest people oh get over yourself. you know doggone well this has been more fun for you, than some tedious argument....some endless, fruitless retreat from moscow, bleeding footprints in the frozen crusted snow. what's the age of the earth? a couple of years older than me i'll reckon, it's really not that important. get a few more years behind you, you'll see. anyway i had fun. all the best to you david |
Mxxpower (OP) User ID: 6853586 United States 02/20/2013 05:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Mxxpower Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, maybe half on retard. The openning post of this thread states what? It asks for evidence of a 4.5 billion year old earth. Then, because no one answered, I asked the point of my question. How can you explain the Earth rotation, the Moon moving away, etc over 4.5 billion years. The answer appears to be bring up Kent Hovind, or some other nonsensical bullshit. So fucking answer oh sure, it's a fine thing for you. warm and snug in your lovely home, crackling fire on the hearth. ponderous tome concerning the age of the earth in your lap. a steaming mug of hot chocolate on the end table, and various and sundry goodies close at hand. you have so much, good friends like david to banter with. but wait! look behind you ......there in the window. a poignant visage ,,,Kent Hovind nose pressed up against the glass, lighting a last few dwindling matches to keep his claw like hands from freezing in the unforgiving february chill. for god's sake man,! let him in! LOL Thanks for going FULL RETARD! The age of the Earth is what? something something Kent Hovind? You aren't much of a challenge, hardly worth your salary. DERPA DERPA DERPA KENT HOVIND! DERPA DERP DERP DERP DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO] You fuckers are the funniest people oh get over yourself. you know doggone well this has been more fun for you, than some tedious argument....some endless, fruitless retreat from moscow, bleeding footprints in the frozen crusted snow. what's the age of the earth? a couple of years older than me i'll reckon, it's really not that important. get a few more years behind you, you'll see. anyway i had fun. all the best to you david Derpa derpa derpa whaaaa? Kent Hovind? I hope you appreciate that paycheck for the lies you are trying to tell on this board. I think you might actually try and answer my question if you are going to comment... I cant go past full on retard. Hyper retard? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34737506 United Kingdom 02/20/2013 05:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here you go Mr Trollman. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34737506 Have a gander at this. Be warned though, there are big words in it so you may have to ask your carer for some help. [link to www.modernreformation.org] Have you had chance to read this yet Mt Trollman? It's written by a godder too so it's (almost) in your language. Here's one passage taken from the link above for you... The Atlantic Ocean: Plate Velocity Confirms Measured Ages of Rocks The details of how radioactive dates are determined are irrelevant for this example. It will be sufficient to make a general observation about their application and proceed with an example of how the dates can be independently verified. The utility, if not the absolute accuracy, of radioactive dating methods is evident from the sheer number of analyses performed every year, with the vast majority yielding ages consistent with independent observations of layering, cross-cutting, or presence of unique fossils. Since the discovery of radioactivity, literally hundreds of thousands of samples have been analyzed from all over the world. If the various radioactive methods yield random or inconsistent dates as often claimed, few researchers (including some of us) would waste valuable resources on these measurements. A simple method for checking the accuracy of radioactive dating methods makes use of our knowledge of plate tectonics: the movement of plates making up the earth's crust. If we consult a map of the Atlantic Ocean floor, a ridge--aptly named the Mid-Atlantic Ridge--is readily visible exactly dividing North and South America from Europe and Africa. Lava observed welling up along the ridge attests to modern day separation of the continents and expansion of the ocean floor. Seafloor ages determined using radioactive methods are consistent with this observation; the farther one moves away from the ridge, the older the seafloor. Maximum ages of about 180 million years are obtained at the edge of the continents. Intermediate ages determined for seafloor samples between the ridge and continents suggest that the rate of spreading has been relatively constant at about 2.5 cm per year since the continents first started splitting 180 million years ago. Now for the test. Satellite stations on different continents allow precise distances to be measured down to the centimeter scale. Long-term measurements of the relative position of North America and North Africa document a steady current spreading rate of 2.5 cm per year--the same value calculated using positions and radioactively determined ages of ocean crust. From these examples, there are only two possible conclusions: either the earth is very old or God intentionally made the earth to appear old. At first glance, apparent age may not raise a red flag, but it should not take much thought to recognize a serious theological problem. Ocean spreading rates and radioactive decay rates are entirely unrelated. If the earth is truly young, it means that God started rapid plate movement and rapid radioactive decay and diminished these independent rates precisely so that today the observed rate of spreading would only appear to confirm the accuracy of radioactive dating methods. From the previous example, the 14C (carbon-14) decay rate is unrelated to the number of tree rings or sediment layers formed in a year, meaning God started creation with a higher 14C decay rate, and a dozen or more tree rings and varves formed each year, and then he diminished each independent process in such a way to only appear to confirm that one varve and one tree ring typically forms each year. In other words, God designed the earth intentionally to mislead all those who are unwilling to ignore the obvious history his natural creation reflects. Reformed believers should be quick to reject this possibility on the grounds that it denies the truth of Romans 1:20, where Paul assures us that God's character is evident in the universe he created. Apparent age makes God a deceiver. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34378285 United Kingdom 02/20/2013 05:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surely the funny one is the guy with the whole internet at his disposal who still can't answer these questions for himself. The answer to the age of the earth question was given in the first page of replies and the slowing rotation of the earth is caused by tidal braking. Further, when the tides bulge the earths rotation slows a little and then when the tides settle again the earth speeds up and the moon is boosted a tiny bit further from us. Or maybe a fairy on a cloud did it all... Ok, and your explaination of the moon moving away from the Earth? Just gave it. According to scientific theory it was a proto planet floating through the cosmos. Good question. That'll give me something to research... As soon as 1 million years ago, the moon's gravitational effect would be so strong, we would have nothing but tides. Quoting: Mxxpower 1 million years ago it would have been roughly 365,000 kilometres away (assuming that the 3.8cm it moves away each year has been constant throughout it's history, which is assuming a lot, admittedly). I couldn.t say off the top of my head whether that would overwhelm the earth and cause "nothing but tides" but you seem quite sure. Perhaps you should cite your sources so we can all review your findings. So explain, how the hell survival of the fittest, origin of species, or any other fairytale could have happenned during this period and not be killed? Quoting: Mxxpower Explain how micro-organisms can live inside volcanoes or in water so acidic it would take the skin off your hand... Life finds a way. That's the beauty of science. Always something new to be learned. |
Mxxpower (OP) User ID: 6853586 United States 02/20/2013 06:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surely the funny one is the guy with the whole internet at his disposal who still can't answer these questions for himself. The answer to the age of the earth question was given in the first page of replies and the slowing rotation of the earth is caused by tidal braking. Further, when the tides bulge the earths rotation slows a little and then when the tides settle again the earth speeds up and the moon is boosted a tiny bit further from us. Or maybe a fairy on a cloud did it all... Ok, and your explaination of the moon moving away from the Earth? Just gave it. According to scientific theory it was a proto planet floating through the cosmos. Good question. That'll give me something to research... As soon as 1 million years ago, the moon's gravitational effect would be so strong, we would have nothing but tides. Quoting: Mxxpower 1 million years ago it would have been roughly 365,000 kilometres away (assuming that the 3.8cm it moves away each year has been constant throughout it's history, which is assuming a lot, admittedly). I couldn.t say off the top of my head whether that would overwhelm the earth and cause "nothing but tides" but you seem quite sure. Perhaps you should cite your sources so we can all review your findings. So explain, how the hell survival of the fittest, origin of species, or any other fairytale could have happenned during this period and not be killed? Quoting: Mxxpower Explain how micro-organisms can live inside volcanoes or in water so acidic it would take the skin off your hand... Life finds a way. That's the beauty of science. Always something new to be learned. Thank you very much for your well thought out response. It only took 7 pages but we finally got there. My explaination for creation, living things is faith based, I won't attempt to prove them. I just want to show the weaknesses in the Earth being 4.6 billion years old, and asked an explaination for them. I do consider the idea we are related to tomatos, or evolving from a rock pretty far fetched. Someone earlier in this thread calculated the sun's mass as far out as pluto using todays decay rates. My math is different, but 4.6 billion years ago, the Earth would be part of the sun. There are still more questions to answer, bravo on your response though. Thank you for your comments |
Mxxpower (OP) User ID: 6853586 United States 02/20/2013 06:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here you go Mr Trollman. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34737506 Have a gander at this. Be warned though, there are big words in it so you may have to ask your carer for some help. [link to www.modernreformation.org] Have you had chance to read this yet Mt Trollman? It's written by a godder too so it's (almost) in your language. Here's one passage taken from the link above for you... The Atlantic Ocean: Plate Velocity Confirms Measured Ages of Rocks The details of how radioactive dates are determined are irrelevant for this example. It will be sufficient to make a general observation about their application and proceed with an example of how the dates can be independently verified. The utility, if not the absolute accuracy, of radioactive dating methods is evident from the sheer number of analyses performed every year, with the vast majority yielding ages consistent with independent observations of layering, cross-cutting, or presence of unique fossils. Since the discovery of radioactivity, literally hundreds of thousands of samples have been analyzed from all over the world. If the various radioactive methods yield random or inconsistent dates as often claimed, few researchers (including some of us) would waste valuable resources on these measurements. A simple method for checking the accuracy of radioactive dating methods makes use of our knowledge of plate tectonics: the movement of plates making up the earth's crust. If we consult a map of the Atlantic Ocean floor, a ridge--aptly named the Mid-Atlantic Ridge--is readily visible exactly dividing North and South America from Europe and Africa. Lava observed welling up along the ridge attests to modern day separation of the continents and expansion of the ocean floor. Seafloor ages determined using radioactive methods are consistent with this observation; the farther one moves away from the ridge, the older the seafloor. Maximum ages of about 180 million years are obtained at the edge of the continents. Intermediate ages determined for seafloor samples between the ridge and continents suggest that the rate of spreading has been relatively constant at about 2.5 cm per year since the continents first started splitting 180 million years ago. Now for the test. Satellite stations on different continents allow precise distances to be measured down to the centimeter scale. Long-term measurements of the relative position of North America and North Africa document a steady current spreading rate of 2.5 cm per year--the same value calculated using positions and radioactively determined ages of ocean crust. From these examples, there are only two possible conclusions: either the earth is very old or God intentionally made the earth to appear old. At first glance, apparent age may not raise a red flag, but it should not take much thought to recognize a serious theological problem. Ocean spreading rates and radioactive decay rates are entirely unrelated. If the earth is truly young, it means that God started rapid plate movement and rapid radioactive decay and diminished these independent rates precisely so that today the observed rate of spreading would only appear to confirm the accuracy of radioactive dating methods. From the previous example, the 14C (carbon-14) decay rate is unrelated to the number of tree rings or sediment layers formed in a year, meaning God started creation with a higher 14C decay rate, and a dozen or more tree rings and varves formed each year, and then he diminished each independent process in such a way to only appear to confirm that one varve and one tree ring typically forms each year. In other words, God designed the earth intentionally to mislead all those who are unwilling to ignore the obvious history his natural creation reflects. Reformed believers should be quick to reject this possibility on the grounds that it denies the truth of Romans 1:20, where Paul assures us that God's character is evident in the universe he created. Apparent age makes God a deceiver. I am sorry, but this is garbage. Just because a continent moves 2.3 cm currently, doesn't mean it always has, or some earthquake didn't start it moving to begin with. It is a decent theory, but again... you have to make an ass ton of assumptions. None of this relates to the Earth being 4.6 billion years old, the age of the moon or sun. |
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Mxxpower (OP) User ID: 6853586 United States 02/20/2013 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It has been 20 mintes and still no answer from David, so I'll just call you a shill with no evidence and a lot of bullshit. Quoting: Mxxpower I think I will point back to this thread for everything you comment on in the future. Evolutionists are retards. Proof? Hypothesis, somewhere? Full on moron... this is you [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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