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Every Knee Shall Bow and Every Tongue Confess

 
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Every Knee Shall Bow and Every Tongue Confess
that Jesus Christ is Lord.
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IT WILL HAPPEN. LOTTA PEEPS GONNA BE PUT IN THEY PLACE QUICK.
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IT WILL HAPPEN. LOTTA PEEPS GONNA BE PUT IN THEY PLACE QUICK.
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Don't sweat it. It's not like anyone is gonna be forced.
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Lord JESUS CHRIST IS THE SAVIOR!!
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this is love????
more like subjugation
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so very very true my freind ....... praise JESUS ....blwkss
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IT WILL HAPPEN. LOTTA PEEPS GONNA BE PUT IN THEY PLACE QUICK.
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Don't sweat it. It's not like anyone is gonna be forced.
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FORCED? YOU DONE GONE STUPID ON US.
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They are going to confess Him because He was lifted up from the Earth, and will draw all men unto Himself.
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this is love????
more like subjugation
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NOPE!, IT WILL BE OF YOUR OWN FREE WILL. BANK ON IT.
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this is love????
more like subjugation
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It's completely voluntary.

Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things, etc.

No sweat.
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this is love????
more like subjugation
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1128116


It's completely voluntary.

Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things, etc.

No sweat.
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^^THIS^^ It says "Every knee will bow," not "Every knee will be made to bow."
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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So if that is true and we will all confess it then won't everyone end up in heaven? Confessing it is what is asked for the free gift of salvation, right?
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So if that is true and we will all confess it then won't everyone end up in heaven?
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Technically, earth, but yes.
1 Corinthians 15 tells us that ultimately, God will become "all in all".

Daniel 2 talks about a Stone, cut without hands, that grinds Nebuchadnezzar's statue to dust, and then grows until it fills the earth. This Stone is Christ and His kingdom.

Habakkuk 2 tells us that eventually, "the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord as the waters cover the sea".

Isaiah 26 tells that when God's judgments are in the earth, its inhabitants will learn righteousness.

Psalm 2 talks about being granted the heathen as an inheritance, and the ends of the earth as a possession.

In Revelation 22, the leaves of the Tree of Life are for the healing of the peoples (Greek = ethnos).

David tells the Father in Psalm 65 "Unto thee shall all flesh come".

In Revelation, we're told that the gates of New Jerusalem never close. Isaiah 60 elaborates upon this, saying in verse 11 that they remain open so the kings and armies of the nations may be brought within.

These things all describe what Ephesians calls "the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus" to become evident in the coming ages.
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So if that is true and we will all confess it then won't everyone end up in heaven?
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Technically, earth, but yes.
1 Corinthians 15 tells us that ultimately, God will become "all in all".

Daniel 2 talks about a Stone, cut without hands, that grinds Nebuchadnezzar's statue to dust, and then grows until it fills the earth. This Stone is Christ and His kingdom.

Habakkuk 2 tells us that eventually, "the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord as the waters cover the sea".

Isaiah 26 tells that when God's judgments are in the earth, its inhabitants will learn righteousness.

Psalm 2 talks about being granted the heathen as an inheritance, and the ends of the earth as a possession.

In Revelation 22, the leaves of the Tree of Life are for the healing of the peoples (Greek = ethnos).

David tells the Father in Psalm 65 "Unto thee shall all flesh come".

In Revelation, we're told that the gates of New Jerusalem never close. Isaiah 60 elaborates upon this, saying in verse 11 that they remain open so the kings and armies of the nations may be brought within.

These things all describe what Ephesians calls "the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus" to become evident in the coming ages.
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So we can have hope that all will eventually find rest in the Creator? That is a very different ending that most of the Christians on here throw around.
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So if that is true and we will all confess it then won't everyone end up in heaven?
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Technically, earth, but yes.
1 Corinthians 15 tells us that ultimately, God will become "all in all".

Daniel 2 talks about a Stone, cut without hands, that grinds Nebuchadnezzar's statue to dust, and then grows until it fills the earth. This Stone is Christ and His kingdom.

Habakkuk 2 tells us that eventually, "the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord as the waters cover the sea".

Isaiah 26 tells that when God's judgments are in the earth, its inhabitants will learn righteousness.

Psalm 2 talks about being granted the heathen as an inheritance, and the ends of the earth as a possession.

In Revelation 22, the leaves of the Tree of Life are for the healing of the peoples (Greek = ethnos).

David tells the Father in Psalm 65 "Unto thee shall all flesh come".

In Revelation, we're told that the gates of New Jerusalem never close. Isaiah 60 elaborates upon this, saying in verse 11 that they remain open so the kings and armies of the nations may be brought within.

These things all describe what Ephesians calls "the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus" to become evident in the coming ages.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


So we can have hope that all will eventually find rest in the Creator? That is a very different ending that most of the Christians on here throw around.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663


Yes, I, too, believe this.

For further reading, try this lecture by N. T. Wright: [link to www.gemacs.com]
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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I didn't realize my tongue had it's own being and consciousness.
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So if that is true and we will all confess it then won't everyone end up in heaven?
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Technically, earth, but yes.
1 Corinthians 15 tells us that ultimately, God will become "all in all".

Daniel 2 talks about a Stone, cut without hands, that grinds Nebuchadnezzar's statue to dust, and then grows until it fills the earth. This Stone is Christ and His kingdom.

Habakkuk 2 tells us that eventually, "the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord as the waters cover the sea".

Isaiah 26 tells that when God's judgments are in the earth, its inhabitants will learn righteousness.

Psalm 2 talks about being granted the heathen as an inheritance, and the ends of the earth as a possession.

In Revelation 22, the leaves of the Tree of Life are for the healing of the peoples (Greek = ethnos).

David tells the Father in Psalm 65 "Unto thee shall all flesh come".

In Revelation, we're told that the gates of New Jerusalem never close. Isaiah 60 elaborates upon this, saying in verse 11 that they remain open so the kings and armies of the nations may be brought within.

These things all describe what Ephesians calls "the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus" to become evident in the coming ages.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


So we can have hope that all will eventually find rest in the Creator? That is a very different ending that most of the Christians on here throw around.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663


Yes, I, too, believe this.

For further reading, try this lecture by N. T. Wright: [link to www.gemacs.com]
 Quoting: Life and Love


Thanks, I will check that out.
I like your signature BTW.
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Technically, earth, but yes.
1 Corinthians 15 tells us that ultimately, God will become "all in all".

Daniel 2 talks about a Stone, cut without hands, that grinds Nebuchadnezzar's statue to dust, and then grows until it fills the earth. This Stone is Christ and His kingdom.

Habakkuk 2 tells us that eventually, "the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord as the waters cover the sea".

Isaiah 26 tells that when God's judgments are in the earth, its inhabitants will learn righteousness.

Psalm 2 talks about being granted the heathen as an inheritance, and the ends of the earth as a possession.

In Revelation 22, the leaves of the Tree of Life are for the healing of the peoples (Greek = ethnos).

David tells the Father in Psalm 65 "Unto thee shall all flesh come".

In Revelation, we're told that the gates of New Jerusalem never close. Isaiah 60 elaborates upon this, saying in verse 11 that they remain open so the kings and armies of the nations may be brought within.

These things all describe what Ephesians calls "the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus" to become evident in the coming ages.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


So we can have hope that all will eventually find rest in the Creator? That is a very different ending that most of the Christians on here throw around.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663


Yes, I, too, believe this.

For further reading, try this lecture by N. T. Wright: [link to www.gemacs.com]
 Quoting: Life and Love


Thanks, I will check that out.
I like your signature BTW.
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Thanks. It can be hard to live up to at times.
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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So we can have hope that all will eventually find rest in the Creator? That is a very different ending that most of the Christians on here throw around.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663


Yes, I, too, believe this.

For further reading, try this lecture by N. T. Wright: [link to www.gemacs.com]
 Quoting: Life and Love


Thanks, I will check that out.
I like your signature BTW.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663


Thanks. It can be hard to live up to at times.
 Quoting: Life and Love


Lol, yes it can.
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So if that is true and we will all confess it then won't everyone end up in heaven?
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No.

Everyone will acknowledge Him, some in joy and some in terror,

but everyone will speak the truth.

Demons declare who He is, but are not going to heaven.
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some in terror
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Perhaps at first, but once "the flesh" gets over the shock of losing its throne, they'll begin to get to know Him and understand the nature of the transaction. It's no different with christians - just a matter of timing.
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So we can have hope that all will eventually find rest in the Creator? That is a very different ending that most of the Christians on here throw around.
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Yes. Only within the past decade have I come to learn this truth. It turns out that the early church fathers widely believed in the eventual redemption of everyone - but when Rome took over and paganized everything, this view magically became "heresy". Ambitious clergy fell in love with idea of a non-negotiable torture chamber, and reigned through fear. The thing has snowballed into the biggest idol in the house today. Most believers have more faith in hellfire to devour people than they do in Christ to save people. I certainly did.
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So if that is true and we will all confess it then won't everyone end up in heaven?
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No.

Everyone will acknowledge Him, some in joy and some in terror,

but everyone will speak the truth.

Demons declare who He is, but are not going to heaven.
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Demon? Why am I to be punished like a demon just because I don't believe in the story of Jesus and bow at his feet? Do you think I deserve the same punishment as someone who loves evil?
Another thing that's always bothered me, demons punishing people would be heaven to them.
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So we can have hope that all will eventually find rest in the Creator? That is a very different ending that most of the Christians on here throw around.
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Yes. Only within the past decade have I come to learn this truth. It turns out that the early church fathers widely believed in the eventual redemption of everyone - but when Rome took over and paganized everything, this view magically became "heresy". Ambitious clergy fell in love with idea of a non-negotiable torture chamber, and reigned through fear. The thing has snowballed into the biggest idol in the house today. Most believers have more faith in hellfire to devour people than they do in Christ to save people. I certainly did.
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Now this makes more sense. Why would God create something just to torture it for eternity? Sounds more like Satan than God.
Still, I believe God is everywhere and within everything, and is able to experience creation through us. We are living the thoughts of God.
At least that is how is see it.
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So if that is true and we will all confess it then won't everyone end up in heaven?
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No.

Everyone will acknowledge Him, some in joy and some in terror,

but everyone will speak the truth.

Demons declare who He is, but are not going to heaven.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34783170


Demon? Why am I to be punished like a demon just because I don't believe in the story of Jesus and bow at his feet? Do you think I deserve the same punishment as someone who loves evil?
Another thing that's always bothered me, demons punishing people would be heaven to them.
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Just so you understand me, "Jesus" was one of us. From his teaching we can conclude that he came to show us a way to live and become one with the creator. He never intended to become some idol on a cross to be used at the gate for a free pass. He found his connection (after a lot of work) with the creator and tried to help others do the same.
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Still, I believe God is everywhere and within everything, and is able to experience creation through us. We are living the thoughts of God.
At least that is how is see it.
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Not bad

:)
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If Jc comes back i think all the fanatically religious will be let down.....JC will spend all his time helping the bad and lost souls other than the blind followers we are all getting saved...no one is special
I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day.



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If Jc comes back i think all the fanatically religious will be let down.....JC will spend all his time helping the bad and lost souls other than the blind followers we are all getting saved...no one is special
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lala

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for every knee shall bow, and every tounge confess, Jesus Christ is Lord.."


Meaning

The knees are symbolic of that which keeps you upright, boastful and arrogant in nature, to bend the knee means to humble yourself before the universe and the power manifesting through nature into you, not to hamper it's arrival by being an Egoist.


The knee is asymbol of moral strength, or submission to the laws of order and progress, by restraining the lower activities (emotional center) and weakening them by bending to the higher will WITHIN.



Every tongue shall confess

The tongue is a symbol of the expression of truth, or the active manifestation of the logos (word) on several planesof nature.


"Their tongues prtude from their mouths as far as the world of Brahma". The higher self and the Individual duality seated in the casual-body are united in harmony, and their expression of truth is in accordance with devine reality, the actual realising of potential.



The tongue is also a symbol of the expression of falsity and perversion of truth and right. And the son of God, the active power of the eternal truth, taking the "sword of the spirit" went forth in the strength of the Divine Will, slew his enemies the desires , and "tore out their toungs," a symbol of falcity of pervisity, and the vitatility which had before animated them was disapated and flowed to the lower planes, where in it was resolved into its primary constituents.


"By the tounge is signified the doctrine of the church or any religion, but in an opposite sense, false doctrine."



"Casting out the old man, plucking out the right eye, maiming self of the right hand-there is no growth without some sorrow. Conflict is the word that defines man's path from darkness to light. No holiness is won by any other means than this, that wickedness should be slain day by day, and hour by hour.



In long lingering agony often, with the blood of the heart pouring out at every quivering vein, you are to cut right through the life and being of that sinful self; to do what the Word does, pierce to the dividing asunder of the thoughts and intents of the heart."



James 3:5 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth! 3:6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell. 3:7 For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind: " The INNER animals.


James says that, even in his day, all beasts, birds, serpents, and sea creatures had been tamed by humans. 3:8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

Jesus Christ is lord

A symbol of the indwelling Higher self (Christ) or divine spirit in man, evolving towards complete universal manifestation. In other words, it is the Christ power, but not quite yet perfected in the human heart/brain.

It represents the personality towars the end of the earthy cylcle of life, becoming perfected through meditation, as in the death of the lower nature and the rise of the higher Christ consciousness.

The meaning of the symbol varies somewhat between the exalted Christ and the human, unperfected Christ power/soul, as one still living at the animal level of life on this earth.







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that Jesus Christ is Lord.
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Still, I believe God is everywhere and within everything, and is able to experience creation through us. We are living the thoughts of God.
At least that is how is see it.
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Not bad

:)
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Thanks :-)