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Protest-ANTS.. An exercise in SOLA SCRIPTORA.

 
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Thread: The Roman Catholic Church's doctrine of transubstantiation is satanic.
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I dont respond to threads dude.. If you got something to say... say it.. grow a pair... what do you got? Your like a person with alot of tattoos,,, they got alot to say but just dont know how to say it ..
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There is no time period from which you can have flesh or blood of Jesus.

If you say you have "flesh" from before the world was created...you deny that Jesus came in the flesh. John 1

If you say that you have "flesh" from while Jesus was on earth...you deny that Jesus died, rose from the dead and ascended into heaven (Apostle's creed, nicene creed, Bible.)

If you say that you have flesh from Jesus NOW...then you say that Jesus has returned already...further you say that Jesus is not now in spiritual flesh (1 Corinthians 15)...the experience of Paul in Acts 9 and John in Revelations 1 say that Jesus is now in spiritual flesh. 1 Corinthians 15 also says that the mortal cannot partake of the immortal...so no spiritual flesh for you...

That leaves your Roman Catholic doctrine of transubstantiation as a lie and Satanic! Gnaw on that for a little while!
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OP...wez, waitin' for uz? Where you at? Uz so tuff jus little earlier...no you ain't got no answers...where you at?...see the question quoted above...uz transubstantiation is under attack an uz ain't got no defense?
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Thread: The Roman Catholic Church's doctrine of transubstantiation is satanic.
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I dont respond to threads dude.. If you got something to say... say it.. grow a pair... what do you got? Your like a person with alot of tattoos,,, they got alot to say but just dont know how to say it ..
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There is no time period from which you can have flesh or blood of Jesus.

If you say you have "flesh" from before the world was created...you deny that Jesus came in the flesh. John 1

If you say that you have "flesh" from while Jesus was on earth...you deny that Jesus died, rose from the dead and ascended into heaven (Apostle's creed, nicene creed, Bible.)

If you say that you have flesh from Jesus NOW...then you say that Jesus has returned already...further you say that Jesus is not now in spiritual flesh (1 Corinthians 15)...the experience of Paul in Acts 9 and John in Revelations 1 say that Jesus is now in spiritual flesh. 1 Corinthians 15 also says that the mortal cannot partake of the immortal...so no spiritual flesh for you...

That leaves your Roman Catholic doctrine of transubstantiation as a lie and Satanic! Gnaw on that for a little while!
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I crushed your fellow heretics already on this matter on page 1.. but for you I will do it again,,
WORD OF GOD.. John 6:54

Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. [55] He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day.

When Jesus says Amen Amen it means LISTEN UP what I am about to say is Vital!!

LUKE 22 :19 The Last Supper the institution of the Holy Eucharist.. The first Transubstantiation..

19..And taking bread, he gave thanks, and brake; and gave to them, saying: This is my body, which is given for you. Do this for a commemoration of me. [Luke 22:19] [Latin] [20] In like manner the chalice also, after he had supped, saying: This is the chalice, the new testament in my blood, which shall be shed for you.

DO THIS IN COMMEMORATION OF ME.. Clearly states that Jesus orders us to repeat this process after his death..

I Corinthians 11:26 ST Paul Clearly Explaining Transubstantiation.

For as often as you shall eat this bread, and drink the chalice, you shall shew the death of the Lord, until he come. [27] Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord. [28] But let a man prove himself: and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of the chalice. [29] For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord. [30] Therefore are there many infirm and weak among you, and many sleep.

Yeah your washed up but let me continue...

I Corinthians 10 :16 ST Paul loves Transubstantiation

The chalice of benediction, which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? And the bread, which we break, is it not the partaking of the body of the Lord? [17] For we, being many, are one bread, one body, all that partake of one bread

The Scripture you have quoted is the biggest out of context cut and paste job ever,, These verses are not dealing with the lords supper.. I have just provided you with SOME Word of God stating that it is ALL ABOUT TRANSUBSTANTIATION..
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This is my life talking to Heretics
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Op makes me want to turn catholic due to his language, look first off you dont mix slang with the word of god, while your trying to tell us its ok to ask mary to intercede for us, when it clearly says,I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me. John 14:6

why is it so hard for people to understand that verse?

easy as 123.... We believe Jesus rose from the dead there for making him higher than any. that makes him alive. Now when the saints and mary died, they did not rise for that would have voided jesus... Can we agree? Now that means if you pray to saint and mary, I dont care how you try to sugar coat it, thats what your doing cause they are dead. Thats border line which what we would call WitchCraft. Now we can ask one another to pray to god thru jesus for one another because we are living. Remember God is a Jealous God and wont stand for others to be worshiped. The Vatican is just a massive organization spoke about in Rev. 17,18. How anyone couldnt read that and not Understand, means your in denial. God also says, " That in those days they will say Lord Lord did we not Prophesise in thy name, did we not cast out Demons in thy Name? He says to them TURN FROM ME, I NEVER KNEW YOU. He is talking to the ones who think they are believers. Almost every church today teaches wrong also, they like to put their own rules with scriptures. We know what god says about adding and taking from the word also. Nuff Said.
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16


What about the people who cant take of the bread and wine, but believe? Do they still lose?

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The problem with Catholics is that ya'll went back under the law, back to the high preist situation. Ya'll even call the POPE HOLY FATHER!!! I think this was said one time in the bible representing GOD! JESUS was the ultimate sacrifice, and ya'll think by doing works save you.
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Thread: The Roman Catholic Church's doctrine of transubstantiation is satanic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35096685


I dont respond to threads dude.. If you got something to say... say it.. grow a pair... what do you got? Your like a person with alot of tattoos,,, they got alot to say but just dont know how to say it ..
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There is no time period from which you can have flesh or blood of Jesus.

If you say you have "flesh" from before the world was created...you deny that Jesus came in the flesh. John 1

If you say that you have "flesh" from while Jesus was on earth...you deny that Jesus died, rose from the dead and ascended into heaven (Apostle's creed, nicene creed, Bible.)

If you say that you have flesh from Jesus NOW...then you say that Jesus has returned already...further you say that Jesus is not now in spiritual flesh (1 Corinthians 15)...the experience of Paul in Acts 9 and John in Revelations 1 say that Jesus is now in spiritual flesh. 1 Corinthians 15 also says that the mortal cannot partake of the immortal...so no spiritual flesh for you...

That leaves your Roman Catholic doctrine of transubstantiation as a lie and Satanic! Gnaw on that for a little while!
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I crushed your fellow heretics already on this matter on page 1.. but for you I will do it again,,
WORD OF GOD.. John 6:54

Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. [55] He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day.

When Jesus says Amen Amen it means LISTEN UP what I am about to say is Vital!!

LUKE 22 :19 The Last Supper the institution of the Holy Eucharist.. The first Transubstantiation..

19..And taking bread, he gave thanks, and brake; and gave to them, saying: This is my body, which is given for you. Do this for a commemoration of me. [Luke 22:19] [Latin] [20] In like manner the chalice also, after he had supped, saying: This is the chalice, the new testament in my blood, which shall be shed for you.

DO THIS IN COMMEMORATION OF ME.. Clearly states that Jesus orders us to repeat this process after his death..

I Corinthians 11:26 ST Paul Clearly Explaining Transubstantiation.

For as often as you shall eat this bread, and drink the chalice, you shall shew the death of the Lord, until he come. [27] Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord. [28] But let a man prove himself: and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of the chalice. [29] For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord. [30] Therefore are there many infirm and weak among you, and many sleep.

Yeah your washed up but let me continue...

I Corinthians 10 :16 ST Paul loves Transubstantiation

The chalice of benediction, which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? And the bread, which we break, is it not the partaking of the body of the Lord? [17] For we, being many, are one bread, one body, all that partake of one bread

The Scripture you have quoted is the biggest out of context cut and paste job ever,, These verses are not dealing with the lords supper.. I have just provided you with SOME Word of God stating that it is ALL ABOUT TRANSUBSTANTIATION..
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Have you ever noticed that Roman Catholics have to invent new definitions to words to protect their doctrine?

I will assume that you are older than 8 years old. Do you remember when you were 8 years old? I will assume that you have memories from when you were 8 years old. Now, if on your 8th birthday you got a big trophy with your name on it that said "In honor of your 8th birthday!" What would you think? Let me spell this out for you in bold and caps...hopefully it will penetrate your blinded spiritual eyes...

THE TROPHY WOULD BE IN COMMEMORATION OF YOUR 8TH BIRTHDAY!!! IT IS NOT YOUR 8TH BIRTHDAY TODAY. Do you not understand the difference between MEMORY and "LIVE"?!?!? "Do this IN MEMORY OF ME" does NOT mean you are taking part in the original 8th birthday - you are partaking in MEMORIES of your 8th birthday!!! When Jesus said, "Do this in memory of Me." He was NOT saying that you are actually eating His flesh or drinking His blood. You are partaking of bread and wine....IN MEMORY of His sacrifice.

If you are going to take 1 Corinthians 10:16 as literal...why not take 1 Corinthians 10:17 as well...it says we are "ONE BODY" - by your standards...we are all physically one body...I'd appreciate it if you don't smoke or eat too much fat...I am worried about our heart - LOL!!!

But, let us do away with your nonsense now...so...you are saying that are eating flesh from when Jesus was on earth...utter nonsense. You deny that Jesus ascended into heaven...because, you still have chunks of His flesh here on earth!
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16


What about the people who cant take of the bread and wine, but believe? Do they still lose?
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Look man, your mad, you lost,, You said that transubstantiation is unbiblical and evil,, I have proved you wrong undeniable using The Word of God.. Now your spazzing out throwin verses at me,, its ok,,

ITs your turn now Mr Saved,, Show me a bible vrs where it says that when you say you accept Jesus as your Personal Saviour that your are Saved,, Supply me with a verse explaining this miraculous ceremony that you do where a soul is sealed in the book of life.. Let me save you the time and effort ,, its not there,, our ceremonies are biblical.. It seems yours is fabricated nonscense.

And, no.. No one is dammed for what they believe when it is through no fault of their own,, Many are raised in a faith and know nothing else, thats why there is purgatory to cover these things,, Remeber the only sin that cannot be forgiven is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit
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Op we are the temple of god.

St. Paul asked in 1 Corinthians: “Don’t you know that you are a temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?” and “Don’t you know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit which is in you, which you have from God?” In 2 Corinthians he comes right out and says it plainly: “We are a temple of the living God; even as God said, ‘I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.’”

The disciple John hints at this when he recounts in his gospel an event when Jesus was in the great temple in Jerusalem and was asked to show the people a sign. “Jesus answered them, ‘Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.’ The people at the temple said, ‘Forty-six years was this temple in building, and will you raise it up in three days?’ But he spoke of the temple of his body.”
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You said that transubstantiation is unbiblical and evil<<< Wrong person i never said that even tho its true >>>>





Acts 2:38 ESV / 27 helpful votes

And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.




Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV / 20 helpful votes

For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.




Acts 16:31 ESV / 20 helpful votes

And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”




James 2:24 ESV / 13 helpful votes

You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.




John 3:16 ESV / 12 helpful votes

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.




Romans 6:23 ESV / 9 helpful votes

For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.




Luke 13:3 ESV / 9 helpful votes

No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.




Mark 16:16 ESV / 9 helpful votes

Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.


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Hebrews 6:4-6 ESV / 8 helpful votes

For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt.




1 Corinthians 1:17 ESV / 8 helpful votes

For Christ did not send me to baptize but to preach the gospel, and not with words of eloquent wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.




Romans 10:9 ESV / 8 helpful votes

Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.


ANY MORE OP? THE LAST ONE SUMS IT UP PRETTY GOOD I WOULD SAY.
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You said that transubstantiation is unbiblical and evil<<< Wrong person i never said that even tho its true >>>>





Acts 2:38 ESV / 27 helpful votes

And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.




Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV / 20 helpful votes

For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.




Acts 16:31 ESV / 20 helpful votes

And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”

Those are wonderful one line verses.. It would seem the bible would only need to be one page long,, Every verse you linked referes to believing in that Jesus is God,, Believing in him means doing what he commands,,

The Eucharist is not symbolic. that was made clear when Jesus followers (you) left him for saying they must eat his flesh and drink his blood,, He let them leave and did not withdraw his statement,, then he turned to his apostles and said will you leave too,, its called reading comprehension

If all you need to do is believe,, please explain John 20 21-23 thanks..




James 2:24 ESV / 13 helpful votes

You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.




John 3:16 ESV / 12 helpful votes

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.




Romans 6:23 ESV / 9 helpful votes

For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.




Luke 13:3 ESV / 9 helpful votes

No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.




Mark 16:16 ESV / 9 helpful votes

Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.


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Hebrews 6:4-6 ESV / 8 helpful votes

For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt.




1 Corinthians 1:17 ESV / 8 helpful votes

For Christ did not send me to baptize but to preach the gospel, and not with words of eloquent wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.




Romans 10:9 ESV / 8 helpful votes

Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.


ANY MORE OP? THE LAST ONE SUMS IT UP PRETTY GOOD I WOULD SAY.
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Confused? you mad Bro?
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Confused? you mad Bro?
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The virgin Mary hasn't finished dictating answers to him...his hand is tired and he can't keep up with her words... LOL!!!
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no my whole post dominating your ignorace got lost,, gotta re doo grrrr .. patience is a virtue,, oh thats right you dont have to worry about virtues,, your saved..

Those one liners are very nice and true,, but to have Faith means that you participate in the Faith that Christ founded in the Form of His Church, You have no faith in Christ for you deny his Church..

The Eucharist is not symbolic. that was made clear when Jesus followers (you) left him for saying they must eat his flesh and drink his blood,, He let them leave and did not withdraw his statement,, then he turned to his apostles and said will you leave too,, its called reading comprehension..

Dont you know how you anger God when you take all the wisdom of scripture and pull out one liners with no comprehension to facilitate your laziness,, your lack of works,, You are not part of the One Body that St paul speaks of for you deny the Body and blood of our lord, you scandalize his Mother and protest his church
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16


What about the people who cant take of the bread and wine, but believe? Do they still lose?
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Look man, your mad, you lost,, You said that transubstantiation is unbiblical and evil,, I have proved you wrong undeniable using The Word of God.. Now your spazzing out throwin verses at me,, its ok,,

ITs your turn now Mr Saved,, Show me a bible vrs where it says that when you say you accept Jesus as your Personal Saviour that your are Saved,, Supply me with a verse explaining this miraculous ceremony that you do where a soul is sealed in the book of life.. Let me save you the time and effort ,, its not there,, our ceremonies are biblical.. It seems yours is fabricated nonscense.

And, no.. No one is dammed for what they believe when it is through no fault of their own,, Many are raised in a faith and know nothing else, thats why there is purgatory to cover these things,, Remeber the only sin that cannot be forgiven is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit
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OP the verse was above your text... it answered the question you asked me, but out of humor i went ahead and posted the bulk of verses.

No you wont be able to find this easily in your missalette, you will actually need to open your bible and read the WORD OF GOD, and not the catholic teachings.
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Confused? you mad Bro?
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no my whole post dominating your ignorace got lost,, gotta re doo grrrr .. patience is a virtue,, oh thats right you dont have to worry about virtues,, your saved..

Those one liners are very nice and true,, but to have Faith means that you participate in the Faith that Christ founded in the Form of His Church, You have no faith in Christ for you deny his Church..

The Eucharist is not symbolic. that was made clear when Jesus followers (you) left him for saying they must eat his flesh and drink his blood,, He let them leave and did not withdraw his statement,, then he turned to his apostles and said will you leave too,, its called reading comprehension..

Dont you know how you anger God when you take all the wisdom of scripture and pull out one liners with no comprehension to facilitate your laziness,, your lack of works,, You are not part of the One Body that St paul speaks of for you deny the Body and blood of our lord, you scandalize his Mother and protest his church
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The apostle Paul writes, “For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them” (Eph. 2:8-10).

Now your ignorance has lead you astray... You add to much Ccatholic doctrine to prove anything.

I know you like to refer to the Verse " PETER UPON THIS ROCK I BUILD MY CHURCH AND THE GATES OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT.

JESUS IS THE ROCK NOT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. Rome wanted nothing to do with Jesus but yet they are the one true church? SEE REV 17-18.Your stuck in the council of nicea.
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HERE I WILL POST IT FOR YOU.....

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17 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.

6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.



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18 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,

13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.

14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.

15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,

16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!

17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,

18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!

19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.

20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.

21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;

23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

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Confused? you mad Bro?
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no my whole post dominating your ignorace got lost,, gotta re doo grrrr .. patience is a virtue,, oh thats right you dont have to worry about virtues,, your saved..

Those one liners are very nice and true,, but to have Faith means that you participate in the Faith that Christ founded in the Form of His Church, You have no faith in Christ for you deny his Church..

The Eucharist is not symbolic. that was made clear when Jesus followers (you) left him for saying they must eat his flesh and drink his blood,, He let them leave and did not withdraw his statement,, then he turned to his apostles and said will you leave too,, its called reading comprehension..

Dont you know how you anger God when you take all the wisdom of scripture and pull out one liners with no comprehension to facilitate your laziness,, your lack of works,, You are not part of the One Body that St paul speaks of for you deny the Body and blood of our lord, you scandalize his Mother and protest his church
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It is called reading comprehension...of which you have very little.

What time frame does the flesh you claim to eat come from? You say you are eating the flesh of Jesus (at mass in communion). What time frame does it come from? (BTW - John 6:63 explains Jesus's words earlier in John 6. The people left because they thought Jesus was calling the people to cannibalism. Jesus was not calling them to cannibalism - HE WAS SPEAKING FIGURATIVELY - Jesus said, "the flesh counts for nothing") ...

But, I digress...What time frame does the flesh you claim to eat come from? Can you even answer such a simple question?
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no my whole post dominating your ignorace got lost,, gotta re doo grrrr .. patience is a virtue,, oh thats right you dont have to worry about virtues,, your saved..

Those one liners are very nice and true,, but to have Faith means that you participate in the Faith that Christ founded in the Form of His Church, You have no faith in Christ for you deny his Church..

The Eucharist is not symbolic. that was made clear when Jesus followers (you) left him for saying they must eat his flesh and drink his blood,, He let them leave and did not withdraw his statement,, then he turned to his apostles and said will you leave too,, its called reading comprehension..

Dont you know how you anger God when you take all the wisdom of scripture and pull out one liners with no comprehension to facilitate your laziness,, your lack of works,, You are not part of the One Body that St paul speaks of for you deny the Body and blood of our lord, you scandalize his Mother and protest his church
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The apostle Paul writes, “For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them” (Eph. 2:8-10).

Now your ignorance has lead you astray... You add to much Ccatholic doctrine to prove anything.

I know you like to refer to the Verse " PETER UPON THIS ROCK I BUILD MY CHURCH AND THE GATES OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT.

JESUS IS THE ROCK NOT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. Rome wanted nothing to do with Jesus but yet they are the one true church? SEE REV 17-18.Your stuck in the council of nicea.
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LOL there ya go again,, You are Peter the Rock and upon this rock I will build my church,,
Then you say Jesus is the Rock?? SERIOUSLY !! He just said Peter is the rock,, There was no bible for 300 years.. No printing presses until 1100 and the masses couldnt read until about 300 years ago,, Christ left us a church not a bible,,

A little more Mary For ya as Queen of HEaven ,, WORD OF GOD
Apocolypse 12:1 Notice the term Woman which I covered in detail and the Crown on her head in HEAVEN,,

And a great sign appeared in heaven: A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars: [Apocalypse (Revelation) 12:1] [Latin] [2] And being with child, she cried travailing in birth, and was in pain to be delivered. [3] And there was seen another sign in heaven: and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads, and ten horns: and on his head seven diadems: [4] And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to be delivered; that, when she should be delivered, he might devour her son. [5] And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with an iron rod: and her son was taken up to God, and to his throne.
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no my whole post dominating your ignorace got lost,, gotta re doo grrrr .. patience is a virtue,, oh thats right you dont have to worry about virtues,, your saved..

Those one liners are very nice and true,, but to have Faith means that you participate in the Faith that Christ founded in the Form of His Church, You have no faith in Christ for you deny his Church..

The Eucharist is not symbolic. that was made clear when Jesus followers (you) left him for saying they must eat his flesh and drink his blood,, He let them leave and did not withdraw his statement,, then he turned to his apostles and said will you leave too,, its called reading comprehension..

Dont you know how you anger God when you take all the wisdom of scripture and pull out one liners with no comprehension to facilitate your laziness,, your lack of works,, You are not part of the One Body that St paul speaks of for you deny the Body and blood of our lord, you scandalize his Mother and protest his church
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The apostle Paul writes, “For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them” (Eph. 2:8-10).

Now your ignorance has lead you astray... You add to much Ccatholic doctrine to prove anything.

I know you like to refer to the Verse " PETER UPON THIS ROCK I BUILD MY CHURCH AND THE GATES OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT.

JESUS IS THE ROCK NOT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. Rome wanted nothing to do with Jesus but yet they are the one true church? SEE REV 17-18.Your stuck in the council of nicea.
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LOL there ya go again,, You are Peter the Rock and upon this rock I will build my church,,
Then you say Jesus is the Rock?? SERIOUSLY !! He just said Peter is the rock,, There was no bible for 300 years.. No printing presses until 1100 and the masses couldnt read until about 300 years ago,, Christ left us a church not a bible,,

A little more Mary For ya as Queen of HEaven ,, WORD OF GOD
Apocolypse 12:1 Notice the term Woman which I covered in detail and the Crown on her head in HEAVEN,,

And a great sign appeared in heaven: A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars: [Apocalypse (Revelation) 12:1] [Latin] [2] And being with child, she cried travailing in birth, and was in pain to be delivered. [3] And there was seen another sign in heaven: and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads, and ten horns: and on his head seven diadems: [4] And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to be delivered; that, when she should be delivered, he might devour her son. [5] And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with an iron rod: and her son was taken up to God, and to his throne.
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I guess thats not Mary but just some chick on the scene
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Mary was blessed of God, but Mary is not the Queen of heaven or anything else like that, she gave birth to Jesus because that's what had to happen for Jesus to be born a human on earth, you Catholics misunderstand and worship Mary instead of worshipping God, build idols and statues to Mary thinking she was super human, she was only the vessel God used, she is not a goddess or anything like that.

It's like when people would want to worship the angels in the bible, they would say no, don't worship us, worship God who created us. Apply this logic to this situation.

You need to understand who runs the Vatican and who the Jesuits are, why the Jewish people prefer the catholic religion but dislike protestants so much (it is because jewish people detest jesus, and see the catholic church for what it is, Mary worship and not christian at all. this is why all these Zionist and Jewish people get on together so well. You should know your agendas, and also look up the lesser key and the greater key and realise why there is so much paedophilia going on in the Catholic church, there is a reason for it, why those officials in the church hide it and scandals continue to happen.)

But you already know that.
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Well anyone knows that we call unto Mary as Blessed by the command of God in the word of God to interceed for us on our behalf with almighty God.. Nothing stresses this more than the wedding of Cana where Mary interceded on the hosts behalf with her Son. Do whatever he tells you where her words that echo down the centuries.. Mary is the Mother of God as Elizabeth stated in the Gospel of Luke. [42] And she cried out with a loud voice, and said: Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb. [43] And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? Word of God..
Catholics do not build idols and pray to them.. If you have a picture of your child on your desk at work and you pick it up and kiss the picture, are you expressing love for the picture or love for your child,,, dont be dumb.. NEXT
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Matthew 12
46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.

47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.

48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?

49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
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Dude your dumb re read it, i clearly said PETER UPON THIS ROCK I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH, Dweeb i never said peter was the rock, yall think that this gave way for the catholic church and made peter the first pope. See peter taught to the JEWS, Paul taught to the Gentiles, you know me and you.

Correction Peter was still teaching the law of the Jews, and he was also preaching to the jews, when jesus came to save all so the message was taught more by paul

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In reguards to Matthew 12..Who is my mother?: This was not spoken by way of slighting his mother, but to show that we are never to allow ourselves to be taken from the service of God, by any inordinate affection to our earthly parents: and that which our Lord chiefly regarded in his mother, was her doing the will of his Father in heaven. Out of context .. Protestants are like handing a kid a physics text book and having them read it,, When they get done reading it they still dont know physics ,, thats why you need a teacher,, not your own interpretation
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Dude your dumb re read it, i clearly said PETER UPON THIS ROCK I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH, Dweeb i never said peter was the rock, yall think that this gave way for the catholic church and made peter the first pope. See peter taught to the JEWS, Paul taught to the Gentiles, you know me and you.

Correction Peter was still teaching the law of the Jews, and he was also preaching to the jews, when jesus came to save all so the message was taught more by paul
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Dude you said in all caps JESUS WAS THE ROCK lol cmon man
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In reguards to Matthew 12..Who is my mother?: This was not spoken by way of slighting his mother, but to show that we are never to allow ourselves to be taken from the service of God, by any inordinate affection to our earthly parents: and that which our Lord chiefly regarded in his mother, was her doing the will of his Father in heaven. Out of context .. Protestants are like handing a kid a physics text book and having them read it,, When they get done reading it they still dont know physics ,, thats why you need a teacher,, not your own interpretation
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your so lost its not even funny anymore, you put your faith in man to much. Humans fail all the time. Why do you think God tells us to read the word ourselves, to consume it? Of coarse we ask people what they think it means, does that make them right? No. sometimes yes, but you have to read and study your self.
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OP, what time frame do you say that the flesh in the communion wafer comes from? Is it from Jesus on earth, on the cross...in the tomb...when he was resurrected? When?
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Mary was blessed of God, but Mary is not the Queen of heaven or anything else like that, she gave birth to Jesus because that's what had to happen for Jesus to be born a human on earth, you Catholics misunderstand and worship Mary instead of worshipping God, build idols and statues to Mary thinking she was super human, she was only the vessel God used, she is not a goddess or anything like that.

It's like when people would want to worship the angels in the bible, they would say no, don't worship us, worship God who created us. Apply this logic to this situation.

You need to understand who runs the Vatican and who the Jesuits are, why the Jewish people prefer the catholic religion but dislike protestants so much (it is because jewish people detest jesus, and see the catholic church for what it is, Mary worship and not christian at all. this is why all these Zionist and Jewish people get on together so well. You should know your agendas, and also look up the lesser key and the greater key and realise why there is so much paedophilia going on in the Catholic church, there is a reason for it, why those officials in the church hide it and scandals continue to happen.)

But you already know that.
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Well anyone knows that we call unto Mary as Blessed by the command of God in the word of God to interceed for us on our behalf with almighty God.. Nothing stresses this more than the wedding of Cana where Mary interceded on the hosts behalf with her Son. Do whatever he tells you where her words that echo down the centuries.. Mary is the Mother of God as Elizabeth stated in the Gospel of Luke. [42] And she cried out with a loud voice, and said: Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb. [43] And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? Word of God..
Catholics do not build idols and pray to them.. If you have a picture of your child on your desk at work and you pick it up and kiss the picture, are you expressing love for the picture or love for your child,,, dont be dumb.. NEXT
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Let me ask you questions reguarding your salvation.. Who would suffer more.. You hanging from a cross or your Mother standing there watching?. Mary voluntarily accepted this anguish and you should be very very very careful about insulting the Mother Of God.. The Queen of Heaven,, Your Mother.. John behold your Mother,,, Mother behold your Son. Mary is the one spoken of in Genesis "The Woman" who will crush the head of the devil, Jesus referred to her with this title at the wedding of Cana, his first miracle, and from the Cross,, that is her Title from the beginning of time.. Word of God
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Did Mary have all the sins of the World placed upon her as the Paschal Sacrifice? Did she have the wrath of God poured upon her as the just punishment for these sins against the Holy One of Israel? Was it her who uttered the triumphant cry "It is Finished!" as the rift between man and God was filled and the path to Heaven opened?
Mary was blessed because she bore the Mashiach, the bodily incarnation of the Living God. Mary herself would be horrified at the title "Queen of Heaven", she would flee from you as you uttered such a blasphemy. for remember:

16 As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the LORD, we will not hearken unto thee.
17 But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil.
18 But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine.
19 And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven, and poured out drink offerings unto her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink offerings unto her, without our men?
20 Then Jeremiah said unto all the people, to the men, and to the women, and to all the people which had given him that answer, saying,
21 The incense that ye burned in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem, ye, and your fathers, your kings, and your princes, and the people of the land, did not the LORD remember them, and came it not into his mind?
22 So that the LORD could no longer bear, because of the evil of your doings, and because of the abominations which ye have committed; therefore is your land a desolation, and an astonishment, and a curse, without an inhabitant, as at this day.
23 Because ye have burned incense, and because ye have sinned against the LORD, and have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, nor walked in his law, nor in his statutes, nor in his testimonies; therefore this evil is happened unto you, as at this day.

Jeremiah 44
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and yeah im still stuck in the Catholic Council of Nicea which gave us the Bible,, Our bible not yours to do with as you will
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Mary was blessed of God, but Mary is not the Queen of heaven or anything else like that, she gave birth to Jesus because that's what had to happen for Jesus to be born a human on earth, you Catholics misunderstand and worship Mary instead of worshipping God, build idols and statues to Mary thinking she was super human, she was only the vessel God used, she is not a goddess or anything like that.

It's like when people would want to worship the angels in the bible, they would say no, don't worship us, worship God who created us. Apply this logic to this situation.

You need to understand who runs the Vatican and who the Jesuits are, why the Jewish people prefer the catholic religion but dislike protestants so much (it is because jewish people detest jesus, and see the catholic church for what it is, Mary worship and not christian at all. this is why all these Zionist and Jewish people get on together so well. You should know your agendas, and also look up the lesser key and the greater key and realise why there is so much paedophilia going on in the Catholic church, there is a reason for it, why those officials in the church hide it and scandals continue to happen.)

But you already know that.
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Well anyone knows that we call unto Mary as Blessed by the command of God in the word of God to interceed for us on our behalf with almighty God.. Nothing stresses this more than the wedding of Cana where Mary interceded on the hosts behalf with her Son. Do whatever he tells you where her words that echo down the centuries.. Mary is the Mother of God as Elizabeth stated in the Gospel of Luke. [42] And she cried out with a loud voice, and said: Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb. [43] And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? Word of God..
Catholics do not build idols and pray to them.. If you have a picture of your child on your desk at work and you pick it up and kiss the picture, are you expressing love for the picture or love for your child,,, dont be dumb.. NEXT
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Let me ask you questions reguarding your salvation.. Who would suffer more.. You hanging from a cross or your Mother standing there watching?. Mary voluntarily accepted this anguish and you should be very very very careful about insulting the Mother Of God.. The Queen of Heaven,, Your Mother.. John behold your Mother,,, Mother behold your Son. Mary is the one spoken of in Genesis "The Woman" who will crush the head of the devil, Jesus referred to her with this title at the wedding of Cana, his first miracle, and from the Cross,, that is her Title from the beginning of time.. Word of God
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Did Mary have all the sins of the World placed upon her as the Paschal Sacrifice? Did she have the wrath of God poured upon her as the just punishment for these sins against the Holy One of Israel? Was it her who uttered the triumphant cry "It is Finished!" as the rift between man and God was filled and the path to Heaven opened?
Mary was blessed because she bore the Mashiach, the bodily incarnation of the Living God. Mary herself would be horrified at the title "Queen of Heaven", she would flee from you as you uttered such a blasphemy. for remember:

16 As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the LORD, we will not hearken unto thee.
17 But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil.
18 But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine.
19 And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven, and poured out drink offerings unto her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink offerings unto her, without our men?
20 Then Jeremiah said unto all the people, to the men, and to the women, and to all the people which had given him that answer, saying,
21 The incense that ye burned in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem, ye, and your fathers, your kings, and your princes, and the people of the land, did not the LORD remember them, and came it not into his mind?
22 So that the LORD could no longer bear, because of the evil of your doings, and because of the abominations which ye have committed; therefore is your land a desolation, and an astonishment, and a curse, without an inhabitant, as at this day.
23 Because ye have burned incense, and because ye have sinned against the LORD, and have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, nor walked in his law, nor in his statutes, nor in his testimonies; therefore this evil is happened unto you, as at this day.

Jeremiah 44
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And a great sign appeared in heaven: A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars: [Apocalypse (Revelation) 12:1] [Latin] [2] And being with child, she cried travailing in birth, and was in pain to be delivered. [3] And there was seen another sign in heaven: and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads, and ten horns: and on his head seven diadems: [4] And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to be delivered; that, when she should be delivered, he might devour her son. [5] And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with an iron rod: and her son was taken up to God, and to his throne WORD OF GOD ... MARY QUEEN OF HEAVEN.. you lost

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