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Newtown Town Clerk Seeks to Block Access To Sandy Hook Death Certificates

 
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If you believe that nobody died in Newtown, why should ask for a dead certificate?

By the way... before you jump from your chair screaming at... just to let you know... Connecticut Law (2011) prohibits any release of Police Reports when minors are involved in the case.

Yap... also parents are not aloud to get a police report of their children.

LOL LOL LOL


Good luck!!
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From the Newtown Bee:

"As a result, Ms Aurelia began working with Representatives Dan Carter and Mitch Bolinsky and the leadership of the state association of town clerks to craft a bill that would provide the press and public with limited directory information from death and marriage records, but would withhold the actual death and marriage certificates from review except by legally entitled immediate family members or their representatives.

... Ms Weimann remembered one of the first calls she received requesting access to victims’ records.

“This one caller said, ‘I want to know how they died.’ And he knew he could request that information under the current law,” Ms Weimann said. “But I feel it’s my responsibility to protect these victims. They’ve been through enough
.”"

[link to newtownbee.com]
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beale
rhombus will set you free...

some try to tell me thoughts they cannot defend. just what you want to be, you will be in the end!

if you can't face the truth it's probably raping you from behind.
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If you believe that nobody died in Newtown, why should ask for a dead certificate?

By the way... before you jump from your chair screaming at... just to let you know... Connecticut Law (2011) prohibits any release of Police Reports when minors are involved in the case.

Yap... also parents are not aloud to get a police report of their children.

LOL LOL LOL


Good luck!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7901784


You cite a law relating to police reports.

The issue raised here is the release of death certificates.

Happy to see your devotion to the concepts of openness and transparancy in our society.
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From the Newtown Bee:

"As a result, Ms Aurelia began working with Representatives Dan Carter and Mitch Bolinsky and the leadership of the state association of town clerks to craft a bill that would provide the press and public with limited directory information from death and marriage records, but would withhold the actual death and marriage certificates from review except by legally entitled immediate family members or their representatives.

... Ms Weimann remembered one of the first calls she received requesting access to victims’ records.

“This one caller said, ‘I want to know how they died.’ And he knew he could request that information under the current law,” Ms Weimann said. “But I feel it’s my responsibility to protect these victims. They’ve been through enough
.”"

[link to newtownbee.com]
 Quoting: Gladio


What are they trying to hide?
 Quoting: Gladio


The fact that nobody died and the whole thing was a fucking hoax to take away our rights.bump
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I heard on local news (I live in Fairfield county) that there was supposed to be a hearing on it this afternoon, anyone look into it?
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If you live in Fairfield County, is there a local attorney who would be willing to file an injunction?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34941018


I grew up in Pound Ridge, a portion of NY that sticks into Fairfield County between Ridgefield and New Canaan, only about 20 miles from Sandy Hook. You might use local on-line media to try to connect with an attorney who would work pro bono on this. They must be out there.

Death certificates are not 'police reports'. They are public record. They are trying to keep autopsies of murdered kids secret. This is also wrong.
As you get physically closer to the scene two things happen. First you sense a far greater increase in the fear. This was a GIANT cover up. But they there are those few who will stand up. They are there too.

Best of luck.
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If you believe that nobody died in Newtown, why should ask for a dead certificate?

By the way... before you jump from your chair screaming at... just to let you know... Connecticut Law (2011) prohibits any release of Police Reports when minors are involved in the case.

Yap... also parents are not aloud to get a police report of their children.

LOL LOL LOL


Good luck!!
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judging from your other threads and replies, it's clear what your purpose is here
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If you believe that nobody died in Newtown, why should ask for a dead certificate?

By the way... before you jump from your chair screaming at... just to let you know... Connecticut Law (2011) prohibits any release of Police Reports when minors are involved in the case.

Yap... also parents are not aloud to get a police report of their children.

LOL LOL LOL


Good luck!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7901784


judging from your other threads and replies, it's clear what your purpose is here
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And what is my purpose in here?

pope
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'Gladio' literally means 'sword'.

'Gladio' is also the name given to the cold war stay behind Allied force in Italy. One of these days I'll do a thread on that, and explain why I took the handle 'Gladio'.
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Created in 1948, are clandestine cells to act as resistance movements, conducting sabotage, guerrilla warfare and assassinations.

… One of these days I'll do a thread on that…”.

Good!

At least, somebody will start to understand that there are no needs for actors.

Actors belong to Hollywood.


pope
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There definitely is the appearance that something is wrong here and that they have something to hide.

I do not buy in to the suggestion that this incident was faked but there may be something in those birth certificates that may identify something they do not want us to know.

If the whole event was a fake why wouldn't they fake a death certificate ? It is only a matter of printing a piece of paper right?

I would like to know who pronounced Adam dead on the 13th and the relevant facts for his death certificate.

There may be questionable circumstances about a few of the other victims but overall this incident really happened.

That is not to say that some crisis actors may have been inserted and other false circumstances were reported. However the most important issues are holding those responsible accountable.

If Emily Parker's picture is proven to be photo shopped all that proves is that her picture was photo shopped and nothing more. If Laura Phelps is really some woman named Sexton than so what ? OK somebody named Sexton/Greenberg is pretending to be a grieving neighbor.

If however there is no Death Certificates for Emily or Allison Wyatt that may be additional validity to impropriety. Since there were photshopped or faked pictures attributed to both of those victims that is whom I would focus on first to validate.

Just my humble opinion
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Amazing people think they can work outside of the law, if they have been brainwashed to think they know what's best for other people.
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Its the progressive way.
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Check this out from the Newtown Bee:

"We want families to know [specific facts from the investigation] first, if they want to know, before they start seeing it in the news," Lt Vance said, adding that such reports often fuel the "insane and hideous" allegations that the events of 12/14 are part of a conspiracy or cover-up.

"I saw those 20 babies," he said referring to the child victims, "there's no cover-up here
."

[link to newtownbee.com]

Thanks, Lt. Vance. You saw the 20 "babies", so therefore, no cover-up.

Did it ever occur to this arrogant buffoon that the public might want more in the way of evidence than just HIS WORD about what happened?

They go too far out of their way to denounce the "conspiracy theorists", and, in doing so, they show their hand.

As Hamlet said, " The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
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"But I feel it’s my responsibility to protect these victims. They’ve been through enough.”

They're dead, you idiot.
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Amazing people think they can work outside of the law, if they have been brainwashed to think they know what's best for other people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34305375


Even more amazing.. no one will go down to the cemetery and check to see the new graves.. I'm saying I don't think they are there.. A hoax is a hoax.. but digging fresh graves and faking funerals.. is where it would stop....
 Quoting: Butt Pincher


this has something that has always perplexed me about this case too....

outta the thousands of glp'rs around here, not 1 lives in the vicinity or has taken a drive down to the cemetary to investigate?

though i will say, if 'they' have gone to these lengths to stage this- what's diggin a few graves right?!
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Death certificates are managed by the state. Not a local clerk.

State law says ANYONE can request a death certificate. If you are not a family member with need to identify information such as social security number you get a slightly redacted one.
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From the Newtown Bee:

"As a result, Ms Aurelia began working with Representatives Dan Carter and Mitch Bolinsky and the leadership of the state association of town clerks to craft a bill that would provide the press and public with limited directory information from death and marriage records, but would withhold the actual death and marriage certificates from review except by legally entitled immediate family members or their representatives.

... Ms Weimann remembered one of the first calls she received requesting access to victims’ records.

“This one caller said, ‘I want to know how they died.’ And he knew he could request that information under the current law,” Ms Weimann said. “But I feel it’s my responsibility to protect these victims. They’ve been through enough
.”"

[link to newtownbee.com]
 Quoting: Gladio


What are they trying to hide?
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The cause of death and/or the lack thereof.
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no death certificates - no deaths. got it now? good.
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Death certificates are managed by the state. Not a local clerk.
State law says ANYONE can request a death certificate. If you are not a family member with need to identify information such as social security number you get a slightly redacted one.
 Quoting: Redcat1


From another Bee article:

"Current law allows any adult the ability to purchase a copy of the death certificate of any resident from their municipality's town clerk."

From the same article:

"It is my strong belief and fear that the disclosure of certain information would lead to identity theft and harassment of family members, not to mention the inevitable constant visitation of strangers to the gravesites, regardless of reason," Ms Weimann said in testimony."
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Death certificates are managed by the state. Not a local clerk.
State law says ANYONE can request a death certificate. If you are not a family member with need to identify information such as social security number you get a slightly redacted one.
 Quoting: Redcat1


From another Bee article:

"Current law allows any adult the ability to purchase a copy of the death certificate of any resident from their municipality's town clerk."

From the same article:

"It is my strong belief and fear that the disclosure of certain information would lead to identity theft and harassment of family members, not to mention the inevitable constant visitation of strangers to the gravesites, regardless of reason," Ms Weimann said in testimony."
 Quoting: Gladio


I will not put to much time searching Dead Certificate. They are not so important as Police Reports.

(And forget about getting Police Reports from Connecticut when a minor is involved in the report)

pope
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Amazing people think they can work outside of the law, if they have been brainwashed to think they know what's best for other people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34305375


Even more amazing.. no one will go down to the cemetery and check to see the new graves.. I'm saying I don't think they are there.. A hoax is a hoax.. but digging fresh graves and faking funerals.. is where it would stop....
 Quoting: Butt Pincher


this has something that has always perplexed me about this case too....

outta the thousands of glp'rs around here, not 1 lives in the vicinity or has taken a drive down to the cemetary to investigate?

though i will say, if 'they' have gone to these lengths to stage this- what's diggin a few graves right?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32278252


I live in Bethel, one town over, about 6-7 miles from Sandy Hook. There are quite a few cemeteries around here. If you can find out where any of the victims are buried, I'd be willing to look for you.
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Death certificates are managed by the state. Not a local clerk.
State law says ANYONE can request a death certificate. If you are not a family member with need to identify information such as social security number you get a slightly redacted one.
 Quoting: Redcat1


From another Bee article:

"Current law allows any adult the ability to purchase a copy of the death certificate of any resident from their municipality's town clerk."

From the same article:

"It is my strong belief and fear that the disclosure of certain information would lead to identity theft and harassment of family members, not to mention the inevitable constant visitation of strangers to the gravesites, regardless of reason," Ms Weimann said in testimony."
 Quoting: Gladio


I will not put to much time searching Dead Certificate. They are not so important as Police Reports.

(And forget about getting Police Reports from Connecticut when a minor is involved in the report)

pope
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that's a provision of a law "magnificent thing" faggit carver lobbied for just before the hoax event, right shill? and yea we know, pig, how important police reports are to shilling pigs and for pig hoaxes to be successful. would you suck my dick
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Amazing people think they can work outside of the law, if they have been brainwashed to think they know what's best for other people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34305375


Even more amazing.. no one will go down to the cemetery and check to see the new graves.. I'm saying I don't think they are there.. A hoax is a hoax.. but digging fresh graves and faking funerals.. is where it would stop....
 Quoting: Butt Pincher


this has something that has always perplexed me about this case too....

outta the thousands of glp'rs around here, not 1 lives in the vicinity or has taken a drive down to the cemetary to investigate?

though i will say, if 'they' have gone to these lengths to stage this- what's diggin a few graves right?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32278252


I live in Bethel, one town over, about 6-7 miles from Sandy Hook. There are quite a few cemeteries around here. If you can find out where any of the victims are buried, I'd be willing to look for you.
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I will def try and find out, but- i truly think the best bet would be, if you live in the area and its not too far of a drive, why not take a little day trip around to all the cemetaries and do the math- i mean its gonna be obvious in winter which are fresh graves, and those that are children, they'll likely be marked too right? so between how ever many cemetaries in the area, you'd think the majority of the kids would be easy to find....its a stretch yes, but not unreachable.
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Even more amazing.. no one will go down to the cemetery and check to see the new graves.. I'm saying I don't think they are there.. A hoax is a hoax.. but digging fresh graves and faking funerals.. is where it would stop....
 Quoting: Butt Pincher


this has something that has always perplexed me about this case too....

outta the thousands of glp'rs around here, not 1 lives in the vicinity or has taken a drive down to the cemetary to investigate?

though i will say, if 'they' have gone to these lengths to stage this- what's diggin a few graves right?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32278252


I live in Bethel, one town over, about 6-7 miles from Sandy Hook. There are quite a few cemeteries around here. If you can find out where any of the victims are buried, I'd be willing to look for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34687266


I will def try and find out, but- i truly think the best bet would be, if you live in the area and its not too far of a drive, why not take a little day trip around to all the cemetaries and do the math- i mean its gonna be obvious in winter which are fresh graves, and those that are children, they'll likely be marked too right? so between how ever many cemetaries in the area, you'd think the majority of the kids would be easy to find....its a stretch yes, but not unreachable.
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There's two feet of snow on the ground right now.

The point is, the Newtown town clerk as well as other elected officals are taking steps to restrict access to death certificates. That's not a conspiracy theory; it's their stated aim.
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I heard on local news (I live in Fairfield county) that there was supposed to be a hearing on it this afternoon, anyone look into it?
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If you live in Fairfield County, is there a local attorney who would be willing to file an injunction?
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I grew up in Pound Ridge, a portion of NY that sticks into Fairfield County between Ridgefield and New Canaan, only about 20 miles from Sandy Hook. You might use local on-line media to try to connect with an attorney who would work pro bono on this. They must be out there.

Death certificates are not 'police reports'. They are public record. They are trying to keep autopsies of murdered kids secret. This is also wrong.
As you get physically closer to the scene two things happen. First you sense a far greater increase in the fear. This was a GIANT cover up. But they there are those few who will stand up. They are there too.

Best of luck.
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With all the tards harassing people, they have every excuse now. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED LOSERS
Thread: What has all your Sandy Hook conspiracy trash talk accomplished?
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Death certificates are managed by the state. Not a local clerk.
State law says ANYONE can request a death certificate. If you are not a family member with need to identify information such as social security number you get a slightly redacted one.
 Quoting: Redcat1


From another Bee article:

"Current law allows any adult the ability to purchase a copy of the death certificate of any resident from their municipality's town clerk."

From the same article:

"It is my strong belief and fear that the disclosure of certain information would lead to identity theft and harassment of family members, not to mention the inevitable constant visitation of strangers to the gravesites, regardless of reason," Ms Weimann said in testimony."
 Quoting: Gladio


Maybe you can get it from ether source....


[link to www.ct.gov]

See here...

[link to www.ct.gov]


Application For Copy of Death Certificate

From the Town/City of Death
From The State Vital Records Office


But if the Town won't do it it appears the state should be able to fulfill the request.
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Every property in the area shows up with a 12/25/2009 sale date. It is not just a few.

Not sure why.


Anyone notice there was a Masonic Lodge next to the school?

MBL : 39-4-6 Zone : SHDD
Owner : MASONIC TEMPLE CORP OF NEWTOWN
Acres : 0.15 Year Built : 1904
Fire District : Sandy Hook
School District : SANDY HOOK
Building Style : Commercial
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Sandy Hook is one giant rotting fish. All those deceivers deserve each other.
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I haven't been posting at GLP since before the Newtown event, but surely there were threads here about the Newtown area connections with Satanism?

So, I assume there very well were some real deaths that served as sacrifices in this black ritual.

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Some articles by Henry Makow. Somewhat of a far right conservative boob, but worth reading.


"Newtown has Reputation as Satanist Hub"

[link to henrymakow.com]


This is all old, but presumably you've seen the photo, in the link above, of dead teacher Victoria Soto, with the old guy in the background at some family event flashing the Baphomet horns?

...And further down the page, little Emilie Parker, also throwing the same devil horn (or what some call "Illuminati hand sign")? And no--she's not saying "I Love You" in sign language.

The townspeople had a very unusual response to a survey about Satanism being existent in the area. What normal person would consider that there is any Satanic activity in their town?

YES, satanic activity is real. Dark sex rituals and human sacrifice and all. Large communities of people are essentially involved to the point of maintaining split personalities, hiding in broad daylight these other warped sides of themselves. Involvement is carried on to each generation.

I believe the Parkers were involved in Satanism. Robbie Parker's weird demeanor in his interview about his daughther Emilie is a case in point.

The "Stepford Wife" demeanor of so many participants in this weird town is suggestive of programming.
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I knew it i knew it. This would happen. They cant cover this fast enough. Soon govt will say they cant rekease death certs for security reasons
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I disagree in which 'they' want this failed psy op out in the open so people get mad and threaten violence, so then they can declare civil war...


...problem is the public have been dumbed down and mindwashed so well they don't get it...


...but awake people such as yourself and me know not to get violent .... but we can tell others about it.

I wonder who would be able to interview that Vance chap (the head honcho cop in the whole thing) ... that guy is the key, and don't be surprised if he ends up falling over a banana peel and a light cargo plane falls from the sky at the exact same moment, all accidental of course :P

To the fuckers that did Shady Off The Hook - suck a duck and get fucked!

...oh and you guys will understand karma either in this life or the next - that i know for sure, so have fun with your bullshit while you still can.

:)
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Well said, cobber!

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Trying to hide their lies of course.
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