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Calculating the Position and Orientation of the Moon Part 2: Astrometric Validation

 
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Calculating the Position and Orientation of the Moon Part 2: Astrometric Validation
Previously I introduced this spreadsheet for calculating the position and orientation of the moon based on tables published 22 years ago ("Lunar tables and programs from 4000 B.C. to A.D. 8000" by Michelle Chapront-Touzé and Jean Chapront):


I've now updated the spreadsheet to include precession to J2000.0 coordinates, which is the standard most programs and telescopes use. I've also verified the spreadsheet's calculations against fresh astrometric data. The result? The moon is still right where it should be.


Version 2 of the spreadsheet with precession to J2000.0 included:
[link to dropcanvas.com]

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Awesome.... Thanks Astro
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Awesome.... Thanks Astro
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The moon has a path that is visible from the surface of Earth.

No telling how far out it is, nor how large it is.

The problem is, the scale of what I find on the surface doesn't MATCH the distances and dimensions that are given.

But the path, as seen from the surface is a stable constant, so stable in fact, that it can be imitated, matched or overwritten.

What is unfortunate is that Deceit rules Science.

Why? So scientists can renew their grants, which are dominated by political correctness in this NOT-SEE Fascist system.
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The moon has a path that is visible from the surface of Earth.

No telling how far out it is, nor how large it is.

The problem is, the scale of what I find on the surface doesn't MATCH the distances and dimensions that are given.

But the path, as seen from the surface is a stable constant, so stable in fact, that it can be imitated, matched or overwritten.

What is unfortunate is that Deceit rules Science.

Why? So scientists can renew their grants, which are dominated by political correctness in this NOT-SEE Fascist system.
 Quoting: PIN!occhia 230567


Like I said to you before, go to a ham radio club that does eme bouncing. You can see for yourself how far away the moon is. I have.
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who in their right mind pins this useless crap...what a pile of horse shit lol



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who in their right mind pins this useless crap...what a pile of horse shit lol



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:FlipperYeah:
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who in their right mind pins this useless crap...what a pile of horse shit lol



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Hardly. It's not horse shit, it's real and it works. You can test it out for yourself.
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its the facts people... that is why the ancient computer that was found that has been recreated absolutely accurately could predict our eclipses now over 3000 years ago..
this was always a silly argument... yes the moon looks funny and different at times...
The hard facts say its exactly where it should be...
barking up the wrong tree doomers and zetatards...
so much amazing stuff going on up there.... why stick on something so feeble and utterly wrong.
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Previously I introduced this spreadsheet for calculating the position and orientation of the moon based on tables published 22 years ago ("Lunar tables and programs from 4000 B.C. to A.D. 8000" by Michelle Chapront-Touzé and Jean Chapront):


I've now updated the spreadsheet to include precession to J2000.0 coordinates, which is the standard most programs and telescopes use. I've also verified the spreadsheet's calculations against fresh astrometric data. The result? The moon is still right where it should be.


Version 2 of the spreadsheet with precession to J2000.0 included:
[link to dropcanvas.com]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


colorbump - 5 stars Smiley
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Previously I introduced this spreadsheet for calculating the position and orientation of the moon based on tables published 22 years ago ("Lunar tables and programs from 4000 B.C. to A.D. 8000" by Michelle Chapront-Touzé and Jean Chapront):


I've now updated the spreadsheet to include precession to J2000.0 coordinates, which is the standard most programs and telescopes use. I've also verified the spreadsheet's calculations against fresh astrometric data. The result? The moon is still right where it should be.


Version 2 of the spreadsheet with precession to J2000.0 included:
[link to dropcanvas.com]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


But is the earth right where IT should be?
The problem is not the problem, the problem is your attitude about the problem.
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Thanks Astro......I haven't tried it yet but looks great. I'M getting the tracking upgrade for my 8" skyview pro scope(can't wait) next week,hopefully just in time for Panstarss if I can see it from here.
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Previously I introduced this spreadsheet for calculating the position and orientation of the moon based on tables published 22 years ago ("Lunar tables and programs from 4000 B.C. to A.D. 8000" by Michelle Chapront-Touzé and Jean Chapront):


I've now updated the spreadsheet to include precession to J2000.0 coordinates, which is the standard most programs and telescopes use. I've also verified the spreadsheet's calculations against fresh astrometric data. The result? The moon is still right where it should be.


Version 2 of the spreadsheet with precession to J2000.0 included:
[link to dropcanvas.com]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


But is the earth right where IT should be?
 Quoting: Lilbabez33


Yes; the moon's coordinates as calculated by the tables are dependent on a wide variety of factors including the heliocentric mean longitudes of the planets, including earth, and is heavily dependent on the secular (non-periodic) part of the difference between the mean longitude of the moon and the mean longitude of the sun relative to the center of the earth.

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who in their right mind pins this useless crap...what a pile of horse shit lol



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+1
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Thanks Astro......I haven't tried it yet but looks great. I'M getting the tracking upgrade for my 8" skyview pro scope(can't wait) next week,hopefully just in time for Panstarss if I can see it from here.
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Sounds like you should be in good shape!
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+1
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You accused me of plagiarism in the last thread I made about this. I'm just wondering, how is it that you think this is plagiarism?
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Dr. Astro, can you please explain your thoughts/theories on what is going on with all the earth changes, what is causing it?
The problem is not the problem, the problem is your attitude about the problem.
----------------------------------------------------​----------------------
"May future generations look back on our work and say that these were men and women who, in a moment of great crisis, stood up to their politicians, the opinion-makers, and the establishment, and saved their country." - Dr. Ron Paul
........................................................​..................
Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank.
Give a man a bank and he can rob the world
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.................​....................
"And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand it's meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment." -JFK
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You can't start the next chapter of your life if you keep re-reading the last one.
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Your hearing it straight from me. I made this video and I did the math for it. You are stealing my work and calling it your own.

I can prove this is me in GLP Voice Chat.

I am messierhunter.

I am NGCHunter.

I am Mr.Hunter.




OP reserves the right to remove and ban me from his thread. If he deletes this message it's because he was caught red handed.


PS. I sent this forum ID to over 1,500 people. I hope they see it before you delete my comment.
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Your hearing it straight from me. I made this video and I did the math for it. You are stealing my work and calling it your own.

I can prove this is me in GLP Voice Chat.

I am messierhunter.

I am NGCHunter.

I am Mr.Hunter.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13871590

Oh really? Because that's me. Not you. And yes, I can prove it indeed. That's my voice on the videos, and they know my voice in voice chat. Come on in, I'm already in there.
OP reserves the right to remove and ban me from his thread. If he deletes this message it's because he was caught red handed.
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I do reserve that right, and if I decide to delete it, it's because I'm tired of the stalker troll pretending to be me.

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Thanks.

I think the people haggling you only want confirmation that it is indeed you.
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Your hearing it straight from me. I made this video and I did the math for it. You are stealing my work and calling it your own.

I can prove this is me in GLP Voice Chat.

I am messierhunter.

I am NGCHunter.

I am Mr.Hunter.




OP reserves the right to remove and ban me from his thread. If he deletes this message it's because he was caught red handed.


PS. I sent this forum ID to over 1,500 people. I hope they see it before you delete my comment.
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BTW. Good work!

For dumb people tho, like me. I suggest you buy yourself a Orrery to avoid a bit of math.
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Your hearing it straight from me. I made this video and I did the math for it. You are stealing my work and calling it your own.

I can prove this is me in GLP Voice Chat.

I am messierhunter.

I am NGCHunter.

I am Mr.Hunter.


youre a screwball and those arent your handles or work.



and a liar.

OP reserves the right to remove and ban me from his thread. If he deletes this message it's because he was caught red handed.


PS. I sent this forum ID to over 1,500 people. I hope they see it before you delete my comment.
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Dr. Astro, can you please explain your thoughts/theories on what is going on with all the earth changes, what is causing it?
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The earth changes are related to the changes on other planets in our solar system. All the planet have climate changes on them.
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Sorry for the trolling, Astro. People love pretending to be someone they are not while on the internet. I did what I did for my own validation to see if you are who you say you are.

And now to anyone else who had doubts.
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Previously I introduced this spreadsheet for calculating the position and orientation of the moon based on tables published 22 years ago ("Lunar tables and programs from 4000 B.C. to A.D. 8000" by Michelle Chapront-Touzé and Jean Chapront):


I've now updated the spreadsheet to include precession to J2000.0 coordinates, which is the standard most programs and telescopes use. I've also verified the spreadsheet's calculations against fresh astrometric data. The result? The moon is still right where it should be.


Version 2 of the spreadsheet with precession to J2000.0 included:
[link to dropcanvas.com]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

thanks againhf
Ill have to watch them tomorrow, just caught this thread and im exhausted.

i wish these idiots would lay off you.
Its been full on lately.I think theyre jealous.or something.
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Sorry for the trolling, Astro. People love pretending to be someone they are not while on the internet. I did what I did for my own validation to see if you are who you say you are.

And now to anyone else who had doubts.
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Fair enough. I am who I say I am.
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Astro.

Make a thread helping us find Near Earth Objects.


twelve sizable meteorite touch downs in 5 days... Large enough to cause shock waves of destruction.(I am avoiding the natural accumulation of meteorites in a Earth year because the normality of size of these in the past five days is not normal.


How have you not done a thread yet???

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