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What to do with out-of-control 19 year old girl?

 
GreadyGeniu$ (OP)

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Thank you Dr. Acula hf Sorry I cannot write a PM to you but I had a question. At what point does the person decide they want to change their life and leave their demons in the past? What was it that changed the person into deciding they wanted something more out of life and that they needed to heal and move on? What events or emotions can inspire this change? I need some kind of catalyst to spark the change because she doesnt want it for herself yet, but Im sure one day she will wish she had never gone through this.
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I do like that little story of the sun and wind Dr. Acula. I will remember that for a long time.. It is good for a lot of situations. Thank you :D
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Video her when she is drunk and o longer in control. Talk to her and show her the footage when she sobers up best time is when she wakes up hung over. Sometimes you have to video them to show they get more drunk than they think they do.
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Yea the faces she makes are crazy.. Just a constant blank stare, then all the sudden she focuses on you and stares super intense, like uncomfortable to make eye contact and her face contorts and she makes a weird, superficial grin. Then off into space and talkin about complete non-sense. I swear someone could think she is possessed. And she wanders around aimlessly like this..
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Then it is astral possession, she should seek treatment to fight off these evil beings. These faces are probably from different beings not her. Drugs aren't going to remove them.
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Is she drinking because she is depressed? You need to get her on meds if depression is the cause.

I went through this with my daughter and was stupid and didn't insist on medication. She drank because she didn't like herself. When she drank it felt better for her.
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She does take clonazepam.

Speaking of which.. is this a good drug to be on?
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Anyone have experience or know anyone taking this?
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My mother in law was on it for two years, started drinking, became like a zombie...then stopped talking normally or functioning. Nursing home now. Her frontal lobe atrophied.

Read about Stevie Nicks, I believe it almost killed her, too. Thats the only famous person I can think of that involved klonopin ( clonazepam )
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You mentioned she takes clonazepam. That's not a drug for depression!!! That's a drug for anxiety and panic. Like Xanax. Or a recreational drug.
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Video her when she is drunk and o longer in control. Talk to her and show her the footage when she sobers up best time is when she wakes up hung over. Sometimes you have to video them to show they get more drunk than they think they do.
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Yea the faces she makes are crazy.. Just a constant blank stare, then all the sudden she focuses on you and stares super intense, like uncomfortable to make eye contact and her face contorts and she makes a weird, superficial grin. Then off into space and talkin about complete non-sense. I swear someone could think she is possessed. And she wanders around aimlessly like this..
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Then it is astral possession, she should seek treatment to fight off these evil beings. These faces are probably from different beings not her. Drugs aren't going to remove them.
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ugh, translation, watch the exorcist, learn the exorcise, EXORCISE
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Yea the faces she makes are crazy.. Just a constant blank stare, then all the sudden she focuses on you and stares super intense, like uncomfortable to make eye contact and her face contorts and she makes a weird, superficial grin. Then off into space and talkin about complete non-sense. I swear someone could think she is possessed. And she wanders around aimlessly like this..
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Then it is astral possession, she should seek treatment to fight off these evil beings. These faces are probably from different beings not her. Drugs aren't going to remove them.
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Of course what i typed here is complete bullshit to lots of people. I have experienced astral, sleep paralysis, metaphysical feelings, there is more then the physical...
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Yea she takes it for Anxiety/Panic Attacks. And I was just reading that story about Stevie Nicks, very interesting! Thank you guys!
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ugh, translation, watch the exorcist, learn the exorcise, EXORCISE
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Yes, if something is in a movie, therefore it can't possibly exist in "real life". Thousands if not millions of possession experiences, i guess they're all delusions, hallucination, schizophrenia, best to "treat" it with drugs.
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Thank you Dr. Acula hf Sorry I cannot write a PM to you but I had a question. At what point does the person decide they want to change their life and leave their demons in the past? What was it that changed the person into deciding they wanted something more out of life and that they needed to heal and move on? What events or emotions can inspire this change? I need some kind of catalyst to spark the change because she doesnt want it for herself yet, but Im sure one day she will wish she had never gone through this.
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check yo inbox

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I do like that little story of the sun and wind Dr. Acula. I will remember that for a long time.. It is good for a lot of situations. Thank you :D
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hf

you are most welcome :D

You and yours will be in my thoughts and prayers for many moons.

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Yea the faces she makes are crazy.. Just a constant blank stare, then all the sudden she focuses on you and stares super intense, like uncomfortable to make eye contact and her face contorts and she makes a weird, superficial grin. Then off into space and talkin about complete non-sense. I swear someone could think she is possessed. And she wanders around aimlessly like this..
 Quoting: GreadyGeniu$

Then it is astral possession, she should seek treatment to fight off these evil beings. These faces are probably from different beings not her. Drugs aren't going to remove them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34494060

Of course what i typed here is complete bullshit to lots of people. I have experienced astral, sleep paralysis, metaphysical feelings, there is more then the physical...
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I dont disagree but It seems to me you are complicating the matter. Are you saying not literarily but roughly that the Devil invaded your mind to make you behave badly, because if you are that may a great cure but Im afraid you did it to yourself.
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Yea she takes it for Anxiety/Panic Attacks. And I was just reading that story about Stevie Nicks, very interesting! Thank you guys!
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If she has panic disorder alcohol will make it worse. I had severe panic disorder in my early 20s. If she's suffering from that she really does need help and need to watch out for suicide. She needs to focus on something and improve her life. Maybe try to get her back in college, introduce her to some decent people who can befriend her.
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Leave her alone, why do you think you have control over someone elses life? Mind your own business.
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I dont disagree but It seems to me you are complicating the matter. Are you saying not literarily but roughly that the Devil invaded your mind to make you behave badly, because if you are that may a great cure but Im afraid you did it to yourself.
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Nothing invaded me, I just said i experienced non physical sensations, and we are more then physical beings.
Well are these drugs going to work, even though they have killed so many people and don't seem to fix these problems?
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Re: What to do with out-of-control 19 year old girl?
Listen, my ex-gf was the same way since 18. It could be a major hormonal imbalance. She would tend to feel shitty until she started getting drunk and then she would be so intoxicated she would feel better. It is a hard road. Believe me, but you might want to have her get some blood tests.
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Leave her alone, why do you think you have control over someone elses life? Mind your own business.
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Yeah I said something similar earlier, truth is from the information posted, shes still a child and cant look after herself. I dont think she should be in college until shes determined to make a life out of it.
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I had a friend like this, though his problems started a bit younger. When he turned 18 his parents kicked him out of the house and told him he can come visit when he gets his shit together, if that's what he wants. He got his shit together, got a stable job in construction and next time saw his parents two years later, after saving enough money to buy a car. Sometimes tough love works.
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Its so hard tho. Nobody wants to kick her out, everyone just wants her home. "Tough Love" isnt going to work.. she is going to end up a victim of something horrible and never be able to recover or going to take her own life because of depression.
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The Prayers are the only answer. We have prayed for you and her and her parents. It's important that you pray too. Prayer is the ONLY solution.

If you don't feel good about your relationship with GOD, call Him Jesus Christ. He will hear and answer you. His Son, the Lamb, will take you as you are. No judgments, arms eternally stretched out for you. Truly, He loved you before time began and numbers the hairs on your head.

John 14:13-14:14
I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.
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Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete.
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I had a friend like this, though his problems started a bit younger. When he turned 18 his parents kicked him out of the house and told him he can come visit when he gets his shit together, if that's what he wants. He got his shit together, got a stable job in construction and next time saw his parents two years later, after saving enough money to buy a car. Sometimes tough love works.
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Its so hard tho. Nobody wants to kick her out, everyone just wants her home. "Tough Love" isnt going to work.. she is going to end up a victim of something horrible and never be able to recover or going to take her own life because of depression.
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The Prayers are the only answer. We have prayed for you and her and her parents. It's important that you pray too. Prayer is the ONLY solution.

If you don't feel good about your relationship with GOD, call Him Jesus Christ. He will hear and answer you. His Son, the Lamb, will take you as you are. No judgments, arms eternally stretched out for you. Truly, He loved you before time began and numbers the hairs on your head.

John 14:13-14:14
I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.
John 16:24
Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete.
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Like it was for the Black Death?
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Leave her alone, why do you think you have control over someone elses life? Mind your own business.
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Yeah I said something similar earlier, truth is from the information posted, shes still a child and cant look after herself. I dont think she should be in college until shes determined to make a life out of it.
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Yea, leave her alone, don't help anyone besides yourself. What stupid advice.
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Re: What to do with out-of-control 19 year old girl?
Is she drinking because she is depressed? You need to get her on meds if depression is the cause.

I went through this with my daughter and was stupid and didn't insist on medication. She drank because she didn't like herself. When she drank it felt better for her.
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She does take clonazepam.

Speaking of which.. is this a good drug to be on?
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mixing alcohol and benzodiazepenes? no wonder she is like a zombie!
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Kids...
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Drag her ass to a AA meeting and let those who know first hand what she is going through tell her why they wish they had the opportunities she does - before she loses them and throws her life away!
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I could think of a few things
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Is she drinking because she is depressed? You need to get her on meds if depression is the cause.

I went through this with my daughter and was stupid and didn't insist on medication. She drank because she didn't like herself. When she drank it felt better for her.
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Medication doesn't always work. I look at my younger sister as an example. She went through the same thing OP is describing a few years back. Meds only made it worse. She started to abuse the meds. Now, though recovered mentally (mostly), her body is a wreck, and she's still on the meds because her body thinks it needs it because it's become dependent on it.
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So I need some help guys.. Need some advice from either parents or people who have gone through this.

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9teen She's a big girl now. But I do wish you well. hf
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Re: What to do with out-of-control 19 year old girl?
You said it yourself op.
She was passing her classes so her parents thought she was doing good but really she was just going through a deep depression and escaping by drinking.

Thats why shes drinking.

So you need to find out what made her so depressed, and what you can do to help the situation.
It must have been something pretty major, like sexual abuse.
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She had a great childhood. No abuse or baggage
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You, do not know this, for sure.
You assume it.
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I do know this FOR SURE.
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Are you her shrink? Of course you don't know that FOR SURE! Stop assuming things just because of what you've "Seen" doesn't mean you know ALL about someone.
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Well look, it doesn't matter. Her childhood was all that she should expect. Nobody has a perfect childhood or perfect parents.

This girl has to take responsibility for herself. Or, if her parents could get her to stay at home, she could recover a bit, learn the lessons, and start over.

Or if she recognizes her problem enough to go to a 12 step program there might a way through.

Or if she suddenly finds 100 times more willpower than she's ever shown in her life. Or a real strong friend steps in -- this is unlikely, the friends are rarely so strong or care that much.

Those are the good scenarios I can see, hope at least one comes true. She has to accept that life is harder than she expected, but that she must accept and deal with it. hf
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You said it yourself op.
She was passing her classes so her parents thought she was doing good but really she was just going through a deep depression and escaping by drinking.

Thats why shes drinking.

So you need to find out what made her so depressed, and what you can do to help the situation.
It must have been something pretty major, like sexual abuse.
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imho -- this is bullshit.

She may just be in a funk. A very costly one.

And it doesn't matter, in any case she's got to pull herself out of it. Help is available if she is willing to accept it.
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Who goes off to college two months before classes start? And who paid for THAT? I doubt the binge drinking *started* at college, either way. It doesn't sound like the parents monitored what was going on with her before or after her stint away at college?

And no, you can't DO anything with an out-of-control adult. Not unless they start breaking laws.
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Who pays for her alcohol? Who buys it for her? She is underage and can't buy it herself!

That person needs to be out of her life right now.

She needs to go to her parents and tell them that she has been manipulative and lying to them. She needs to beg them to help her stay sober. She needs them to hold her accountable.

If she really wants to get well, she will have to be the one to put forth the effort. If she doesn't care, nothing will help her.
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Drag her ass to a AA meeting and let those who know first hand what she is going through tell her why they wish they had the opportunities she does - before she loses them and throws her life away!
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If you can make her go to this, it would be an outstanding idea.

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