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Even anti-smoking organizations understand that obama’s excessive tx levy upon smokers is wrong: Big tobacco and anti-cancer activists agree: Hea

 
SilverPatriot

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Even anti-smoking organizations understand that obama’s excessive tx levy upon smokers is wrong: Big tobacco and anti-cancer activists agree: Hea
Even anti-smoking organizations understand that dictator obama unfairly victimizes smokers in his obamacare taxation scam.

Big tobacco and anti-cancer activists agree: Health provision goes too far

For all the political division over the nation’s health-care law, one provision has managed to put two longtime rivals on the same side.
Big tobacco companies and anti-cancer activists are standing in opposition to a part of the Affordable Care Act that allows insurance companies to charge smokers 50 percent more than patients who do not use tobacco.
Cigarette makers such as Altria say the policy amounts to discrimination against smokers.
The American Cancer Society, meanwhile, worries that the high surcharges could make health insurance unaffordable to cigarette smokers, who are disproportionately low income.
“We’re anti-smoking, not anti-smoker,” said David Woodmansee, the cancer society’s associate director for state and local campaigns.
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Re: Even anti-smoking organizations understand that obama’s excessive tx levy upon smokers is wrong: Big tobacco and anti-cancer activists agree: Hea
I don't
Care
BC I hate smelling
Cig
Smoke
Anyway. But
Good
Luck with this
Low
Priority battle
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Re: Even anti-smoking organizations understand that obama’s excessive tx levy upon smokers is wrong: Big tobacco and anti-cancer activists agree: Hea
I don't
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BC I hate smelling
Cig
Smoke
Anyway. But
Good
Luck with this
Low
Priority battle
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1384759


I believe you missed the point, as it is another tentacle of obama’s healthcare taxation system designed solely for generating revenue.

The 1998 Tobacco Master Settlement Agreement (MSA) brought about by many states for reimbursement to Medicaid for “smoking” related illnesses makes this hogwash just another obama scam to bilk people and primarily the poor out of money.

The leftist states such as New York who eagerly held their greedy paws for money to balance their overspending budgets have squandered the money away and are looking to bilk anyone with deep pockets.

Frankly son you focus too much upon your own selfish wants instead of looking t the larger picture and I have to ask with your dismal text formatting where was your reply copied from as you neglected to copy anything meaningful.

Tobacco Master Settlement Agreement
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Tobacco settlement helps everyone but smokers
[link to www.publicintegrity.org]
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thank you oboma, smoke free for 1 year. saved well over 4k. gained 40 lbs tho.
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thank you oboma, smoke free for 1 year. saved well over 4k. gained 40 lbs tho.
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Too bad obama just gave up smoking, as it would be far cheaper for the American taxpayer if he gave up his luxurious vacations and parties.
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thank you oboma, smoke free for 1 year. saved well over 4k. gained 40 lbs tho.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10098396


Another government teat sucker...

I guess you didn't read the 75% surcharge for people more than 20 lbs overweight...oh that's right, people like you want MORE government in their lives telling you what you should and should not do

Enjoy your elite masters idiot

OP: Thanks SP for the article/post. Sadly, nothing shocks me anymore from this socialist dictator and his cabal of wolves

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thank you oboma, smoke free for 1 year. saved well over 4k. gained 40 lbs tho.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10098396


Another government teat sucker...

I guess you didn't read the 75% surcharge for people more than 20 lbs overweight...oh that's right, people like you want MORE government in their lives telling you what you should and should not do

Enjoy your elite masters idiot

OP: Thanks SP for the article/post. Sadly, nothing shocks me anymore from this socialist dictator and his cabal of wolves anymore
 Quoting: Nemamiah


6'2" 195 lbs. Speak for yourself fuckstick.
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Tobacco companies should have been sued out of existence years ago. Evil. Just fucking evil.

As Yul Brynner said, 'Now that I’m gone, I tell you: Don’t smoke. Whatever you do, just don’t smoke.'
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thank you oboma, smoke free for 1 year. saved well over 4k. gained 40 lbs tho.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10098396


Another government teat sucker...

I guess you didn't read the 75% surcharge for people more than 20 lbs overweight...oh that's right, people like you want MORE government in their lives telling you what you should and should not do

Enjoy your elite masters idiot

OP: Thanks SP for the article/post. Sadly, nothing shocks me anymore from this socialist dictator and his cabal of wolves anymore
 Quoting: Nemamiah


6'2" 195 lbs. Speak for yourself fuckstick.
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You missed the point everyone falls under some obama “healthcare” caveat in which the communist dictator can reach deep into your pockets unless of course you are one of the leeches totally dependent upon the government for your pitiful existence. Then just wait to see what his plans are for you just think about it and have you read his healthcare plan fiasco.
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Tobacco companies should have been sued out of existence years ago. Evil. Just fucking evil.

As Yul Brynner said, 'Now that I’m gone, I tell you: Don’t smoke. Whatever you do, just don’t smoke.'
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I can see freedom and freedom of choice has no meaning to you and suspect you will willing to follow like a lost sheep to the Agenda 21 goals without stopping to understand the concept of freedom.
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thank you oboma, smoke free for 1 year. saved well over 4k. gained 40 lbs tho.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10098396


Too bad obama just gave up smoking, as it would be far cheaper for the American taxpayer if he gave up his luxurious vacations and parties.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


Silverpatriot, this is so off-topic. However, I have wondered for long if your dog avatar is actual your dog - and actually an Anatolian.

I ask because I lost my Anatolian last year to a possible and unexpected heart attack; and it has been devastating beyond words.

So, if it is your dog and an Anatolian, you have one of the most special dogs on the planet. Happy for you.

Once the breed gets under your skin, it stays there forever - even if you cannot have another one.

ON TOPIC - Obamacare is not about health, except for certain segments that have already exhibited a propensity toward crime. Obamacare is truly about asset transfer. There really is no one Obama won't eventually throw under the bus in his power grab. Obamacare is just another aspect of that powergrab.

I used to smoke but have not for a very long time. Yet, I have always objected to all things that penalize smokers. This one is beyond egregious.
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Re: Even anti-smoking organizations understand that obama’s excessive tx levy upon smokers is wrong: Big tobacco and anti-cancer activists agree: Hea
thank you oboma, smoke free for 1 year. saved well over 4k. gained 40 lbs tho.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10098396


Too bad obama just gave up smoking, as it would be far cheaper for the American taxpayer if he gave up his luxurious vacations and parties.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


Silverpatriot, this is so off-topic. However, I have wondered for long if your dog avatar is actual your dog - and actually an Anatolian.

I ask because I lost my Anatolian last year to a possible and unexpected heart attack; and it has been devastating beyond words.

So, if it is your dog and an Anatolian, you have one of the most special dogs on the planet. Happy for you.

Once the breed gets under your skin, it stays there forever - even if you cannot have another one.

ON TOPIC - Obamacare is not about health, except for certain segments that have already exhibited a propensity toward crime. Obamacare is truly about asset transfer. There really is no one Obama won't eventually throw under the bus in his power grab. Obamacare is just another aspect of that powergrab.

I used to smoke but have not for a very long time. Yet, I have always objected to all things that penalize smokers. This one is beyond egregious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34787479


I am sorry for your loss and agree the Anatolian is a special breed that requires much training and socialization when young but the effort brings rewards. The avatar is my Anatolian Shepherd he will be two years old this spring and will not reach full maturity for another year has a year or so to fill out to his mature size.

Anatolian’s are typically healthy dogs and in spite of their massive size typically live to be 12-15 years of age, how old was your dog.

Back to the topic, obama is all for spreading the wealth as if that philosophy ever worked or benefited anyone beyond the government. We are fast tracking to becoming North Korea and obamacare only means the people will soon be groveling for healthcare.
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Re: Even anti-smoking organizations understand that obama’s excessive tx levy upon smokers is wrong: Big tobacco and anti-cancer activists agree: Hea
I don't
Care
BC I hate smelling
Cig
Smoke
Anyway. But
Good
Luck with this
Low
Priority battle
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1384759


First they came for the smokers, and I said nothing, for I was not a smoker ...
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Re: Even anti-smoking organizations understand that obama’s excessive tx levy upon smokers is wrong: Big tobacco and anti-cancer activists agree: Hea
as a smoker i hope it keeps going up...really need to quit...stick the tax so far up my ass I have no choice but to quit......though I laugh at nonsmokers crying bout my
smoking while they are eating drinking nothing but chemicals
buying crap at wallyworld..ingesting lead and arsenic from their cheap garbage products made in china, and the same
whiners whom jump into their suv or truck and put out more
pollution in their ten minute trip home than I will smoking all of my life.....dumbshits
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Re: Even anti-smoking organizations understand that obama’s excessive tx levy upon smokers is wrong: Big tobacco and anti-cancer activists agree: Hea
yes yes EVERYTHING is about Obama we know we know, once he is gone there will be free cigarettes and guns for all, taxes will disappear and the roads will be paved with handjobs.
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yes yes EVERYTHING is about Obama we know we know, once he is gone there will be free cigarettes and guns for all, taxes will disappear and the roads will be paved with handjobs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27515407


Most people would be happy if obama would act responsibly and not drive us further into debt with his spend your way out of debt philosophy or spread the wealth nonsense as if were a sustainable option.

One good policy would be for the megalomaniac to stop all of his extravagant vacations and lavish parties.

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