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Italy updates!!! A SECOND TECNOCRATIC GOV ON THE WAY???

 
Luisport (OP)

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02/25/2013 04:03 PM

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-217!!! abomb
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02/25/2013 04:04 PM

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-217!!! abomb
 Quoting: Luisport


Wrong thread chuckle
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02/25/2013 04:04 PM
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germany posesses more gold than the combined restof the eu.
there is a reason why state owned gold is also called "WARCHEST".
there also is a reason why germany brings this gold home.....
they know what is to come.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35080848


Truth is, that in july 2012, Herr Schaeuble had a little visit, from his "friend" the US finance minister Geitner, on his little island called Ruegen.

One week after, Merkel went back from her crisis meeting empty handed, pushed through the n+1 greece rescue package and Draghi uttered his magic words.

One thing is for sure, in this poker, Germany has the most to loose:

1) going back to DMark would mean the Bundesbank would need to go on overdrive to bring down its value (similar to the swiss today).

2) Exports would break in with all the negative consequences for the german economy and the budget

3) Germany would be politically marginalized.

France would probably lend money, inflate at 10 % and wait a decade. We do not have our money in assurances, here people invest in bricks, stones and walls.
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what do you think?

will grillo catch even more seats if reelection takes place?
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what do you think?

will grillo catch even more seats if reelection takes place?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35080848


wow THAT WOULD BE AWSOME!!!!
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02/25/2013 04:06 PM

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-217!!! abomb
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Wrong thread chuckle
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


naaa this is the result
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02/25/2013 04:06 PM
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it seems the only solution is PD+PDL

just like democrats + republicans

cruise
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02/25/2013 04:06 PM
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GRILLO just said that NO WAY they will make pact/deals with either of the two left/right parties......

The "elderly" will HAVE to leave and accept that from now on matters will have to be DISCUSSED and NO MORE "inciuccio"

Left/right better get to terms with a "new way of politics".....

THIS is how the PEOPLE voted and this HAS TO be accepted and respected by the parties......
 Quoting: pray_Italy 35158131


popcorn
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02/25/2013 04:06 PM
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It looks set to me.

Would a re-election make any difference?
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02/25/2013 04:07 PM
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I wonder my French friend, what will happen to the European Central Banks's liabilites BuBa guarantees...

lmao
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02/25/2013 04:07 PM
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what do you think?

will grillo catch even more seats if reelection takes place?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35080848


of course...
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02/25/2013 04:08 PM
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The only way re-election works is if the lower ones drop out like the French elections.
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02/25/2013 04:09 PM
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germany posesses more gold than the combined restof the eu.
there is a reason why state owned gold is also called "WARCHEST".
there also is a reason why germany brings this gold home.....
they know what is to come.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35080848


Truth is, that in july 2012, Herr Schaeuble had a little visit, from his "friend" the US finance minister Geitner, on his little island called Ruegen.

One week after, Merkel went back from her crisis meeting empty handed, pushed through the n+1 greece rescue package and Draghi uttered his magic words.

One thing is for sure, in this poker, Germany has the most to loose:

1) going back to DMark would mean the Bundesbank would need to go on overdrive to bring down its value (similar to the swiss today).

2) Exports would break in with all the negative consequences for the german economy and the budget

3) Germany would be politically marginalized.

France would probably lend money, inflate at 10 % and wait a decade. We do not have our money in assurances, here people invest in bricks, stones and walls.
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


im not so sure.

lets assume germany going protective...and...for example forgets the european market...instead do bilateral trade with china and russia...and the muslim world....dont forget WE OWN INDUSTRY.....we could if we wanted....
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02/25/2013 04:10 PM

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zerohedge‏@zerohedge

PD's Letta speaking live on RAI [link to www.zerohedge.com] …
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02/25/2013 04:11 PM
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"COUNTRY MAY BE 'UNGOVERNABLE'!" lol what a load of shit to scare people, belgium had a politic crisis years ago with no governement for months and what happened ? : nothing.
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02/25/2013 04:12 PM
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....dont forget WE OWN INDUSTRY.....we could if we wanted....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35080848


What do you own ?
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02/25/2013 04:12 PM
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Left coalition -Bersani- 31.93%
Right coalition -Berlusconi- 30.36%

This result is after 51,355 ballot stations counted, out of 60,431 in total, meaning roughly 84,94% votes counted out of 100%.

The difference now between left and right is only 1.57%.
 Quoting: recollector



57,137 ballot stations counted :

Left coalition -Bersani- 31.76
Right coalition -Berlusconi- 30.60%

The difference now between left and right is now 1.16%...


But nothing will change with under 3,000 stations left to count.
recollector
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02/25/2013 04:13 PM

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zerohedge‏@zerohedge

THE BROKERS WITH HANDS ON THEIR FACES [link to brokershandsontheirfacesblog.tumblr.com]
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02/25/2013 04:14 PM

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Check Out Today's Incredible Spike In FEAR [link to read.bi]
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02/25/2013 04:14 PM
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"COUNTRY MAY BE 'UNGOVERNABLE'!" lol what a load of shit to scare people, belgium had a politic crisis years ago with no governement for months and what happened ? : nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35088492


LOL, true, countries without government are probably better off, than with it ...

5a
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"COUNTRY MAY BE 'UNGOVERNABLE'!" lol what a load of shit to scare people, belgium had a politic crisis years ago with no governement for months and what happened ? : nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35088492


Belgium in NO WAY is like Italy.

Belgium have very different parliamentary laws compared to Italy.
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02/25/2013 04:17 PM
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....dont forget WE OWN INDUSTRY.....we could if we wanted....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35080848


What do you own ?
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


ever heard of frauenhofer institute?
they own about every license at at least 50%

its not about the industrial complexes...
you can dismantle them at any time and build em somewhere else...

its about who will be allowed to produce and where at which conditions.....

licenses....
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02/25/2013 04:20 PM

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LIVE: ITALIAN VOTERS STAGE 'REBELLION', GOVERNMENT SPLITS, MARKETS PLUNGE [link to read.bi]
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02/25/2013 04:24 PM

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Rome, Italy — We're live from the Casa dell'Architettura in Rome, where the center-left Partito Democratico is hosting its election day activities.

Over 7 hours after the polls have closed, things have turned to chaos.

Markets around the world are plunging, as we have seen a split vote.

The markets were hoping for the liberal leader Pier Luigi Bersani to win easily, allowing him to form a coalition government with technocrat leader Mario Monti.

This would ahve paved the way for unpopular austerity and reforms, that the rest of Europe has been very happy to see.

But the voters had a different idea tonight. As Emmanueal Letta -- the second in command of the left party -- just explained, the voters have entered a "rebellion" and the country appears to be ungovernable.

The Senate is too divided for any party to claim a victory, and in fact Berlusconi, who was thought to be in second place, appears to have won the majority of seats in the Senate.

All this news has caused markets to quake. US stocks tanked. Fear has surged. The Euro has fallen. Gold spiked. And the Japanese yen had a gigantic day.

What happens next is very unclear now. Some are wondering outright whether Italy will simply ned to have another election.

Meanwhile there is a huge throng of reporters now at Bersani HQ. Here's a quick look.
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 Quoting: Luisport


Italy has lots of debts, thats true, but it is mostly held by italiens.
Italy has had a surplus the last years, meaning a functioning economy.
Italy can handle its debts. They proved it the last 20 years.

What happens today is, that countries are attacked by the "markets", but their ultimate aim is the EURO.

At the same time, in countries like France or Germany, money is invested and safe, due to the QEn+1 liquidity bubble.

France is far worse off than Italy. All that, makes only sense, if you accept one fact:

We are being played by international investors, aka wall street and the city. We are the ball, that is being played in a big international financial ball game.
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02/25/2013 04:25 PM
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so who won and whasts the votes (result) translated from italian to english?
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PD’s Letta Says Second Vote Not Right Approach for Italy. So let's just appoint a Goldman despot
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02/25/2013 04:32 PM
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so who won and whasts the votes (result) translated from italian to english?
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berlusconi claims victory in senate.
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02/25/2013 04:36 PM
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....dont forget WE OWN INDUSTRY.....we could if we wanted....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35080848


What do you own ?
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


ever heard of frauenhofer institute?
they own about every license at at least 50%

its not about the industrial complexes...
you can dismantle them at any time and build em somewhere else...

its about who will be allowed to produce and where at which conditions.....

licenses....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35080848


Interesting, I will check that ... but right now, I have a big doubt.

Nothing against you, but the business of little papers called licenses .... is very difficult, there are laws, and seen between samsung and apple, not always very convincing .... .
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so who won and whasts the votes (result) translated from italian to english?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35131605


berlusconi claims victory in senate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35080848


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