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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31834029  France02/25/2013 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i just love it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35080848 berlusconi just said on tv that the government is a worse mafia than the sicilian mafia. hahahaahah. You will love it even more, when you have to pay a Solidarbeitrag from your monthly paycheck, to help support your euro-fellow southern states. And, BTW, France will be next, we are driving agains the wall, and that very fast, LOL. If you like economics .... Eurocrisis Is Just Beginning [link to dareconomics.wordpress.com] and 20 Years of Austerity in Italy [link to dareconomics.wordpress.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35144135  Portugal02/25/2013 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Business Insider‏@businessinsider At Least We Know Who Lost The Italian Election [link to read.bi] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35080848 Germany02/25/2013 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i just love it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35080848 berlusconi just said on tv that the government is a worse mafia than the sicilian mafia. hahahaahah. You will love it even more, when you have to pay a Solidarbeitrag from your monthly paycheck, to help support your euro-fellow southern states. And, BTW, France will be next, we are driving agains the wall, and that very fast, LOL. If you like economics .... Eurocrisis Is Just Beginning [link to dareconomics.wordpress.com] and 20 Years of Austerity in Italy [link to dareconomics.wordpress.com] i dont see a problem with germany helping out eu nations or loosing wealth slowly for sake of the EU. what im scared of is...what if we dont make it? if it is just too much? what if the chainreaction blows right into our faces? can you imagine how badly germanys population will filp out if they loose their wealth from one day to another?(or simply too fast?) they will look for someone to blame as they always did. i think its time to have an emergency plan to get out of this eu shithole when shtf. |
Cocorito90  User ID: 28952191  San Marino02/25/2013 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | highly possible, almost sure, but I don't know if such a coalition could rule.... Last Edited by Cocorito90 on 02/25/2013 03:12 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31834029 France02/25/2013 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And ze Germans would love to go back to their beloved Deutsch Mark. Quoting: An Ordinary Greek 35126030  im not saying having a leftist government is a bad thing. im saying germany is in a scary situation. if we'd return to nationaly currencies we'd loose our exports. if we stay within the eurozone we will have to find a solution for all the other memberstates before they shipwreck and trigger a chain reaction. i anyway wonder why germany is beeing held so strong during the economic crisis. its almost like someone fears to see germany go into recession. looking into history it's understandable. could it be that if we were to suffer we'd go to war again? i'd have to leave this country if so..... scary shit.... ...especially if the EU construct has any miscalculation we jaust dont see yet..... The basic solution to all this misery is to create a european nation state. The basic problem is that France would not give up her souvereign rights as a state (budget, law, and so on). The other basic problem is that Germany won't accept eurobonds to not to pay the debts of other states. Checkmate. Exit. |
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| Cocorito90 User ID: 28952191 San Marino02/25/2013 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i just love it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35080848 berlusconi just said on tv that the government is a worse mafia than the sicilian mafia. hahahaahah. You will love it even more, when you have to pay a Solidarbeitrag from your monthly paycheck, to help support your euro-fellow southern states. And, BTW, France will be next, we are driving agains the wall, and that very fast, LOL. If you like economics .... Eurocrisis Is Just Beginning [link to dareconomics.wordpress.com] and 20 Years of Austerity in Italy [link to dareconomics.wordpress.com] i dont see a problem with germany helping out eu nations or loosing wealth slowly for sake of the EU. what im scared of is...what if we dont make it? if it is just too much? what if the chainreaction blows right into our faces? can you imagine how badly germanys population will filp out if they loose their wealth from one day to another?(or simply too fast?) they will look for someone to blame as they always did. i think its time to have an emergency plan to get out of this eu shithole when shtf. Germany should understand that Euro is a fake thing....and when france will go bankrupt, reality will be so bad..... you leaders have told you that PIIGS are the problem and now they can't say that Euro is the problem....... Last Edited by Cocorito90 on 02/25/2013 03:15 PM |
| An Ordinary Greek User ID: 35126030  Greece02/25/2013 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | im not saying having a leftist government is a bad thing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35080848 im saying germany is in a scary situation. if we'd return to nationaly currencies we'd loose our exports. if we stay within the eurozone we will have to find a solution for all the other memberstates before they shipwreck and trigger a chain reaction. i anyway wonder why germany is beeing held so strong during the economic crisis. its almost like someone fears to see germany go into recession. looking into history it's understandable. could it be that if we were to suffer we'd go to war again? i'd have to leave this country if so..... scary shit.... ...especially if the EU construct has any miscalculation we jaust dont see yet..... If Berlusconi is somehow the "21st Century Mussolini", what's the probability of Peer Steinbrück being the "21st Century Hitler"? And I'm not saying these two will drag Europe to a new war. In all seriousness, Germany and Italy will dissolve the EU. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35137190  Italy02/25/2013 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35080848 Germany02/25/2013 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And ze Germans would love to go back to their beloved Deutsch Mark. Quoting: An Ordinary Greek 35126030 im not saying having a leftist government is a bad thing. im saying germany is in a scary situation. if we'd return to nationaly currencies we'd loose our exports. if we stay within the eurozone we will have to find a solution for all the other memberstates before they shipwreck and trigger a chain reaction. i anyway wonder why germany is beeing held so strong during the economic crisis. its almost like someone fears to see germany go into recession. looking into history it's understandable. could it be that if we were to suffer we'd go to war again? i'd have to leave this country if so..... scary shit.... ...especially if the EU construct has any miscalculation we jaust dont see yet..... The basic solution to all this misery is to create a european nation state. The basic problem is that France would not give up her souvereign rights as a state (budget, law, and so on). The other basic problem is that Germany won't accept eurobonds to not to pay the debts of other states. Checkmate. Exit. im also not a friend of the eurobonds. its better to get money from aaa rating and use it inside the eu with bilateral soultions. eurobonds would put a rating for entire europe a1 mabe. so aquiring money on the international market would become more expensive in general. what the eu central bank did with the esf was the right thing! central bank can now give money to eu memberstates at 0% interest rate. none of the international moneygivers can compete with that. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35080848 Germany02/25/2013 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And ze Germans would love to go back to their beloved Deutsch Mark. Quoting: An Ordinary Greek 35126030 im not saying having a leftist government is a bad thing. im saying germany is in a scary situation. if we'd return to nationaly currencies we'd loose our exports. if we stay within the eurozone we will have to find a solution for all the other memberstates before they shipwreck and trigger a chain reaction. i anyway wonder why germany is beeing held so strong during the economic crisis. its almost like someone fears to see germany go into recession. looking into history it's understandable. could it be that if we were to suffer we'd go to war again? i'd have to leave this country if so..... scary shit.... ...especially if the EU construct has any miscalculation we jaust dont see yet..... The basic solution to all this misery is to create a european nation state. The basic problem is that France would not give up her souvereign rights as a state (budget, law, and so on). The other basic problem is that Germany won't accept eurobonds to not to pay the debts of other states. Checkmate. Exit. im also not a friend of the eurobonds. its better to get money from aaa rating and use it inside the eu with bilateral soultions. eurobonds would put a rating for entire europe a1 mabe. so aquiring money on the international market would become more expensive in general. what the eu central bank did with the esf was the right thing! central bank can now give money to eu memberstates at 0% interest rate. none of the international moneygivers can compete with that. for example...britain... even if their rating drops the eu central bank could give em money for no interest rate saving em from the sharks on the international market. sadly britain is still not a member of the euro zone. we need a eu nation to protect ourselfes....that has to be understood. |
| insertfunnyusername User ID: 33954516 Greece02/25/2013 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35080848 Germany02/25/2013 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | im not saying having a leftist government is a bad thing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35080848 im saying germany is in a scary situation. if we'd return to nationaly currencies we'd loose our exports. if we stay within the eurozone we will have to find a solution for all the other memberstates before they shipwreck and trigger a chain reaction. i anyway wonder why germany is beeing held so strong during the economic crisis. its almost like someone fears to see germany go into recession. looking into history it's understandable. could it be that if we were to suffer we'd go to war again? i'd have to leave this country if so..... scary shit.... ...especially if the EU construct has any miscalculation we jaust dont see yet..... If Berlusconi is somehow the "21st Century Mussolini", what's the probability of Peer Steinbrück being the "21st Century Hitler"? And I'm not saying these two will drag Europe to a new war. In all seriousness, Germany and Italy will dissolve the EU. that scares me even more.... we already had that 80 years ago. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35144135 Portugal02/25/2013 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35080848 Germany02/25/2013 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Current projections suggest that against all predictions Silvio Berlusconi’s rightwing coalition will dominate the Italian Senate – but Pier Luigi Bersani’s leftwing grouping will end up the biggest in the Chamber of Deputies. The result for Italy seems likely to be gridlock – and perhaps further elections within months. It is thought impossible that Berlusconi and Bersani might team up in a grand coalition. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31834029 France02/25/2013 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for example...britain... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35080848 even if their rating drops the eu central bank could give em money for no interest rate saving em from the sharks on the international market. sadly britain is still not a member of the euro zone. we need a eu nation to protect ourselfes....that has to be understood. Thats true, in our times of currency wars and international debt crisis, if one country would stand alone, it probably would be worse. |
| An Ordinary Greek User ID: 35126030 Greece02/25/2013 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, but the current economic situation in Germany with the so-called Hartz IV "labor reform" (aka labor slavery) will ultimately lead to protectionism and return to an "economic miracle", otherwise several million Germans will revolt. The Euro, although stable, is not suitable for every country. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31834029 France02/25/2013 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if italy becomes ungovernable today that is likely to bring doom onto italy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35080848 what a mess. LOL, a little crisis meeting, perfectly during all night, and next day Draghi uttering these little magic words "... all it takes", and then back to business as usual. LOL, sarkasm off. |
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