Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum
Users Online Now: 1,116 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 365,671
Pageviews Today: 489,781Threads Today: 133Posts Today: 1,760
03:49 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

DIVINE STRAKE: U.S. MILITARY PLAN TO DETONATE A 700-TON EXPLOSIVE CHARGE JUNE 2ND THAT COULD SEND A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER LAS VEGAS

 
BUSH MUST GO (OP)

User ID: 67500
United States
03/31/2006 02:10 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DIVINE STRAKE: U.S. MILITARY PLAN TO DETONATE A 700-TON EXPLOSIVE CHARGE JUNE 2ND THAT COULD SEND A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER LAS VEGAS
SEE:

Chaiyah
User ID: 74807
3/31/2006 1:25 AM

Also, examine some of Wikipedia's supporting links and questions raised.
'Link, Copy, Paste, & Disseminate!'
Wul
User ID: 73991
United Kingdom
03/31/2006 02:27 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DIVINE STRAKE: U.S. MILITARY PLAN TO DETONATE A 700-TON EXPLOSIVE CHARGE JUNE 2ND THAT COULD SEND A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER LAS VEGAS
But but... DU is not dangerous?


rofl
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
United States
03/31/2006 03:10 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DIVINE STRAKE: U.S. MILITARY PLAN TO DETONATE A 700-TON EXPLOSIVE CHARGE JUNE 2ND THAT COULD SEND A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER LAS VEGAS
BMG,

All that I can say is that as usual, you woo-woos are jumping the gun, and building a mountain out of a molehill, based solely on what others of your ilk are saying. The article says nothing about a radioactive blast or DU casings.

I think that you guys need to develop better senses of perspective and scale, and perhaps some better critical thinking abilities as well (It will help in the long run).
BUSH MUST GO (OP)

User ID: 67500
United States
03/31/2006 06:28 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DIVINE STRAKE: U.S. MILITARY PLAN TO DETONATE A 700-TON EXPLOSIVE CHARGE JUNE 2ND THAT COULD SEND A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER LAS VEGAS
Time to get another User ID, 21264...

'Woo-woos' 'jumping the gun'? Need to exhibit some 'critical thinking'?

Yet, on the other hand, you can neither answer any specific questions asked of you to further clarify your position nor acknowledge posts that offer evidence to the contrary of what you claim... But, but, but, you're such an 'expert'?

scratching

I consulted the 'GLP Oracle'; i.e. 'Advanced GLP Search' [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] (What a GREAT tool, by the way!) to see what you're all about.

Conclusion: Nice try, 21264, but our 'GLP Oracle' seems to show you fit the profile of a classic 'debunker', 'spinner', 'goon', etc. (Raw 'GLP Oracle' data provided below the Reference Material that follows:-)~ who appears on particular sensitive issues and fires away with the same basic rhetoric.

As GLP's 'GREY LENSMAN' pointed out to you on the Sheen thread, "RULE ONE: THOSE WHO CAN ONLY SHOOT THE MESSENGER HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE." (And you also aren't a big fan of 'Dilatoriness' nor 'Monty', huh, chump?)

The attraction of your 'kind' to certain subjects, by the way, can actually serve to, thus, lend that much more credibility to a topic. (Thanks:-)~

Hit the road, Jack!

ratdance

But don't leave empty handed. Here, take the handy Reference Material below back to the goon squad so you can brush up on your technique and attempt to fix your flaws...

1rof1

BMG

-----

REFERENCE MATERIAL:

TWENTY-FIVE WAYS TO SUPPRESS TRUTH: THE RULES OF DISINFORMATION (INCLUDES THE 8 TRAITS OF A DISINFORMATIONALIST)
www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?messageid=212466 [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

ALSO:

www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11901.htm [link to www.informationclearinghouse.info]

EXCERPT: "...The War Dept. is planning to insert itself into every area of the internet from blogs to chat rooms, from leftist web sites to editorial commentary. The objective is to challenge any tidbit of information that appears on the web that may counter the official narrative..."

www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2006/060206internetdoom​sday.htm [link to www.prisonplanet.com]

EXCERPT: "...The end game is a system similar to China, whereby no websites even mildly critical of the government will be authorized.

The Pentagon admitted that they would engage [link to news.bbc.co.uk] in psychological warfare and cyber attacks on 'enemy' Internet websites in an attempt to shut them down. The fact that the NSA surveillance program spied on 5,000 Americans tells us that the enemy is the alternative media and that it will be targeted for elimination..."

---

RAW 'GLP ORACLE' [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] DATA ON 21264.

A PATTERN EMERGES...

---

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/27/2006 3:39 AM
Re: GLP HAS BEEN HACKED - data posted AFTER feb 16 may be lost - everything else is still there

Mrdjs7 said:

"Thanks Trin.

Your honesty has been noted.

Now find the fucktard and let the feds at them!"

You people truly *amaze* me. You blast the Feds for doing their job *until* something like this hacking happens, *then* you get all 'gung-ho' about them going after the perpetrators. What a bunch of hypocrites you are.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/27/2006 4:11 AM
Re: Charlie Sheen has accomplished quite an opening up to the truth!

OP,

Yep, he *sure* is! He's showing just how big of a washed-up, publicity-seeking has-been 'a-hole' he *really* is! He'll say (or do) *anything* just to get back into the limelight!

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/27/2006 4:30 AM
Re: Charlie Sheen has accomplished quite an opening up to the truth!

*Jennifer*,

Funny, all the people that I know don't give a damn about what a 'celebrity' says (or feels) about *anything*. In addition, they all feel that it is dead *wrong* for a 'celebrity' to use their status to promote *any* political agenda.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/27/2006 4:48 AM
Re: Charlie Sheen has accomplished quite an opening up to the truth!

*Jennifer*

Not *all* of them are. How about Tom "I am Tom Almighty" Cruise, or Isaac "I can offend you, but don't you *dare* offend me" Hayes?

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/27/2006 5:06 AM
Re: Charlie Sheen has accomplished quite an opening up to the truth!

Dilat,

There is nothing wrong with being a 'cynic' - especially when there's so much to be 'cynical' about (like you woo-woos and your nonsensical CTs).

BTW, you call it being 'cynical'; I call it being *realistic*.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/27/2006 5:24 AM
Re: Charlie Sheen has accomplished quite an opening up to the truth!

Jstar,

"21264>>>"In addition, they all feel that it is dead *wrong* for a 'celebrity' to use their status to promote *any* political agenda."

Oh yeah, sure, you say that NOW, but wait till election times rolls 'round and celebrities are endorsing candidates left right and center, bet you’re the first to be "oh my god –oh my god, Sharon Stone is rooting for *our* team – try again blow hard."

Unlike a lot of people, I *never* let a 'celebrity', or a 'pretty face' influence my vote. I judge the issues on their *merit*, *not* on who is 'pitching' them.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/27/2006 6:22 AM
Re: Charlie Sheen has accomplished quite an opening up to the truth!

Dilat,

"Yeah you're a realistic bad-mouther, nothing else."

Better that then being a non-thinking fool who believes every bit of woo-woo disinformation, or every woo-woo 'story', that comes down the pike (*especially* those "Don't worry, our 'space friends' will save us!" 'gems' (You know which ones
I mean, don't you? - Sure you do!).

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/27/2006 7:06 AM
Re: Charlie Sheen has accomplished quite an opening up to the truth!

'Janus', like your 'space friends', doesn't exist.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/27/2006 7:21 AM
Re: Charlie Sheen has accomplished quite an opening up to the truth!

Yes, and *you've* got a very *exteme* case of it, don't you?

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/27/2006 7:22 AM
Re: Charlie Sheen has accomplished quite an opening up to the truth!

**extreme**

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/27/2006 7:25 AM
Re: Charlie Sheen has accomplished quite an opening up to the truth!

So, you *admit* that you're 'nuts'?

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/27/2006 7:32 AM
Re: Charlie Sheen has accomplished quite an opening up to the truth!

Dilat,

Good Night, "Mad Hatter"...

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/28/2006 4:47 PM
Re: Bush looks Haggard: Maybe soon we'll be shed of him.

4891,

How do *you* know that? *Personal* experience?

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/28/2006 4:40 PM
Re: Bush looks Haggard: Maybe soon we'll be shed of him.

OP,

You wish!

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/28/2006 5:17 PM
Re: News Flash: 9/11 Cover-Up! Ed Asner's appearance on CNN cancelled due to the adversary calling it off.

OP (Dilat),

Ah yes, Ed Asner, *another* Hollywood 'has-been' who is desperate for more time in the limelight. Who next, Erik Estrada?

BTW, when, did you say, are those 'space friends' of yours going to come and "save" us? Wasn't it on the 12th of *never*?

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/28/2006 5:33 PM
Re: News Flash: 9/11 Cover-Up! Ed Asner's appearance on CNN cancelled due to the adversary calling it off.

Dilat,

"..verifiable, scientific proof.."

Yeah, right, from a slew of *pseudoscientific* CTs.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/28/2006 5:54 PM
Re: News Flash: 9/11 Cover-Up! Ed Asner's appearance on CNN cancelled due to the adversary calling it off.

? ---> 8310, <--- ?

? ---> RE: TR <--- ?

Amen and bravo!

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/28/2006 6:09 PM
Re: News Flash: 9/11 Cover-Up! Ed Asner's appearance on CNN cancelled due to the adversary calling it off.

On Infowars.com:

"9/11 whitewash Commission."

A Left-Wing website/blog that spins/editorializes an *update*; why *aren't* I suprised?

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/28/2006 6:10 PM
Re: News Flash: 9/11 Cover-Up! Ed Asner's appearance on CNN cancelled due to the adversary calling it off.

**surprised?**

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/28/2006 6:15 PM
Re: News Flash: 9/11 Cover-Up! Ed Asner's appearance on CNN cancelled due to the adversary calling it off.

...And Dilat *continues* the spin!

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/28/2006 6:23 PM
Re: News Flash: 9/11 Cover-Up! Ed Asner's appearance on CNN cancelled due to the adversary calling it off.

Dilat,

Learn to read. That's who 17305 was *talking* about.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/28/2006 6:51 PM
Re: News Flash: 9/11 Cover-Up! Ed Asner's appearance on CNN cancelled due to the adversary calling it off.

So, CNN has been "milking" the 9/11 "inside job" hoax for the ratings "boost"; surprise, surprise! Just goes to show that if you want to see real news, not sensationalism, watch FOXNews, not CNN!

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/28/2006 7:43 PM
Re: News Flash: 9/11 Cover-Up! Ed Asner's appearance on CNN cancelled due to the adversary calling it off.

74860,

A 'has-been' actor who has a show on a network, who's News Division wouldn't know how to broadcast a fair and objective news story if their lives depended on it. Yeah, he should feel right at home there.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/28/2006 8:14 PM
Re: RIOTS IN PARIS....LIVE ON SKY NEWS NOW.

Monty,

Yeah, right. What you are really saying is that Europeans are *paid* for sitting around *all* day, while doing absolutly *nothing*.

As for the students, the only reason that they are protesting is because they are realizing that they will actually have to *work* on their jobs, or get fired.

Welcome to the *real* world, guys. The days of the "free" money are *gone*!

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/28/2006 8:27 PM
Re: RIOTS IN PARIS....LIVE ON SKY NEWS NOW.

8886,

Oh, that's a "good" excuse, isn't it: "It might look as though I'm *just* sitting here, doing nothing, but I *am* using my brain". Uh-huh, *sure* you are.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/28/2006 8:46 PM
Re: RIOTS IN PARIS....LIVE ON SKY NEWS NOW.

If I do, then so should *you*

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/28/2006 8:49 PM
Re: RIOTS IN PARIS....LIVE ON SKY NEWS NOW.

Thank you for your *heartfelt* "compliment"

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/28/2006 8:57 PM
Re: RIOTS IN PARIS....LIVE ON SKY NEWS NOW.

That's right, you don't share any similarities with me. I'm a thinking, adult, human being. What are *you*?

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/30/2006 11:15 PM
Re: Will you PROTEST on the FIRST DAY of the IRAN bombardment?

Absolutely not, because with any luck, Monty, and other terrorist sympathizers like him, will be at ground-zero when it happens (the gene pool needs to be cleaned out).

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/31/2006 12:02 AM
Re: DIVINE STRAKE: U.S. MILITARY PLAN TO DETONATE A 700-TON EXPLOSIVE CHARGE JUNE 2ND THAT COULD SEND A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER LAS VEGAS

regress,

"They're trying to trigger earthquakes."

I hate to burst your woo-woo bubble, but a 700-ton explosive charge would definitely *not* be large enough to set of an earthquake. Hell, the Hiroshima A-Bomb was 16-*kilo*tons (23 times as large), and *it* didn't set one off, so, why should this one?

You woo-woos really *need* to develop a sense of *scale*.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/31/2006 12:55 AM
Re: DIVINE STRAKE: U.S. MILITARY PLAN TO DETONATE A 700-TON EXPLOSIVE CHARGE JUNE 2ND THAT COULD SEND A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER LAS VEGAS

BMG,

Those are the *same* groups of 'scientists' (and I use the term loosely) who always tend to overstate the 'dangers' of whatever they are releasing a report/study on. They have done so on such things as overhead high-voltage lines, microwave ovens, cordless (then cell) phones, sun (UV) lamps, RF radio frequencies (in the form of FM radio and TV signals), and radar guns; things which have since been shown not to be as 'dangerous' as those 'scientists' claimed them to be. So, I'm sorry, but that says to me that they have a *severe* objectivity and credibility problem. I tend not to believe *anybody* with *that* kind of a problem.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/31/2006 1:08 AM
Re: DIVINE STRAKE: U.S. MILITARY PLAN TO DETONATE A 700-TON EXPLOSIVE CHARGE JUNE 2ND THAT COULD SEND A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER LAS VEGAS

...In fact most of that kind of thing have not been shown to be 'dangerous' at all.

<It's "The Boy Who Cried 'Wolf'" Syndrome>

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/31/2006 1:26 AM
Re: DIVINE STRAKE: U.S. MILITARY PLAN TO DETONATE A 700-TON EXPLOSIVE CHARGE JUNE 2ND THAT COULD SEND A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER LAS VEGAS

Actually, the term 'RF radio frequencies' is *redundant*. It should be *just* 'Radio Frequencies'.

Sorry.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/31/2006 2:05 AM
Re: DIVINE STRAKE: U.S. MILITARY PLAN TO DETONATE A 700-TON EXPLOSIVE CHARGE JUNE 2ND THAT COULD SEND A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER LAS VEGAS

BMG (and others),


Unless I missed something, nowhere in that article does it say that it's going to be a *radioactive* explosion. All it said was there would be a 'mushroom' cloud (and *any* large explosion, nuclear *or* conventional, will produce a 'mushroom' cloud - If you don't believe me, just watch large explosions in Movies and TV shows).

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21264
3/31/2006 3:10 AM
Re: DIVINE STRAKE: U.S. MILITARY PLAN TO DETONATE A 700-TON EXPLOSIVE CHARGE JUNE 2ND THAT COULD SEND A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER LAS VEGAS

BMG,

All that I can say is that as usual, you woo-woos are jumping the gun, and building a mountain out of a molehill, based solely on what others of your ilk are saying. The article says nothing about a radioactive blast or DU casings.

I think that you guys need to develop better senses of perspective and scale, and perhaps some better critical thinking abilities as well (It will help in the long run).

---

ANOTHER GOON BITES THE DUST, 5a ANOTHER GOON BITES THE DUST...
'Link, Copy, Paste, & Disseminate!'
K11
User ID: 75808
Puerto Rico
03/31/2006 06:54 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DIVINE STRAKE: U.S. MILITARY PLAN TO DETONATE A 700-TON EXPLOSIVE CHARGE JUNE 2ND THAT COULD SEND A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER LAS VEGAS
Solid Granite ? this assholes forget they can create the greatest fucking EMP weapon ever made ....

solid granite is piezoelectric , the EMP thoose 700 tons (1,400,000 million pounds of explosives)will create is awesome ..

I just disconect my house from the grid 10 minutes before the detonation and wain untill half HR after it ..

K11
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21945
United States
03/31/2006 07:37 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DIVINE STRAKE: U.S. MILITARY PLAN TO DETONATE A 700-TON EXPLOSIVE CHARGE JUNE 2ND THAT COULD SEND A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER LAS VEGAS
and just how are they going to get this 700 ton bomb to a target??

name a plane that will carry it.


I think it's a cover for using small nukes on Iran.
Ralph Malph
User ID: 75981
Canada
03/31/2006 07:41 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DIVINE STRAKE: U.S. MILITARY PLAN TO DETONATE A 700-TON EXPLOSIVE CHARGE JUNE 2ND THAT COULD SEND A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER LAS VEGAS
"THIS WILL RIP A BIG ENOUGH HOLE INTO "HELL" INTO THE SECOND WORLD WHICH IS IN THE CENTER OF THE EARTH THE EARTH SPINS THE LAVA MAGMA AND CARGE KEEP IT BOUND TO THE INNER SURFACE OF THE SPHERE THIS WILL DISRUPT MAGNETIC FEILDS IN THE EARTH FREEING AZRAEL HE WILL RISE UP AND CONSUME YOUR WORLD LEADERS TO MAKE WW3 AND THE ANTICHRIST RULER OVER THE NATIONS"
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Sit on it Potsie!
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 67500
United States
03/31/2006 11:00 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DIVINE STRAKE: U.S. MILITARY PLAN TO DETONATE A 700-TON EXPLOSIVE CHARGE JUNE 2ND THAT COULD SEND A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER LAS VEGAS
Thanks for the concern, Chiptruth, er, I mean, subgenius:-)~ but it really doesn't take much time nor effort on my part and I do 'pick my battles'. I have my reasons for when and where I respond, as in this case, which isn't simply to acknowledge you but return the post to the front page and have more learn about 'Divine Strake'. My 'raison d'aitre' to begin with.

No one, Chipster, is 'getting my goat' (I find the debunkers, and pointing some goons out, often entertaining). Believe me, I have lots of time to do the other things I do...

GLP is not only a recreational break when I'm at the computer (which can be quite often) but I truly like some of the posters I've met here and find them, often, far more interesting than those in my paradigm. Fringe? Sure, however, if you look at any point in history, a percentage, if ever so slight, of those 'on the edge' have always had a better grasp on what's truly 'going on' than the rest of society at the time.

As for A. Whitney..., he's okay, but there are others I personally find far more impressive.

Concerning the 'ad hominem' thing, dude, while the focus on the last few posts I've seen of yours has improved (as you've honed them down, somewhat, to a sigle topic), I clearly understand what that terminology means but, frankly, you've really gotta' drop that writing 'crutch'. It's what gave you away immediately to me, in fact.

Nevertheless, our brief exchange here has once again shed light on 'Divine Strake' to more readers and, applying the 'Rule of Six', which even the goons in the Pentagon acknowledge, we've helped alert even more to their June 2nd plan.

Later, Chipster! hi

BMG
BUSH MUST GO (OP)

User ID: 67500
United States
03/31/2006 11:01 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DIVINE STRAKE: U.S. MILITARY PLAN TO DETONATE A 700-TON EXPLOSIVE CHARGE JUNE 2ND THAT COULD SEND A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER LAS VEGAS
Whoopz! Should have remembered to log in first...

And, in paragraph five, that should read: 'a - single - topic'.

These keys stick sometimes due to the nicotine, I suppose... rolleyes
'Link, Copy, Paste, & Disseminate!'
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 76029
United States
03/31/2006 11:08 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DIVINE STRAKE: U.S. MILITARY PLAN TO DETONATE A 700-TON EXPLOSIVE CHARGE JUNE 2ND THAT COULD SEND A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER LAS VEGAS
What a terrible, astounding waste of human potential. These people are truly insane. Can they really be speaking so openly and glibly? What are they not saying? damned
BUSH MUST GO (OP)

User ID: 67500
United States
03/31/2006 02:54 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DIVINE STRAKE: U.S. MILITARY PLAN TO DETONATE A 700-TON EXPLOSIVE CHARGE JUNE 2ND THAT COULD SEND A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER LAS VEGAS
Spacewar.com released the AFP report [link to www.spacewar.com] today as well with a related link to the Defense Threat Reduction Agency www.dtra.mil/ [link to www.dtra.mil] that boasts it's 'Making the World SAFER'. Just lovely folks...


blink


Meanwhile, from another source, let's revisit those 'oldies but goodies' from the archives of FreePressInternational.com [link to www.freepressinternational.com]


"OTHERS Are Engaging Even In An Eco-Type Of Terrorism Whereby They Can Alter The Climate, Set Off Earthquakes, Volcanoes Remotely Through The Use Of Electromagnetic Waves."


scratching


DoD News Briefing Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen Monday, April 28, 1997 - 8:45 a.m. EDT


Cohen's keynote address at the Conference on Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and U.S. Strategy at the Georgia Center, Mahler Auditorium, University of Georgia, Athens, Ga. The event is part of the Sam Nunn Policy Forum being hosted by the University of Georgia. Secretary Cohen is joined by Sen. Sam Nunn and Sen. Richard G. Lugar.]

Secretary Cohen: Senator Nunn, thank you very much. As Senator Nunn has indicated, he and I have worked for many years together, along with Senator Lugar. The two of these gentlemen I feel are perhaps the most courageous and visionary to have served in the Senate. They were largely responsible, of course, for adopting the so-called Nunn/Lugar legislation.

I'll comment on that later during the course of the morning, but I've had occasion to meet with a number of Russian counterparts, and as we go through various translations of the communications that we're having, the two words they are able to articulate very clearly, they say 'Nunn/Lugar, Nunn/Lugar. So they know exactly what that means, and that means the Cooperative Thre'at Reduction Act that these two gentlemen were indispensable in shepherding through the United States Congress.

It was Nunn/Lugar I that dealt with the reduction of nuclear weapons between the United States and the Soviet Union in terms of trying to come to grips with how we helped the Russians dismantle hundreds of their nuclear weapons, and also helped them with their destruction of chemical weapons. But they, of course, have looked beyond simply that particular relationship, which is very important, but also looking to the future that we face as far as the rise of terrorism -- both international and domestic; and finding ways in which the Department of Defense can become involved in helping local states and local agencies to deal with the threat of terrorism which is quite likely to increase in the coming years.

It's a pleasure for me to be here. Both Senator Nunn and Senator Lugar are close friends and I look forward to, I think, a very productive seminar. Once again demonstrating that although Senator Nunn has left public service in the Senate, he has not left public service as far as the nation is concerned.

It's a pleasure for me to be here, Sam.

Senator Nunn: Thank you very much, Bill.

. ..Let me ask if there are any questions for Secretary of Defense Cohen.



Q: The dual containment policy in Iran and Iraq, do you think that's conducive to regional stability in that region? And do you think can cause further terrorism in the United States? That type of containment policy in the Middle East.

A: I think Secretary Albright articulated our policy as far as dealing with Iraq, that it's clear that we have been unable to strike any kind of a productive relationship with Saddam Hussein, and as soon as Saddam Hussein is no longer the head of that government, that there's new regime that follows him, that we will look forward to finding ways in which we could engage them in a much more productive fashion, particularly after they comply with all of the UN sanctions. There's an eagerness on our part to do that. But I think as long as he remains in office as the head of that state, it's unlikely that we could have anything but the current policy in place, with very little prospects for relief.

With respect to Iran, I think Iran continues to present a long term threat to the region. They are acquiring and have acquired weapons of mass destruction, substantial levels of chemicals and we believe biological weapons as well. They have made an effort to acquire nuclear capability. So I think that our policy of dual containment is the right one, and we are going to encourage our allies to support that one.



Q: What does it mean that Clinton (inaudible) proliferation?

A: To the extent that we see the level of communication available today, the Internet and other types of interwoven communicative skills and abilities, we're going to see information continue to spread as to how these weapons can be, in fact, manufactured in a home-grown laboratory, as such. So it's a serious problem as far as living in the information age that people who are acquiring this kind of information will not act responsibly, but rather act in a terrorist type of fashion.

We've seen by way of example of the World Trade Center the international aspects of international terrorism coming to our home territory. We've also seen domestic terrorism with the Oklahoma bombing. So it's a real threat that's here today. It's likely to intensify in the years to come as more and more groups have access to this kind of information and the ability to produce them.


Q: How prepared is the U.S. Government to deal with (inaudible)?

A: I think we have to really intensify our efforts. That's the reason for the Nunn/Lugar II program. That's the reason why it's a local responsibility, as such, but the Department of Defense is going to be taking the lead as far as supervising the interagency working groups, and to make the assessments as to what needs to be done. So we're going to identify those 120 cities and work with them very closely to make sure that they can prepare themselves for what is likely to be a threat well into the future.


Q: Let me ask you specifically about last week's scare here in Washington, and what we might have learned from how prepared we are to deal with that (inaudible), at B'nai Brith.

A: Well, it points out the nature of the threat. It turned out to be a false threat under the circumstances. But as we've learned in the intelligence community, we had something called -- and we have James Woolsey here to perhaps even address this question about phantom moles. The mere fear that there is a mole within an agency can set off a chain reaction and a hunt for that particular mole which can paralyze the agency for weeks and months and years even, in a search. The same thing is true about just the false scare of a threat of using some kind of a chemical weapon or a biological one. There are some reports, for example, that some countries have been trying to construct something like an Ebola Virus, and that would be a very dangerous phenomenon, to say the least. Alvin Toeffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic specific so that they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races; and others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops. Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.

So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important.


Q: What is response to (inaudible)?

A: We hope we will have access to the defector. In fact I was recently in South Korea and talked with various officials in South Korea. As soon as they complete their own interrogation of this defector, we will have access to that individual. But much of what he has said to date is reflected in the writings that he prepared last year. This is prior to his defection. One would not expect a potential defector to be writing about anything other than what the official doctrine or dogma is of the North Korean government at that time. He is saying essentially what we have known for a long, long time. Namely, that North Korea poses a very serious threat against South Korea, and potentially even Japan, by virtue of having the fourth largest army in the world, by having 600,000 or more troops poised within 100 kilometers of Seoul, of possessing many SCUD missiles, also the potential of chemically armed warheads, the attempt to acquire nuclear weapons. So we know they have this potential, and the question really is going to be what's in their hearts and minds at this point? Do they intend to try to launch such an attack in the immediate, foreseeable future? That we can only speculate about, but that's the reason why we are so well prepared to defend against such an attack to deter it; and to send a message that it would be absolutely an act of suicide for the North Koreans to launch an attack. They could do great damage in the short run, but they would be devastated in response. So we're hoping we can find ways to bring them to the bargaining table -- the Party of Four Talks -- and see if we can't put them on a path toward peace instead of threatening any kind of devastating attack upon the South.


Q: . ..a little bit about the situation in (inaudible)?

A: I really don't have much more information than has been in the press at this point. The Department has not been called upon to act in this regard just yet, so I'm not at liberty to give you any more information than you already have.


Q: . ..the Administration's plans to expand NATO to more European countries. Is there a terrorism element? Or will expanding NATO help you in any way in terms of (inaudible)? Or is it really unrelated?

A: I think the two are unrelated. There is a legitimate debate that will take place in terms of the pace of enlargement or whether there should be enlargement. Secretary Albright and I testified last week before the Senate Armed Services Committee, and it was a very, I think, productive debate. It's something that Senator Nunn, I think, feels very strongly about as well. The two of us, I think, found ourselves on the Senate Floor last year saying it was time for the American people to start debating this issue. So it's very important and there will be legitimate differences of opinion, but it's important that we bring this to the Senate for full debate and disclosure, and bring it to the American people. But I doubt if it's related to the spread of terrorism whatsoever.

Senator Nunn: Thank you very much.

US Department Of Defence
'Link, Copy, Paste, & Disseminate!'
SeeingThings
User ID: 74564
United States
04/01/2006 12:25 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DIVINE STRAKE: U.S. MILITARY PLAN TO DETONATE A 700-TON EXPLOSIVE CHARGE JUNE 2ND THAT COULD SEND A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER LAS VEGAS
Do any of you people live in Vegas? I do. I'm not looking forward to the mushroom cloud over my house and the rest of the city.
The govt sucks. The last time they were doing their fake war games, they ended up triggering some earthquakes here. Although small..around 4.5.
I wonder how much fun the 700 ton bomb will be.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 74915
United States
04/01/2006 12:33 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DIVINE STRAKE: U.S. MILITARY PLAN TO DETONATE A 700-TON EXPLOSIVE CHARGE JUNE 2ND THAT COULD SEND A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER LAS VEGAS
This is one instance where "size doesn't matter, its how you use it" really is true. lol

Remember, mass is power. One drop of water could create enough flash energy to power an entire city.

(e=mc sq)

sq mc/e

what happens there?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 20944
United States
04/01/2006 07:07 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DIVINE STRAKE: U.S. MILITARY PLAN TO DETONATE A 700-TON EXPLOSIVE CHARGE JUNE 2ND THAT COULD SEND A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER LAS VEGAS
dynamite
OhZone
User ID: 598
United States
04/01/2006 07:17 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DIVINE STRAKE: U.S. MILITARY PLAN TO DETONATE A 700-TON EXPLOSIVE CHARGE JUNE 2ND THAT COULD SEND A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER LAS VEGAS
Could this be the blast that sets of the predicted earthquake?

Is Western North America being Targeted by Scalar Weapons?
March 28, 2006


Within months, and possibly weeks, the northwestern coast of the United States will experience a tectonic and volcanic cataclysm quite unlike any other in recorded history. In the process, millions of people will die or be injured. The American economy will be shaken to its very foundations. In the process, a draconian form of martial law will be declared that will make our once cherished institute of constitutional democracy a thing of the past.
[link to www.weatherwars.info]
E_ABZU nli
User ID: 76598
Canada
04/01/2006 07:24 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DIVINE STRAKE: U.S. MILITARY PLAN TO DETONATE A 700-TON EXPLOSIVE CHARGE JUNE 2ND THAT COULD SEND A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER LAS VEGAS
BMG, don't you just love it when someone posts 'so' to your thread! To me, it is a sign that they do not understand.

Keep enlightening the sheep.
Agent Fescado

User ID: 26133
United States
04/01/2006 07:32 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DIVINE STRAKE: U.S. MILITARY PLAN TO DETONATE A 700-TON EXPLOSIVE CHARGE JUNE 2ND THAT COULD SEND A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER LAS VEGAS
trying to plan a vegas road trip just for the event... party on the strip. get pics and video.. should be great.

chorus

cheers
*yar har fiddley dee
plunder the market 'cause a pirate is free*

News








We're dropping truth bombs like it's the end of days!