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SOLVED !! JESUS WAS BORN ON THE 15TH OF TISHRI ! "NOT DEC 25TH"

 
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Now if this is true - even though anyone with half a brain knows Jesus wasn't born on the 25th December - doesn't it mean that all of the GODly amongst us have sold a lie to their children?

Doesn't it mean the churches are continuing a falsehood?

AND

If people are celebrating Jesus' birth on the 25th December aren't they deceiving?

What does the Bible say about deceivers and liars?

Why do you people think Jesus said

Matthew 20:16 So the last will be first, and the first last. For many are called, but few chosen.

AND

Matthew 19:30 But many who are first will be last, and the last first.

AND

Mark 10:31 But many that are first shall be last; and the last first.

AND

Luke 13:30 And, behold, there are last which shall be first, and there are first which shall be last.


Time for some soul searching people!

hf
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Yes I'm pretty sure most everyone knows that Dec 25 is pagan in nature, just like Sunday worship that most Christians keep today contrary to the plain word of God... Pagans LOVE the SUN and that's what they really worship!!
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"In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre."

"Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils."

"Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you."

"And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight."

"Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come."
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Now if this is true - even though anyone with half a brain knows Jesus wasn't born on the 25th December - doesn't it mean that all of the GODly amongst us have sold a lie to their children?

Doesn't it mean the churches are continuing a falsehood?

AND

If people are celebrating Jesus' birth on the 25th December aren't they deceiving?

What does the Bible say about deceivers and liars?

Why do you people think Jesus said

Matthew 20:16 So the last will be first, and the first last. For many are called, but few chosen.

AND

Matthew 19:30 But many who are first will be last, and the last first.

AND

Mark 10:31 But many that are first shall be last; and the last first.

AND

Luke 13:30 And, behold, there are last which shall be first, and there are first which shall be last.


Time for some soul searching people!

hf
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The original harlot or whore was the Catholic Church, who gave birth to all western religions. When Jesus said House will divide on house he meant the houses of God. Churches rob the very essence of Jesus. They make slaves out of men. They changed the image of Christ to appeal to Western Europeans. The church is not the bride, WE ARE. Churches do not unite they divide. Open your eyes and look around.

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But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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Never fear, the New Jerusalem calendar is here.
Jesus birthday is on the Feast of Trumpets Sept 1 (7/1)
[link to newjerusalemcalendar.com]

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Lol anyone who studies and knows the history of the church knows that Sunday worship came into christianity to accommodate the pagans and their sun worship
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Lol?

Wrong.
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Never fear, the New Jerusalem calendar is here.
Jesus birthday is on the Feast of Trumpets Sept 1 (7/1)
[link to newjerusalemcalendar.com]

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Re: SOLVED !! JESUS WAS BORN ON THE 15TH OF TISHRI ! "NOT DEC 25TH"
Now if this is true - even though anyone with half a brain knows Jesus wasn't born on the 25th December - doesn't it mean that all of the GODly amongst us have sold a lie to their children?

Doesn't it mean the churches are continuing a falsehood?

AND

If people are celebrating Jesus' birth on the 25th December aren't they deceiving?

What does the Bible say about deceivers and liars?

Why do you people think Jesus said

Matthew 20:16 So the last will be first, and the first last. For many are called, but few chosen.

AND

Matthew 19:30 But many who are first will be last, and the last first.

AND

Mark 10:31 But many that are first shall be last; and the last first.

AND

Luke 13:30 And, behold, there are last which shall be first, and there are first which shall be last.


Time for some soul searching people!

hf
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True to that but knowing the truth were to wean away from the falsehood and not be part of her sins.

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Christ's real birthday translated to our calender,
is April 6th.

However, he appreciates it when he is celebrated
no matter what day it is.
 Quoting: Janus198


That is not the point here and that is wrong also..you are brainwashed into payinghomeage to other Gods AND NOT GIVING the real God his due.All the holy feasts and shabbats are being replaced with paganism
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Trust me. I'm not wrong and it's not pagan.
(It's not possible that a person can celebrate
the birth of Christ and be pagan at the same time
anyway
)

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I guess that means in your mind that one can take a satanic human sacrifice ritual and say it's for Jesus and it's no longer evil or satanic? Do you know about the sex and orgies associated with December 25th? It's vile and disgusting and a total insult to associate with a prophet of God. His birthday should not matter nor be celebrated, he did not ask for nor teach his followers to worship him or his birthday, he said to worship and obey God. Birthdays as a whole as far as celebration is purely pagan just like Christmas complete with the Norse God SANTA. It's passive absent minded people like you who've diluted, defiled and ruined the Christian faith and the Prophet it was groomed after.
Feed the hungry, visit the sick, free a captive if he be unjustly confined(kidnapped/enslaved by someone). Assist any person oppressed, whether they're of the Muslim or non-Muslim. - Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wasallam)
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its been in your bible but they discourage you to read the old testament because it has the information in there to reveal their lies
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"They" who?
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Why don't you read the last part of the original post, and you will see who 'they' is.
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Did I ask you?

"They" who discourage me from reading the Old Testament?
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When is it wrong to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ?
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lol you're an idiot. jesus was a metaphor you child
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Jesus is a metaphor for the sun.12 deciples are the 12zodiac signs
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agree that Jesus was not born on dec 25, but go and get a KJV, throuw out your NKJV satanic version.
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THE MESSIAH WAS BORN MONTH OF TISHRI THE SEVENTH MONTH BETWEEN THE 15TH OF TISHRI TO THE 22ND TISHRI.THIS WILL BE DAY BETWEEN SEPTEMBER 16TH TO SEPTEMBER 26TH BASED ON THE ENOCH CALEDAR OF 364 DAYS IN A YEAR. YOUR BIBLE SHOWS THE TIME ALSO,THIS IS THE TIME CLOCK MESSIAH[YEHSHIYEH{JESUS} AND THEY WERE ON

The greeks and the Romans and the False Jews knew it all along but tricked you all again. Lets go back in time when Mary and Joseph and Mary were looking for an inn but they were all full. Let us see why.

Joseph and Mary went to Bethlehem just before Jesus was born to attend the Feast of Tabernacles, a commanded feast of the Bible.
And because the local government knew that most people would be attending this feast they held the census for tax purposes at the time.

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LET US BREAK THIS DOWN!

Gabriel talking to mary

36 Now indeed, Elizabeth your relative has also conceived a son in her old age; and this is now the sixth month for her who was called barren. 37 For with God nothing will be impossible."

38 Then Mary said, "Behold the maidservant of the Lord! Let it be to me according to your word." And the angel departed from her. (NKJV)


The Holy Spirit likely overshadowed Mary very soon after her encounter with the angel Gabriel. If John the Baptist was conceived in the two week period after Sivan 19, Jesus would have been conceived about six months later, at the end of the Hebrew month Kislev or the beginning of the month Tevet.

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Quickly after Gabriel's visit, Mary went to see her relative Elizabeth:

LUKE 1:39 Now Mary arose in those days and went into the hill country with haste, to a city of Judah,

40 and entered the house of Zacharias and greeted Elizabeth.

41 And it happened, when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, that the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. (NKJV)




LUKE 1:56 And Mary remained with her about three months, and returned to her house. (NKJV)


It appears that Mary stayed with Elizabeth right up to the time for her to give birth. The average time for the gestation of a human baby is nine months/40 weeks/280 days.

Nine months from the time of John's conception in early Tammuz would bring us to Passover of the Jewish year in the 1st month called Nisan. This Hebrew date fell in the month of March-April


LUKE 1:57 Now Elizabeth's full time came for her to be delivered, and she brought forth a son. (NKJV)



It's highly symbolic that John the Baptist was born at the time of Passover. Even to this very day, there is still an expectation by religious Jews of the coming of Elijah the prophet during the time of Passover (Mal. 4:5-6).

In fact, a cup is set for Elijah at the annual Passover seder, and children symbolically check for him at the door during the service.

As Gabriel prophesied and Jesus confirmed (Matt. 11:14), John the Baptist was the preliminary Elijah to come before the Messiah.

Signs in the heavens over Jerusalem on the 15th of Nisan in the Jewish year 3756 heralded the birth of John the Baptist. On that night, just after sunset, a spectacular lunar eclipse was visible from Jerusalem,


Since Messiah was conceived during feasts of dedication, six months after John the Baptist, he would also have been born six months after John:



HERE IS THE KEY

LUKE 2:1 And it came to pass in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered.

2 This census first took place while Quirinius was governing Syria.

3 So all went to be registered, everyone to his own city.

4 Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judea, to the city of David, which is called Bethlehem, because he was of the house and lineage of David,

5 to be registered with Mary, his betrothed wife, who was with child. 6 So it was, that while they were there, the days were completed for her to be delivered.

7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling cloths, and laid him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn. (NKJV)


Since John was born in Nisan Passover Feast, the 15th day of Nisan (the 1st Hebrew month), Messiah would have been born six months later on the in the month of Tishri (the 7th Hebrew month).september- october


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The 15th day of the 7th month begins the Feast of Tabernacles (Lev. 23:34-35), also known as Sukkot. Jesus was born on the 1st day of the Feast of Tabernacles! This fell in the month of September-october.



This explains why there was no room at the inn for Joseph and Mary. A multitude of Jewish pilgrims from all over the Middle East had come to Jerusalem to observe the Feast of Tabernacles, as God required (Deu. 16:16). Bethlehem, which was only a few miles outside of Jerusalem, was also overflowing with visitors at this time because of the Feast.

NOW I WILL GO TO THE GREEK ORIGINAL TRANSLATIONS AND PROVE TO YOU ONCE MORE THAT THEY ALL HAD THESE RECORDS..YOUR POPES AND PASTORS AND RABBIS HAD THE DATE OF CHRIST BIRTH AT HAND BUT NEVER TOLD YOU THE TRUTH.


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HERE IT IS LUKE CHAPTER 2:7 AND THE ORIGINAL GREEK TRANSLATION BELOW WITH THE DATE OF THE BIRTH

6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.
7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.

:pin:
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THOUGH THEY COULD HAVE TAUGHT IT LIKE I SHOWED IT THEY REFUSED TO AND GAVE YOU ANOTHER PAGAN FESTIVAL AND DECEPTION
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lol jesus is a fairy tale and was created by the vatican for you sheep. Christ= higher consciousness that's all.
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John the Baptist Conception Day is June 1 (4/1)
Jesus Conception Day is Dec 1 (10/1)
John the Baptist Birthday is Mar 1 (1/1)
Jesus Birthday is Sept 1 (7/1) the Feast of Trumpets

on the NEW JERUSALEM CALENDAR
[link to newjerusalemcalendar.com]


Wed Feb 12/6/12
 Quoting: Pope New Jerusalem Russ


CLOSE
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar

DAMN CLOSE LOL

I did this before seeing the above post.

If you count back 9 months that puts you back you end up in December, the month of conception and that is what God see as the beginning of His life as a man, ......

Pretty sure they wouldn't want it to be on a lunar solstice although the two important transitions were dividing the seasons into summer and winter.

It would also make sense for Rome to have people traveling after a dry summer rather than in the middle of winter when the roads may not have been worth traveling as it would take the whole summer to fill in the holes which inhibit the movement of materials and troops. The verses do say He was about 30 and the important part of that was when John was called because John was the last High Priest called by God making him equal to Aaron, the first Priest after Moses in terms of overall authority so he would have been the first that came out of the grave the same morning as Jesus along with 23 others that now have the title of 24 Elders. In terms of who His people are it is back to Joseph when their counting for resurrection comes as being made whole for the 1,000 year reign. Man will be back in the Kingdom of God as in the time of Noah. 1 day = 1,000 years. The time change came with the introduction of the 10 commandments and Jesus has authority over people and will until the 7th trump.

The Gospel of John (the Baptist) gives some events after the baptism and the return from the 40 days away that take maybe a month at most if it was a passover on a leap month so travel would be faster in theory. Then the 1st passover so Jesus could not have had a full 3 1/2 year ministry, but tag on the 6 months that John was older than Jesus and the time of the beginning of the covenant about the Messiah coming. Step 1 fulfill the prophecy that predicts that coming, for the Messiah it was witness and as Jesus was coming as a Priest He had to get it from a 'valid' High Priest and the baptism in the Jordan was washing what would become a blood sacrifice. For all other men baptism was the equal to repenting in the Churches.

Birthdays are marked in the OT from the day of circumcision if what I 'heard' is correct. (given a name and @ 30 days taken by Mary to be anointed and I assume recorded in some record.

For whatever reason celebrating it in the dead of winter brightens up what is a 'boring month', move all the summer ones and spread them out in the winter and every weekend would be when you work and take the rest of the week off. 6 months later it is the other way around and the other hemisphere has got the holyday season that you just had.

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This makes sense too.




You may be right but for all I know you may be wrong.
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Jesus is a metaphor for the sun.12 deciples are the 12zodiac signs
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YES YOU ARE RIGHT "ZEUS"


But had to use the word jesus here that people will relate
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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John the Baptist Conception Day is June 1 (4/1)
Jesus Conception Day is Dec 1 (10/1)
John the Baptist Birthday is Mar 1 (1/1)
Jesus Birthday is Sept 1 (7/1) the Feast of Trumpets

on the NEW JERUSALEM CALENDAR
[link to newjerusalemcalendar.com]


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Russ may be right....
“Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.” - Dr. Seuss
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John the Baptist Conception Day is June 1 (4/1)
Jesus Conception Day is Dec 1 (10/1)
John the Baptist Birthday is Mar 1 (1/1)
Jesus Birthday is Sept 1 (7/1) the Feast of Trumpets

on the NEW JERUSALEM CALENDAR
[link to newjerusalemcalendar.com]


Wed Feb 12/6/12
 Quoting: Pope New Jerusalem Russ


Russ may be right....
 Quoting: Kinga


Russ is wrong like a bong
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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OP, have you thought about the date of his conception based on this thoery you have ? Wouldn't it be around the end of July if I'm not mistaken ?
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no you follow the bible history I ahave not assumed anything.If you take time and follow it through you will see it.But if you are just looking for opinions and grabbing bit and peices of info to satisfy what you already be trained to believe, then you will not understand
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But I'm obviously here and listening , right ? So how trained am I ? You keep saying I'm looking for pieces of information to grab & satisfy or whatever it is your assuming.

Your hear to announce that you solved something that others haven't figured out and your acting like I'm supposed to already know this information that you just figured out or I guess I should only be skeptical of everyone here but you. your leaving put a lot of factors in your weird assumptions. It's making me less intrested in anything you have to say.
I wasn't here to debate you in the first place , I was actually intrested in your thoery and wanted to hear more about it but it's proving to be difficult and a waste of time.
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Jesus is a metaphor for the sun.12 deciples are the 12zodiac signs
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12 belongs to the 12 Tribes and that is who the writers of the Bible are. Gentiles number should be 7 for the 7 churches in Re:2 and 3. Do a different 1 each year and there is the 7 years and then you will be at peace with yourself and with others if you can get the good relationship (with others if the term God offends you)) Just a thought, give me an excuse to remap the sky and to tell you the truth how the current zodiac is something I could never come up with so whoever did had some pretty good shit. Goggle shy makes it a snap an fairly easy to convince others what you mean. lol
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Another great post...thanks. What version of the bible would you recommend one study? You speak of Rome and few jews but didn't they both have a large role in the translations of the bible?
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OP, have you thought about the date of his conception based on this thoery you have ? Wouldn't it be around the end of July if I'm not mistaken ?
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no you follow the bible history I ahave not assumed anything.If you take time and follow it through you will see it.But if you are just looking for opinions and grabbing bit and peices of info to satisfy what you already be trained to believe, then you will not understand
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But I'm obviously here and listening , right ? So how trained am I ? You keep saying I'm looking for pieces of information to grab & satisfy or whatever it is your assuming.

Your hear to announce that you solved something that others haven't figured out and your acting like I'm supposed to already know this information that you just figured out or I guess I should only be skeptical of everyone here but you. your leaving put a lot of factors in your weird assumptions. It's making me less intrested in anything you have to say.
I wasn't here to debate you in the first place , I was actually intrested in your thoery and wanted to hear more about it but it's proving to be difficult and a waste of time.
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The bible gave it to us but it is up to us to put it together.Many had this info but pushed it aside or confused it with theri own idealogies
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Jesus is a metaphor for the sun.12 deciples are the 12zodiac signs
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But can't both scenarios still be true ? Maybe Jesus was infact real but most of his history taught to us was false and the elites chose to take him & add 12 deciples to his story ?
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Another great post...thanks. What version of the bible would you recommend one study? You speak of Rome and few jews but didn't they both have a large role in the translations of the bible?
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You are welcome!
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Another great post...thanks. What version of the bible would you recommend one study? You speak of Rome and few jews but didn't they both have a large role in the translations of the bible?
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yes but the best is the coverdale tynsdale or martin luther bibles
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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I vote- April sixth....
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THE MESSIAH WAS BORN MONTH OF TISHRI THE SEVENTH MONTH BETWEEN THE 15TH OF TISHRI TO THE 22ND TISHRI.THIS WILL BE DAY BETWEEN SEPTEMBER 16TH TO SEPTEMBER 26TH BASED ON THE ENOCH CALEDAR OF 364 DAYS IN A YEAR. YOUR BIBLE SHOWS THE TIME ALSO,THIS IS THE TIME CLOCK MESSIAH[YEHSHIYEH{JESUS} AND THEY WERE ON

The greeks and the Romans and the False Jews knew it all along but tricked you all again. Lets go back in time when Mary and Joseph and Mary were looking for an inn but they were all full. Let us see why.

Joseph and Mary went to Bethlehem just before Jesus was born to attend the Feast of Tabernacles, a commanded feast of the Bible.
And because the local government knew that most people would be attending this feast they held the census for tax purposes at the time.

NMNHN:


LET US BREAK THIS DOWN!

Gabriel talking to mary

36 Now indeed, Elizabeth your relative has also conceived a son in her old age; and this is now the sixth month for her who was called barren. 37 For with God nothing will be impossible."

38 Then Mary said, "Behold the maidservant of the Lord! Let it be to me according to your word." And the angel departed from her. (NKJV)


The Holy Spirit likely overshadowed Mary very soon after her encounter with the angel Gabriel. If John the Baptist was conceived in the two week period after Sivan 19, Jesus would have been conceived about six months later, at the end of the Hebrew month Kislev or the beginning of the month Tevet.

FEASTSK

Quickly after Gabriel's visit, Mary went to see her relative Elizabeth:

LUKE 1:39 Now Mary arose in those days and went into the hill country with haste, to a city of Judah,

40 and entered the house of Zacharias and greeted Elizabeth.

41 And it happened, when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, that the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. (NKJV)




LUKE 1:56 And Mary remained with her about three months, and returned to her house. (NKJV)


It appears that Mary stayed with Elizabeth right up to the time for her to give birth. The average time for the gestation of a human baby is nine months/40 weeks/280 days.

Nine months from the time of John's conception in early Tammuz would bring us to Passover of the Jewish year in the 1st month called Nisan. This Hebrew date fell in the month of March-April


LUKE 1:57 Now Elizabeth's full time came for her to be delivered, and she brought forth a son. (NKJV)



It's highly symbolic that John the Baptist was born at the time of Passover. Even to this very day, there is still an expectation by religious Jews of the coming of Elijah the prophet during the time of Passover (Mal. 4:5-6).

In fact, a cup is set for Elijah at the annual Passover seder, and children symbolically check for him at the door during the service.

As Gabriel prophesied and Jesus confirmed (Matt. 11:14), John the Baptist was the preliminary Elijah to come before the Messiah.

Signs in the heavens over Jerusalem on the 15th of Nisan in the Jewish year 3756 heralded the birth of John the Baptist. On that night, just after sunset, a spectacular lunar eclipse was visible from Jerusalem,


Since Messiah was conceived during feasts of dedication, six months after John the Baptist, he would also have been born six months after John:



HERE IS THE KEY

LUKE 2:1 And it came to pass in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered.

2 This census first took place while Quirinius was governing Syria.

3 So all went to be registered, everyone to his own city.

4 Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judea, to the city of David, which is called Bethlehem, because he was of the house and lineage of David,

5 to be registered with Mary, his betrothed wife, who was with child. 6 So it was, that while they were there, the days were completed for her to be delivered.

7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling cloths, and laid him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn. (NKJV)


Since John was born in Nisan Passover Feast, the 15th day of Nisan (the 1st Hebrew month), Messiah would have been born six months later on the in the month of Tishri (the 7th Hebrew month).september- october


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The 15th day of the 7th month begins the Feast of Tabernacles (Lev. 23:34-35), also known as Sukkot. Jesus was born on the 1st day of the Feast of Tabernacles! This fell in the month of September-october.



This explains why there was no room at the inn for Joseph and Mary. A multitude of Jewish pilgrims from all over the Middle East had come to Jerusalem to observe the Feast of Tabernacles, as God required (Deu. 16:16). Bethlehem, which was only a few miles outside of Jerusalem, was also overflowing with visitors at this time because of the Feast.

NOW I WILL GO TO THE GREEK ORIGINAL TRANSLATIONS AND PROVE TO YOU ONCE MORE THAT THEY ALL HAD THESE RECORDS..YOUR POPES AND PASTORS AND RABBIS HAD THE DATE OF CHRIST BIRTH AT HAND BUT NEVER TOLD YOU THE TRUTH.


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HERE IT IS LUKE CHAPTER 2:7 AND THE ORIGINAL GREEK TRANSLATION BELOW WITH THE DATE OF THE BIRTH

6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.
7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.

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THOUGH THEY COULD HAVE TAUGHT IT LIKE I SHOWED IT THEY REFUSED TO AND GAVE YOU ANOTHER PAGAN FESTIVAL AND DECEPTION
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


I think most already know that Jesus was not born on December 25.
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THE MESSIAH WAS BORN MONTH OF TISHRI THE SEVENTH MONTH BETWEEN THE 15TH OF TISHRI TO THE 22ND TISHRI.THIS WILL BE DAY BETWEEN SEPTEMBER 16TH TO SEPTEMBER 26TH BASED ON THE ENOCH CALEDAR OF 364 DAYS IN A YEAR. YOUR BIBLE SHOWS THE TIME ALSO,THIS IS THE TIME CLOCK MESSIAH[YEHSHIYEH{JESUS} AND THEY WERE ON

The greeks and the Romans and the False Jews knew it all along but tricked you all again. Lets go back in time when Mary and Joseph and Mary were looking for an inn but they were all full. Let us see why.

Joseph and Mary went to Bethlehem just before Jesus was born to attend the Feast of Tabernacles, a commanded feast of the Bible.
And because the local government knew that most people would be attending this feast they held the census for tax purposes at the time.

NMNHN:


LET US BREAK THIS DOWN!

Gabriel talking to mary

36 Now indeed, Elizabeth your relative has also conceived a son in her old age; and this is now the sixth month for her who was called barren. 37 For with God nothing will be impossible."

38 Then Mary said, "Behold the maidservant of the Lord! Let it be to me according to your word." And the angel departed from her. (NKJV)


The Holy Spirit likely overshadowed Mary very soon after her encounter with the angel Gabriel. If John the Baptist was conceived in the two week period after Sivan 19, Jesus would have been conceived about six months later, at the end of the Hebrew month Kislev or the beginning of the month Tevet.

FEASTSK

Quickly after Gabriel's visit, Mary went to see her relative Elizabeth:

LUKE 1:39 Now Mary arose in those days and went into the hill country with haste, to a city of Judah,

40 and entered the house of Zacharias and greeted Elizabeth.

41 And it happened, when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, that the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. (NKJV)




LUKE 1:56 And Mary remained with her about three months, and returned to her house. (NKJV)


It appears that Mary stayed with Elizabeth right up to the time for her to give birth. The average time for the gestation of a human baby is nine months/40 weeks/280 days.

Nine months from the time of John's conception in early Tammuz would bring us to Passover of the Jewish year in the 1st month called Nisan. This Hebrew date fell in the month of March-April


LUKE 1:57 Now Elizabeth's full time came for her to be delivered, and she brought forth a son. (NKJV)



It's highly symbolic that John the Baptist was born at the time of Passover. Even to this very day, there is still an expectation by religious Jews of the coming of Elijah the prophet during the time of Passover (Mal. 4:5-6).

In fact, a cup is set for Elijah at the annual Passover seder, and children symbolically check for him at the door during the service.

As Gabriel prophesied and Jesus confirmed (Matt. 11:14), John the Baptist was the preliminary Elijah to come before the Messiah.

Signs in the heavens over Jerusalem on the 15th of Nisan in the Jewish year 3756 heralded the birth of John the Baptist. On that night, just after sunset, a spectacular lunar eclipse was visible from Jerusalem,


Since Messiah was conceived during feasts of dedication, six months after John the Baptist, he would also have been born six months after John:



HERE IS THE KEY

LUKE 2:1 And it came to pass in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered.

2 This census first took place while Quirinius was governing Syria.

3 So all went to be registered, everyone to his own city.

4 Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judea, to the city of David, which is called Bethlehem, because he was of the house and lineage of David,

5 to be registered with Mary, his betrothed wife, who was with child. 6 So it was, that while they were there, the days were completed for her to be delivered.

7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling cloths, and laid him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn. (NKJV)


Since John was born in Nisan Passover Feast, the 15th day of Nisan (the 1st Hebrew month), Messiah would have been born six months later on the in the month of Tishri (the 7th Hebrew month).september- october


pin
The 15th day of the 7th month begins the Feast of Tabernacles (Lev. 23:34-35), also known as Sukkot. Jesus was born on the 1st day of the Feast of Tabernacles! This fell in the month of September-october.



This explains why there was no room at the inn for Joseph and Mary. A multitude of Jewish pilgrims from all over the Middle East had come to Jerusalem to observe the Feast of Tabernacles, as God required (Deu. 16:16). Bethlehem, which was only a few miles outside of Jerusalem, was also overflowing with visitors at this time because of the Feast.

NOW I WILL GO TO THE GREEK ORIGINAL TRANSLATIONS AND PROVE TO YOU ONCE MORE THAT THEY ALL HAD THESE RECORDS..YOUR POPES AND PASTORS AND RABBIS HAD THE DATE OF CHRIST BIRTH AT HAND BUT NEVER TOLD YOU THE TRUTH.


pin
HERE IT IS LUKE CHAPTER 2:7 AND THE ORIGINAL GREEK TRANSLATION BELOW WITH THE DATE OF THE BIRTH

6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.
7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.

pin
polityu


THOUGH THEY COULD HAVE TAUGHT IT LIKE I SHOWED IT THEY REFUSED TO AND GAVE YOU ANOTHER PAGAN FESTIVAL AND DECEPTION
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


I think most already know that Jesus was not born on December 25.
 Quoting: PatiencePlz


yeah well time to leave the pagaism alone
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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THE MESSIAH WAS BORN MONTH OF TISHRI THE SEVENTH MONTH BETWEEN THE 15TH OF TISHRI TO THE 22ND TISHRI.THIS WILL BE DAY BETWEEN SEPTEMBER 16TH TO SEPTEMBER 26TH BASED ON THE ENOCH CALEDAR OF 364 DAYS IN A YEAR. YOUR BIBLE SHOWS THE TIME ALSO,THIS IS THE TIME CLOCK MESSIAH[YEHSHIYEH{JESUS} AND THEY WERE ON
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I don't think those who have researched the bible argue this at all. And I concur, Sept was his birth month.

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