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SOLVED !! JESUS WAS BORN ON THE 15TH OF TISHRI ! "NOT DEC 25TH"

 
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Yes, Jesus died around April/May of our calendar when he was 33 1/2 years old. So that would make his birth to be 6 months later around August/September.
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about and thank you
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its probably suffice to say that is was 33 and a third, not half.


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So Jesus was a Libra?
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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The goal of Christianity is unity with God. Truth is "quickened" (made alive) to a believer and it is "food" to the spirit man within us.

"We are living stones..shaped, formed and brought together by the quickened word of God.

I die daily..that's what the apostle said. You are a living sacrifice..you choose to stay on the altar as some entanglement with the world is stripped from you. More of Him..less of me.

Do you want to be transfigured as He was..or will you be naked and ashamed at His coming? I urge all here to seek the deeper things of God..the Holy Spirit will open the book. If you quibble about dates and times, you might miss the more important truths.

And you might fall away...
The fig that fails to ripen will surely fall away from the branch in the winter winds of tribulation...

which means..the Christian who fails to mature is like a hard green fig. When the winds come, such a unripe fig will be swept away from the branch which holds it. The branch is Jesus and the flow of divine interpretation which is food your spirit man must "eat" to strengthen you in those difficult times.

The bread of life..the manna of heaven..eat of the deep knowledge the Spirit of God makes alive to you. It is all too easy to drink of the waters of Babylon..to succumb to subtle poisonings of truth that is mixed with lies.

You are born again..born means you are a baby and you need to grow and mature..you must learn to discern good from evil. Everything in scripture has symbolic interpretation..deeper truths to consume. People with the mind of Christ are wells of living water in the spiritual desert. Learn from them..and ye shall be transformed by the word of God they reveal unto you.

Therefore do not let anyone judge you with respect to food or drink, or in the matter of a feast, new moon, or Sabbath days – these are only the shadow of the things to come, but the reality is Christ!
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The goal of Christianity is unity with God. Truth is "quickened" (made alive) to a believer and it is "food" to the spirit man within us.

"We are living stones..shaped, formed and brought together by the quickened word of God.

I die daily..that's what the apostle said. You are a living sacrifice..you choose to stay on the altar as some entanglement with the world is stripped from you. More of Him..less of me.

Do you want to be transfigured as He was..or will you be naked and ashamed at His coming? I urge all here to seek the deeper things of God..the Holy Spirit will open the book. If you quibble about dates and times, you might miss the more important truths.

And you might fall away...
The fig that fails to ripen will surely fall away from the branch in the winter winds of tribulation...

which means..the Christian who fails to mature is like a hard green fig. When the winds come, such a unripe fig will be swept away from the branch which holds it. The branch is Jesus and the flow of divine interpretation which is food your spirit man must "eat" to strengthen you in those difficult times.

The bread of life..the manna of heaven..eat of the deep knowledge the Spirit of God makes alive to you. It is all too easy to drink of the waters of Babylon..to succumb to subtle poisonings of truth that is mixed with lies.

You are born again..born means you are a baby and you need to grow and mature..you must learn to discern good from evil. Everything in scripture has symbolic interpretation..deeper truths to consume. People with the mind of Christ are wells of living water in the spiritual desert. Learn from them..and ye shall be transformed by the word of God they reveal unto you.

Therefore do not let anyone judge you with respect to food or drink, or in the matter of a feast, new moon, or Sabbath days – these are only the shadow of the things to come, but the reality is Christ!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29363518


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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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bsflag April 6th.
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THE MESSIAH WAS BORN MONTH OF TISHRI THE SEVENTH MONTH BETWEEN THE 15TH OF TISHRI TO THE 22ND TISHRI.THIS WILL BE DAY BETWEEN SEPTEMBER 16TH TO SEPTEMBER 26TH BASED ON THE ENOCH CALEDAR OF 364 DAYS IN A YEAR. YOUR BIBLE SHOWS THE TIME ALSO,THIS IS THE TIME CLOCK MESSIAH[YEHSHIYEH{JESUS} AND THEY WERE ON

The greeks and the Romans and the False Jews knew it all along but tricked you all again. Lets go back in time when Mary and Joseph and Mary were looking for an inn but they were all full. Let us see why.

Joseph and Mary went to Bethlehem just before Jesus was born to attend the Feast of Tabernacles, a commanded feast of the Bible.
And because the local government knew that most people would be attending this feast they held the census for tax purposes at the time.

:NMNHN::


LET US BREAK THIS DOWN!

Gabriel talking to mary

36 Now indeed, Elizabeth your relative has also conceived a son in her old age; and this is now the sixth month for her who was called barren. 37 For with God nothing will be impossible."

38 Then Mary said, "Behold the maidservant of the Lord! Let it be to me according to your word." And the angel departed from her. (NKJV)


The Holy Spirit likely overshadowed Mary very soon after her encounter with the angel Gabriel. If John the Baptist was conceived in the two week period after Sivan 19, Jesus would have been conceived about six months later, at the end of the Hebrew month Kislev or the beginning of the month Tevet.

:FEASTSK:

Quickly after Gabriel's visit, Mary went to see her relative Elizabeth:

LUKE 1:39 Now Mary arose in those days and went into the hill country with haste, to a city of Judah,

40 and entered the house of Zacharias and greeted Elizabeth.

41 And it happened, when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, that the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. (NKJV)




LUKE 1:56 And Mary remained with her about three months, and returned to her house. (NKJV)


It appears that Mary stayed with Elizabeth right up to the time for her to give birth. The average time for the gestation of a human baby is nine months/40 weeks/280 days.

Nine months from the time of John's conception in early Tammuz would bring us to Passover of the Jewish year in the 1st month called Nisan. This Hebrew date fell in the month of March-April


LUKE 1:57 Now Elizabeth's full time came for her to be delivered, and she brought forth a son. (NKJV)



It's highly symbolic that John the Baptist was born at the time of Passover. Even to this very day, there is still an expectation by religious Jews of the coming of Elijah the prophet during the time of Passover (Mal. 4:5-6).

In fact, a cup is set for Elijah at the annual Passover seder, and children symbolically check for him at the door during the service.

As Gabriel prophesied and Jesus confirmed (Matt. 11:14), John the Baptist was the preliminary Elijah to come before the Messiah.

Signs in the heavens over Jerusalem on the 15th of Nisan in the Jewish year 3756 heralded the birth of John the Baptist. On that night, just after sunset, a spectacular lunar eclipse was visible from Jerusalem,


Since Messiah was conceived during feasts of dedication, six months after John the Baptist, he would also have been born six months after John:



HERE IS THE KEY

LUKE 2:1 And it came to pass in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered.

2 This census first took place while Quirinius was governing Syria.

3 So all went to be registered, everyone to his own city.

4 Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judea, to the city of David, which is called Bethlehem, because he was of the house and lineage of David,

5 to be registered with Mary, his betrothed wife, who was with child. 6 So it was, that while they were there, the days were completed for her to be delivered.

7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling cloths, and laid him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn. (NKJV)


Since John was born in Nisan Passover Feast, the 15th day of Nisan (the 1st Hebrew month), Messiah would have been born six months later on the in the month of Tishri (the 7th Hebrew month).september- october


:pin:
The 15th day of the 7th month begins the Feast of Tabernacles (Lev. 23:34-35), also known as Sukkot. Jesus was born on the 1st day of the Feast of Tabernacles! This fell in the month of September-october.



This explains why there was no room at the inn for Joseph and Mary. A multitude of Jewish pilgrims from all over the Middle East had come to Jerusalem to observe the Feast of Tabernacles, as God required (Deu. 16:16). Bethlehem, which was only a few miles outside of Jerusalem, was also overflowing with visitors at this time because of the Feast.

NOW I WILL GO TO THE GREEK ORIGINAL TRANSLATIONS AND PROVE TO YOU ONCE MORE THAT THEY ALL HAD THESE RECORDS..YOUR POPES AND PASTORS AND RABBIS HAD THE DATE OF CHRIST BIRTH AT HAND BUT NEVER TOLD YOU THE TRUTH.


:pin:
HERE IT IS LUKE CHAPTER 2:7 AND THE ORIGINAL GREEK TRANSLATION BELOW WITH THE DATE OF THE BIRTH

6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.
7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.

:pin:
:polityu:


THOUGH THEY COULD HAVE TAUGHT IT LIKE I SHOWED IT THEY REFUSED TO AND GAVE YOU ANOTHER PAGAN FESTIVAL AND DECEPTION
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar



between these dates sep18 - sep29

with absolute certainty
 Quoting: Yemot Hamashiah 34728577

nonsense.That isnt what the Bible says but I know you all know more.The Bible shows that it was the 6th month that the angel came.Therefore in our timing He had to be borm May/June.
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Never fear, the New Jerusalem calendar is here.
Jesus birthday is on the Feast of Trumpets Sept 1 (7/1)
[link to newjerusalemcalendar.com]

Wed Feb 12/6/12
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nonsense
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lol you're an idiot. jesus was a metaphor you child
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rubbish.
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Jesus is a metaphor for the sun.12 deciples are the 12zodiac signs
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what nonsense.You listen to that idiot alan watt too much.
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Jesus is a metaphor for the sun.12 deciples are the 12zodiac signs
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what nonsense.You listen to that idiot alan watt too much.
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LUKE 1:26 Now in the sixth month [of Elizabeth's pregnancy] the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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THE MESSIAH WAS BORN MONTH OF TISHRI THE SEVENTH MONTH BETWEEN THE 15TH OF TISHRI TO THE 22ND TISHRI.THIS WILL BE DAY BETWEEN SEPTEMBER 16TH TO SEPTEMBER 26TH BASED ON THE ENOCH CALEDAR OF 364 DAYS IN A YEAR. YOUR BIBLE SHOWS THE TIME ALSO,THIS IS THE TIME CLOCK MESSIAH[YEHSHIYEH{JESUS} AND THEY WERE ON

The greeks and the Romans and the False Jews knew it all along but tricked you all again. Lets go back in time when Mary and Joseph and Mary were looking for an inn but they were all full. Let us see why.

Joseph and Mary went to Bethlehem just before Jesus was born to attend the Feast of Tabernacles, a commanded feast of the Bible.
And because the local government knew that most people would be attending this feast they held the census for tax purposes at the time.

NMNHN:


LET US BREAK THIS DOWN!

Gabriel talking to mary

36 Now indeed, Elizabeth your relative has also conceived a son in her old age; and this is now the sixth month for her who was called barren. 37 For with God nothing will be impossible."

38 Then Mary said, "Behold the maidservant of the Lord! Let it be to me according to your word." And the angel departed from her. (NKJV)


The Holy Spirit likely overshadowed Mary very soon after her encounter with the angel Gabriel. If John the Baptist was conceived in the two week period after Sivan 19, Jesus would have been conceived about six months later, at the end of the Hebrew month Kislev or the beginning of the month Tevet.

FEASTSK

Quickly after Gabriel's visit, Mary went to see her relative Elizabeth:

LUKE 1:39 Now Mary arose in those days and went into the hill country with haste, to a city of Judah,

40 and entered the house of Zacharias and greeted Elizabeth.

41 And it happened, when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, that the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. (NKJV)




LUKE 1:56 And Mary remained with her about three months, and returned to her house. (NKJV)


It appears that Mary stayed with Elizabeth right up to the time for her to give birth. The average time for the gestation of a human baby is nine months/40 weeks/280 days.

Nine months from the time of John's conception in early Tammuz would bring us to Passover of the Jewish year in the 1st month called Nisan. This Hebrew date fell in the month of March-April


LUKE 1:57 Now Elizabeth's full time came for her to be delivered, and she brought forth a son. (NKJV)



It's highly symbolic that John the Baptist was born at the time of Passover. Even to this very day, there is still an expectation by religious Jews of the coming of Elijah the prophet during the time of Passover (Mal. 4:5-6).

In fact, a cup is set for Elijah at the annual Passover seder, and children symbolically check for him at the door during the service.

As Gabriel prophesied and Jesus confirmed (Matt. 11:14), John the Baptist was the preliminary Elijah to come before the Messiah.

Signs in the heavens over Jerusalem on the 15th of Nisan in the Jewish year 3756 heralded the birth of John the Baptist. On that night, just after sunset, a spectacular lunar eclipse was visible from Jerusalem,


Since Messiah was conceived during feasts of dedication, six months after John the Baptist, he would also have been born six months after John:



HERE IS THE KEY

LUKE 2:1 And it came to pass in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered.

2 This census first took place while Quirinius was governing Syria.

3 So all went to be registered, everyone to his own city.

4 Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judea, to the city of David, which is called Bethlehem, because he was of the house and lineage of David,

5 to be registered with Mary, his betrothed wife, who was with child. 6 So it was, that while they were there, the days were completed for her to be delivered.

7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling cloths, and laid him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn. (NKJV)


Since John was born in Nisan Passover Feast, the 15th day of Nisan (the 1st Hebrew month), Messiah would have been born six months later on the in the month of Tishri (the 7th Hebrew month).september- october


pin
The 15th day of the 7th month begins the Feast of Tabernacles (Lev. 23:34-35), also known as Sukkot. Jesus was born on the 1st day of the Feast of Tabernacles! This fell in the month of September-october.



This explains why there was no room at the inn for Joseph and Mary. A multitude of Jewish pilgrims from all over the Middle East had come to Jerusalem to observe the Feast of Tabernacles, as God required (Deu. 16:16). Bethlehem, which was only a few miles outside of Jerusalem, was also overflowing with visitors at this time because of the Feast.

NOW I WILL GO TO THE GREEK ORIGINAL TRANSLATIONS AND PROVE TO YOU ONCE MORE THAT THEY ALL HAD THESE RECORDS..YOUR POPES AND PASTORS AND RABBIS HAD THE DATE OF CHRIST BIRTH AT HAND BUT NEVER TOLD YOU THE TRUTH.


pin
HERE IT IS LUKE CHAPTER 2:7 AND THE ORIGINAL GREEK TRANSLATION BELOW WITH THE DATE OF THE BIRTH

6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.
7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.

pin
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THOUGH THEY COULD HAVE TAUGHT IT LIKE I SHOWED IT THEY REFUSED TO AND GAVE YOU ANOTHER PAGAN FESTIVAL AND DECEPTION
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar



between these dates sep18 - sep29

with absolute certainty
 Quoting: Yemot Hamashiah 34728577

nonsense.That isnt what the Bible says but I know you all know more.The Bible shows that it was the 6th month that the angel came.Therefore in our timing He had to be borm May/June.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13813766


LUKE 1:26 Now in the sixth month [of Elizabeth's pregnancy] the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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I mean... Aren't we leaving the age of Pisces into Aquarius?

So, Jesus would of had to of been a Pisces.
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I mean... Aren't we leaving the age of Pisces into Aquarius?

So, Jesus would of had to of been a Pisces.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31480913


tomato
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Well done op
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you are welcome
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Jesus is a metaphor for the sun.12 deciples are the 12zodiac signs
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what nonsense.You listen to that idiot alan watt too much.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13813766


LUKE 1:26 Now in the sixth month [of Elizabeth's pregnancy] the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth
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show me where I can find Luke1:26
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Jesus is a metaphor for the sun.12 deciples are the 12zodiac signs
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what nonsense.You listen to that idiot alan watt too much.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13813766


LUKE 1:26 Now in the sixth month [of Elizabeth's pregnancy] the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar
show me where I can find Luke1:26
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sorry was reading Matthew
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I mean... Aren't we leaving the age of Pisces into Aquarius?

So, Jesus would of had to of been a Pisces.
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RIGHT?
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THE MESSIAH WAS BORN MONTH OF TISHRI THE SEVENTH MONTH BETWEEN THE 15TH OF TISHRI TO THE 22ND TISHRI.THIS WILL BE DAY BETWEEN SEPTEMBER 16TH TO SEPTEMBER 26TH BASED ON THE ENOCH CALEDAR OF 364 DAYS IN A YEAR. YOUR BIBLE SHOWS THE TIME ALSO,THIS IS THE TIME CLOCK MESSIAH[YEHSHIYEH{JESUS} AND THEY WERE ON

The greeks and the Romans and the False Jews knew it all along but tricked you all again. Lets go back in time when Mary and Joseph and Mary were looking for an inn but they were all full. Let us see why.

Joseph and Mary went to Bethlehem just before Jesus was born to attend the Feast of Tabernacles, a commanded feast of the Bible.
And because the local government knew that most people would be attending this feast they held the census for tax purposes at the time.

:NMNHN::


LET US BREAK THIS DOWN!

Gabriel talking to mary

36 Now indeed, Elizabeth your relative has also conceived a son in her old age; and this is now the sixth month for her who was called barren. 37 For with God nothing will be impossible."

38 Then Mary said, "Behold the maidservant of the Lord! Let it be to me according to your word." And the angel departed from her. (NKJV)


The Holy Spirit likely overshadowed Mary very soon after her encounter with the angel Gabriel. If John the Baptist was conceived in the two week period after Sivan 19, Jesus would have been conceived about six months later, at the end of the Hebrew month Kislev or the beginning of the month Tevet.

:FEASTSK:

Quickly after Gabriel's visit, Mary went to see her relative Elizabeth:

LUKE 1:39 Now Mary arose in those days and went into the hill country with haste, to a city of Judah,

40 and entered the house of Zacharias and greeted Elizabeth.

41 And it happened, when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, that the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. (NKJV)




LUKE 1:56 And Mary remained with her about three months, and returned to her house. (NKJV)


It appears that Mary stayed with Elizabeth right up to the time for her to give birth. The average time for the gestation of a human baby is nine months/40 weeks/280 days.

Nine months from the time of John's conception in early Tammuz would bring us to Passover of the Jewish year in the 1st month called Nisan. This Hebrew date fell in the month of March-April


LUKE 1:57 Now Elizabeth's full time came for her to be delivered, and she brought forth a son. (NKJV)



It's highly symbolic that John the Baptist was born at the time of Passover. Even to this very day, there is still an expectation by religious Jews of the coming of Elijah the prophet during the time of Passover (Mal. 4:5-6).

In fact, a cup is set for Elijah at the annual Passover seder, and children symbolically check for him at the door during the service.

As Gabriel prophesied and Jesus confirmed (Matt. 11:14), John the Baptist was the preliminary Elijah to come before the Messiah.

Signs in the heavens over Jerusalem on the 15th of Nisan in the Jewish year 3756 heralded the birth of John the Baptist. On that night, just after sunset, a spectacular lunar eclipse was visible from Jerusalem,


Since Messiah was conceived during feasts of dedication, six months after John the Baptist, he would also have been born six months after John:



HERE IS THE KEY

LUKE 2:1 And it came to pass in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered.

2 This census first took place while Quirinius was governing Syria.

3 So all went to be registered, everyone to his own city.

4 Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judea, to the city of David, which is called Bethlehem, because he was of the house and lineage of David,

5 to be registered with Mary, his betrothed wife, who was with child. 6 So it was, that while they were there, the days were completed for her to be delivered.

7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling cloths, and laid him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn. (NKJV)


Since John was born in Nisan Passover Feast, the 15th day of Nisan (the 1st Hebrew month), Messiah would have been born six months later on the in the month of Tishri (the 7th Hebrew month).september- october


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The 15th day of the 7th month begins the Feast of Tabernacles (Lev. 23:34-35), also known as Sukkot. Jesus was born on the 1st day of the Feast of Tabernacles! This fell in the month of September-october.



This explains why there was no room at the inn for Joseph and Mary. A multitude of Jewish pilgrims from all over the Middle East had come to Jerusalem to observe the Feast of Tabernacles, as God required (Deu. 16:16). Bethlehem, which was only a few miles outside of Jerusalem, was also overflowing with visitors at this time because of the Feast.

NOW I WILL GO TO THE GREEK ORIGINAL TRANSLATIONS AND PROVE TO YOU ONCE MORE THAT THEY ALL HAD THESE RECORDS..YOUR POPES AND PASTORS AND RABBIS HAD THE DATE OF CHRIST BIRTH AT HAND BUT NEVER TOLD YOU THE TRUTH.


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HERE IT IS LUKE CHAPTER 2:7 AND THE ORIGINAL GREEK TRANSLATION BELOW WITH THE DATE OF THE BIRTH

6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.
7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.

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THOUGH THEY COULD HAVE TAUGHT IT LIKE I SHOWED IT THEY REFUSED TO AND GAVE YOU ANOTHER PAGAN FESTIVAL AND DECEPTION
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar



between these dates sep18 - sep29

with absolute certainty
 Quoting: Yemot Hamashiah 34728577

nonsense.That isnt what the Bible says but I know you all know more.The Bible shows that it was the 6th month that the angel came.Therefore in our timing He had to be borm May/June.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13813766


LUKE 1:26 Now in the sixth month [of Elizabeth's pregnancy] the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar

Luke1:26 states And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,
YOU ADDED the rest to make it fit what you want it to say.
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The goal of Christianity is unity with God. Truth is "quickened" (made alive) to a believer and it is "food" to the spirit man within us.

"We are living stones..shaped, formed and brought together by the quickened word of God.

I die daily..that's what the apostle said. You are a living sacrifice..you choose to stay on the altar as some entanglement with the world is stripped from you. More of Him..less of me.

Do you want to be transfigured as He was..or will you be naked and ashamed at His coming? I urge all here to seek the deeper things of God..the Holy Spirit will open the book. If you quibble about dates and times, you might miss the more important truths.

And you might fall away...
The fig that fails to ripen will surely fall away from the branch in the winter winds of tribulation...

which means..the Christian who fails to mature is like a hard green fig. When the winds come, such a unripe fig will be swept away from the branch which holds it. The branch is Jesus and the flow of divine interpretation which is food your spirit man must "eat" to strengthen you in those difficult times.

The bread of life..the manna of heaven..eat of the deep knowledge the Spirit of God makes alive to you. It is all too easy to drink of the waters of Babylon..to succumb to subtle poisonings of truth that is mixed with lies.

You are born again..born means you are a baby and you need to grow and mature..you must learn to discern good from evil. Everything in scripture has symbolic interpretation..deeper truths to consume. People with the mind of Christ are wells of living water in the spiritual desert. Learn from them..and ye shall be transformed by the word of God they reveal unto you.

Therefore do not let anyone judge you with respect to food or drink, or in the matter of a feast, new moon, or Sabbath days – these are only the shadow of the things to come, but the reality is Christ!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29363518


?
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


What do you wish to know

And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.....And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
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between these dates sep18 - sep29

with absolute certainty
 Quoting: Yemot Hamashiah 34728577

nonsense.That isnt what the Bible says but I know you all know more.The Bible shows that it was the 6th month that the angel came.Therefore in our timing He had to be borm May/June.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13813766


LUKE 1:26 Now in the sixth month [of Elizabeth's pregnancy] the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar

Luke1:26 states And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,
YOU ADDED the rest to make it fit what you want it to say.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13813766


24 And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, and hid herself five months, saying,
25 Thus hath the Lord dealt with me in the days wherein he looked on me, to take away my reproach among men.

26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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The goal of Christianity is unity with God. Truth is "quickened" (made alive) to a believer and it is "food" to the spirit man within us.

"We are living stones..shaped, formed and brought together by the quickened word of God.

I die daily..that's what the apostle said. You are a living sacrifice..you choose to stay on the altar as some entanglement with the world is stripped from you. More of Him..less of me.

Do you want to be transfigured as He was..or will you be naked and ashamed at His coming? I urge all here to seek the deeper things of God..the Holy Spirit will open the book. If you quibble about dates and times, you might miss the more important truths.

And you might fall away...
The fig that fails to ripen will surely fall away from the branch in the winter winds of tribulation...

which means..the Christian who fails to mature is like a hard green fig. When the winds come, such a unripe fig will be swept away from the branch which holds it. The branch is Jesus and the flow of divine interpretation which is food your spirit man must "eat" to strengthen you in those difficult times.

The bread of life..the manna of heaven..eat of the deep knowledge the Spirit of God makes alive to you. It is all too easy to drink of the waters of Babylon..to succumb to subtle poisonings of truth that is mixed with lies.

You are born again..born means you are a baby and you need to grow and mature..you must learn to discern good from evil. Everything in scripture has symbolic interpretation..deeper truths to consume. People with the mind of Christ are wells of living water in the spiritual desert. Learn from them..and ye shall be transformed by the word of God they reveal unto you.

Therefore do not let anyone judge you with respect to food or drink, or in the matter of a feast, new moon, or Sabbath days – these are only the shadow of the things to come, but the reality is Christ!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29363518


?
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


What do you wish to know

And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.....And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29363518


ok
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Christ's real birthday translated to our calender,
is April 6th.

However, he appreciates it when he is celebrated
no matter what day it is.
 Quoting: Janus198


Really?

Show me the chapter and verse to backup your outrageous claim.
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bsflag April 6th.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26682771


oh wel
RUFFLE
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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What cult are you in? SDA?
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Who cares? I would like to have your sorrows.
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What cult are you in? SDA?
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the teachings are cultic?
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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wrong

hes born in May/June

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34874799


scripture and verse please
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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A good morning bump to a friend and brother
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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Well done op
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26609191


Well done, too. But the date is given in Urantia Book already, except they don't give which calendar, Julian/Gregorian.

But, hey, dating is fun!

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