SOLVED !! JESUS WAS BORN ON THE 15TH OF TISHRI ! "NOT DEC 25TH"

I concur

Op you will be blessed and I thank you ever do much. You do work hard for the salvation of many but they do not see.

There's a karma pin, Neim. I always enjoy your posts. You are a rarity on here, a bible scholar amongst a sea of bible parrots.

Last Edited by Gigolo Jesus on 02/20/2013 06:45 PM

Why would anyone care?

The Church picked Dec 25 because it was a pagan holiday.. more converts.
Duh

Do you really think Rome is going to change it now?
I don't think so.

According to this:
[link to www.mechon-mamre.org]

Last year (2012) 15 Tishri was October 1st

This year:
[link to www.timeanddate.com]

Sould be 19 of September.

Trust me. I'm not wrong and it's not pagan.
(It's not possible that a person can celebrate
the birth of Christ and be pagan at the same time
anyway)

If you want a simple reference:
There is no such thing as coincidence.
Lamb of God.
Think about it.
Then think further.

Yes I'm pretty sure most everyone knows that Dec 25 is pagan in nature, just like Sunday worship that most Christians keep today contrary to the plain word of God... Pagans LOVE the SUN and that's what they really worship!!

When Jesus was born, people were eating dates. Dates on grow in the summer months

Bless you and what the Holy Spirit has shown to you. Blessed be the name of the Lord. Halleluyah!!! I hear the truth in this!

don't be all butthurt over it

Been reading your posts for a little while now OP.

God bless you my brother !

His light shines through your works.

Thank you for helping me (and many others) who seek the truth and the righteous path !

Lol anyone who studies and knows the history of the church knows that Sunday worship came into christianity to accommodate the pagans and their sun worship

25 December is the real day Jesus was born
SF. John Chrysostom: WORD about Nativity
St. John Chrysostom: "I have three proofs, of which we know that it is time for the birth of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Word of God. Star has brought the Magi from the East, commanded Caesar led her parents Mary to the city, which was called by the prophets as the birthplace of Christ .... But they can still be clarified, evidence that day is today is truly Christ's birthday, please take in mind, for things that happened a long time wish to return them in our memory and bring the old laws to make proof of what I say ... So if once a year at the feast of tabernacles high priest enters the Holy of Holies to show now that when the angel appeared to Zechariah just when he was in the Holy of Holies, as it's shown only when he incense .... It was during the Feast of Tabernacles and the station, because the latter is meant by the words, 'You shall afflict your souls. " And the celebration was done to the Jews by the end of September. So when Elizabeth conceived. Now is the time to show that in the sixth month of Elizabeth wore in her womb when John, Mary received the announcement with joy and conceived well. Now that is Gabriel came to her and said: "Fear not, Mary, that I had learned grace from God. And behold, you will conceive in your womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus. "(Luke I, 30). When she was amazed and asked, how is this possible? The angel answered and said, Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the above shall overshadow thee: therefore also right to be born of thee Spirit is calling you Son of God. And here Elisafta, your family and the child she conceived in her bătrâneţele, and this is the sixth month with her that is called barren. Impossible that God does not every word. "So if Elizabeth had conceived in September, Mary conceived the sixth month later, in March and if we add further nine months before the birth of Christ to reach the moon December, which celebrate this day. We previously showed what was said about this day ... "And later St. John Damascene (dogma)" At the time of birth of the flesh, loving people and saving God, who for us was made, a star appeared to the Magi ( Matthew II, 2) [3], which was first made of stars. And this is obvious from the fact that the star went from east to west, from north to south when when hiding, it appears, is not an order and nature of the stars. "In connection with the star of Bethlehem, St. John Chrysostom Gold has developed extensive her problem in several homilies: "Again Jesus being born in Vithleemul Jews, in the days of Herod the king, behold, the sunrises sorcerers came to Jerusalem, saying," Where is He who has been born king of Jews ? I have seen his star in the east and have come to worship him. '"(Matthew II, 1-2). We need more vigils, many prayers, that we may interpret this story, to find out who were these wise men, they came from what cause, what she did finally come and what's with this star. But rather, if you want to talk first of those enemies say the truth. So much that the devil turned them against us, and of this story that tries to arms against the truth. But not flock confusion and perplexity over you dizzy, let's undo the problems posed by star birth. If we find that star was where it was, if it was a star or many stars other than the other, if it was a real star and only one apparent, we will easily understand everything. - How do we get answers to these questions? - Even in the written Gospel. That was one of the many stars, but rather, in my opinion, there was no star, but an unseen power which took the form of a star, you can see her walking in the first place. There is not any star to go on asking how did this star, we see that the sun and moon and all the stars go from sunrise to sunset, star it, but going from north to south, as it Palestine is against Persia. In the second place, and the time in which we can see that the star appeared it was one of many stars. Not see at night, but great namiaza day when the sun shone, power that will have no stars, nor the moon, the moon than all the other stars in brightness, but when the sun arise, hides and disappears immediately. Star this, however, by the size of his brilliance, he overcame and sunlight, shone stronger than them, stronger light, though differently. Third, it shows that it was not one of the other stars that appear and then disappear again. On the road to Palestine show star leading the Magi, when they arrived in Jerusalem to hide, then again, when the Magi left Herod, after I had said that the reason came and went, and the star appeared, and this may not be the natural movement of a star but a reason endowed with special powers. He did not have his own way, went the Magi had to go, when they stood, and she stood, served all needful. Was the pillar of cloud in the wilderness camp Jews stopped and the tool when needed (Exit XIII, 21-22 [4]). Fourth, we can see that it was not a star like other stars in the image showed the place where the Child was born. He never showed up instead of leaving the sky - in fact could not place left to show up - but the descending shown below. Just know that the place was so small as could fit a hut, but rather, as a child could fit body, and an ordinary star could not show such a place because a star is a huge height and not may look so small a place or make him known to those who want to find. Of it can you entrust looking at month, though is much higher than the stars still seems to be close to all the world's inhabitants spread over a large expanse of land so. Tell me, please, how could place star look so narrow hut of the manger and the height would be leaving Therefore, it would not be down below and I would have been even overhead Baby ? This leaves evangelist to understand when he says: "And behold, the star which they saw in the east before pre bringing them up viind stood over where it was cocoon." (Matthew II, 9) ... See, but one reason we show that this star was not one of the many stars of heaven, and that she appeared under the law governing the creation seen .... "And behold, the star which they saw in the east, before pre bringing them" (Matthew II, 9). That's what he went into hiding star as magicians, losing guide, be forced to ask the Jews and to make known to all Christ's birth. After having been asked teachers the enemies of Christ, and the star appeared .... I should therefore like star to go even birthplace. Therefore, as soon as they came out of Jerusalem the star appeared and did not stop before arriving at the manger birth. Miracle followed miracle. Both were full of wonder: and worship Merger Magi and the star before them, were plentiful to attract even those completely harden the heart ... More: the star is over Babe, the star stopped. And as a star, when to hide, when to show up and finally stop after and explained, means he was a star with more power than a normal star ... And when the star stopped just above his head Child, showing that it is divine Child. Stopping the star led them to worship the Child, not mere barbarians, but some of the wisest of barbarians. See what has got big star? In addition prophecy and chief priests and scribes interpretation, the Magi gave attention to star ... (Discussion about the Star of Bethlehem are brought evidence against supporters of astrology)

15 Tishrei - (4 BCE, 3758 AM) - Jesus born
Hebrew known as the Mosiach in Christianity born on Sukkot.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Now, what I wonder is this: if last year 15 Tishri was October 1st and this year should be 19th of September, it seems to be that the Jewish calendar (compared to the gregorian calendar) is more inexact, since the margin of error of the position of the earth in space for the same date in the jewish calendar is greater than the Gregorian Calendar. In other words, in the gregorian calendar, we can consider that earth was in this point in space a year ago (with some error) but with the jewish calendar, for a same given date, earth occupies another position altogether different (the position earth was 10 days before the previous year for instance).

the days are changing around because of the calendars in use now they went astray from the regular 364 day calendar ,,bothe the fasle jews and the romans

follow this thread is pretty detailed and long

Thread: SHABBAT SHALOM! THE LUNAR SHABBAT DEBUNKED! IT IS NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH CREATION! BROKEN DOWN FOR YOU IN 7 PARTS

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 02/20/2013 07:42 PM

Neim

You keep revealing lie after bloody lie. You have the true gift my brother, and I am so grateful for you.

thank you and I always bring the word and proof not my opinion or other mens articles..I appreciate you

Janus I am not here to convert you but I broght this stuff from the holy books and it stands

thank you

thank you smoking jesus I appreciate that lol

I am thankful that you came along when I was about to pack it in..I appreciate you very much

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 02/20/2013 07:34 PM

Thank you for the info friend I will send you something to follow because thei is just a spinoff to what I started on "the time"

Thread: SHABBAT SHALOM! THE LUNAR SHABBAT DEBUNKED! IT IS NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH CREATION! BROKEN DOWN FOR YOU IN 7 PARTS

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 02/20/2013 07:37 PM

thank you very much again..you will be rewarded for your act

How many times will you idiots keep telling people it's not Dec. 25th - thinking we will gasp and roll up the Christmas lights?

Guess what - WE DON'T CARE.

Plus, I would absolutely LOVE it if your kind actually found out it WAS December 25th when you get to the other side - and get a really hard V-8 slap. I never really cared when it was before, but now I do just because your type irritate me.

Shaddup.

hmmm .. what should we tell St.Claus now ?

Yes, and Jesus always made a point to say how much more he loved the scholars than regular folks with the faith of little children.

So...

Does that make Jesus a Virgo?

what we should have a long time ago....lol

Wow...You are a true light bringer, Neim. I thank you for all your hard work, and the bringing down of all unrighteous lies.


I was banned yesterday for quoting Leviticus 13:30-13:31

Which helps us to understand the signs that a priest is to look for, to reveal Leprosy.

I also started a thread, titled "GLP has a racist agenda against Negros, and I have proof!" It was deleted within seconds...

I then listed 9 threads, with racist titles, posted within 3 minutes, after my own.

Two were even similar, both started with "Blacks IQ", and ended with Kim Kardashian!

I was shocked at the response I got from GLP, an immediate ban, and all my informative, and well put together threads were 1 starred before I could even receive 6 replies...

How do you feel about the 2 passages listed above Neim?