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The Coming Celestial Convergence - Solar Storms, Electrical Grids, and Our Ancient History

 
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"The decreases were focused in regions that serve as crossroads for information in the brain, meaning that information may flow more freely in a brain on mushrooms. The findings could be useful in developing hallucinogenic treatments for some mental disorders."
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disorder i.e

“Evil is not the manifestation of an evil deity nor a sign of gods vengeance, ect., but an analog in the lower, or microcosom, of the difficulty in the macrocosom or pleroma. The yin aspect has exceded its proper limits, perhaps as an oscillation of a great supertemporal cycle, and rectification is already in progress.” -philip k. dick
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Walter Russell believed that mankind creates evil. That 'evil' doesn't exist except within the human condition, out of our own creation. I tend to agree with him.
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Yes I believe that as well.
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as above : so below, boyz

God is not perfect

God is God
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study the tarot: no evil there.

tizz sickness and usually wanton.

is a malignancy evil? no
should it be healed? yes
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pretty common knowledge among our type...
the old cave paintings and carvings from all over the world... showing the famous plasma discharges
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when the cogs are in place.. fucking voodoo magiiik
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Pardon my ignorance, but what do the two orb shapes adjacent to the torsos of all the "stickmen" represent seen in all the linked petroglyphs?
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Yep. Plasma discharge. Imagine a cross section of a donut. Those are the two circles on either side, with a plasma column going up through the center of the donuts. You can kind of see it in my sig picture of the Vajra as well.
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Thanks. It makes sense now.
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when the cogs are in place.. fucking voodoo magiiik
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Pardon my ignorance, but what do the two orb shapes adjacent to the torsos of all the "stickmen" represent seen in all the linked petroglyphs?
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Yep. Plasma discharge. Imagine a cross section of a donut. Those are the two circles on either side, with a plasma column going up through the center of the donuts. You can kind of see it in my sig picture of the Vajra as well.
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Thanks. It makes sense now.
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:squatmanplasma:
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The only problem with this is that the only places where you can find a "squat man plasma" image is on conspiracy theory sites that don't show their sources, making the claim impossible to validate.
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 Quoting: Septenary Man

The only problem with this is that the only places where you can find a "squat man plasma" image is on conspiracy theory sites that don't show their sources, making the claim impossible to validate.
[link to www.google.ca (secure)]
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So, you are saying the Thunderbolts website is a conspiracy website?

lmao

And, you are saying Dr Anthony Peratt from Jet Propulsion Labs created this specific conspiracy?

You haven't done much homework have you?

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You obviously have not followed the breakthroughs in plasma research.
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So, you are saying the Thunderbolts website is a conspiracy website?

lmao

And, you are saying Dr Anthony Peratt from Jet Propulsion Labs created this specific conspiracy?

You haven't done much homework have you?

churchlady

You obviously have not followed the breakthroughs in plasma research.
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Anything talking about "electric universe" is absolutely pseudo-science, placing it firmly in the realm of conspiracy theory land.

As for Dr. Anthony Peratt, can you point me to the paper where he published the "squat man plasma" images? The conspiracy sites make much reference about it, but none link to it (typical for conspiracy site) and I can't find it even on his own site. If he were so obsessed with this theory, I would expect more than one image posted across multiple sites on the Internet. Sounds more to me like it was some sort of passing musing on his part that pseudo-science has latched onto.
[link to plasmauniverse.info]
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So, you are saying the Thunderbolts website is a conspiracy website?

lmao

And, you are saying Dr Anthony Peratt from Jet Propulsion Labs created this specific conspiracy?

You haven't done much homework have you?

churchlady

You obviously have not followed the breakthroughs in plasma research.
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Anything talking about "electric universe" is absolutely pseudo-science, placing it firmly in the realm of conspiracy theory land.

As for Dr. Anthony Peratt, can you point me to the paper where he published the "squat man plasma" images? The conspiracy sites make much reference about it, but none link to it (typical for conspiracy site) and I can't find it even on his own site. If he were so obsessed with this theory, I would expect more than one image posted across multiple sites on the Internet. Sounds more to me like it was some sort of passing musing on his part that pseudo-science has latched onto.
[link to plasmauniverse.info]
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Here ya go. Again, all you have to do is a little research instead of going to all these conspiracy sites you frequent trying to find it.
[link to www.scribd.com]

So, again, you are saying Dr. Anthony Peratt started this 'conspiracy'? Why would he do that in your opinion?

I like how you are playing the shill, because you are doing a terrible job. Electric/Plasma Universe models are pseudo-science? And yet, those models show more real-world applications than your classical models.
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Here ya go. Again, all you have to do is a little research instead of going to all these conspiracy sites you frequent trying to find it.
[link to www.scribd.com]
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That's only the first 2 pages. Where is the entire paper? I have no desire to pay $15 just to find that all of this squat man/plasma discharge pseudo-science is based on 2 sentences out of a paper.

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Here ya go. Again, all you have to do is a little research instead of going to all these conspiracy sites you frequent trying to find it.
[link to www.scribd.com]
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That's only the first 2 pages. Where is the entire paper?
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Did you try to scroll?

Try this, or Google

1192 IEEE TRANSACTIONS ON PLASMA SCIENCE, VOL. 31, NO. 6, DECEMBER 2003
Characteristics for the Occurrence of a High-Current,Z-Pinch Aurora as Recorded in Antiquity
Anthony L. Peratt, Fellow, IEEE

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Then, you can go away if you consider it pseudo science, as your own paradigm has you in its death grip.
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Here ya go. Again, all you have to do is a little research instead of going to all these conspiracy sites you frequent trying to find it.
[link to www.scribd.com]
 Quoting: Septenary Man

That's only the first 2 pages. Where is the entire paper?
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Did you try to scroll?
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Yup. No squatman images in the first 2 pages.
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Here ya go. Again, all you have to do is a little research instead of going to all these conspiracy sites you frequent trying to find it.
[link to www.scribd.com]
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That's only the first 2 pages. Where is the entire paper?
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Did you try to scroll?

Try this, or Google

1192 IEEE TRANSACTIONS ON PLASMA SCIENCE, VOL. 31, NO. 6, DECEMBER 2003
Characteristics for the Occurrence of a High-Current,Z-Pinch Aurora as Recorded in Antiquity
Anthony L. Peratt, Fellow, IEEE

[link to www.scribd.com]

Then, you can go away if you consider it pseudo science, as your own paradigm has you in its death grip.
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Phoomp, after reading that article, if you still think it is all 'pseudo-science', then we will just part ways, as there is no way either of us are going to agree. Since you refuse to believe science experiments of plasma and its theories in relation to cosmological models are 'pseudo-science' (even though it has proven scientific experiments to validate the work)...well, we just have no where else to go in discussion.

Agree to disagree.
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Here ya go. Again, all you have to do is a little research instead of going to all these conspiracy sites you frequent trying to find it.
[link to www.scribd.com]
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That's only the first 2 pages. Where is the entire paper?
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Did you try to scroll?

Try this, or Google

1192 IEEE TRANSACTIONS ON PLASMA SCIENCE, VOL. 31, NO. 6, DECEMBER 2003
Characteristics for the Occurrence of a High-Current,Z-Pinch Aurora as Recorded in Antiquity
Anthony L. Peratt, Fellow, IEEE

[link to www.scribd.com]

Then, you can go away if you consider it pseudo science, as your own paradigm has you in its death grip.
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It's not my job to try and prove your points for you, if you can't prove your own points without whining about shills.
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Phoomp, after reading that article, if you still think it is all 'pseudo-science', then we will just part ways, as there is no way either of us are going to agree. Since you refuse to believe science experiments of plasma and its theories in relation to cosmological models are 'pseudo-science' (even though it has proven scientific experiments to validate the work)...well, we just have no where else to go in discussion.

Agree to disagree.
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The paper you linked to has nothing to do with Plasma Discharge and Squat Man images.
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That's only the first 2 pages. Where is the entire paper?
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Did you try to scroll?

Try this, or Google

1192 IEEE TRANSACTIONS ON PLASMA SCIENCE, VOL. 31, NO. 6, DECEMBER 2003
Characteristics for the Occurrence of a High-Current,Z-Pinch Aurora as Recorded in Antiquity
Anthony L. Peratt, Fellow, IEEE

[link to www.scribd.com]

Then, you can go away if you consider it pseudo science, as your own paradigm has you in its death grip.
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It's not my job to try and prove your points for you, if you can't prove your own points without whining about shills.
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Yeah, but it's my job to prove my points for you. Whatever. You come on the thread and say it is all BS, and ask me to provide information, instead of researching it yourself.

Kind of a double standard, huh? It's not your job to prove your points to me, but it is my job to prove my points to you.

1dunno1

That kind of mindset makes absolutely no sense to me. Watch, I'm going to prove my point in the next post.
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Phoomp, after reading that article, if you still think it is all 'pseudo-science', then we will just part ways, as there is no way either of us are going to agree. Since you refuse to believe science experiments of plasma and its theories in relation to cosmological models are 'pseudo-science' (even though it has proven scientific experiments to validate the work)...well, we just have no where else to go in discussion.

Agree to disagree.
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It's not agree to disagree. You are unable to present any primary sources suggesting a connection between plasma discharge and squat man images. Your only sources so far reference a primary source that cannot be verified.

This is the fundamental problem with pseudo-science ... the claims always fall apart under investigation.
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So, you are saying the Thunderbolts website is a conspiracy website?

lmao

And, you are saying Dr Anthony Peratt from Jet Propulsion Labs created this specific conspiracy?

You haven't done much homework have you?

churchlady

You obviously have not followed the breakthroughs in plasma research.
 Quoting: Septenary Man

Anything talking about "electric universe" is absolutely pseudo-science, placing it firmly in the realm of conspiracy theory land.

As for Dr. Anthony Peratt, can you point me to the paper where he published the "squat man plasma" images? The conspiracy sites make much reference about it, but none link to it (typical for conspiracy site) and I can't find it even on his own site. If he were so obsessed with this theory, I would expect more than one image posted across multiple sites on the Internet. Sounds more to me like it was some sort of passing musing on his part that pseudo-science has latched onto.
[link to plasmauniverse.info]
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It's not my job to try and prove your points for you, if you can't prove your own points without whining about shills.


Here ya go. Again, all you have to do is a little research instead of going to all these conspiracy sites you frequent trying to find it.
[link to www.scribd.com]
 Quoting: Septenary Man

That's only the first 2 pages. Where is the entire paper? I have no desire to pay $15 just to find that all of this squat man/plasma discharge pseudo-science is based on 2 sentences out of a paper.
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It's not my job to try and prove your points for you, if you can't prove your own points without whining about shills.
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Yeah, but it's my job to prove my points for you. Whatever.
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If you're going to make a claim, you must be prepared to defend it with research. THAT'S science.

Pseudo-science makes claims, but refuses to defend those claims, and instead tells anyone questioning the claim to go and do their own research.
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Phoomp, after reading that article, if you still think it is all 'pseudo-science', then we will just part ways, as there is no way either of us are going to agree. Since you refuse to believe science experiments of plasma and its theories in relation to cosmological models are 'pseudo-science' (even though it has proven scientific experiments to validate the work)...well, we just have no where else to go in discussion.

Agree to disagree.
 Quoting: Septenary Man

It's not agree to disagree. You are unable to present any primary sources suggesting a connection between plasma discharge and squat man images. Your only sources so far reference a primary source that cannot be verified.

This is the fundamental problem with pseudo-science ... the claims always fall apart under investigation.
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Holy shit. It' on page 1203 - 1205, you lazy ass.

A. Azimuthal Current Ring Structure Formation
In addition to the auroral plasma column instabilities, an-other well-known instability type occurs for intense current shaving a slower rise-time. Because of the azimuthal current sand strong interactive forces, the flattened toroids merge to re-duce the number of apparent toroids. The enclosed ellipsoidaltop-most structure is present, but the central toroids combine to form a single azimuthal current carrying toroid. The geometry for this configuration is shown in Fig. 31.In this case, the instability consists of a top electrode consisting of a few toroids that have folded and closed to produce a central bulb, an upward (or downward) cup, a central plasma toroid, and a bottom, usually downward turned toroidal cup.Since it is an electrode, the cup torus at either end can take on a number of shapes. Usually the top electrode shows a variety of patterns. The patterns can be lightning-like, ellipsoidal, triangular (that can resemble the shape of a bird), a lightning bolt or multiple filament current terminations.Fig. 32 shows a number of petroglyphs found globally that share this peculiar geometry. Another variation on the azimuthal current ring structure formation is petroglyphs that have symmetrical -

(Fig. 33. (Left) Configuration and cross-sectional views of the intense current discharge as viewed obliquely to the plasma column. At times, two or moretoroids are seen in line-of-sight emission. (Right) Petroglyphs.)

- dot-like enhanced ear lobes or symmetrical dots at the lower extremity of the interpreted figure.The top image in Fig. 32 is the instability cross section. The bottom picture has been superposed with elements of the plasma instability. At the top of this figure, two toroids can be made out enclosing the central bulb. At midsection a toroid such as that shown in Fig. 32, but slightly warped, is seen. Beneath this is a highly flattened and warped toroid followed by the usual conicalor cup bottom terminus as at the bottom of Fig. 31.When viewed obliquely,the toroid is obvious and petroglyphs depicting the left side of Fig. 32 are omnipresent (Fig. 33). Note that the brightest plasma is at the edges except for the toroid,where denser and brighter plasma is innermost. At times, as the sporadic current pulse travels along the plasma column, one,two, or more toroids are seen in line-of-sight emission.Fig. 34 shows yet another representation of this same class of petroglyph.
A different perspective of this same instability is shown on the left side of Fig. 35. In this case, the instability is shown at a somewhat later time when the central toroids have merged into the oblate shape at the center (the central feature can be accurately represented by a toroid; a flattened toroid, either tubular or warped; an ellipsoid, or no apparent toroid at all). The visibility of the backside of the top cup is echoed in the petroglyphs that show the same shape around the central plasma bulb. Some show the central orb as either fully or partially en-closed.
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etc.
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Yeah, but it's my job to prove my points for you. Whatever.
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If you're going to make a claim, you must be prepared to defend it with research. THAT'S science.

Pseudo-science makes claims, but refuses to defend those claims, and instead tells anyone questioning the claim to go and do their own research.
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Look up above. You failed. This is EXACTLY why I said you sound like a shill. I provided the research paper, and you made false claims that the paper did not discuss plasma and squatting man. Yet, it PLAINLY does.

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lol! So, when you can't prove your point, you just ban people from conversation? Speaks volumes.
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dude I did, and you are saying false things. So yes, since you lied right to my face, I banned you. That is correct. And, I will do so again if you choose to lie again. On top of that, I'll just remove your posts as well.

Disrespect me on my own thread, and I'll boot your ass. If you have something important to add, then when you make the claim YOU back it up, as I just did.

If not, then I will continue banning you from my threads, and I'll just continue deleting your posts.
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lol! So, when you can't prove your point, you just ban people from conversation? Speaks volumes.
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dude I did, and you are saying false things. So yes, since you lied right to my face, I banned you. That is correct. And, I will do so again if you choose to lie again. On top of that, I'll just remove your posts as well.

Disrespect me on my own thread, and I'll boot your ass. If you have something important to add, then when you make the claim YOU back it up, as I just did.

If not, then I will continue banning you from my threads, and I'll just continue deleting your posts.
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Love, have you noticed how many people are having a strange attitude problem as of late?...I am shocked by the way people are acting/talking toward one another...Has the Sun let off any large CME's????
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lol! So, when you can't prove your point, you just ban people from conversation? Speaks volumes.
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dude I did, and you are saying false things. So yes, since you lied right to my face, I banned you. That is correct. And, I will do so again if you choose to lie again. On top of that, I'll just remove your posts as well.

Disrespect me on my own thread, and I'll boot your ass. If you have something important to add, then when you make the claim YOU back it up, as I just did.

If not, then I will continue banning you from my threads, and I'll just continue deleting your posts.
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Love, have you noticed how many people are having a strange attitude problem as of late?...I am shocked by the way people are acting/talking toward one another...Has the Sun let off any large CME's????
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He was one that was just trying to rile me up. I used to have them all the time, lying just to push my buttons. Now, it is not worth it to discuss things with them, especially like this guy when he straight up so obviously lied.

I'm surprised I haven't got more of them. I use to attract them like a magnet. I used to get frustrated and argue and prove my claims over and over and over. Then, I realized they are doing it for a reason, and it had/has nothing to do with the science.

I used to not want to ban anyone from my threads. A while ago I changed my mind, as they are just a waste of time.
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lol! So, when you can't prove your point, you just ban people from conversation? Speaks volumes.
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dude I did, and you are saying false things. So yes, since you lied right to my face, I banned you. That is correct. And, I will do so again if you choose to lie again. On top of that, I'll just remove your posts as well.

Disrespect me on my own thread, and I'll boot your ass. If you have something important to add, then when you make the claim YOU back it up, as I just did.

If not, then I will continue banning you from my threads, and I'll just continue deleting your posts.
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Love, have you noticed how many people are having a strange attitude problem as of late?...I am shocked by the way people are acting/talking toward one another...Has the Sun let off any large CME's????
 Quoting: Settle4It


He was one that was just trying to rile me up. I used to have them all the time, lying just to push my buttons. Now, it is not worth it to discuss things with them, especially like this guy when he straight up so obviously lied.

I'm surprised I haven't got more of them. I use to attract them like a magnet. I used to get frustrated and argue and prove my claims over and over and over. Then, I realized they are doing it for a reason, and it had nothing to do with the science.

I used to not want to ban anyone from my threads. A while ago I changed my mind, as they are just a waste of time.
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It's not just you...I have had it delivered to me as well today...Somethings in the water!...I'm telling ya...lol
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dude I did, and you are saying false things. So yes, since you lied right to my face, I banned you. That is correct. And, I will do so again if you choose to lie again. On top of that, I'll just remove your posts as well.

Disrespect me on my own thread, and I'll boot your ass. If you have something important to add, then when you make the claim YOU back it up, as I just did.

If not, then I will continue banning you from my threads, and I'll just continue deleting your posts.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Love, have you noticed how many people are having a strange attitude problem as of late?...I am shocked by the way people are acting/talking toward one another...Has the Sun let off any large CME's????
 Quoting: Settle4It


He was one that was just trying to rile me up. I used to have them all the time, lying just to push my buttons. Now, it is not worth it to discuss things with them, especially like this guy when he straight up so obviously lied.

I'm surprised I haven't got more of them. I use to attract them like a magnet. I used to get frustrated and argue and prove my claims over and over and over. Then, I realized they are doing it for a reason, and it had nothing to do with the science.

I used to not want to ban anyone from my threads. A while ago I changed my mind, as they are just a waste of time.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


It's not just you...I have had it delivered to me as well today...Somethings in the water!...I'm telling ya...lol
 Quoting: Settle4It


lol, I am sure you are right.

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