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List of Gun Manufacturer's Refusing to Sell to Law Enforcement in Select State's Swells to 18...Make that 34!!!

 
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List of Gun Manufacturer's Refusing to Sell to Law Enforcement in Select State's Swells to 18...Make that 34!!!
Last Friday TheBlaze reported on a growing list of gun manufacturers and retailers who had stopped selling to law enforcement in states that were enacting stringent new gun laws.

Since that report, the initial list (seen below) has changed. However, none of the “big three” (Glock, Sig Sauer, Smith & Wesson) providers to law enforcement have stepped up and joined the companies who have chosen to take a public stand on the issue. In less than two weeks, at least 18 companies have made the decision to stop selling to law enforcement in states that limit a private citizen’s right to own a gun.

Olympic Arms, Inc
La Rue Tactical
EFI, LLC – Extreme Firepower
York Arms
Templar Custom
Cheaper Than Dirt
There is one arms maker that has gotten attention for publicly stating that they will not be pressured into stopping sales to law enforcement. That company is ArmaLite.


I own several Arma-Lite weapons but I've purchased my last...

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Armalite developed AR-15 rifles. Just FYI
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Armalite developed AR-15 rifles. Just FYI
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Understood, one of the best AR's made in my opinion.:


According to posts on several gun-supporting blog sites, Armalite answered email inquires with some unwelcome attitude. This is the reply reportedly sent from a sales rep identified as Pat Raley.

Dear concerned gun owner,

First of all I would like to say thank you for filling my email with all this spam email.

Second, I am not sure where you got this blanket email from to send out as spam, but please stop it.

Third, The manufacturer is not the one you need to convince.

You need to convince the law enforcement agencies and the common people about their mistake in electing these officials and have them removed. Again NOT the manufacture.


AR Stands for ArmaLite…

Respectfully,

Pat Raley

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Olympic Arms, Inc
La Rue Tactical
EFI, LLC – Extreme Firepower
York Arms
Templar Custom
Cheaper Than Dirt Bullwater Enterprises

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Bullwater Enterprises
Westfork Armory
Smith Enterprise
Alex Arms
Spike’s Tactical
Quality Arms
Liberty Suppressors
Doublestar Corp
American Spirit Arms
Trident Armory
Head Down Products
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Good for them!
Thanks for a little good news. hf
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Good for them!
Thanks for a little good news. hf
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We just need to keep pressure on the company's who are not on the list.
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make it clearly known that those who do sell to government will not get the public dollar.

Armalite might be the "original" ar, but Spikes that are on that list make a product that is every bit as good, and in my opinion Superior to Armalite. So i'll be happy just buying Spikes from now on.
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However,

I notice one glaring fact missing completely.

The main problem with gun ownership being restricted is Federal.

I'd like to see these companies stop selling to military, and especially all the FEDERAL agencies.

Until then this is posturing without teeth.
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If the Govt wants arms and ammo, it can buy them in any country they want to. Gun firms cut off their nose to spite their face for political reasons and then go out of business as guns are banned. Meanwhilst in another country..

Well, you get the picture. But the end result is the same. You will not be able to buy a gun in the USofA. This is what you call the law of unintended consequences.
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If the Govt wants arms and ammo, it can buy them in any country they want to. Gun firms cut off their nose to spite their face for political reasons and then go out of business as guns are banned. Meanwhilst in another country..

Well, you get the picture. But the end result is the same. You will not be able to buy a gun in the USofA. This is what you call the law of unintended consequences.
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Sure you will.

You'll just have to do it like the criminals do, they'll never have a shortage of firearms.
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If the Govt wants arms and ammo, it can buy them in any country they want to. Gun firms cut off their nose to spite their face for political reasons and then go out of business as guns are banned. Meanwhilst in another country..

Well, you get the picture. But the end result is the same. You will not be able to buy a gun in the USofA. This is what you call the law of unintended consequences.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28137747


I love how confident "non-Americans" are about Americans losing thir right to bear arms. It will be VERY difficult to make this happen. There are states and citizens who are willing to fight for their 2nd Amendment rights.
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However,

I notice one glaring fact missing completely.

The main problem with gun ownership being restricted is Federal.

I'd like to see these companies stop selling to military, and especially all the FEDERAL agencies.

Until then this is posturing without teeth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141


Oh geeze... is grade school out today due to the weather?

If they stopped sales to all Federal agencies and the military... would that not materially impact their sales? Would you, if you owned a company, do that to your business?

Not unless you were a communist libtard....
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However,

I notice one glaring fact missing completely.

The main problem with gun ownership being restricted is Federal.

I'd like to see these companies stop selling to military, and especially all the FEDERAL agencies.

Until then this is posturing without teeth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141


Oh geeze... is grade school out today due to the weather?

If they stopped sales to all Federal agencies and the military... would that not materially impact their sales? Would you, if you owned a company, do that to your business?

Not unless you were a communist libtard....
 Quoting: TraderRob


I own a business. I would risk losing much of my new business over an issue as important as this one...guaranteed.
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However,

I notice one glaring fact missing completely.

The main problem with gun ownership being restricted is Federal.

I'd like to see these companies stop selling to military, and especially all the FEDERAL agencies.

Until then this is posturing without teeth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141


Oh geeze... is grade school out today due to the weather?

If they stopped sales to all Federal agencies and the military... would that not materially impact their sales? Would you, if you owned a company, do that to your business?

Not unless you were a communist libtard....
 Quoting: TraderRob


However,

I notice one glaring fact missing completely.

The main problem with gun ownership being restricted is Federal.

I'd like to see these companies stop selling to military, and especially all the FEDERAL agencies.

Until then this is posturing without teeth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141


Oh geeze... is grade school out today due to the weather?

If they stopped sales to all Federal agencies and the military... would that not materially impact their sales? Would you, if you owned a company, do that to your business?

Not unless you were a communist libtard....
 Quoting: TraderRob


I own a business. I would risk losing much of my new business over an issue as important as this one...guaranteed.
 Quoting: Fire Watch


Well said. Sometimes you need to take a stand. Communist? Really? Is this GHW Bush? I guess that makes sense as your family fortune came from arming Nazis against the Allied Forces in the ame of capitolist ideals.... It just ain't Merican to hurt the bottom line....

Wait or it...your time is coming...turncoat.
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Why is it that, when anyone calls business on its unethical, immoral, destructive practices they are labeled "communist"?
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True patriotism means standing for something other than profit. It means good stewardship. It means strong character and a sense of social justice. All patriots should be on board right now, those that don't will find themselves in pretty dire straits. Things are gonna get rough for awhile but history will show those that supported arms sales to the fed to be on the losing end. We've been here before. Their products will be used to kill men, women and children here on our own soil. But it's just good business, right?

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However,

I notice one glaring fact missing completely.

The main problem with gun ownership being restricted is Federal.

I'd like to see these companies stop selling to military, and especially all the FEDERAL agencies.

Until then this is posturing without teeth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141


Oh geeze... is grade school out today due to the weather?

If they stopped sales to all Federal agencies and the military... would that not materially impact their sales? Would you, if you owned a company, do that to your business?

Not unless you were a communist libtard....
 Quoting: TraderRob


However,

I notice one glaring fact missing completely.

The main problem with gun ownership being restricted is Federal.

I'd like to see these companies stop selling to military, and especially all the FEDERAL agencies.

Until then this is posturing without teeth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141


Oh geeze... is grade school out today due to the weather?

If they stopped sales to all Federal agencies and the military... would that not materially impact their sales? Would you, if you owned a company, do that to your business?

Not unless you were a communist libtard....
 Quoting: TraderRob


I own a business. I would risk losing much of my new business over an issue as important as this one...guaranteed.
 Quoting: Fire Watch


Well said. Sometimes you need to take a stand. Communist? Really? Is this GHW Bush? I guess that makes sense as your family fortune came from arming Nazis against the Allied Forces in the ame of capitolist ideals.... It just ain't Merican to hurt the bottom line....

Wait or it...your time is coming...turncoat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34868211


I guess I'm confused...who is the turncoat and why?
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Why is this not pinned yet?

That's a pretty big list and climbing.

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However,

I notice one glaring fact missing completely.

The main problem with gun ownership being restricted is Federal.

I'd like to see these companies stop selling to military, and especially all the FEDERAL agencies.

Until then this is posturing without teeth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141


Oh geeze... is grade school out today due to the weather?

If they stopped sales to all Federal agencies and the military... would that not materially impact their sales? Would you, if you owned a company, do that to your business?

Not unless you were a communist libtard....
 Quoting: TraderRob


I can promise you that the sales amounts are negligeble when comparing the sales that the manufacturer sells to the public.

Would it impact the sales, of course it would, so does not selling to the NY police, albeit in a smaller grade.

However, if the public supported such a measure by transfering their purchases from the likes of Armalite to Spikes, then the loss from a few thousand rifles to the FBI wouldn't even be noticeable.

Remember, the federal government doesn't pay the "retail" price either. A single earned sale on the private market is worth two to the government.
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All I know is I'm not going down without a fight. If someone illegally comes into my home (I own it, i make the rules, not the Feds or police) to take my guns, I'll defend my home. My home is my nation. #notafraidtodie
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However,

I notice one glaring fact missing completely.

The main problem with gun ownership being restricted is Federal.

I'd like to see these companies stop selling to military, and especially all the FEDERAL agencies.

Until then this is posturing without teeth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141


Oh geeze... is grade school out today due to the weather?

If they stopped sales to all Federal agencies and the military... would that not materially impact their sales? Would you, if you owned a company, do that to your business?

Not unless you were a communist libtard....
 Quoting: TraderRob


...


Oh geeze... is grade school out today due to the weather?

If they stopped sales to all Federal agencies and the military... would that not materially impact their sales? Would you, if you owned a company, do that to your business?

Not unless you were a communist libtard....
 Quoting: TraderRob


I own a business. I would risk losing much of my new business over an issue as important as this one...guaranteed.
 Quoting: Fire Watch


Well said. Sometimes you need to take a stand. Communist? Really? Is this GHW Bush? I guess that makes sense as your family fortune came from arming Nazis against the Allied Forces in the ame of capitolist ideals.... It just ain't Merican to hurt the bottom line....

Wait or it...your time is coming...turncoat.
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I guess I'm confused...who is the turncoat and why?
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My guess is traitor Rob....the guy saying that selling guns to the Feds is good for business and, thus, Pro American...
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All I know is I'm not going down without a fight. If someone illegally comes into my home (I own it, i make the rules, not the Feds or police) to take my guns, I'll defend my home. My home is my nation. #notafraidtodie
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However,

I notice one glaring fact missing completely.

The main problem with gun ownership being restricted is Federal.

I'd like to see these companies stop selling to military, and especially all the FEDERAL agencies.

Until then this is posturing without teeth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141


Oh geeze... is grade school out today due to the weather?

If they stopped sales to all Federal agencies and the military... would that not materially impact their sales? Would you, if you owned a company, do that to your business?

Not unless you were a communist libtard....
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I own a business. I would risk losing much of my new business over an issue as important as this one...guaranteed.
 Quoting: Fire Watch


Good on you brother!

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So what happens if every gun manufacturer, or even most of them, stop selling to law enforcement?

I've always wondered about that kind of a protest.

Like if 75% of the country just decided to quit their jobs in protest, how would the government handle that kind of scenario?

They can't force us to work or buy gas or whatever.

I certainly would like to see something like that go down in my lifetime.
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Oh geeze... is grade school out today due to the weather?

If they stopped sales to all Federal agencies and the military... would that not materially impact their sales? Would you, if you owned a company, do that to your business?

Not unless you were a communist libtard....
 Quoting: TraderRob


...


I own a business. I would risk losing much of my new business over an issue as important as this one...guaranteed.
 Quoting: Fire Watch


Well said. Sometimes you need to take a stand. Communist? Really? Is this GHW Bush? I guess that makes sense as your family fortune came from arming Nazis against the Allied Forces in the ame of capitolist ideals.... It just ain't Merican to hurt the bottom line....

Wait or it...your time is coming...turncoat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34868211


I guess I'm confused...who is the turncoat and why?
 Quoting: Fire Watch


My guess is traitor Rob....the guy saying that selling guns to the Feds is good for business and, thus, Pro American...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1282620


ahhh...thanks.
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If the Govt wants arms and ammo, it can buy them in any country they want to. Gun firms cut off their nose to spite their face for political reasons and then go out of business as guns are banned. Meanwhilst in another country..

Well, you get the picture. But the end result is the same. You will not be able to buy a gun in the USofA. This is what you call the law of unintended consequences.
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I love how confident "non-Americans" are about Americans losing thir right to bear arms. It will be VERY difficult to make this happen. There are states and citizens who are willing to fight for their 2nd Amendment rights.
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not to mention the tens of millions of intelligent people in the country who are fully capable of making thousands of other destructive weapons of a multitude of natures up to and including guns. This is AMERICA!!! THE MOST ABLE DRIVEN INTELLIGENT CAPABLE FORCE ON THE PLANET PERIOD
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