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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27162552 02/21/2013 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not a Christian. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27162552 I am not religious. I do not believe in god. I stand with Hobby Lobby. The government has a do as we say, not as we do mentality. If you think they will not trample your rights, you are mistaken. The government doesn't care if you are religious. The government doesn't care if you are not religious. When they say jump, they expect you to ask how high? You either jump for them, or you put your foot down and stand firm. It is up to you. So when they tell you to go against your principles, beliefs or way of life... whatever that may be... I hope you finally put your foot down. Thank you so much for your input !! I agree with you 1000% I'm not a "Christian" either - I like to consider myself a Buddhist who follows Christ. LOL But I can see the big picture, and what's happened to this country in the last 50-60 years. Historically it's pretty plain to see. This nation has lost all sense of morality - I don't give a damn WHAT religion is involved. I'm talking about what's RIGHT and what's WRONG, and how that effects our society. Exactly!!! The erosion of freedom, even freedoms I do not partake in, is still erosion of freedom. Plain and simple! |
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| davvi Doe: A Female Rabbit User ID: 3677166 02/21/2013 09:46 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol, that's what happens when you run a modern business based on 2000 year old ideologies. Quoting: A Dying Breed You realize the idiocy in that statement right? No one starts a business with the desire to have it fail right away. And the foundations of Christianity are rooted in the principles of Judaism. So what you said was that principles that have historically stood the test of time have no business in modern business. You may as well have said, "That's what you get when you try to establish a business that will last with ideologies and principles that have lasted for over 5000 years." great post ^^^ and you are welcome, Yes I did. "Arguing with a leftist is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like its victorious." “I am the senator. You are the citizen. You need to be quiet.” Senator Tommy Tucker and your tax dollars at work. Scared yet? The people who rob Peter to pay Paul can always count on Paul's support. Obama's Death Panels: Cruel and Unusual punishment for people whose only crime is getting old or getting sick. The IRS used to investigate criminals, under Obama the IRS is the criminal. |
| YaRight User ID: 34881036 02/21/2013 09:47 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well I take this two fold On one hand…hell yes close that F-er!!!! My wife drops some major cash in that place LOL On the other hand…. No Gov should force a (Individual owner) to compromise his religious beliefs. Obummer care…. Is going to “fundamentally” change this country and not for the better The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. |
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| LisaDiane User ID: 34316307 02/21/2013 09:51 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: davvi i am not very familiar with the store, but i find it despicable that our government now works hard to put business out of business. they will exempt muslims, but not christians or jews from this stupid law. Well... that does seem to be the case. yes it does, i had first heard of this last january and there was a scheduled "support hobby lobby day." I ordered a frame from their website to support their business. you may be interested in this site: [link to www.becketfund.org] Thank you for the link !!! I went to the store on "Support Hobby Lobby Day" and made a purchase. I aksed them about their sales that day and they reported a slightly larger volume that day then previous days. The word about this support day was not as viral as it was for Chick Fil-A. They are an awesome store with discounts of usually 40% off on many items rotating each week. They have a website for online purchases, too. They need your support. LisaDiane |
| TraderRob User ID: 14415865 02/21/2013 09:52 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And all because the executives and CEO can't bear to give up any of that profit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1067996 They can let the worker bees starve, be sick or go on unemployment, but heaven forfend that the 1% in the company have to suffer the potential loss of speed boat or private island. *world tiniest violin* this really 'christian' of them Oh geeze.... now lets turn that 180 the other way. Obama claims to be a Christian. Why is he not acting like one and not forcing Christian people to go against their faith? Where is the separation of church and state B.S. that all you libtards throw back as an excuse everytime you get cornered (and I know, that this is not a valid church/state issue). |
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| Yes I Did !!!! (OP) User ID: 34792813 02/21/2013 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes it does, i had first heard of this last january and there was a scheduled "support hobby lobby day." I ordered a frame from their website to support their business. you may be interested in this site: [link to www.becketfund.org] Thank you for the link !!! I went to the store on "Support Hobby Lobby Day" and made a purchase. I aksed them about their sales that day and they reported a slightly larger volume that day then previous days. The word about this support day was not as viral as it was for Chick Fil-A. They are an awesome store with discounts of usually 40% off on many items rotating each week. They have a website for online purchases, too. They need your support. My hobby is making beaded jewelry and I love that store, too !! Most importantly, I support the employees... I really hate to see MORE unemployment in this country because of Obamacare... but it's happening all over the nation. WTF ???!!! Our government is absolutely INSANE !!!!! not to mention TREASONOUS !!! "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." ~ Albert Einstein |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33265149 02/21/2013 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hobby Lobby....good God frearing Christians..HUM!! I`ve been in their stores several times and watched the sales people making origional prices up to then be able to mark them down with 1/2 price signs above them. I`ve asked the sales people about this and they said Hobby Lobby changes prices all the time like this. I spoke to a mananger and was told this was to reflect a price increase. Well they bought the items at the lower price so why not give the customers a good deal?! In My Good Book this is Cheating and Stealing!!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22124161 02/21/2013 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuck em...let em go. Majority of employees are women, making 7 or 8 dollars an hour whom cannot afford birth control. Take the moral high road all you want but people are peope and they will have sex and babies will be born. So in you mind its more moral to have this baby for a woman whom can barely afford to live herself than it is for her to know that she wont get pregenant? How will she support said baby? I know the public will pay. Dont had me the bullshit of well she shouldnt have sex...people are people and sex is part of our chemical makeup...to reproduce. As far as the owner well ya he can take the high moral road because he doesnt ever have to worry about paying for a child, money is not a problem, yes he earned it and has a right to close. If he cared so much for his employees he would embrace birth control for women, to know that these women wont get pregnant, burden themselves and society with a with a child that nobody really wanted. And how is a child supposed to grow up possibly knowing that nobody really wanted them, or a mother that is resentful to a child that was not planned. As a christian myself I get sick of fellow christians who stand on their mora soupbox and tell other people that they are right and everyonelse is wrong, and stop this stupid garbage of "well they have to practice abstinence"....are bodies are wired to procreate. In the end ...ir repeat...fuck em ...let em close |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28320793 02/21/2013 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I work for Jehovah's Witnesses can they deny me coverage for a blood transfusion if I need one? Does Obamacare state which things must be included regardless of the owners religion? I honestly don't know what this monstrosity does. I'm Baptist so I agree with Hobby Lobby, but what about other religions? Where will it end? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22124161 02/21/2013 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Majority of workers make minimum wage, how about the owners, who of are high moral character, pay their employees a decent wage and then they can buy their own birth control if wanted. Oh shit...but that would cut into his profits..now we cant have that. How christian are these people...making millions while their employees are working and living on public assistance...what happened to his high christian moral values of lifting others up? once again fuck em...let them close...another business will take its place and the owner of hobby lobby can go back to his hollow million dollar vacation home and stand on his morals. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21168833 02/21/2013 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuck em...let em go. Majority of employees are women, making 7 or 8 dollars an hour whom cannot afford birth control. Take the moral high road all you want but people Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22124161 are peope and they will have sex and babies will be born. So in you mind its more moral to have this baby for a woman whom can barely afford to live herself than it is for her to know that she wont get pregenant? How will she support said baby? I know the public will pay. Dont had me the bullshit of well she shouldnt have sex...people are people and sex is part of our chemical makeup...to reproduce. As far as the owner well ya he can take the high moral road because he doesnt ever have to worry about paying for a child, money is not a problem, yes he earned it and has a right to close. If he cared so much for his employees he would embrace birth control for women, to know that these women wont get pregnant, burden themselves and society with a with a child that nobody really wanted. And how is a child supposed to grow up possibly knowing that nobody really wanted them, or a mother that is resentful to a child that was not planned. As a christian myself I get sick of fellow christians who stand on their mora soupbox and tell other people that they are right and everyonelse is wrong, and stop this stupid garbage of "well they have to practice abstinence"....are bodies are wired to procreate. In the end ...ir repeat...fuck em ...let em close Your ignorance is showing. But hey, stupid is as stupid does. WTF is a "mora soupbox" you idiot? I vote for an IQ test prior to allowing anyone to post here. If you fail, you are banned and no longer allowed to post here. And you, AC 22124161, are a sure bet for banning under that rule. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27162552 02/21/2013 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And how is a Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22124161 child supposed to grow up possibly knowing that nobody really wanted them, or a mother that is resentful to a child that was not planned. I grew up just fine thank you very much. By the way, you want to talk about birth control, here is some birth control for you, go fuck yourself. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29337971 02/21/2013 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama care is hurting a lot of businesses! My son, who is in college, works part time at Dunham's Sports. They work with him that during school he gets around 25 to 28 hours a week. During summer and Christmas holidays when he is not in school he will get 30 to 40 hours a week. They had a meting in his store last week to explain the new rules on hours. Since they are listed part time, they cannot get over 28 hours per week from now on. If they go over 28 for just 1 week during the year they have to be considered full time and be offered insurance and they can't deny coverage, (goes against obamacare rules). This really hurts him cause summer hours helps pay for his books during school. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10372663 02/21/2013 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And all because the executives and CEO can't bear to give up any of that profit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1067996 They can let the worker bees starve, be sick or go on unemployment, but heaven forfend that the 1% in the company have to suffer the potential loss of speed boat or private island. *world tiniest violin* AAAAHHHH a comment from the pin head gallery!!!! Know the facts BEFORE spewing! YOU DON'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12655659 02/21/2013 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuck em...let em go. Majority of employees are women, making 7 or 8 dollars an hour whom cannot afford birth control. Take the moral high road all you want but people Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22124161 are peope and they will have sex and babies will be born. So in you mind its more moral to have this baby for a woman whom can barely afford to live herself than it is for her to know that she wont get pregenant? How will she support said baby? I know the public will pay. Dont had me the bullshit of well she shouldnt have sex...people are people and sex is part of our chemical makeup...to reproduce. As far as the owner well ya he can take the high moral road because he doesnt ever have to worry about paying for a child, money is not a problem, yes he earned it and has a right to close. If he cared so much for his employees he would embrace birth control for women, to know that these women wont get pregnant, burden themselves and society with a with a child that nobody really wanted. And how is a child supposed to grow up possibly knowing that nobody really wanted them, or a mother that is resentful to a child that was not planned. As a christian myself I get sick of fellow christians who stand on their mora soupbox and tell other people that they are right and everyonelse is wrong, and stop this stupid garbage of "well they have to practice abstinence"....are bodies are wired to procreate. In the end ...ir repeat...fuck em ...let em close Hobby lobby near me which borders the city of Chicago starts off their employees at 15 dollars an hour, thats not bad is it. and as for women, Hobby Lobby should not be responsible for paying for those pills, its bad enough they're out there in the first place but they shouldn't have that immorality on their shoulders. They can get them from their pharmacist, or doctor, clinic and sadly some schools now OH and fucking vending machines, so screw that Hobby Lobby has a right and should not be responsible for that. You are not as Christian as you think if you believe otherwise. |
| Yes I Did !!!! (OP) User ID: 34792813 02/21/2013 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Majority of workers make minimum wage, how about the owners, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22124161 who of are high moral character, pay their employees a decent wage and then they can buy their own birth control if wanted. Oh shit...but that would cut into his profits..now we cant have that. How christian are these people...making millions while their employees are working and living on public assistance...what happened to his high christian moral values of lifting others up? once again fuck em...let them close...another business will take its place and the owner of hobby lobby can go back to his hollow million dollar vacation home and stand on his morals. I guess your reading comprehension is lacking. The letter plainly states that they have given their employees pay raises EVERY year. "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." ~ Albert Einstein |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27162552 02/21/2013 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Majority of workers make minimum wage, how about the owners, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22124161 who of are high moral character, pay their employees a decent wage and then they can buy their own birth control if wanted. Oh shit...but that would cut into his profits..now we cant have that. How christian are these people...making millions while their employees are working and living on public assistance...what happened to his high christian moral values of lifting others up? once again fuck em...let them close...another business will take its place and the owner of hobby lobby can go back to his hollow million dollar vacation home and stand on his morals. I guess your reading comprehension is lacking. The letter plainly states that they have given their employees pay raises EVERY year. I am willing to guess that one of the major problems with some people today is that they are lacking critical thinking/reflective reasoning skills. They weren't taught how to think, only what to think. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34884741 02/21/2013 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love all the people saying how much Hobby Lobby pays their employee. How do you know this? Do you work for them? If you look online, you will see they often ADVERTISE payment at one level, and GIVE JOBS at another and say "that pay is only for FULL TIME WORKERS" without actually hiring full time workers. That's right. They con people into thinking they will get a full time time and kick them down to part-time help WITH NO benefits. This has gone on for years and years, long before Obama. They are just trying to kick their own RESPONSIBILITY aside and use Obama as a scapegoat. They are NOT ethical in their hiring and employment practices. Quotes: store set up (Former Employee), Lexington KY – February 11, 2013 I went in to complete an application on the first day of the hiring for a new store. I interviewed and left to go to my job I was working at the time. I got a phone call about 3 hours later telling me I needed to come back immediately and complete my new hire paperwork becuase they were offering me a position. I left my job to go complete the paperwork. When I got there I was told very little about the position, but completed the paperwork. I was told to give my notice because the position started the next week. I tried to ask questions about the position but they managers were so busy interviewing that I left there thinking I must have been offered a full time job because I had not specified I would work temporary or full time on my application. I tried to go back in later in the week and the store manager treated me like I was stupid. She told me that I had not been promised a job and would have to work 12 hour shifts two weeks in a row and prove myself before I was offered any type of position but she already hired 40 people and I would probably not have a job. How can these people mess with other people's lives like that? If I had listened to them I would have lost my other job and then been out of a job in two weeks. Be very careful... they will scam you to get the store set up if you are in a location where a store is Cashier (Former Employee), Poughkeepsie, NY – January 21, 2013 Pros: discounts, closed on sundays Cons: no health insurance A typical day at work included dealing with customers. I greeted them when they entered the store and gave them a saluation when they left the store. I would clean the front end, which included sweeping and emptying garabage cans. I learned what hard work is because I was the only cashier ever there during the week. Management was not very good, they cared more about themselves then their employees. I loved my co-workers and the customers. The hardest part of my job was trying to be in two places at once and occassionally dealing with a irrate customer. The most enjoyable part of the job is meeting all the different types of people. – less Graphic Designer (Former Employee), Oklahoma City, OK – December 6, 2012 Pros – - Wide range of projects - Great co-workers - Top of the line technology - Learning new techniques Cons – Expectations not clearly defined, high turn-over, unstable department, and lack of communication. Micro-managed with each project but the result is still not satisfactory, blame goes down instead of up. No proper training for the required work. Unchristianlike management style and policies. Instead of building you up to where you need to be as an employee they are quick to cut you down and toss you aside. Advice to Senior Management – Provide proper training to all management and design team, work together to make it a success instead of scrapping it and starting over. You should be a team instead of a group. The company places emphasis on their "Christian values", but the department management style is contradictory to Christian teachings which emphasize family caring and personal dignity. They take action first and aren't concerned with the consequences. – less The company lead me to believe I'd have job for future! Cashier/Stocker (Former Employee), North Port, FL – October 31, 2012 I was not very satisfied being hired just to prepare store to open then was let go. When you get respect from your employer and tell you that you do a good job and then the next day you get threatend for your job. Assistant Store Manager (Former Employee), Muskegon, MI – October 29, 2012 Pros: very nice fellow employees Cons: company considers them to be a nice christian company but they do not treat their employees properly iteracting with customers, ordering merchandise by entering them in a book, cahiering when needed, getting change for cashier drawers. The hardest part of the job was not knowing who to take orders from. Too many managers,district supervisors, district managers giving orders and getting threatened that the bar has been raised because of the economy so with less employees we need to work harder in less time. – less Lead/Floor (Former Employee), Oklahoma City, OK – October 22, 2012 Cons: most of the job they treat employees like dirt.when you start getting raises they just let you go to bring in cheaper workers very high turnover.management ignored problems. coworkers fought with problems and safety issues. crossing picket lines to go to work was very bad. no union Framer and customer service representative (Former Employee), Dallas, TX – October 10, 2012 Pros: working with good customers to frame artwork Cons: bad management, out-or-touch ownership, juggling customers with framing and freight A typical work schedule was seldom the same. I learned to work with all kinds of customers and co-workers. Some were very pleasant, and a few customers were rude. For such pompous Christian ownership, that company was 100% dedicated to the bottom line. Sometimes there were wholesale monthly firings. Most of the people I worked with were good people, a few made the job more difficult than it should have been. Hobby Lobby got three for the price of one. A framer had to frame artwork, work with customers, and break down freight ever Tuesday. It was like the system was designed to fail, and as result it was a stressful place to work for not much money. I enjoyed working with customers who were looking for a nice frame and mats. It was fun. Hobby Lobby was not! – less |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34884741 02/21/2013 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Majority of workers make minimum wage, how about the owners, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22124161 who of are high moral character, pay their employees a decent wage and then they can buy their own birth control if wanted. Oh shit...but that would cut into his profits..now we cant have that. How christian are these people...making millions while their employees are working and living on public assistance...what happened to his high christian moral values of lifting others up? once again fuck em...let them close...another business will take its place and the owner of hobby lobby can go back to his hollow million dollar vacation home and stand on his morals. I guess your reading comprehension is lacking. The letter plainly states that they have given their employees pay raises EVERY year. The "letter" makes CLAIMS. The issue is not reading comprehension, but critical thinking skills where dumbasses like you don't realize HL is a SCAM and makes CLAIMS about itself which prove FALSE and just try to find a SCAPEGOAT for its unethical practices. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27162552 02/21/2013 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Majority of workers make minimum wage, how about the owners, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22124161 who of are high moral character, pay their employees a decent wage and then they can buy their own birth control if wanted. Oh shit...but that would cut into his profits..now we cant have that. How christian are these people...making millions while their employees are working and living on public assistance...what happened to his high christian moral values of lifting others up? once again fuck em...let them close...another business will take its place and the owner of hobby lobby can go back to his hollow million dollar vacation home and stand on his morals. I guess your reading comprehension is lacking. The letter plainly states that they have given their employees pay raises EVERY year. The "letter" makes CLAIMS. The issue is not reading comprehension, but critical thinking skills where dumbasses like you don't realize HL is a SCAM and makes CLAIMS about itself which prove FALSE and just try to find a SCAPEGOAT for its unethical practices. Everything you have posted are CLAIMS. How do you know those people really worked there? Because they claimed they did. Did you personally experience these things? Do you work for Hobby Lobby? Please provide a suit of these claims in which the employee won. (I'm having trouble finding one) |
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