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HOBBY LOBBY MAY CLOSE ITS DOORS - Thank you Obamacare Idiots !!!!!!

 
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Let me add to my previous post. You guys don't like government regulations.
So Hobby Lobby can say they don't want to cover birth control, and that is fine. Then where do you draw the line. Good for Hobby Lobby. But what a precidence.\
Now your wife gets a rare cancer... you insurance company can just say, we don't cover that kind of cancer, no government regulations, so what are you gonna do? Sell your house and everything you own?
Sometimes regulation is a good thing, it is the reason why we don't allow your local oil change place to dump used oil in the ditch out back, it is the reason restaurants have to wash the dishes, it is the reason trucking companies have to keep safe tires on their trucks, it is the reason your grocery store doesn't wash old chicken in bleach and repackage it with a new date.
They want to be an insurance company, they need to play by the rules put in place for insurance companies.
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At times the government has trouble regulating itself.
I agree sometimes regulation is a good thing.
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I don't shop at Hobby Lobby much because ours is run-down and the people who work there are rude and lazy.

I also do not affiliate myself with any religion.

HOWEVER

I stand behind the company 100% in this. If it's true that all they're asking is to have their health plans exclude abortion pills, that's perfectly reasonable. Trying to force them with threat of a fine is a disgusting overreach of government.
 Quoting: thinkingoutsidetherhombus


They are not following their religion when it makes demands on them. Hypocrites.

And it's clear people like you have no clue to history in the US in relation to religion and governmental regulations. Start with Native Americans and the Sun Dance. Look it up. Moron.
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I've never, ever called someone this, but you are a definitely a paid

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I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain.
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I don't shop at Hobby Lobby much because ours is run-down and the people who work there are rude and lazy.

I also do not affiliate myself with any religion.

HOWEVER

I stand behind the company 100% in this. If it's true that all they're asking is to have their health plans exclude abortion pills, that's perfectly reasonable. Trying to force them with threat of a fine is a disgusting overreach of government.
 Quoting: thinkingoutsidetherhombus


They are not following their religion when it makes demands on them. Hypocrites.

And it's clear people like you have no clue to history in the US in relation to religion and governmental regulations. Start with Native Americans and the Sun Dance. Look it up. Moron.
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I've never, ever called someone this, but you are a definitely a paid

shill
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Another GLP moron who doesn't like facts....
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Let me get this straight. First of all they are self-insured. That choice puts them under the regulation regarding insurance companies. If I remember correctly, their problem was the government was saying they had to cover birth control as an insurance company. They claim it goes against their Christian beliefs.
So instead of switching their model and buying outside insurance, they decide to go out of business?

The fact that they have to cover birth control is going to put them out of business?

LOL, if that is the case, they have other problems. And they are just happy to blame their demise on the government.
Give me a break.
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Wow just WOW

If you don’t know anything about business then you really should not comment

Self-insured does not mean they have insurance department LOL it means they back the money end of it and a Blue Cross / Aetna ..Etc… manages it for them. Under Obummer Care the insurance companies (BC / A) must provide the morning after pill hence abortions

Now craw back under your Liberal rock and peal that damn O sticker off of your cash for clunker car
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Good for them! They have a brand new store opening here in a week or two. It would be sad to see it go so fast.

They took over a building that I thought would never be occupied again and it looks awesome.
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Lol, that's what happens when you run a modern business based on 2000 year old ideologies.
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You may as well have said, "That's what you get when you try to establish a business that will last with ideologies and principles that have lasted for over 5000 years."
 Quoting: Dominus



But the ideologies of stupid liberalism or socialism, going back several decades in its current form, sure have worked wonders in Greece.

Or how about France, where an American CEO said yesterday that anyone would be an idiot to consider investing in a large company in France, where workers love their culture of lazy leftism.
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I don't shop at Hobby Lobby much because ours is run-down and the people who work there are rude and lazy.

I also do not affiliate myself with any religion.

HOWEVER

I stand behind the company 100% in this. If it's true that all they're asking is to have their health plans exclude abortion pills, that's perfectly reasonable. Trying to force them with threat of a fine is a disgusting overreach of government.
 Quoting: thinkingoutsidetherhombus


They are not following their religion when it makes demands on them. Hypocrites.

And it's clear people like you have no clue to history in the US in relation to religion and governmental regulations. Start with Native Americans and the Sun Dance. Look it up. Moron.
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I've never, ever called someone this, but you are a definitely a paid

shill
 Quoting: thinkingoutsidetherhombus


Another GLP moron who doesn't like facts....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34884741


Ok, well I can attest to the fact that you just showed up on GLP today and have done nothing but try to bait conservatives all morning. So either you're a shill or such an arrogant liberal asshole that your mom is ashamed.

ETA: Pardon my forgetfulness...I believe you guys are going by "Cyber Warriors" now. My apologies.

Last Edited by *Rhombus* on 02/21/2013 11:49 AM
I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain.
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They take their faith seriously, not like many superficial Christians.

When government law conflicts with God's law, then the govenment's law must be disobeyed or avoided. Shutting down their business will allow them to avoid killing another human being through abortion related circumstances.

Then Jesus said to them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's." And they were amazed at him.

Mark 12:17

“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments."

John 14:15

"You shall not murder."

Exodus 20:13
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And all because the executives and CEO can't bear to give up any of that profit.

They can let the worker bees starve, be sick or go on unemployment, but heaven forfend that the 1% in the company have to suffer the potential loss of speed boat or private island.

*world tiniest violin*
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Brainless dumb-a-crat....

When they close their doors, all their emplyee's will be out of work.

Most peple consider having a job more important.
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Too bad they didn't have Obamacare years ago. If they mandated the abortion drugs back then maybe the scumbag Kenyan might not have ever been born.........
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I've never understood how this place calls itself Hobby Lobby when it doesn't sell comics or sports cards.
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I passed this along too to the people in my hobby of model building. I use hobby lobby to buy kits and supplies every month. If they close I will have to drive 50 miles to the nearest hobby shop to get the things I need to keep my workshop going.
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Good the place sucks
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Do you realize the number of people that will lose their jobs over this? We are not only talking the store's employees, but the manufacturing workers, warehouse personnel, truckers and everyone else in Hobby Lobby's supply chain?
Now what if this puts some of those business to the point of closing their doors?
This creates a Domino effect of business closures and unemployment.
So regardless of your feelings for the business ethics or moral stand, it's closing hurts all of us.
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bump
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And all because the executives and CEO can't bear to give up any of that profit.

They can let the worker bees starve, be sick or go on unemployment, but heaven forfend that the 1% in the company have to suffer the potential loss of speed boat or private island.

*world tiniest violin*
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1067996


You didnt even read the letter did you liberal fool !
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And all because the executives and CEO can't bear to give up any of that profit.

They can let the worker bees starve, be sick or go on unemployment, but heaven forfend that the 1% in the company have to suffer the potential loss of speed boat or private island.

*world tiniest violin*
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1067996


You didnt even read the letter did you liberal fool !
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More than likely you're sitting on your ass collecting on the dole ! Right?
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I have a friend who works there. He started out part time and was making $8 something an hour, then after about a year or two, they promoted him to full time and raised his rate to $12 something an hour. He also told me a few months ago that everyone in the store got a dollar raise, even new hires. I was like wow, I think I should go apply there. They really are a great company.
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that fuckin place sucks my balllllz



fuck it
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Good the place sucks
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YOU suck.
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that fuckin place sucks my balllllz



fuck it
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Fuck you. Alot of people like it. You don't like it - don't go in it. Problem solved.
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I will be so sad if Hobby Lobby closes down. I hope they win in this situation...
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There's hope.

"OKLAHOMA CITY - Nine U.S. senators and two U.S. representatives have filed a legal brief in support of Hobby Lobby Stores Inc.'s court battle against the Affordable Care Act, joining the state of Oklahoma and 10 other groups that have backed the company.

Lawmakers who have attached their names to the brief include Sens. Jim Inhofe, R-Tulsa; Orrin Hatch, R-Utah; Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.; Dan Coats, R-Ind.; Thad Cochran, R-Miss.; Mike Crapo, R-Idaho; Charles Grassley, R-Iowa; Pat Roberts, R-Kan.; Richard Shelby, R-Ala. and U.S. Reps. Lamar Smith, R-Texas; and Frank Wolf, R-Va.

The brief was filed late Tuesday in the U.S. 10th Circuit Court of Appeals in Denver, where Hobby Lobby's lawsuit against the federal government is pending.

Read more from this Tulsa World article at [link to www.tulsaworld.com]
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Good the place sucks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19156676


Well....I'm SURE "you " know what they say about opinions and BUTT HOLES... But as long as their are open I WILL SHOP THEIR "EVERY" chance I get and will GLADLY drop a cpl hundred bucks EVERY time I hit the door. If you write the owner, he may give you a one month subscription here since you can't afford it yourself...
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Hobby Lobby is one of my favorite stores and I really hate to see them go !!!

THIS NEWS CAME OUT EARLIER, BUT IT IS SO SAD FOR A GREAT COMPANY AND STORE. Read his letter, please.

When you see this going on in our lifetime......

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HOBBY LOBBY MAY CLOSE ITS DOORS

Micah 6:8..."to act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with
your God."


Letter from Hobby Lobby Stores CEO

By David Green, the founder and CEO of Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc.

When my family and I started our company 40 years ago, we were working out of a garage on a $600 bank loan, assembling miniature picture frames. Our first retail store wasn't much bigger than most people's living rooms, but we had faith that we would succeed if we lived and worked according to God's word. From there, Hobby Lobby has become one of the nation's largest arts and crafts retailers, with more than 500 locations in 41 states. Our children grew up into fine business leaders, and today we run Hobby Lobby together, as a family.

We're Christians, and we run our business on Christian principles. I've always said that the first two goals of our business are (1) to run our business in harmony with God's laws, and (2) to focus on people more than money. And that's what we've tried to do. We close early so our employees can see their families at night. We keep our
stores closed on Sundays, one of the week's biggest shopping days, so that our workers and their families can enjoy a day of rest. We believe that it is by God's grace that Hobby Lobby has endured, and he has blessed us and
our employees. We've not only added jobs in a weak economy, we've raised wages for the past four years in a row. Our full-time employees start at 80% above minimum wage.

But now, our government threatens to change all of that. A new government healthcare mandate says that our family business MUST provide what I believe are abortion-causing drugs as part of our health insurance. Being Christians, we don't pay for drugs that might cause abortions, which means that we don't cover emergency contraception, the morning-after pill or the week-after pill. We believe doing so might end a life after the moment of conception, something that is contrary to our most important beliefs. It goes
against the Biblical principles on which we have run this company since day one. If we refuse to comply, we could face $1.3 million PER DAY in fines.

Our government threatens to fine job creators in a bad economy. Our government threatens to fine a company that's raised wages four years running. Our government threatens to fine a family for running its business according to its beliefs. It's not right. I know people will say we ought to follow the rules; that it's the same for everybody. But that's not true. The government has exempted thousands of
companies from this mandate, for reasons of convenience or cost. But it won't exempt them for reasons of religious belief.

So, Hobby Lobby and my family are forced to make a choice. With great reluctance, we filed a lawsuit today, represented by the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, asking a federal court to stop this mandate before it hurts our business. We don't like to go running into court,
but we no longer have a choice. We believe people are more important than the bottom line and that honoring God is more important than turning a profit.

My family has lived the American dream. We want to continue growing our company and providing great jobs for thousands of employees, but the government is going to make that much more difficult. The government is forcing us to choose between following our faith and following the law. I say that's a choice no American and no American business should have to make. The government cannot force you to
follow laws that go against your fundamental religious belief. They have exempted thousands of companies but will not excempt Christian organizations including the Catholic church.

Since you will not see this covered in any of the liberal media, pass this on to all your contacts.

Sincerely,
David Green, CEO and Founder of Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc.
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I love how he says he runs his business in harmony with "God's laws" but closes on Sunday and not Saturday.

These people are such idiots.
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maybe they can stay open in Oklahoma!
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99% of the people living on this earth werent planned
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100% of the people on this planet were not aborted.


Most of them appreciate it.

Some even embrace it, revere it, strive at it, and succeed at it... And you libs hate them for it. Disgusting.
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I have a friend who works there. He started out part time and was making $8 something an hour, then after about a year or two, they promoted him to full time and raised his rate to $12 something an hour. He also told me a few months ago that everyone in the store got a dollar raise, even new hires. I was like wow, I think I should go apply there. They really are a great company.
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Obama and his zombies would rather you live in poverty, begging at the foot of dear leader for meager sustenance.

If you choose otherwise you will be taxed into submission. The collective refuses to allow you individual accomplishment. They think it's unfair and wish to punish you for your efforts.
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they are so stupid, just provide the abortion pill.

Poverty is death, they will be killing all their christian employees if they go out of business.

They could still go years before they even have one single case where an employee asks them to pay for their abortion pill, and there's a million ways they could circumvent the silly law.

The devil will send a tool to ask for abortion pill coverage, just give it to the devil, to abort her devil baby, don't fall for this trick.
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I hope they shut their doors and reopen in Texas making nothing but nice shiny new AR's....

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