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Did Native Americans have access to the Bible?

 
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They didn't want any part of white devil culture.

North American Indians had complex established cultures by the time the white landed on this continent.

They had their own spiritual ways and it did include a belief in the Great Spirit.

One legend of a tribe; (cant remember the name) ; has it that a holy man from over the oceans visited their tribe and told of a man who died for them ..lll

The thing the North American Indians did wrong was

their inability to combine into one tribe for defeat

Tecumseh tried to combine the tribes but was not able

The constant tribal warfare over millennia made it impossible for him to

bridge old hatreds many tribes had for each other.

If Tecumseh was able to combine the tribes of North America, I would imagine

life would be different today.
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popcorn

major flaw in the christian myth
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My main reason for asking, as nothing more than a white girl from WV raised by baptists, is it all seems so fake the older I get.. And I genuinely want to hear someone tell me why, if Jesus is the only way, did Native Americans not know about him... Does that make sense?
 Quoting: MrsCrickets


They knew about Him! They knew about Him before He came in the flesh. The history is easily available, just many refuse to read it.
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One must pervert the teachings in the Bible in order to use it as justification for atrocities. But for the atheist, he just has to succumb to the nihlism of his naturalism to acheive the same results.
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They didn't want any part of white devil culture.

North American Indians had complex established cultures by the time the white landed on this continent.

They had their own spiritual ways and it did include a belief in the Great Spirit.

One legend of a tribe; (cant remember the name) ; has it that a holy man from over the oceans visited their tribe and told of a man who died for them ..lll

The thing the North American Indians did wrong was

their inability to combine into one tribe for defeat

Tecumseh tried to combine the tribes but was not able

The constant tribal warfare over millennia made it impossible for him to

bridge old hatreds many tribes had for each other.

If Tecumseh was able to combine the tribes of North America, I would imagine

life would be different today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32538141


The indians are a remnant people.
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I ran across Tabithas story a few years ago as she was a friend on a social site. She let me copy the story "fair use" around so was sharing it here. I was so happy to hear someone else with a (very close ) to what I had been taught story. I contacted her mom. She confirmed the story being passed down as it was to me. There is another story but not the same called "elders of the three fires" that shows Tsalagi (Cherokee) having a similar story. I have read MANY accounts of the early whites being astonished of how we had all of these bible stories. The big question has always been were some "American Indian" (yeah its OK to say that now) and Canada's first nations people from Israel? Well I am not going there but. Our little Cherokee story we believe because of its source. Sad truth is you cant hardly find it "spread about anywhere but some disconnected families here and there".
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great spirit trumps anything religion has to sell. That's why they burned us, killed us and marched us until we just said OK you win.

I'm a descendant of the famous disappeared Roanoke colony...
 Quoting: acegotflows


The native Americans were brought (or forced) into Christianity, in large numbers, going back to the early settlers. By the 1800's, Christianity was the common faith. My great-great-grandfather, a Creek Indian, was a Baptist minister in his adult years -- converted to Christianity after being imprisoned by the Union during the Civil War.

The Indian tribes, relocated by that time to Oklahoma and other 'western' states -- generally fought with the Confederates.
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They didn't want any part of white devil culture.

North American Indians had complex established cultures by the time the white landed on this continent.

They had their own spiritual ways and it did include a belief in the Great Spirit.

One legend of a tribe; (cant remember the name) ; has it that a holy man from over the oceans visited their tribe and told of a man who died for them ..lll

The thing the North American Indians did wrong was

their inability to combine into one tribe for defeat

Tecumseh tried to combine the tribes but was not able

The constant tribal warfare over millennia made it impossible for him to

bridge old hatreds many tribes had for each other.

If Tecumseh was able to combine the tribes of North America, I would imagine

life would be different today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32538141


The indians are a remnant people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22585439


So, does this play into why

the european aristocracy and church at the time went for the jugular

tried genocide on these peoples?

and then when a few were left , tried to indoctrinate them into white culture and put them

in prison camps and tortured their youth in so called

indoctrination schools??

Is this a reason why?
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If you do some research you'll see that the good book was practically crammed down their throats. So many native children were taken away from their parents and taken to Christian schools to wipe away (or try to) their ancestral knowledge and way of life.

Much more..lots of info. on the net.

Also, why would they need the bible? They lived in harmony with nature and had their own beliefs. Who is anyone to minimize that?
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the bible is suppose to teach you there is a spirit
the natives already know that
jesus did visit the natives as well
they want to kill him
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16728269


People/ groups throughout history have wanted to kill Jesus or the idea of Him. Not all spirits are the same. The "good" spirits the Native American's recognized are not the Holy Spirit the Bible recognizes. Though, I suppose, both the Bible and the NAs profess to evil spirits.
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great spirit trumps anything religion has to sell. That's why they burned us, killed us and marched us until we just said OK you win.

I'm a descendant of the famous disappeared Roanoke colony...
 Quoting: acegotflows


I'm a descendant of Pocahontas' immediate family (Chief Eagle Feather et al). Unfortunately those white guys had a lot of persistence.
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If you do some research you'll see that the good book was practically crammed down their throats. So many native children were taken away from their parents and taken to Christian schools to wipe away (or try to) their ancestral knowledge and way of life.

Much more..lots of info. on the net.

Also, why would they need the bible? They lived in harmony with nature and had their own beliefs. Who is anyone to minimize that?
 Quoting: geminilion


the bible is suppose to teach you there is a spirit
the natives already know that
jesus did visit the natives as well
they want to kill him
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16728269


People/ groups throughout history have wanted to kill Jesus or the idea of Him. Not all spirits are the same. The "good" spirits the Native American's recognized are not the Holy Spirit the Bible recognizes. Though, I suppose, both the Bible and the NAs profess to evil spirits.
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How do you know this for certain?
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this is something many religions have wrong that they are gods children and every other religion is a fake.

God sent teachers who we call the profits or messiah to different parts of the word all with similar messages its people assimilated those teachings into their culture making it unique to their area of the world. The core message of god is their in all the religions with a great deal of filler from man threw out the ages. It is no secret that religion has been used to control the masses for thousands of years you would be a fool indeed if you believed man did not manipulate that message to gain more power over others.
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If you do some research you'll see that the good book was practically crammed down their throats. So many native children were taken away from their parents and taken to Christian schools to wipe away (or try to) their ancestral knowledge and way of life.

Much more..lots of info. on the net.

Also, why would they need the bible? They lived in harmony with nature and had their own beliefs. Who is anyone to minimize that?
 Quoting: geminilion


the bible is suppose to teach you there is a spirit
the natives already know that
jesus did visit the natives as well
they want to kill him
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16728269


People/ groups throughout history have wanted to kill Jesus or the idea of Him. Not all spirits are the same. The "good" spirits the Native American's recognized are not the Holy Spirit the Bible recognizes. Though, I suppose, both the Bible and the NAs profess to evil spirits.
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How do you know this for certain?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32538141


Well, you're right, I'm not an expert on Native American sprituality. I base my statement mainly on the fact that most NAs were polytheistic and pantheistic, which contradicts the Bible's teaching of one Holy Spirit. I did hear that the Iroquois may have been monotheistic. Interesting topic, though. Spiritual beliefs aside, part of me has always longed for the NA lifestyle, though I'm sure it was full of its hardships-- even before European invasion.
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this is something many religions have wrong that they are gods children and every other religion is a fake.

God sent teachers who we call the profits or messiah to different parts of the word all with similar messages its people assimilated those teachings into their culture making it unique to their area of the world. The core message of god is their in all the religions with a great deal of filler from man threw out the ages. It is no secret that religion has been used to control the masses for thousands of years you would be a fool indeed if you believed man did not manipulate that message to gain more power over others.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32793127


THe American Indians had a complex belief system of a Great Spirit

this was their God figure do to speak. It is much like a belief in God himself ; just different wording.

The white devils who came to take their homes/lands

didn't see this as the same as their "catholic" jargon because the wording was different

and there were many language barriers

the white devils did not want to take the time to understand the indian
cultures anyway

They saw dollar signs when they landed

on this continent and this was it

the indians were doomed from the beginning
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The records of two great people were preserved, exposing a knowledge of Moses..

One group of people came to America at the time of the confusion of tongues when the tower of Babel was built. The were the nation of the Jaredites these records cover about 2247 B.C. To 421 A.D.

Second group of people came to America, the people of Lehi, a Jew who led a colony of his family and friends from Jerusalem to their American promised land in 600 B.C.

 Lehi had scriptures with him he was a descendant of Joseph (sold into Egypt, the BIBLE Joseph, coat of many color Joseph) Lehi had the teachings of Moses with him.

The records were added to and preserved in a hill after a terrible war, where those who rejected Chirst and the scriptures had killed all of the believers. The last prophet left with these Religious record buried them in a hill, and were promised that at some future time these people would suffer an invasion of the Gentile who would almost desimate and drive them, but then they the AMERICAN Indian or Mexican.. would receive these records and know their history. The Lord wants them to know they are a special people to the LORD.

The Mormons treasure the record so much, many gave their very lives as a testimony of the truthfulness of the record. It is a powerful book that exposes a visit to the American continent from Christ himself and what he taught the people here in a resurrected state.


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And if not.. Why not? We're they not important enough to be taught the ways of Jesus? I mean, if we're all God's children..wouldn't everyone have known about Him?
And would Christians of early American days have condemned them to Hell because they did not accept Christ as their savior, even though they knew nothing of him?

Please forgive my ignorance.. I'm just looking for answers

cheers
 Quoting: MrsCrickets


when Jesus walked among men, many civilizations around the world already existed....why did not the so-called god informed those people too that he had sent his '' only son '' to save them as well ? mostly a made-up story by the church and many indigenous died by their swords as consequences. [ from refusing to convert]
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i dont know about in the USA but up here in Canada they did, however the natives were herded into "residential schools" where they were subjected to horrific abuse.

here is our gov't "apology" letter for what they endured.

[link to www.aadnc-aandc.gc.ca]

all in the name of religion.

- - - - -

< 50%

The treatment of children in Indian Residential Schools is a sad chapter in our history.

For more than a century, Indian Residential Schools separated over 150,000 Aboriginal children from their families and communities. In the 1870's, the federal government, partly in order to meet its obligation to educate Aboriginal children, began to play a role in the development and administration of these schools. Two primary objectives of the Residential Schools system were to remove and isolate children from the influence of their homes, families, traditions and cultures, and to assimilate them into the dominant culture. These objectives were based on the assumption Aboriginal cultures and spiritual beliefs were inferior and unequal. Indeed, some sought, as it was infamously said, "to kill the Indian in the child". Today, we recognize that this policy of assimilation was wrong, has caused great harm, and has no place in our country.

One hundred and thirty-two federally-supported schools were located in every province and territory, except Newfoundland, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island. Most schools were operated as "joint ventures" with Anglican, Catholic, Presbyterian or United Churches. The Government of Canada built an educational system in which very young children were often forcibly removed from their homes, often taken far from their communities. Many were inadequately fed, clothed and housed. All were deprived of the care and nurturing of their parents, grandparents and communities. First Nations, Inuit and Métis languages and cultural practices were prohibited in these schools. Tragically, some of these children died while attending residential schools and others never returned home.

The government now recognizes that the consequences of the Indian Residential Schools policy were profoundly negative and that this policy has had a lasting and damaging impact on Aboriginal culture, heritage and language. While some former students have spoken positively about their experiences at residential schools, these stories are far overshadowed by tragic accounts of the emotional, physical and sexual abuse and neglect of helpless children, and their separation from powerless families and communities.

click above link for more.
 Quoting: Anubis


How. Incredibly. Depressing. :( I've heard bits here and there about this.. I'm going to read it and learn more though.. Thanks for this information .. I spend all my time as a mother trying to raise my kids to be activists of their world .. I just want to make sure I send them out into life with the same passion for what's right as I do.. Thanks for taking the time to answer :)
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MrsCrickets,
You realize the apology is from a socialist/communist canuck government, anti-religion at best. They would prefer their own brand of non-religious 'secular humanism' over any Christian religion.
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the bible is suppose to teach you there is a spirit
the natives already know that
jesus did visit the natives as well
they want to kill him
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16728269


People/ groups throughout history have wanted to kill Jesus or the idea of Him. Not all spirits are the same. The "good" spirits the Native American's recognized are not the Holy Spirit the Bible recognizes. Though, I suppose, both the Bible and the NAs profess to evil spirits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85989


How do you know this for certain?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32538141


Well, you're right, I'm not an expert on Native American sprituality. I base my statement mainly on the fact that most NAs were polytheistic and pantheistic, which contradicts the Bible's teaching of one Holy Spirit. I did hear that the Iroquois may have been monotheistic. Interesting topic, though. Spiritual beliefs aside, part of me has always longed for the NA lifestyle, though I'm sure it was full of its hardships-- even before European invasion.
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I don't know if there was ever a real study completed on this..

The cultures along with the people were killed off so fast

No one 100 or so years ago had a presence of mind or desire to learn in detail what it was all about.

I think there are books out there but not sure how accurate they are..and much detailed information is probably lost

to history.

I have studied the differences in American Indian tribes

oh my
the rich and diverse cultures that were once here

It is sad the devils got a foot hold

As far as hardships

I believe many indians today live much worse lives than their ancestors did.

Actually , many indians of the past did not live in too much hardship
if they were not warrior tribes.

Now , warrior tribes like the sioux, iriquious had many enemies

But tribes

like the Mandan Indians ; the people had good lives and they lived a long time

until disease from the white
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The bible was spread across the world like a plague. So yes, the Native Americans did have access to the bible when colonists arrived and possibly settlers of Canada and Central America. However, access and being forced to comply with a religion are two different things. The bible and it die hard advocates are largely the reason for the current state of the world today, with the wars over religion and ego.
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Figures this would be pinned on a day when I have to leave my house lol... A great deal of information here and I'm open to anything .. Can't wait to sit down and read through it. Thanks for the pin!


hf
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Ill pass out my daily karma when I have time ;)
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They didn't want any part of white devil culture.

North American Indians had complex established cultures by the time the white landed on this continent.

They had their own spiritual ways and it did include a belief in the Great Spirit.

One legend of a tribe; (cant remember the name) ; has it that a holy man from over the oceans visited their tribe and told of a man who died for them ..lll

The thing the North American Indians did wrong was

their inability to combine into one tribe for defeat

Tecumseh tried to combine the tribes but was not able

The constant tribal warfare over millennia made it impossible for him to

bridge old hatreds many tribes had for each other.

If Tecumseh was able to combine the tribes of North America, I would imagine

life would be different today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32538141


The indians are a remnant people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22585439


So, does this play into why

the european aristocracy and church at the time went for the jugular

tried genocide on these peoples?

and then when a few were left , tried to indoctrinate them into white culture and put them

in prison camps and tortured their youth in so called

indoctrination schools??

Is this a reason why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32538141


The American Indians (those peoples residing in the North and South American Continents) are a remnant of people who knew the Lord extremely well. They prospered and built magnificent civalizations but they fell into the same dilema we are facing today. The prosperity brought to them pride and that pride took them away from the teachings of the Word, and that begat the final and great fall. The remnant of those Godly people, are what were found when the gentiles discovered and then began inhabiting this great continent. They (the laminites/indians) will rise again and become a great people in the trials that are before this nation. The gentiles have destroyed the trust of God in forgetting him and committing all types of degenerated evils and the laminite people will rise out of their ash (like the Jews). Most of this will happen during the Millenium.
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The bible was spread across the world like a plague. So yes, the Native Americans did have access to the bible when colonists arrived and possibly settlers of Canada and Central America. However, access and being forced to comply with a religion are two different things. The bible and it die hard advocates are largely the reason for the current state of the world today, with the wars over religion and ego.
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The Catholic settlers did not care about the indians personally or have any respect for their culture.

Most were brutal 'religious' dictators

I would imagine any word getting into the other tribes about the white devils religion would have had THIS

information attached to it and NOT any form of pleasantries...
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They didn't want any part of white devil culture.

North American Indians had complex established cultures by the time the white landed on this continent.

They had their own spiritual ways and it did include a belief in the Great Spirit.

One legend of a tribe; (cant remember the name) ; has it that a holy man from over the oceans visited their tribe and told of a man who died for them ..lll

The thing the North American Indians did wrong was

their inability to combine into one tribe for defeat

Tecumseh tried to combine the tribes but was not able

The constant tribal warfare over millennia made it impossible for him to

bridge old hatreds many tribes had for each other.

If Tecumseh was able to combine the tribes of North America, I would imagine

life would be different today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32538141


The indians are a remnant people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22585439


So, does this play into why

the european aristocracy and church at the time went for the jugular

tried genocide on these peoples?

and then when a few were left , tried to indoctrinate them into white culture and put them

in prison camps and tortured their youth in so called

indoctrination schools??

Is this a reason why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32538141


The American Indians (those peoples residing in the North and South American Continents) are a remnant of people who knew the Lord extremely well. They prospered and built magnificent civalizations but they fell into the same dilema we are facing today. The prosperity brought to them pride and that pride took them away from the teachings of the Word, and that begat the final and great fall. The remnant of those Godly people, are what were found when the gentiles discovered and then began inhabiting this great continent. They (the laminites/indians) will rise again and become a great people in the trials that are before this nation. The gentiles have destroyed the trust of God in forgetting him and committing all types of degenerated evils and the laminite people will rise out of their ash (like the Jews). Most of this will happen during the Millenium.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22585439


hf
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I ran across Tabithas story a few years ago as she was a friend on a social site. She let me copy the story "fair use" around so was sharing it here. I was so happy to hear someone else with a (very close ) to what I had been taught story. I contacted her mom. She confirmed the story being passed down as it was to me. There is another story but not the same called "elders of the three fires" that shows Tsalagi (Cherokee) having a similar story. I have read MANY accounts of the early whites being astonished of how we had all of these bible stories. The big question has always been were some "American Indian" (yeah its OK to say that now) and Canada's first nations people from Israel? Well I am not going there but. Our little Cherokee story we believe because of its source. Sad truth is you cant hardly find it "spread about anywhere but some disconnected families here and there".
 Quoting: Giduwa


Both my husband and I are Pipe carriers for the Ojibway (akaChippewa) nations and born into good Catholic families. Here is what we know:
*2,000 years ago, a semantic man dressed in white and named variations of Jeshua, visited almost 1000 tribes in the us and canada and healed many and taught them the sacred way to live. Details in a book called "He walked the Americas" or similar title. at this time there was the Old testament but no New Testament exsisted until 3-400 a.d. when the Catholic church took the hundreds of writings and selected the most credible and formed the New Testament.

*Middle ages: St. Mary of Agreda bilocated to the Natives of the Southwest and catechised them with love and patience.
Her diary, before Columbus acurately described the Navajo and Hopi people.

*1500sWhite buffalo Woman, whom some think was the Blessed mother, appeared to the Lakota and instructed them how to pray including contemplative prayer, fasting and the sweat lodge to cleanse sins and bad habits...and the Pipe:Offering prayer to the heavenly Father or "Great
mystery"
*the SPanish, just free of muslim rule arrive. Later, they had chaplains with who tried to help but failed miserably as these southwest peoples, living a good life were enslaved and murdered.
*1641: The Ojibway at sault Ste. Marie, MI invited the jesuits to come to teach. The Mohawks, a fierce people had no use for them and murdered them left and right.(see "seven north american martyrs).But we wanted that education. Our medicine people had many prophecies about their coming and we believed AS DID MOST NATIVES IN N. AMERICA IN ONE GOD, one Creator. So the transition was easier. They spoke our difficult language and read the Bible to us, old and new testament.

*18th century Venerable BIshop Baraga develops and prints, at his own expense a dictionary of our language and prayer books with the GOspel in Ojibway as well, He had a law degree and counseled our leaders in the treaties we were forced to make so that we got fishing, hunting, gathering AND free educational rights. He walked 1000 -2000 miles a year in summer and in snowshoes in winter. once he was on his way by dogsled to sugar island and the ice broke open and our people saw his sleddogs and sled run over the open water like it was glass. we were lucky, his guidance allowed us to escape the horrid death camps called Indian boarding schools (48% death rate) where the govt chose a religion for us. We were not citizens till 1929, and did not have freedom of religion til 1974. Yes, 1974. I have read the BIble cover to cover twice and go to Mass 3-4 times a week. God did not ever forget us.
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Ill pass out my daily karma when I have time ;)
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You are Welcome! I used most of my green to do it. (hint hint)
I am surprised it has not degenerated as quickly as other indigenous threads do!
Ernest saves Iran -coming soon
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Both my husband and I are Pipe carriers for the Ojibway (akaChippewa) nations and born into good Catholic families. Here is what we know:
*2,000 years ago, a semantic man dressed in white and named variations of Jeshua, visited almost 1000 tribes in the us and canada and healed many and taught them the sacred way to live. Details in a book called "He walked the Americas" or similar title. at this time there was the Old testament but no New Testament exsisted until 3-400 a.d. when the Catholic church took the hundreds of writings and selected the most credible and formed the New Testament.

*Middle ages: St. Mary of Agreda bilocated to the Natives of the Southwest and catechised them with love and patience.
Her diary, before Columbus acurately described the Navajo and Hopi people.

*1500sWhite buffalo Woman, whom some think was the Blessed mother, appeared to the Lakota and instructed them how to pray including contemplative prayer, fasting and the sweat lodge to cleanse sins and bad habits...and the Pipe:Offering prayer to the heavenly Father or "Great
mystery"
*the SPanish, just free of muslim rule arrive. Later, they had chaplains with who tried to help but failed miserably as these southwest peoples, living a good life were enslaved and murdered.
*1641: The Ojibway at sault Ste. Marie, MI invited the jesuits to come to teach. The Mohawks, a fierce people had no use for them and murdered them left and right.(see "seven north american martyrs).But we wanted that education. Our medicine people had many prophecies about their coming and we believed AS DID MOST NATIVES IN N. AMERICA IN ONE GOD, one Creator. So the transition was easier. They spoke our difficult language and read the Bible to us, old and new testament.

*18th century Venerable BIshop Baraga develops and prints, at his own expense a dictionary of our language and prayer books with the GOspel in Ojibway as well, He had a law degree and counseled our leaders in the treaties we were forced to make so that we got fishing, hunting, gathering AND free educational rights. He walked 1000 -2000 miles a year in summer and in snowshoes in winter. once he was on his way by dogsled to sugar island and the ice broke open and our people saw his sleddogs and sled run over the open water like it was glass. we were lucky, his guidance allowed us to escape the horrid death camps called Indian boarding schools (48% death rate) where the govt chose a religion for us. We were not citizens till 1929, and did not have freedom of religion til 1974. Yes, 1974. I have read the BIble cover to cover twice and go to Mass 3-4 times a week. God did not ever forget us.
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wow, very informative, thx.
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Did Native Americans have access to the Bible?

Yes. Absolutely.

At the following link is a description and pictures of one of the oldest surviving copies of the Ten Commandments (a Decalogue). It is etched onto the smooth side of a large rock and the language it is written in is ancient Hebrew.

It is called the Los Lunas Dacalogue Stone.

This Decalogue is located in some rock formations in New Mexico in the American southwest which is home to many Native American tribes.

The Los Lunas Decalogue Stone is thought to have been written by an ancient Hebrew people. Its origin dates back approx. 3,000 years ago.

The Los Lunas Decalogue Stone first became well known "to the World" in the 1850s. However, at that time the local people had already been well aware of it for a very long time.

What is also very interesting is that sincethe discovery of the Los Lunas Decalogue Stone, researchers have determined that tehre aremany similarlities between the spoken language,songs, festivals, and observances during festivals between many Native American tribes and the ancient Hebrews.

[link to www.ancient-hebrew.org]
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I looked to see if anyone put this info up. Yes the 10 Commandments are there and also there is various Cherokee beliefs and words which are very similar to Ancient Hebrew.
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Did Native Americans have access to the Bible?

Yes. Absolutely.

At the following link is a description and pictures of one of the oldest surviving copies of the Ten Commandments (a Decalogue). It is etched onto the smooth side of a large rock and the language it is written in is ancient Hebrew.

It is called the Los Lunas Dacalogue Stone.

This Decalogue is located in some rock formations in New Mexico in the American southwest which is home to many Native American tribes.

The Los Lunas Decalogue Stone is thought to have been written by an ancient Hebrew people. Its origin dates back approx. 3,000 years ago.

The Los Lunas Decalogue Stone first became well known "to the World" in the 1850s. However, at that time the local people had already been well aware of it for a very long time.

What is also very interesting is that sincethe discovery of the Los Lunas Decalogue Stone, researchers have determined that tehre aremany similarlities between the spoken language,songs, festivals, and observances during festivals between many Native American tribes and the ancient Hebrews.

[link to www.ancient-hebrew.org]
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I looked to see if anyone put this info up. Yes the 10 Commandments are there and also there is various Cherokee beliefs and words which are very similar to Ancient Hebrew.
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the 10 commandments are not biblical. Tibetan book of the dead had the same stuff. We're just brainwashed to think in a certain mindset
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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I could be wrong but I think the Mormons might have thought the Indians. I was talking with some missionaries for a while and I think they mentioned that
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they question the OP poses is about the native americans prior to european contact
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Mormons teach that Jesus ministered in the Americas after his resurrection, and that Native Americans are of the "lost tribes of Israel" who rejected the Christ and had their skin darkened by God because of it.
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major flaw in the christian myth
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My main reason for asking, as nothing more than a white girl from WV raised by baptists, is it all seems so fake the older I get.. And I genuinely want to hear someone tell me why, if Jesus is the only way, did Native Americans not know about him... Does that make sense?
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God reveals Himself to all who seek Him. I beleive He revealed Himself to them.....as their Great Creator, whatever name they called Him.

Did they need "white man's God"? NOPE.

White men still sought to force it on them, and then did all the unspeakable things we are reading about in this thread. So sad. makes me embarrassed to call myself a christian. I believe those folks probably THOUGHT they were doing a good thing, but so deluded. LOTS of folks today are doing it, too. Thinking themselves "better" than the SINNERS they want to save.

Even Jesus recognized it, and called the religi-tards of his day HYPOCRITES for it.

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