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Did Native Americans have access to the Bible?

 
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My main reason for asking, as nothing more than a white girl from WV raised by baptists, is it all seems so fake the older I get.. And I genuinely want to hear someone tell me why, if Jesus is the only way, did Native Americans not know about him... Does that make sense?
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you are on the right path.

not just native americans. think about all of the people worldwide who never even heard of jesus until generations later.
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There is no flaw in the Bible.
Jesus is the only way.
Prayerfully read Romans chapter 1; it explains that no one dies without a chance to know God.
There was an age of conscience; in the Old Testament the age of Law and sacrifices is described.
The New Testament clearly shows us that Jesus fulfilled all the laws and died to cover our sins. He made The Way to cover our sins. Verses 18-21 addresses the question of the "heathen" or the people before Christ who never had access to the Scriptures and to the knowledge of the Cross of Christ. They knew by instinct; God has put His knowledge in their hearts. Men knew God from the beginning. There is enough knowledge in conscience and in nature to induce an awe and reverence for the Creator. Now that the knowledge of the Cross has permeated the earth, no one has an excuse to be ignorant of the Cross, either.
God judges men by the light they have received. Anyone anywhere who has not received the knowledge of His salvation in our present age has no excuse. Those in the age of conscience and nature saw His revelation and no one has an excuse!
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you are insane and should be institutionalized IMMEDIATELY if you truly believe that. Just by your words YOU don't know "Jesus". I'm not saying that I'm an authority on it, but I know DELUSIONAL when I hear it.
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Your knee WILL bow and your tongue WILL confess that Jesus Christ is Lord... you really should do it now....if you do it on the other side, it's too late for you
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you are on the right path.

not just native americans. think about all of the people worldwide who never even heard of jesus until generations later.
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There is no flaw in the Bible.
Jesus is the only way.
Prayerfully read Romans chapter 1; it explains that no one dies without a chance to know God.
There was an age of conscience; in the Old Testament the age of Law and sacrifices is described.
The New Testament clearly shows us that Jesus fulfilled all the laws and died to cover our sins. He made The Way to cover our sins. Verses 18-21 addresses the question of the "heathen" or the people before Christ who never had access to the Scriptures and to the knowledge of the Cross of Christ. They knew by instinct; God has put His knowledge in their hearts. Men knew God from the beginning. There is enough knowledge in conscience and in nature to induce an awe and reverence for the Creator. Now that the knowledge of the Cross has permeated the earth, no one has an excuse to be ignorant of the Cross, either.
God judges men by the light they have received. Anyone anywhere who has not received the knowledge of His salvation in our present age has no excuse. Those in the age of conscience and nature saw His revelation and no one has an excuse!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34956995


you are insane and should be institutionalized IMMEDIATELY if you truly believe that. Just by your words YOU don't know "Jesus". I'm not saying that I'm an authority on it, but I know DELUSIONAL when I hear it.
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Your knee WILL bow and your tongue WILL confess that Jesus Christ is Lord... you really should do it now....if you do it on the other side, it's too late for you
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the only Lord I listen to for a gameplan is this guy

"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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you are on the right path.

not just native americans. think about all of the people worldwide who never even heard of jesus until generations later.
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There is no flaw in the Bible.
Jesus is the only way.
Prayerfully read Romans chapter 1; it explains that no one dies without a chance to know God.
There was an age of conscience; in the Old Testament the age of Law and sacrifices is described.
The New Testament clearly shows us that Jesus fulfilled all the laws and died to cover our sins. He made The Way to cover our sins. Verses 18-21 addresses the question of the "heathen" or the people before Christ who never had access to the Scriptures and to the knowledge of the Cross of Christ. They knew by instinct; God has put His knowledge in their hearts. Men knew God from the beginning. There is enough knowledge in conscience and in nature to induce an awe and reverence for the Creator. Now that the knowledge of the Cross has permeated the earth, no one has an excuse to be ignorant of the Cross, either.
God judges men by the light they have received. Anyone anywhere who has not received the knowledge of His salvation in our present age has no excuse. Those in the age of conscience and nature saw His revelation and no one has an excuse!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34956995


you are insane and should be institutionalized IMMEDIATELY if you truly believe that. Just by your words YOU don't know "Jesus". I'm not saying that I'm an authority on it, but I know DELUSIONAL when I hear it.
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Your knee WILL bow and your tongue WILL confess that Jesus Christ is Lord... you really should do it now....if you do it on the other side, it's too late for you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34956995


holy moly! a whole 6 pages before you got to the threats,

you must be slipping.
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My theory, from a christian standpoint, is that the Native Americans were an extension of the Incan, Myan, and Aztec races. I believe those blood lines were corrupted by the Nephilim even after the great flood, therefore negating any chance they may have had at salvation.
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Wow! this has to be the most ridiculous, small-minded, bigoted, separatist, uneducated, elitist, religiously-dogma-filled statement I've read on GLP today!

And we wonder what's wrong with the human race!
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There is no flaw in the Bible.
Jesus is the only way.
Prayerfully read Romans chapter 1; it explains that no one dies without a chance to know God.
There was an age of conscience; in the Old Testament the age of Law and sacrifices is described.
The New Testament clearly shows us that Jesus fulfilled all the laws and died to cover our sins. He made The Way to cover our sins. Verses 18-21 addresses the question of the "heathen" or the people before Christ who never had access to the Scriptures and to the knowledge of the Cross of Christ. They knew by instinct; God has put His knowledge in their hearts. Men knew God from the beginning. There is enough knowledge in conscience and in nature to induce an awe and reverence for the Creator. Now that the knowledge of the Cross has permeated the earth, no one has an excuse to be ignorant of the Cross, either.
God judges men by the light they have received. Anyone anywhere who has not received the knowledge of His salvation in our present age has no excuse. Those in the age of conscience and nature saw His revelation and no one has an excuse!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34956995


you are insane and should be institutionalized IMMEDIATELY if you truly believe that. Just by your words YOU don't know "Jesus". I'm not saying that I'm an authority on it, but I know DELUSIONAL when I hear it.
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Your knee WILL bow and your tongue WILL confess that Jesus Christ is Lord... you really should do it now....if you do it on the other side, it's too late for you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34956995


holy moly! a whole 6 pages before you got to the threats,

you must be slipping.
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funny

chuckle
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you are on the right path.

not just native americans. think about all of the people worldwide who never even heard of jesus until generations later.
 Quoting: Oyster




There is no flaw in the Bible.
Jesus is the only way.
Prayerfully read Romans chapter 1; it explains that no one dies without a chance to know God.
There was an age of conscience; in the Old Testament the age of Law and sacrifices is described.
The New Testament clearly shows us that Jesus fulfilled all the laws and died to cover our sins. He made The Way to cover our sins. Verses 18-21 addresses the question of the "heathen" or the people before Christ who never had access to the Scriptures and to the knowledge of the Cross of Christ. They knew by instinct; God has put His knowledge in their hearts. Men knew God from the beginning. There is enough knowledge in conscience and in nature to induce an awe and reverence for the Creator. Now that the knowledge of the Cross has permeated the earth, no one has an excuse to be ignorant of the Cross, either.
God judges men by the light they have received. Anyone anywhere who has not received the knowledge of His salvation in our present age has no excuse. Those in the age of conscience and nature saw His revelation and no one has an excuse!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34956995


you are insane and should be institutionalized IMMEDIATELY if you truly believe that. Just by your words YOU don't know "Jesus". I'm not saying that I'm an authority on it, but I know DELUSIONAL when I hear it.
 Quoting: acegotflows




Your knee WILL bow and your tongue WILL confess that Jesus Christ is Lord... you really should do it now....if you do it on the other side, it's too late for you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34956995


Ok I'll make a deal with you. My Name is Nehemiah E. Woody. Tell your god Jesus or whatever to come tell me to my face. His followers seem to be IDIOTS and can't seem to convey a message properly. I'll be waiting...

whatever
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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The aborigines have always worshipped the sun and Mother Nature.. Way too smart to get sucked into religion. I know loads of them and there isn't a Christian amongst them..
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My grandfather told me of the story of 'The Light skinned Being' that came to N America in days of old...He taught the people how to live right with the Earth...How to treat others...And about 'The Great Father' that lives in the heaves...So yes our great ancestors knew about your Jesus
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Did ya all see the thread the other day where the delightful intelligent Christians were arguing about whether babies go to heaven? Pathetic it was..
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My theory, from a christian standpoint, is that the Native Americans were an extension of the Incan, Myan, and Aztec races. I believe those blood lines were corrupted by the Nephilim even after the great flood, therefore negating any chance they may have had at salvation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33460471


Wow! this has to be the most ridiculous, small-minded, bigoted, separatist, uneducated, elitist, religiously-dogma-filled statement I've read on GLP today!

And we wonder what's wrong with the human race!
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doomed to the lake of fire, before they were even born.
just about takes your breath away doesn't it?
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The aborigines have always worshipped the sun and Mother Nature.. Way too smart to get sucked into religion. I know loads of them and there isn't a Christian amongst them..
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"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Did ya all see the thread the other day where the delightful intelligent Christians were arguing about whether babies go to heaven? Pathetic it was..
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Well,

now 4 and 5 year old murder

they get younger all the time
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popcorn

major flaw in the christian myth
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Not if you read the book of mormon
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The aborigines have always worshipped the sun and Mother Nature.. Way too smart to get sucked into religion. I know loads of them and there isn't a Christian amongst them..
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BINGO!
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There is no flaw in the Bible.
Jesus is the only way.
Prayerfully read Romans chapter 1; it explains that no one dies without a chance to know God.
There was an age of conscience; in the Old Testament the age of Law and sacrifices is described.
The New Testament clearly shows us that Jesus fulfilled all the laws and died to cover our sins. He made The Way to cover our sins. Verses 18-21 addresses the question of the "heathen" or the people before Christ who never had access to the Scriptures and to the knowledge of the Cross of Christ. They knew by instinct; God has put His knowledge in their hearts. Men knew God from the beginning. There is enough knowledge in conscience and in nature to induce an awe and reverence for the Creator. Now that the knowledge of the Cross has permeated the earth, no one has an excuse to be ignorant of the Cross, either.
God judges men by the light they have received. Anyone anywhere who has not received the knowledge of His salvation in our present age has no excuse. Those in the age of conscience and nature saw His revelation and no one has an excuse!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34956995


you are insane and should be institutionalized IMMEDIATELY if you truly believe that. Just by your words YOU don't know "Jesus". I'm not saying that I'm an authority on it, but I know DELUSIONAL when I hear it.
 Quoting: acegotflows




Your knee WILL bow and your tongue WILL confess that Jesus Christ is Lord... you really should do it now....if you do it on the other side, it's too late for you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34956995


holy moly! a whole 6 pages before you got to the threats,

you must be slipping.
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so I got this as a negative Karma

"Funny, someone says something you don't agree with and they need to be institutionalized. But you 'know' Jesus right? Irony"

Irony- I WAS INSTITUTIONALIZED for the damage that Christians DID to me. I shook that cult a while ago. Would you like to hear stories of how they break you into accepting things that are not natural?
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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It's also rumored that Ningishzidda (son of Enki) and Ninurta (son of Enlil) both set up camps in the Americas among the natives :)
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you are insane and should be institutionalized IMMEDIATELY if you truly believe that. Just by your words YOU don't know "Jesus". I'm not saying that I'm an authority on it, but I know DELUSIONAL when I hear it.
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Your knee WILL bow and your tongue WILL confess that Jesus Christ is Lord... you really should do it now....if you do it on the other side, it's too late for you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34956995


holy moly! a whole 6 pages before you got to the threats,

you must be slipping.
 Quoting: davId 33758960

funny

chuckle
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get your giggles in now

the wicked are like murderers who believe the cops will never catch up with them, and that they'll never be judged in court

unfortunately for them, all will most certainly be judged and held accountable by Jesus Christ, man's creator (2 Cor. 5:10)

for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. (Rom. 12:19)
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i think the christians did an excellent job of destroying native american societies...
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It's also rumored that Ningishzidda (son of Enki) and Ninurta (son of Enlil) both set up camps in the Americas among the natives :)
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That is the true story of the 'Light Skinned Beings'...But the KJB Jesus was thrown in the mix after the Settelers come ashore...Then the killing in the name of god started...Sad times
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My grandfather told me of the story of 'The Light skinned Being' that came to N America in days of old...He taught the people how to live right with the Earth...How to treat others...And about 'The Great Father' that lives in the heaves...So yes our great ancestors knew about your Jesus
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He is everyone's Jesus
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It's also rumored that Ningishzidda (son of Enki) and Ninurta (son of Enlil) both set up camps in the Americas among the natives :)
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That is the true story of the 'Light Skinned Beings'...But the KJB Jesus was thrown in the mix after the Settelers come ashore...Then the killing in the name of god started...Sad times
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I don't see why people kill in the name of gods. if they just stopped it maybe the gods would come back and set us all straight

just a thought
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It's also rumored that Ningishzidda (son of Enki) and Ninurta (son of Enlil) both set up camps in the Americas among the natives :)
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That is the true story of the 'Light Skinned Beings'...But the KJB Jesus was thrown in the mix after the Settelers come ashore...Then the killing in the name of god started...Sad times
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Yes, I knew you knew that!! :) (months ago, we discussed it)
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It's also rumored that Ningishzidda (son of Enki) and Ninurta (son of Enlil) both set up camps in the Americas among the natives :)
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That is the true story of the 'Light Skinned Beings'...But the KJB Jesus was thrown in the mix after the Settelers come ashore...Then the killing in the name of god started...Sad times
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Yes, I knew you knew that!! :) (months ago, we discussed it)
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ohyeah
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Your knee WILL bow and your tongue WILL confess that Jesus Christ is Lord... you really should do it now....if you do it on the other side, it's too late for you
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holy moly! a whole 6 pages before you got to the threats,

you must be slipping.
 Quoting: davId 33758960

funny

chuckle
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get your giggles in now

the wicked are like murderers who believe the cops will never catch up with them, and that they'll never be judged in court

unfortunately for them, all will most certainly be judged and held accountable by Jesus Christ, man's creator (2 Cor. 5:10)

for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. (Rom. 12:19)
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God already told me He liked my sense of humor.

He said it was an asset I will need in the bad times to come on this earth.

so,

chuckle chuckle

all I want
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Im not sure about other christian sects, but catholics dont hold it against people that have not heard of jesus. They are judged solely on how they lived their life and treated others. However once you have learned about jesus and his message, then you are held responsible if you still choose to deny him. That would mean according to catholics every muslim and jew will end up in hell because they know about jesus yet deny his message. Its a hard pill to swallow if your not a christian, but thats the way it is taught. Native americans would have a place in heaven as long as they lived their life good.
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No they did not and for that they will rot in hell forever and ever epecially if they were worshiping idoles unless they accepted Jesus at the time of death. This entire notion of salvation through religion does not make sence. Yes I know Jesus died on the cross for past present and future sinners. But It still dont make any sense.
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Im not sure about other christian sects, but catholics dont hold it against people that have not heard of jesus. They are judged solely on how they lived their life and treated others. However once you have learned about jesus and his message, then you are held responsible if you still choose to deny him. That would mean according to catholics every muslim and jew will end up in hell because they know about jesus yet deny his message. Its a hard pill to swallow if your not a christian, but thats the way it is taught. Native americans would have a place in heaven as long as they lived their life good.
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God judges your "heart" No religion is needed for that. It is a personal journey. Which is why religion being involved is already twisted and agenda based.

THINK about it. But that is who they target... the ones who still can think enough to question the real intent involved
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Native americans would have a place in heaven as long as they lived their life good.
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This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. (Matt. 15:8-9)

For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law (Rom. 2:12)

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God (Rom. 3:23)

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. (John 3:5)

And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Mark 16:15-16)


God judges your "heart" No religion is needed for that. It is a personal journey.
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The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked (Jer. 17:9)

There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. (Prov. 14;12)

I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. (John 8:24)
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My theory, from a christian standpoint, is that the Native Americans were an extension of the Incan, Myan, and Aztec races. I believe those blood lines were corrupted by the Nephilim even after the great flood, therefore negating any chance they may have had at salvation.
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LoL complete opposite thing AC Those Nephilim need them ..!

by inbreeding with the american indian, they were able to get rid of the six toes, giantism stuff, hence all the kidnapping of the Indians.

That's why the abductions of ANYONE with American Indian DNA in their bloodline. They need the DNA to sneak in their breeders. And these "half-breeds" - half Nephillim and half human, are what you see around you, looking somewhat normal. Until they shift.

Now Stone did a movie on Morrison, showing the relationship between the American Indian - atlantean DNA - and the reptilians, by all the lizards and stuff he kept flashing in the movie.

Watch it again, WITH NEW EYES.

The main reason the "gubmint" is cataloging dna is to find every possible American Indian dna strand out there..!

AnyWay..!
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Native americans would have a place in heaven as long as they lived their life good.
 Quoting: acegotflows

This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. (Matt. 15:8-9)

For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law (Rom. 2:12)

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God (Rom. 3:23)

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. (John 3:5)

And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Mark 16:15-16)


God judges your "heart" No religion is needed for that. It is a personal journey.
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The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked (Jer. 17:9)

There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. (Prov. 14;12)

I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. (John 8:24)
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English is a dialect and not a language. Just by quoting something that is supposed to be of God but is already in a dialect that can't even give you proper translations because WE DO NOT DEFINE EVERY WORD BY ETYMOLOGY but by accepted meaning, we are already butchering any semblance of truth in that Book.

This is how language works. Care to argue that one with a Bible verse?
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