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Sorry Old People, CDC Admits Flu Shot Specifically Killing Elderly

 
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Maybe if lucky
some of the old fks will stick around and enjoy the show
popcorn If not...que sera sera. I know I had a nice long run. lmao Snotty little shitferbrains.granny
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The bitter old folks...iamwithburnit Shoulda turned off the TV when Archie Bunker was still on.
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Your right. No need being bitter over some punk gloating
over his elders systematic murder. ooops sorry
I just poopooed....NURSE!!!
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Psssst! Tell ya little secret...watch Archie B
first season....but try to IGNORE the fake laugh track
(the one used to program you to laugh when they want you to
laugh and shit when they tell you to shit)and listen to
what Archie says...not how the people around him react.
If you can do that (Doubt it) you will move up a rung
in your ladder of understanding.
NOw where the hell is that nurse? NURSE!!!angryface
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It's the flu,not the plague! You get the flu... you get over it or develope secondary complications. Usually, antibiotics will take care of this unless you are compromised in some way. We have all been led astray!
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The flu is a virus not a bacterial infection. Antibiotics won't do shit to a virus.
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My mom is 67 and never misses getting her flu shot. She has been sick on and off all fall and winter with a cold, bronchitis, feeling in general crappy.....wonder if this has anything to do with it. I didn't get the flu shot and have been healthy without even a cold.
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Yay I am getting tired of old people.. they smell funny.
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and you will be one of them sooner than you think
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It's the flu,not the plague! You get the flu... you get over it or develope secondary complications. Usually, antibiotics will take care of this unless you are compromised in some way. We have all been led astray!
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The flu is a virus not a bacterial infection. Antibiotics won't do shit to a virus.
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I know this! I an everyone knows this by now! I was trying to make a point!
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I told my grandparents not to get it but they said their doctor makes them every year well this year they were deathly ill for 2 weeks they had to get antibiotics to help them get over it
I wonder if they are trying to kill off the elderly social security dependents
KITKAT123
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Funny you mention this. Up to now I couldn't understand why every age group Except for the elderly were having bad reactions to injectables.

Seriously I think there are shots chillin' in the champagne bucket for some and hot sewage for others.
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I'm 54, not too old just yet but Ii never take flu shots and I haven't been sick for decades now, not even a common cold.
Husband had to go to a Hilton hotel classroom situation for his job 3 days in a row and dragged some nasty bug back with him.

I am so glad I am over it!

It seemed really odd though, not your normal flu.
Seemed like some of my tiny nose lining cells were ruptured and weeping, nothing more than 1 cm wide. (Not normal for me)
Spent 4 days on home oxygen and had absolutely no hunger at all. (Not being hungry is not normal for me).
Had trouble breathing for about 8 days.
I always keep a stock of human antibiotic around and I had a z-pac in the fridge or else I would not be here typing this.

I am not sure what this is but this is not the flu I grew up with, this thing seemed hybred AND manufactured.
Definitely built to kill.

I am glad I caught it the normal way though, hopefully my immune system can build some kind of defense against it next time around.
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Yes, the FLU is a virus but when it lodges deep into your lungs and you can't cough up the crud, it sits there and ferments and becomes a secondary bacterial infection!

SO.... ANTIBIOTICS CAN SAVE YOUR LIFE WITH THE FLU, if it has caused a SECONDARY lung infection.

Fracking idiots!

The secondary infection is what kills most old folks, pneumonia is the number one cause of death in the elderly.
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I'm 54, not too old just yet but Ii never take flu shots and I haven't been sick for decades now, not even a common cold.
Husband had to go to a Hilton hotel classroom situation for his job 3 days in a row and dragged some nasty bug back with him.

I am so glad I am over it!

It seemed really odd though, not your normal flu.
Seemed like some of my tiny nose lining cells were ruptured and weeping, nothing more than 1 cm wide. (Not normal for me)
Spent 4 days on home oxygen and had absolutely no hunger at all. (Not being hungry is not normal for me).
Had trouble breathing for about 8 days.
I always keep a stock of human antibiotic around and I had a z-pac in the fridge or else I would not be here typing this.

I am not sure what this is but this is not the flu I grew up with, this thing seemed hybred AND manufactured.
Definitely built to kill.

I am glad I caught it the normal way though, hopefully my immune system can build some kind of defense against it next time around.
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I had the flu one time. That was back in'62. I was in the sixth grade. I was very sick for a week. Mother treated me with Bayer and Vicks salve. Through 3 children and a husband having the flu 2 or 3 times, I never got it. Even at 62 and no shot, I am well!
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So the flu shot worked alright in prevention statistics, However...... It was only 9% effective against the elderly.


Hmmm, last time I checked the elderly made antibodys like me and you so why did it not cause a reaction in them. Tata Grandma, big daddy FED wants that estate tax.
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The term is senior citizens not old people, fucktard.
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link or stink hf
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It was all over NPR news tonight and BBC as well.
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I told my grandparents not to get it but they said their doctor makes them every year well this year they were deathly ill for 2 weeks they had to get antibiotics to help them get over it
I wonder if they are trying to kill off the elderly social security dependents
 Quoting: KITKAT123


You hit it right there.

The government cannot afford to pay SS so they want old people to hurry up and die.

That is it right there.
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So the flu shot worked alright in prevention statistics, However...... It was only 9% effective against the elderly.


Hmmm, last time I checked the elderly made antibodys like me and you so why did it not cause a reaction in them. Tata Grandma, big daddy FED wants that estate tax.
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The term is senior citizens not old people, fucktard.
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Codgers and hags.
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Yes, the FLU is a virus but when it lodges deep into your lungs and you can't cough up the crud, it sits there and ferments and becomes a secondary bacterial infection!

SO.... ANTIBIOTICS CAN SAVE YOUR LIFE WITH THE FLU, if it has caused a SECONDARY lung infection.

Fracking idiots!

The secondary infection is what kills most old folks, pneumonia is the number one cause of death in the elderly.
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Yes! Some seem to be too dumb to understand this!
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Hmmm, last time I checked the elderly made antibodys like me and you so why did it not cause a reaction in them. Tata Grandma, big daddy FED wants that estate tax.

They don't make antibodies like you. The immune system weakens as it ages. Its ridiculously well known that the effectiveness of vaccines is lower on the elderly. Which is unfortunate...as the elderly are generally those with the greatest danger to the effects of the flu.

And if you took antibiotics to get over the sickness that followed a flu shot....then the flu shot wasn't what made you sick. The flu is a virus. Antibiotics don't effect viruses.
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For the last ten years my MD tells me to get a flu shot. And I tell him I already did at Walgreens or someplace other than his office. End of story. In truth I haven't taken the damned things in over a decade and I have NOT had the flu - not even once as a light cold symptoms since I stopped with the flu shot garbage. I am a retired MD and I know enough science to know what's in those damned things. My own physician insists on going along with the CDC party line. But then legally speaking, there is little else he can do without fear of loosing his license for "not" advising his patients to take a flu vax. The government wants the elderly to take it so badly that Medicare will pay for it without even a deductible!
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there is no doubt something in them. even my spouse, who is not conspiracy minded, says there has to be something in those shots, for them to push them as hard as they do.
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They push it on the elderly because if they do get the flu they find it harder to shake the secondary infections like pneumonia.

If you don't want granny getting the flu shot because it might jeopardise her long term health , that's fine but she will likely die from complications in the short term if she gets the flu.
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I am not sure what this is but this is not the flu I grew up with, this thing seemed hybred AND manufactured.
Definitely built to kill.


There's simply no evidence of that. The deadliest flu in modern history *long* predated genetic engineering or even an understanding of DNA. Sometimes nature just throws you a curve ball.

Flu seasons vary with severity. Some are mild. Some are not. This year's was the worst in about a decade. But 'built to kill'?

Built by whom? Backed by what evidence?
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I am a retired MD and I know enough science to know what's in those damned things.

Then what's in those damn things?
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Hmmm, last time I checked the elderly made antibodys like me and you so why did it not cause a reaction in them. Tata Grandma, big daddy FED wants that estate tax.

They don't make antibodies like you. The immune system weakens as it ages. Its ridiculously well known that the effectiveness of vaccines is lower on the elderly. Which is unfortunate...as the elderly are generally those with the greatest danger to the effects of the flu.

And if you took antibiotics to get over the sickness that followed a flu shot....then the flu shot wasn't what made you sick. The flu is a virus. Antibiotics don't effect viruses.
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Keep telling yourself that!
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one thing i have not seen here is acknowlegement of the fact that flu type infections prolong the life of most sufferers by doing that which nature intends, i.e. cleaning out quantities of gunk in the pipe system of which the body is composed that would otherwise continue to accumulate and strangle the system's vitality. this clogging, of course, is caused by the ingestion and partial retention of heavy and devitalized 'foods' so popular in our cultures. fasting or partial fasting as well as dietary improvement (slower) accomplishes the same thing without the symptoms. now, if a person is sufficiently weak or debilitated by lifestyle, age and/or self-abuse, the flu can finish them, with or without treatment.

yeah, try to stay away from needles, doctors and hospitals -- fo sho!
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Flu vaccines are highly ineffective and toxic

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, "The following substances are found in flu vaccines: aluminum, antibiotics, egg protein, formaldehyde, human aborted fetal apparatus (dead human tissue), monosodium glutamate (MSG), and thimerosol (mercury)."

[link to www.naturalnews.com]

uhoh
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I went to visit an elderly friend at the hospital. He had to go to the ER due to constipation. They really didn't pass any chances to give him all the shots unrelated to why he was there. Pneumonia, flu and the best thing was that as i was there he was scheduled to get a flu shot. he told me they already gave him one in the morning, so we were able to stop them last minute before they gave him a second shot the same day. It wasn't clear whether they did that on purpose or had a messy record keeping.
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Flu vaccines are highly ineffective and toxic

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, "The following substances are found in flu vaccines: aluminum, antibiotics, egg protein, formaldehyde, human aborted fetal apparatus (dead human tissue), monosodium glutamate (MSG), and thimerosol (mercury)."

[link to www.naturalnews.com]

uhoh
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Why MSG? Are the shots supposed to taste good??
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According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, "The following substances are found in flu vaccines: aluminum, antibiotics, egg protein, formaldehyde, human aborted fetal apparatus (dead human tissue), monosodium glutamate (MSG), and thimerosol (mercury)."

[link to www.naturalnews.com]


Can you quote the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention saying that?
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Flu vaccines are highly ineffective and toxic

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, "The following substances are found in flu vaccines: aluminum, antibiotics, egg protein, formaldehyde, human aborted fetal apparatus (dead human tissue), monosodium glutamate (MSG), and thimerosol (mercury)."

[link to www.naturalnews.com]

uhoh
 Quoting: Terrebonne



Why MSG? Are the shots supposed to taste good??
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Preservatives
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Lots of old people are just dumbasses just like young people. I told my dad not to let the VA give him any shots, told him about the mercury and everything. What does he do? He lets them shoot him up. I told him Dad, you're a dumbass.
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Lots of old people are just dumbasses just like young people. I told my dad not to let the VA give him any shots, told him about the mercury and everything. What does he do? He lets them shoot him up. I told him Dad, you're a dumbass.
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Old people were brought up in a hierarchical system to respect and never question authority, the "God's" in white coats. You can tell when you accompany older people to see a doctor. they say" yes, sir, yes m'am. I will do as you said and take 500 pills a day as prescribed."
Don't hold it against your dad calling him names. He may still get it if you're patient with him and talk with him.

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