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Christian: It’s Time To Vote With Your Feet

 
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I confess right out of the gate that this column is not going to be enjoyable for me to write. It may not be enjoyable for some to read. But the time has come that it has to be said. If Christians truly have any intentions of helping to preserve liberty for their children and grandchildren, they must put rhetoric, tradition, friendship, and personal feelings aside and take action. Christian: it is time to vote with your feet.

And while many people who never darken the doors of a church love to cast stones at preachers and churches, I have been in the Gospel ministry all of my adult life. I have pastored for over 37 years. I know the inner workings of church work; I personally know hundreds of preachers; I understand how preachers think; I have attended hundreds of church meetings and fellowships, and hundreds of pastors’ conferences and seminars. I know what it’s like to balance a church budget, counsel families in need, stand with a congregation in good times and bad. There isn’t an area of church work with which I am not very familiar. And I can also say that for over 37 years, I have never desired or attempted to harm another man’s ministry. And that is not the intention of this column.

However, the time has come in America to tell it like it is. These are not ordinary times. Our country is on the precipice of tyranny and oppression like we have not seen since the days of Colonial America before our War for Independence. It is no hyperbole to say that what we do–or don’t do–now will determine the state of freedom in America for the next 50 years or more. To make no decision is to decide for tyranny. We can no longer pretend that what we do doesn’t matter.

One of the most glaring differences between Colonial and modern America is the attitude of our pastors.

In 1770-1776 (and actually for many years previous to this period), Colonial pastors (of all denominations) lit the fire of freedom in the hearts of their congregants like no generation has ever seen–before or since. The British Crown was so frustrated with these patriot-pastors that they coined a moniker for them. They were called, “The Black (or Black-Robed) Regiment.” In truth, Colonial pastors were more influential in the “holy cause of liberty” (Patrick Henry) from their pulpits than any military regiment on the battlefield. And, yes, many pastors in Colonial America also fought on the battlefields in our War for Independence.

Today’s pastors, on the other hand, are mostly noted for saying absolutely NOTHING about the attacks that are currently being waged against our liberties. And when I say NOTHING, I mean absolutely NOTHING. About the only thing they seem to be able to do is pass out some slanted “voter guides” every Presidential election. But most don’t even do that. A few (a very few) will encourage their congregations to protest abortion; some (again, a very small number) will preach a “pro-life” sermon on “Sanctity of Life” Sunday each January. But most deliberately and stubbornly refuse to take a public position on any subject that has the air of being “political.”

Should we really wonder why our country is teetering on the precipice of oppression and slavery?

When Bible stories such as Daniel And The Lion’s Den, The Three Hebrew Children And The Burning Fiery Furnace, or the stories of Gideon, Jephthah, and Samson are told, they are taught simply as allegories or explained away as being for “another time.” The practical application of myriads of Bible examples of resistance to tyranny is NEVER TAUGHT in the vast majority of most churches today. NEVER!

I preached a message last Sunday to the people of Liberty Fellowship entitled, “Shepherd Or Hireling?” The text was John 10. To watch the video of this message, go to:

“Shepherd Or Hireling?”

In this chapter, Jesus said, “But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.” (John 10:12, 13 KJV)

Jesus made it clear that the central difference between a true shepherd and a hireling (hired hand) was that the shepherd was willing to fight and die for the protection of the sheep, while the hired hand was not willing to risk his life for the sheep.

Pastors are depicted as being shepherds. Is it not then the central duty of the pastor to be willing to fight and die for the protection of his people? When he sees the wolves approaching, does he run away and leave the sheep to the slaughter or does he confront the wolves and fight to the death to protect them?

Ladies and gentlemen, the wolves are attacking the flock! Those mangy, mad, maniacal monsters are attacking the lives and liberties of the American people (including the Christian people in our churches) with a vengeance. When they attempt to strip us of our right to defend ourselves with arms, they are attacking the very lives and liberties of our homes and families. Life is a precious gift of Almighty God, and anyone who would make our children and families vulnerable to death and destruction by wicked and evil men is tantamount to a mad wolf that attacks the life of a little lamb.

How dare our shepherds (pastors) stand silent and mute in the face of such evil? How dare they refuse to sound the alarm? How dare they piously proclaim that God “has not called” them to perform this most fundamental duty of a shepherd? Does not their refusal to fight, does not their silence, does not their fear and inaction prove that they are not really shepherds at all, but merely hirelings? I believe so.

And knowing that what I am about to say will be misinterpreted by some, I say it still: preaching the Gospel, by itself, will NOT save America. And these preachers who hide behind the mantra that the only thing God has called them to do is preach the Gospel, and that only preaching the Gospel will save America, are either themselves seriously deluded or are despicable cowards hiding behind the veil of pretended spirituality.

America has had more Gospel preaching during the last 50 years than any nation in history. There are more churches, more Christian schools, more Gospel radio and television programs, more missionary endeavors, more inner-city missions and shelters, more Bible publications, and more Gospel influence in America during the last 50 years than in any country in the history of the world.

And what has happened to America over the last 50 years? Our historic Christian culture has been turned into rank hedonism and licentiousness; legal abortion has taken the lives of over 60 million innocent unborn babies; a blatant police-state is proliferating; more babies are being born out of wedlock than at any time in history; and now we are facing the tyrannical attempt to ban and confiscate America’s premier self-defense tool: the semi-automatic rifle. And all of this happened, and is happening, while hundreds of thousands of pastors and churches across the land “preach the Gospel.”

Again I say, preaching the Gospel, by itself, will not save America. Christians have to be taught how to understand; how to discern the difference between good and evil; the principles of law and justice; jurisdictional authority; and the principles of Christian resistance. As long as pastors refrain from teaching these essential and necessary truths, our nation will continue its slide into tyranny and oppression–all the Gospel preaching going forth notwithstanding.

I ask you: if the only thing God expected us to do was preach the Gospel, why did He give us a voluminous Bible, which is filled with examples, principles, teachings, and truths relating to virtually every important area of life? If one takes only those Scriptures that deal specifically with the Gospel, he or she is going to have a very small Bible, my friends. The stories of the Old Testament, for example, were written for “our learning.” (Romans 15:4) Hebrews 11 challenges us with the examples of Old Testament men and women who were “not afraid of the king’s commandment,” who did not fear “the wrath of the king,” who “subdued kingdoms,” “waxed valiant in fight,” and who “turned to flight the armies of the aliens.”


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I will keep trusting in GOD. And I am holding on to His promises.

I will continue to spread The Gospel (the Good News) of our Lord Jesus Christ. And to be a voice of hope for those in need. Strive to be a blessing and not a burden. Continuely pray that GODS will be done. To love eachother as I know GOD loves me. And to forgive one another as I know GOD has forgiven me.
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I will keep trusting in GOD. And I am holding on to His promises.

I will continue to spread The Gospel (the Good News) of our Lord Jesus Christ. And to be a voice of hope for those in need. Strive to be a blessing and not a burden. Continuely pray that GODS will be done. To love eachother as I know GOD loves me. And to forgive one another as I know GOD has forgiven me.
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But will you bow down to tyrants and tyranny or will you fight the good fight of faith?
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Bootlickers!!!
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Let´s start with a quote from Voltaire:

"It´s dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."

Or:
It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.

Then Samual Adams:

"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!!!
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I've decided that if I ever want to join up with a religious group it will be the Amish [or Mennonites] - who completely separate themselves and are self sufficient. All the way or no way for me , as far as organization is concerned.
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I will keep trusting in GOD. And I am holding on to His promises.

I will continue to spread The Gospel (the Good News) of our Lord Jesus Christ. And to be a voice of hope for those in need. Strive to be a blessing and not a burden. Continuely pray that GODS will be done. To love eachother as I know GOD loves me. And to forgive one another as I know GOD has forgiven me.
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But will you bow down to tyrants and tyranny or will you fight the good fight of faith?
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GOD says no weapon formed against us will prosper. As well as making the peop[le beat their weapons into farming tools.

I don't have much faith in the worldly gov. I walk by faith trusting GOD.

If you are just now realizing how corrupt and deceitful the nations leaders are and the shady things they've been doing for years now, you haven't been paying attention.

I'm pretty sure that GOD has more important issues on His mind and in His heart. Camels....Gnats issue here...?
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Romans Chapter 13 By Chuck Baldwin

August 10, 2007


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It seems that every time someone such as myself attempts to encourage
our Christian brothers and sisters to resist an unconstitutional or
otherwise reprehensible government policy, we hear the retort, "What
about Romans Chapter 13? We Christians must submit to government. Any
government. Read your Bible, and leave me alone." Or words to that
effect.

No doubt, some who use this argument are sincere. They are only
repeating what they have heard their pastor and other religious
leaders say. On the other hand, let's be honest enough to admit that
some who use this argument are just plain lazy, apathetic, and
indifferent. And Romans 13 is their escape from responsibility. I
suspect this is the much larger group, by the way.

Nevertheless, for the benefit of those who are sincere (but obviously
misinformed), let's briefly examine Romans Chapter 13. I quote Romans
Chapter 13, verses 1 through 7, from the Authorized King James text:

"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no
power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever
therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and
they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are
not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be
afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise
of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if
thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in
vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon
him that doeth evil. Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for
wrath, but also for conscience sake. For this cause pay ye tribute
also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this
very thing. Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom
tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to
whom honor."

Do our Christian friends who use these verses to teach that we should
not oppose President Bush or any other political leader really believe
that civil magistrates have unlimited authority to do anything they
want without opposition? I doubt whether they truly believe that.

For example, what if our President decided to resurrect the old
monarchal custom of Jus Primae Noctis (Law of First Night)? That was
the old medieval custom when the king claimed the right to sleep with
a subject's bride on the first night of their marriage. Would our
sincere Christian brethren sheepishly say, "Romans Chapter 13 says we
must submit to the government"? I think not. And would any of us
respect any man who would submit to such a law?

So, there are limits to authority. A father has authority in his home,
but does this give him power to abuse his wife and children? Of course
not. An employer has authority on the job, but does this give him
power to control the private lives of his employees? No. A pastor has
overseer authority in the church, but does this give him power to tell
employers in his church how to run their businesses? Of course not.
All human authority is limited in nature. No man has unlimited
authority over the lives of other men. (Lordship and Sovereignty is
the exclusive domain of Jesus Christ.)

By the same token, a civil magistrate has authority in civil matters,
but his authority is limited and defined. Observe that Romans Chapter
13 clearly limits the authority of civil government by strictly
defining its purpose: "For rulers are not a terror to good works, but
to the evil . . . For he is the minister of God to thee for good . . .
for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him
that doeth evil."

Notice that civil government must not be a "terror to good works." It
has no power or authority to terrorize good works or good people. God
never gave it that authority. And any government that oversteps that
divine boundary has no divine authority or protection.

Civil government is a "minister of God to thee for good." It is a not
a minister of God for evil. Civil magistrates have a divine duty to
"execute wrath upon him that doeth evil." They have no authority to
execute wrath upon him that doeth good. None. Zilch. Zero. And anyone
who says they do is lying. So, even in the midst of telling Christians
to submit to civil authority, Romans Chapter 13 limits the power and
reach of civil authority.

Did Moses violate God's principle of submission to authority when he
killed the Egyptian taskmaster in defense of his fellow Hebrew? Did
Elijah violate God's principle of submission to authority when he
openly challenged Ahab and Jezebel? Did David violate God's principle
of submission to authority when he refused to surrender to Saul's
troops? Did Daniel violate God's principle of submission to authority
when he disobeyed the king's law to not pray audibly to God? Did the
three Hebrew children violate God's principle of submission to
authority when they refused to bow to the image of the state? Did John
the Baptist violate God's principle of submission to authority when he
publicly scolded King Herod for his infidelity? Did Simon Peter and
the other Apostles violate God's principle of submission to authority
when they refused to stop preaching on the streets of Jerusalem? Did
Paul violate God's principle of submission to authority when he
refused to obey those authorities who demanded that he abandon his
missionary work? In fact, Paul spent almost as much time in jail as he
did out of jail.

Remember that every apostle of Christ (except John) was killed by
hostile civil authorities opposed to their endeavors. Christians
throughout church history were imprisoned, tortured, or killed by
civil authorities of all stripes for refusing to submit to their
various laws and prohibitions. Did all of these Christian martyrs
violate God's principle of submission to authority?

So, even the great prophets, apostles, and writers of the Bible
(including the writer of Romans Chapter 13) understood that human
authority--even civil authority--is limited.

Plus, Paul makes it clear that our submission to civil authority must
be predicated on more than fear of governmental retaliation. Notice,
he said, "Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but
also for conscience sake." Meaning, our obedience to civil authority
is more than just "because they said so." It is also a matter of
conscience. This means we must think and reason for ourselves
regarding the justness and rightness of our government's laws.
Obedience is not automatic or robotic. It is a result of both rational
deliberation and moral approbation.

Therefore, there are times when civil authority may need to be
resisted. Either governmental abuse of power or the violation of
conscience (or both) could precipitate civil disobedience. Of course,
how and when we decide to resist civil authority is an entirely
separate issue. And I will reserve that discussion for another time.

Beyond that, we in the United States of America do not live under a
monarchy. We have no king. There is no single governing official in
this country. America's "supreme Law" does not rest with any man or
any group of men. America's "supreme Law" does not rest with the
President, the Congress, or even the Supreme Court. In America, the
U.S. Constitution is the "supreme Law of the Land." Under our laws,
every governing official publicly promises to submit to the
Constitution of the United States. Do readers understand the
significance of this distinction? I hope so.

This means that in America the "higher powers" are not the men who
occupy elected office, they are the tenets and principles set forth in
the U.S. Constitution. Under our laws and form of government, it is
the duty of every citizen, including our elected officials, to obey
the U.S. Constitution. Therefore, this is how Romans Chapter 13 reads
to Americans:

"Let every soul be subject unto the [U.S. Constitution.] For there is
no [Constitution] but of God: the [Constitution] that be [is] ordained
of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the [Constitution], resisteth
the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves
damnation. For [the Constitution is] not a terror to good works, but
to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the [Constitution]? do
that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For [the
Constitution] is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do
that which is evil, be afraid; for [the Constitution] beareth not the
sword in vain: for [the Constitution] is the minister of God, a
revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. Wherefore ye must
needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
For this cause pay ye tribute also: for [the Constitution is] God's
minister, attending continually upon this very thing. Render therefore
to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom
custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor."

Dear Christian friend, the above is exactly the proper understanding
of our responsibility to civil authority in these United States, as
per the teaching of Romans Chapter 13.

Furthermore, Christians, above all people, should desire that their
elected representatives submit to the Constitution, because it is
constitutional government that has done more to protect Christian
liberty than any governing document ever devised by man. As I have
noted before in this column (See:
[link to www.chuckbaldwinlive.com] ),
Biblical principles form the foundation of all three of America's
founding documents: The Declaration of Independence, The U.S.
Constitution, and The Bill of Rights.

As a result, Christians in America (for the most part) have not had to
face the painful decision to "obey God rather than men" and defy their
civil authorities.

The problem in America today is that we have allowed our political
leaders to violate their oaths of office and to ignore, and blatantly
disobey, the "supreme Law of the Land," the U.S. Constitution.
Therefore, if we truly believe Romans Chapter 13, we will insist and
demand that our civil magistrates submit to the U.S. Constitution.

Now, how many of us Christians are going to truly obey Romans Chapter
13?

(c) Chuck Baldwin

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I will keep trusting in GOD. And I am holding on to His promises.

I will continue to spread The Gospel (the Good News) of our Lord Jesus Christ. And to be a voice of hope for those in need. Strive to be a blessing and not a burden. Continuely pray that GODS will be done. To love eachother as I know GOD loves me. And to forgive one another as I know GOD has forgiven me.
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But will you bow down to tyrants and tyranny or will you fight the good fight of faith?
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GOD says no weapon formed against us will prosper. As well as making the peop[le beat their weapons into farming tools.

I don't have much faith in the worldly gov. I walk by faith trusting GOD.

If you are just now realizing how corrupt and deceitful the nations leaders are and the shady things they've been doing for years now, you haven't been paying attention.

I'm pretty sure that GOD has more important issues on His mind and in His heart. Camels....Gnats issue here...?
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You're a coward pretending to be spiritual, or a traitor/enemy within.
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I will keep trusting in GOD. And I am holding on to His promises.

I will continue to spread The Gospel (the Good News) of our Lord Jesus Christ. And to be a voice of hope for those in need. Strive to be a blessing and not a burden. Continuely pray that GODS will be done. To love eachother as I know GOD loves me. And to forgive one another as I know GOD has forgiven me.
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But will you bow down to tyrants and tyranny or will you fight the good fight of faith?
 Quoting: Eyes Wide Open 34426096


GOD says no weapon formed against us will prosper. As well as making the peop[le beat their weapons into farming tools.

I don't have much faith in the worldly gov. I walk by faith trusting GOD.

If you are just now realizing how corrupt and deceitful the nations leaders are and the shady things they've been doing for years now, you haven't been paying attention.

I'm pretty sure that GOD has more important issues on His mind and in His heart. Camels....Gnats issue here...?
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You're a coward pretending to be spiritual, or a traitor/enemy within.
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I am not threatened by you anymore. I know my blessings come from above. It wasn't you who saved me. There is no Savior without GOD. I have been threatened by more people who claim to be Christian or doing GODS work than anyone else. Ever.

The enemy comes as an angel of light.

Say what you want, but you have no power over me. My Father loves me. Jesus Christ is my Savior.
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But will you bow down to tyrants and tyranny or will you fight the good fight of faith?
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GOD says no weapon formed against us will prosper. As well as making the peop[le beat their weapons into farming tools.

I don't have much faith in the worldly gov. I walk by faith trusting GOD.

If you are just now realizing how corrupt and deceitful the nations leaders are and the shady things they've been doing for years now, you haven't been paying attention.

I'm pretty sure that GOD has more important issues on His mind and in His heart. Camels....Gnats issue here...?
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You're a coward pretending to be spiritual, or a traitor/enemy within.
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I am not threatened by you anymore. I know my blessings come from above. It wasn't you who saved me. There is no Savior without GOD. I have been threatened by more people who claim to be Christian or doing GODS work than anyone else. Ever.

The enemy comes as an angel of light.

Say what you want, but you have no power over me. My Father loves me. Jesus Christ is my Savior.
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Blah blah blah, You're a sniveling coward and The Lord God Almighty knows it.
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The Bible says GOD rules the nations of men
and places in power whomsoever He Wills.

God requires our obedience to His Laws.

Individuals/nations who disobey God are punished.

When ancient Israel disobeyed God, God sent
the Assyrian empire to destroy Israel.

When ancient Judah disobeyed God, God sent
Babylon to conquer Jerusalem and and take
captive God's People for 70 years. After
70 years, God sent His anointed King from
the East [Cyrus] to conquer Babylon and
free God's People.

A nation under God's punishment will not
be able to free itself until God Wills it
and God will not Will it until God's People
repent of their disobedient lawlessness.



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Thank you Pastor may God Bless you for standing, we need more Pastors to do the same. We stand in agreement with you and pray to God to wake the churches out of there sleep.
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The Bible says GOD rules the nations of men
and places in power whomsoever He Wills.

God requires our obedience to His Laws.

Individuals/nations who disobey God are punished.

When ancient Israel disobeyed God, God sent
the Assyrian empire to destroy Israel.

When ancient Judah disobeyed God, God sent
Babylon to conquer Jerusalem and and take
captive God's People for 70 years. After
70 years, God sent His anointed King from
the East [Cyrus] to conquer Babylon and
free God's People.

A nation under God's punishment will not
be able to free itself until God Wills it
and God will not Will it until God's People
repent of their disobedient lawlessness.



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My bible says that Godly men oppose tyranny and evil in all its' forms.
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" Unless the LORD builds the house, its builders labor in vain.
Unless the LORD watches over the city, the watchmen stand guard in vain. "


from Psalms 127




Jeremiah told God's People that Babylon was going to
conquer their kingdom and they would be in Babylonian
captivity for 70 years.

Furthermore, Jeremiah told them that while in Babylonian captivity to build houses and have families and pray for
Babylon.

Many Israelites did not like what Jeremiah told them
and they tried to kill Jeremiah [kill God's messenger.]

Others sought to escape their punishment by fleeing to
Egypt... so God arranged for Babylon to conquer Egypt.



" This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says
to all those I carried into exile from Jerusalem to Babylon:

“Build houses and settle down; plant gardens and eat what they produce.

Marry and have sons and daughters; find wives for your sons and give your
daughters in marriage, so that they too may have sons and daughters.

Increase in number there; do not decrease.

Also, seek the peace and prosperity of the city to which
I have carried you
into exile. Pray to the Lord for it,because if it prospers, you too will prosper.
"


from Jeremiah 29



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" Unless the LORD builds the house, its builders labor in vain.
Unless the LORD watches over the city, the watchmen stand guard in vain. "


from Psalms 127




Jeremiah told God's People that Babylon was going to
conquer their kingdom and they would be in Babylonian
captivity for 70 years.

Furthermore, Jeremiah told them that while in Babylonian captivity to build houses and have families and pray for
Babylon.

Many Israelites did not like what Jeremiah told them
and they tried to kill Jeremiah [kill God's messenger.]

Others sought to escape their punishment by fleeing to
Egypt... so God arranged for Babylon to conquer Egypt.



" This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says
to all those I carried into exile from Jerusalem to Babylon:

“Build houses and settle down; plant gardens and eat what they produce.

Marry and have sons and daughters; find wives for your sons and give your
daughters in marriage, so that they too may have sons and daughters.

Increase in number there; do not decrease.

Also, seek the peace and prosperity of the city to which
I have carried you
into exile. Pray to the Lord for it,because if it prospers, you too will prosper.
"


from Jeremiah 29



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Well, just go lick boots and let your children and grandchildren fight the fight for Liberty that you so cowardly refused to do.


Romans Chapter 13 By Chuck Baldwin

August 10, 2007


This column is archived at
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It seems that every time someone such as myself attempts to encourage
our Christian brothers and sisters to resist an unconstitutional or
otherwise reprehensible government policy, we hear the retort, "What
about Romans Chapter 13? We Christians must submit to government. Any
government. Read your Bible, and leave me alone." Or words to that
effect.

No doubt, some who use this argument are sincere. They are only
repeating what they have heard their pastor and other religious
leaders say. On the other hand, let's be honest enough to admit that
some who use this argument are just plain lazy, apathetic, and
indifferent. And Romans 13 is their escape from responsibility. I
suspect this is the much larger group, by the way.

Nevertheless, for the benefit of those who are sincere (but obviously
misinformed), let's briefly examine Romans Chapter 13. I quote Romans
Chapter 13, verses 1 through 7, from the Authorized King James text:

"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no
power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever
therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and
they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are
not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be
afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise
of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if
thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in
vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon
him that doeth evil. Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for
wrath, but also for conscience sake. For this cause pay ye tribute
also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this
very thing. Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom
tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to
whom honor."

Do our Christian friends who use these verses to teach that we should
not oppose President Bush or any other political leader really believe
that civil magistrates have unlimited authority to do anything they
want without opposition? I doubt whether they truly believe that.

For example, what if our President decided to resurrect the old
monarchal custom of Jus Primae Noctis (Law of First Night)? That was
the old medieval custom when the king claimed the right to sleep with
a subject's bride on the first night of their marriage. Would our
sincere Christian brethren sheepishly say, "Romans Chapter 13 says we
must submit to the government"? I think not. And would any of us
respect any man who would submit to such a law?

So, there are limits to authority. A father has authority in his home,
but does this give him power to abuse his wife and children? Of course
not. An employer has authority on the job, but does this give him
power to control the private lives of his employees? No. A pastor has
overseer authority in the church, but does this give him power to tell
employers in his church how to run their businesses? Of course not.
All human authority is limited in nature. No man has unlimited
authority over the lives of other men. (Lordship and Sovereignty is
the exclusive domain of Jesus Christ.)

By the same token, a civil magistrate has authority in civil matters,
but his authority is limited and defined. Observe that Romans Chapter
13 clearly limits the authority of civil government by strictly
defining its purpose: "For rulers are not a terror to good works, but
to the evil . . . For he is the minister of God to thee for good . . .
for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him
that doeth evil."

Notice that civil government must not be a "terror to good works." It
has no power or authority to terrorize good works or good people. God
never gave it that authority. And any government that oversteps that
divine boundary has no divine authority or protection.

Civil government is a "minister of God to thee for good." It is a not
a minister of God for evil. Civil magistrates have a divine duty to
"execute wrath upon him that doeth evil." They have no authority to
execute wrath upon him that doeth good. None. Zilch. Zero. And anyone
who says they do is lying. So, even in the midst of telling Christians
to submit to civil authority, Romans Chapter 13 limits the power and
reach of civil authority.

Did Moses violate God's principle of submission to authority when he
killed the Egyptian taskmaster in defense of his fellow Hebrew? Did
Elijah violate God's principle of submission to authority when he
openly challenged Ahab and Jezebel? Did David violate God's principle
of submission to authority when he refused to surrender to Saul's
troops? Did Daniel violate God's principle of submission to authority
when he disobeyed the king's law to not pray audibly to God? Did the
three Hebrew children violate God's principle of submission to
authority when they refused to bow to the image of the state? Did John
the Baptist violate God's principle of submission to authority when he
publicly scolded King Herod for his infidelity? Did Simon Peter and
the other Apostles violate God's principle of submission to authority
when they refused to stop preaching on the streets of Jerusalem? Did
Paul violate God's principle of submission to authority when he
refused to obey those authorities who demanded that he abandon his
missionary work? In fact, Paul spent almost as much time in jail as he
did out of jail.

Remember that every apostle of Christ (except John) was killed by
hostile civil authorities opposed to their endeavors. Christians
throughout church history were imprisoned, tortured, or killed by
civil authorities of all stripes for refusing to submit to their
various laws and prohibitions. Did all of these Christian martyrs
violate God's principle of submission to authority?

So, even the great prophets, apostles, and writers of the Bible
(including the writer of Romans Chapter 13) understood that human
authority--even civil authority--is limited.

Plus, Paul makes it clear that our submission to civil authority must
be predicated on more than fear of governmental retaliation. Notice,
he said, "Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but
also for conscience sake." Meaning, our obedience to civil authority
is more than just "because they said so." It is also a matter of
conscience. This means we must think and reason for ourselves
regarding the justness and rightness of our government's laws.
Obedience is not automatic or robotic. It is a result of both rational
deliberation and moral approbation.

Therefore, there are times when civil authority may need to be
resisted. Either governmental abuse of power or the violation of
conscience (or both) could precipitate civil disobedience. Of course,
how and when we decide to resist civil authority is an entirely
separate issue. And I will reserve that discussion for another time.

Beyond that, we in the United States of America do not live under a
monarchy. We have no king. There is no single governing official in
this country. America's "supreme Law" does not rest with any man or
any group of men. America's "supreme Law" does not rest with the
President, the Congress, or even the Supreme Court. In America, the
U.S. Constitution is the "supreme Law of the Land." Under our laws,
every governing official publicly promises to submit to the
Constitution of the United States. Do readers understand the
significance of this distinction? I hope so.

This means that in America the "higher powers" are not the men who
occupy elected office, they are the tenets and principles set forth in
the U.S. Constitution. Under our laws and form of government, it is
the duty of every citizen, including our elected officials, to obey
the U.S. Constitution. Therefore, this is how Romans Chapter 13 reads
to Americans:

"Let every soul be subject unto the [U.S. Constitution.] For there is
no [Constitution] but of God: the [Constitution] that be [is] ordained
of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the [Constitution], resisteth
the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves
damnation. For [the Constitution is] not a terror to good works, but
to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the [Constitution]? do
that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For [the
Constitution] is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do
that which is evil, be afraid; for [the Constitution] beareth not the
sword in vain: for [the Constitution] is the minister of God, a
revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. Wherefore ye must
needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
For this cause pay ye tribute also: for [the Constitution is] God's
minister, attending continually upon this very thing. Render therefore
to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom
custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor."

Dear Christian friend, the above is exactly the proper understanding
of our responsibility to civil authority in these United States, as
per the teaching of Romans Chapter 13.

Furthermore, Christians, above all people, should desire that their
elected representatives submit to the Constitution, because it is
constitutional government that has done more to protect Christian
liberty than any governing document ever devised by man. As I have
noted before in this column (See:
[link to www.chuckbaldwinlive.com] ),
Biblical principles form the foundation of all three of America's
founding documents: The Declaration of Independence, The U.S.
Constitution, and The Bill of Rights.

As a result, Christians in America (for the most part) have not had to
face the painful decision to "obey God rather than men" and defy their
civil authorities.

The problem in America today is that we have allowed our political
leaders to violate their oaths of office and to ignore, and blatantly
disobey, the "supreme Law of the Land," the U.S. Constitution.
Therefore, if we truly believe Romans Chapter 13, we will insist and
demand that our civil magistrates submit to the U.S. Constitution.

Now, how many of us Christians are going to truly obey Romans Chapter
13?

(c) Chuck Baldwin

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You can say whatever you want about me Pastor.

I have been there, done that. Lets not forget that you make mistakes too. After all I have been through, I can only assume that being a Pastor isn't always easy.

And faith isn't always easy. So if you feel that GOD is leading you in this direction, then who can be against you?

You and I both know that not everyone who is setting at the end of a church pew on Sunday are what they claim to be.

And if you are a Pastor, I am pretty sure you know exactly what I'm talking about.

So when I here a Pastor belittling the Gospel and Good News of Jesus Christ. And say that it will not fix our nation, I get suspicous. Especially one who has been a friend and servant of Lord for over 37 years.
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You can say whatever you want about me Pastor.

I have been there, done that. Lets not forget that you make mistakes too. After all I have been through, I can only assume that being a Pastor isn't always easy.

And faith isn't always easy. So if you feel that GOD is leading you in this direction, then who can be against you?

You and I both know that not everyone who is setting at the end of a church pew on Sunday are what they claim to be.

And if you are a Pastor, I am pretty sure you know exactly what I'm talking about.

So when I here a Pastor belittling the Gospel and Good News of Jesus Christ. And say that it will not fix our nation, I get suspicous. Especially one who has been a friend and servant of Lord for over 37 years.
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I'm not Pastor Baldwin, but I understand what he's saying while you attempt to misinterpret his message. You are of the clothe that believes praying is all one is required to do. You more than likely don't put much effort into that either because you certainly haven't divided the Word of Truth correctly.
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GOD is in total control [not men.]

Of all people, Bible-believing Christians should know this
[because the Bible teaches the total sovereignty of God.]

America is a nation of rebellious lawlessness [ie, full of sin.]

God's punishment suits the sin.

When God's People are rebellious/lawless, God places tyrants over them.

God's People eventually begin to realize that God's yoke
[following God's Law] is light compared to the yokes of men.



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GOD is in total control [not men.]

Of all people, Bible-believing Christians should know this
[because the Bible teaches the total sovereignty of God.]

America is a nation of rebellious lawlessness [ie, full of sin.]

God's punishment suits the sin.

When God's People are rebellious/lawless, God places tyrants over them.

God's People eventually begin to realize that God's yoke
[following God's Law] is light compared to the yokes of men.



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You aren't working for God, you're a coward.
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If christians would stop their bickering and selfishness and arguing and greed the world MIGHT have turned out differntly.

But the Lord now says THIS to the churches...the judgment at the house of the LORD shortly commences.

ONLY those this actually applies to will be angry at it..because TRUTH only hurts the ones its referring to.
Those who KNOW the truth will rejoice at this..for the time of the sorting of the seeh and the goats HAS COME.

MATTHEW 23
13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

Yeah..you lot LOVE to preach a whole lot of HYPOCRITICAL, CONDEMING, SOUL TEARING, MIND NUMBING CRAP which turns people AWAY from the TRUE way...with smooth deceptive words and well worded sermons designed to feed your WALLETS..and make MILLIONS from your LIES of TWISTED SCRIPTURE(The left behind movies and books ect)....but tell me this you evil stains on the name of Jesus...

WHY wont You do what he SAYS..YOU wont enter in YOURSELVES..and by your UTTERLY ABOMINABLE BEHAVIOUR AND EXAMPLE...no one ELSE wants to either because they LOOK at you pathetic easy living cowardly liars and think..RIGHTLY SO..that CHRISTIANS are NOTHING BUT A PACK OF ARGUING, SELF CENTERED, GREEDY, ADULTEROUS, LYING HYPOCRITES


14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

Yeah..ya just LOVE the OH SO HOLY prayers..babbling away in tongues and blaspheming the holy spirit with your UTTER ABOMINATIONS(Getting PISSED on the holy spirit)..THIS according to YOUR BIBLE is what you do..USING something HOLY to make MONEY..is BLASHEMY..and using the holy spirit to promote your MONEY MAKING LIES is BLASPHEMY against the HOLY SPIRIT...ACCORDING to your OWN BIBLE...you DO feed on widows houses..you rake in offerings year after year..from old widows who are too weak to resist the SNARES you set..SHAME on you you pathetic LIFE destroying VIPERS!!

But wait,,,there is MORE.....

15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Yeah..ya do this too..seeking ever more victims...who start out as ordinary people...you prey on their fear..their terror..with stories of DOOM and HELLFIRE..you convert them..and then turn THEM TOO..into the SAME brand of UTTER HYPOCRITES AS YOU!!!

23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.


Yeah,,ya LOVE to rake ya tithes in dont ya??..you ONLY pay it to get BLESSED..its all based on GREED and SELFISHNESS.IF you really GAVE a toss about anyone but yourselves..you would GIVE that money to the POOR and the HUNGRY..BUT NO..ya give it to these SWINDLERS to put new STAGES and SCREENS in their churches..to buy in the latest christian ROCK BAND..so you can ACT just like the WORLD you always CONDEMN....


BUT the list of your SHAME goes ON..(I could write a BOOK on your long trail of HIPOCRISY..)

25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

Yeah..ya LOVE to turn up to church..all spiffy looking..all smiles...but within its all pure HELL..as you battle with the FACADE..hoping the REAL human you are deep inside does not SHOW..as you battle with LUST and ANGER..and HATE..and all the while jealousy and envy grows..and greed..and slander....while church after church falls apart as minister after minister is caught YET again with their cock frimly planted in the vagina of a woman who is NOT THEIRS...HINN..SWAGGART..all of em..BENTLY..what a total FARCE you vipers are...and you know what????ONE common DENOMINATOR among all of these CHARLATANS???.....MONEY MONEY, GREED AND MORE MONEY..and ADULTERY

BUT the list goes ON.....

27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

Ya look all clean..but inside you are DIRTY LUSTFUL COWARDLY SELFISH VIPERS.
And THIS according to YOUR BIBLE..is WHAT Jesus is gonna DO to LIARS LIKE YOU....

51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the HYPOCRITES: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.



8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the LAKE which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Let me break this down a bit for ya so you heartless vipers can FINALLY understand it eh??


8 But the fearful,

(YEP..thats you NEW AGE CHRISTIAN RAPTURE ADDICTS..always AFRAID and wanting to get OUTTA here while everyone else BURNS

and unbelieving,

(Yep..thats you lot TOO..cause if you actually BELIEVED the bible like you SAY you do..ya would NOT be such a bunch of loveless lying hypocritical LIARS)

and the abominable,

(Yes..That’s you lot too..your behaviour towards your brothers and the rest of the world is just ABOMINABLE!...an ABOMINATION!!

and murderers,

(HOW many widows have died in their homes..MURDERED by their lack of funds for more medicine because YOU conned them out of their money??..or told sick people to STOP taking their medicine, because if they did NOT they lacked FATH and God would not heal them..PURE rubbish and LIES..you are WORSE than JWS refusing blood to the dying)

and whoremongers,

(Yep..how many of you secretly sleep around..or lust after women or men in your heart?..whoreing after flesh or money..or gain..THIS is what it means..a deep endless lusting to GRATIFY yourselves)

and sorcerers,

(AHH yes..the MAIN one that the pastors of these NEW AGE CON artists love..sorcery..beguiling with words..using the "Anointing" like a drug..when its ALL just a manufactured atmosphere brought about to BEWITCH and SWINDLE..and THIS is what it means)

and idolaters,

(Idolatry..the modern churches FAVOURITE passtime..they worship WORSHIP..and FEELINGS..and PEOPLE..and MONEY..and BOOKS..and MOVIES..seems they idolise ANYTHING..but GOD..what a bunch of UTTER AND TOTAL LIARS)

and all liars,shall have their part in the LAKE which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

SELF explainatory is it NOT?)

8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor EFFEMINATE, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Need I say more???
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OP... I never mentioned Romans 13 -
so your copy and paste did not respond
to my posts.


Those who worship the God of Israel,
must worship Him in spirit and in truth.

God is sovereign over all His creation
and commands us to obey His Laws.

Those individuals/nations who rebel
against God will be punished.

If you don't like the punishment...
don't do the sin.



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OP... I never mentioned Romans 13 -
so your copy and paste did not respond
to my posts.


Those who worship the God of Israel,
must worship Him in spirit and in truth.

God is sovereign over all His creation
and commands us to obey His Laws.

Those individuals/nations who rebel
against God will be punished.

If you don't like the punishment...
don't do the sin.



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You're just here to argue, nothing else.

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