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Parents across Massachusetts are upset over new rules that would not only allow transgender students to use their restrooms of their choice – but would also punish students who refuse to affirm or support their transgender classmates.

Last week the Massachusetts Department of Education issued directives for handling transgender students – including allowing them to use the bathrooms of their choice or to play on sports teams that correspond to the gender with which they identify.
The 11-page directive also urged schools to eliminate gender-based clothing and gender-based activities – like having boys and girls line up separately to leave the classroom.
Schools will now be required to accept a student’s gender identity on face value.

[link to radio.foxnews.com]
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OP, your a peddler of hate and it is very unlike Christ.
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What is hate about this??? Still trying to get that square peg in a round hole?? it still does not work....
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He's obviously a homosexual somehow offended you posted this thread.
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Your obviously are exactly as you identified yourself. I take offense to hate. Look who's calling the kettle PINK!
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I doubt you even know the definition of hate....
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OP, your a peddler of hate and it is very unlike Christ.
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What is hate about this??? Still trying to get that square peg in a round hole?? it still does not work....
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He's obviously a homosexual somehow offended you posted this thread.
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Your obviously are exactly as you identified yourself. I take offense to hate. Look who's calling the kettle PINK!
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Stop using the word hate.

I don't hate those kids.
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It is my god given rightas an AMERICAN to decide what I believe, what I choose to accept. NO man will ever tell me otherwise. They call kiss my s226

I dont agree with the wierdo's nor do I have to accept shit.
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As someone who is "gender fluid" (meaning my gender perception/hormones/etc changes from time to time), I'm glad to see that schools are taking action for TG's...that being said, I'd really rather you stay in the bathroom dictated by your current physical self...male reproductive organs? Boys' room. Female delicates? The ladies' room. It's just good hygiene to do that.

Of course, that does present a problem for the intersex genders, as they have both sets of parts...I'd say let them choose which restroom to go to, as there's really no other option (some are more female than male, others are more male than female, so you can't group them all as closer to one basic gender or the other).

All that being said, this is a good move in my opinion - there are several more genders out there than just male and female, and yet only the two basic genders are the ones who are publicly treated as if they exist.

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wtf

I guess we need a third option for bathrooms.
Men. Women. Pervs.
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What is hate about this??? Still trying to get that square peg in a round hole?? it still does not work....
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He's obviously a homosexual somehow offended you posted this thread.
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Your obviously are exactly as you identified yourself. I take offense to hate. Look who's calling the kettle PINK!
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I doubt you even know the definition of hate....
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It is my god given rightas an AMERICAN to decide what I believe, what I choose to accept. NO man will ever tell me otherwise. They call kiss my s226

I dont agree with the wierdo's nor do I have to accept shit.
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Fools don't talk about other peoples CHILDREN. Some of them will grow out of their issues and others will conform to what they feel is best.

As for the bathroom and locker room issue...there are stalls.

If I were a parent of one of these children, I would smack you silly if you made a comment near my child.
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I have to agree with you. These people, I am sure never asked to be this way. I am also a believer that you are born feeling the way you are about your sexuality and gender. To have to play a fake roll, just so you don't get your face smashed in by your peers, I couldn't believe the pressure.

Why not love the person for who they are. They could be an amazing, loving, good moral person. Just because they decided to finally come out of the box, shouldn't be something to condone. As long as no one is being hurt, who the fuck cares if a guy wants to wear eye makeup and heels? Or a girl wants to grow a beard?

Love is universal. DO you give a shit about your kids pet frog who is A Gender?
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He's "forcing" what? Just being some where is forcing himself on people? Come on. If you are uncomfortable around opposite sex that are OUTSIDE the stall you are using, then it is you that has a problem. It's just a dumb social taboo that is meaningless. "liberal scumbags" lol, implying that "conservative" is a better one when it's just two sides of the same damn coin.
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That dumb social taboo has worked just fine for many, many years.

Again, you have yet to explain to me why the desire of one person outweighs that of dozens or more, or why it should be changed to suit one single person.
 Quoting: Debauchery


If you think hiding as much as possible about sexuality and being scared to talk about it in front of the opposite sex, or even another person, has "worked just fine", than that's sad. And for the second part of your argument, you could apply that 100% to slavery.. It's discrimination to not recognize people that don't identify as their physical sex, plain and simple.
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Recognizing they're confused doesn't mean we cater to them and their every petty request.

Stop with the sexuality spiel.

I have a vagina, everyone knows it, no one needs to see it aside from my spouse. I undress daily, no one needs to witness it aside from my spouse. Modesty isn't a crime nor is it a dirty word. That is the problem with you people. You confuse being modest and conservative in the way you present yourself to others as being prudish, uptight and sexually repressed. You're wrong.
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Who's asking to see it? You're the one who thinks people shouldn't be forced to use the same bathroom just because the person in the next stall has a penis.. That's not modesty, that's sensitivity to sexuality. Even though there's never any nudity in a bathroom, or even anything sexually related at all, but my god if the person in the next stall has a penis...
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Parents across Massachusetts are upset over new rules that would not only allow transgender students to use their restrooms of their choice – but would also punish students who refuse to affirm or support their transgender classmates.

Last week the Massachusetts Department of Education issued directives for handling transgender students – including allowing them to use the bathrooms of their choice or to play on sports teams that correspond to the gender with which they identify.
The 11-page directive also urged schools to eliminate gender-based clothing and gender-based activities – like having boys and girls line up separately to leave the classroom.
Schools will now be required to accept a student’s gender identity on face value.

[link to radio.foxnews.com]
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more madness
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how sad/scare that parents would allow their child to have such a surgery but if they did and their child is rransgendered then teach the other kids that jamie is now susie and needs to use the girls bathroom.
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OP, your a peddler of hate and it is very unlike Christ.
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What is hate about this??? Still trying to get that square peg in a round hole?? it still does not work....
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There is no hate about something that is an abomination against natural order. There are no transsexuals. They may be gender-confused individuals who have underwent horrible operations to try and change this, but the fact is, a shemale is still a male. It is nothing but sexual perversion. The people who have been attempting to control mankind from behind the scenes are terrible, horrible people, if you could call them that. Multidimensional, time travelling aliens from beyond the grave (read: demons) who have been well documented historically.
One of their main goals is to destroy the family unit. This goal is accomplished through a variety of agendas: GMO, homosexual acceptance, transgender individuals, glorifying of violence and hate in the media, etc. Once the family is gone, humanity will slowly die off. At least they hope. And when there is less of us, humanity will be easier to control. The Georgia Guide Stones have some of their goals, including depopulation.

I feel like I am ranting and carrying on, but there is no hate in self-preservation.
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These same people bitching are the one's whose parents and grandparents bitched about the black man using the whities bathroom, bitched about the black man eating in the whities eatery, bitched about a little black lady sitting in the front of the bus.

Leave the children alone, they are children. If sexual overtones are playing into the child's mind and they are uncomfortable then it's the parents pushing those thoughts into their minds.

They are just little children for Christ sake.

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The problem is when the he/she is in high school comfortable with his HER self and then is attracted to a girl. He identifies as a girl (crossdresser type) but is attracted to women. It could happen. Now he's a trangendered he/she lesbian using a girls bathroom. What different from a normal lesbian using the girls bathroom? A penis. So, why are there separate bathrooms for anyone, shouldn't everyone be using the same bathroom?

See where this is going. No, it's not a red-herring, it's the inevitable situation and resolution.

Just accept it now, we are facing a future of unisex bathrooms just like in Ally McBeal.
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Fools don't talk about other peoples CHILDREN. Some of them will grow out of their issues and others will conform to what they feel is best.

As for the bathroom and locker room issue...there are stalls.

If I were a parent of one of these children, I would smack you silly if you made a comment near my child.
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I have to agree with you. These people, I am sure never asked to be this way. I am also a believer that you are born feeling the way you are about your sexuality and gender. To have to play a fake roll, just so you don't get your face smashed in by your peers, I couldn't believe the pressure.

Why not love the person for who they are. They could be an amazing, loving, good moral person. Just because they decided to finally come out of the box, shouldn't be something to condone. As long as no one is being hurt, who the fuck cares if a guy wants to wear eye makeup and heels? Or a girl wants to grow a beard?

Love is universal. DO you give a shit about your kids pet frog who is A Gender?
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You know I am sure glad I went to school in the Stone Age when Boys were happy to be Boys and use the Boys Bathrooms and Showers and the Girls were happy to use the Girls' Bathroom and showers, and the worst thing the Teachers found in the Stalls was people smoking....

Not sure when all this Gender Confusion started but I do know it wasn't around in the 70's and 80's!

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He's "forcing" what? Just being some where is forcing himself on people? Come on. If you are uncomfortable around opposite sex that are OUTSIDE the stall you are using, then it is you that has a problem. It's just a dumb social taboo that is meaningless. "liberal scumbags" lol, implying that "conservative" is a better one when it's just two sides of the same damn coin.
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That dumb social taboo has worked just fine for many, many years.

Again, you have yet to explain to me why the desire of one person outweighs that of dozens or more, or why it should be changed to suit one single person.
 Quoting: Debauchery


If you think hiding as much as possible about sexuality and being scared to talk about it in front of the opposite sex, or even another person, has "worked just fine", than that's sad. And for the second part of your argument, you could apply that 100% to slavery.. It's discrimination to not recognize people that don't identify as their physical sex, plain and simple.
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wow good for you sugar.we got no money to pay teachers and you wanna waste time on this shit?
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This is just another reason why education shouldn't be run by government. If it was all private then all these pussies could just fuck off to their own schools and live in the 50s.
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Fools don't talk about other peoples CHILDREN. Some of them will grow out of their issues and others will conform to what they feel is best.

As for the bathroom and locker room issue...there are stalls.

If I were a parent of one of these children, I would smack you silly if you made a comment near my child.
 Quoting: PokerFace


I have to agree with you. These people, I am sure never asked to be this way. I am also a believer that you are born feeling the way you are about your sexuality and gender. To have to play a fake roll, just so you don't get your face smashed in by your peers, I couldn't believe the pressure.

Why not love the person for who they are. They could be an amazing, loving, good moral person. Just because they decided to finally come out of the box, shouldn't be something to condone. As long as no one is being hurt, who the fuck cares if a guy wants to wear eye makeup and heels? Or a girl wants to grow a beard?

Love is universal. DO you give a shit about your kids pet frog who is A Gender?
 Quoting: CrazyMama73




You know I am sure glad I went to school in the Stone Age when Boys were happy to be Boys and use the Boys Bathrooms and Showers and the Girls were happy to use the Girls' Bathroom and showers, and the worst thing the Teachers found in the Stalls was people smoking....

Not sure when all this Gender Confusion started but I do know it wasn't around in the 70's and 80's!

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Do you actually think that the people that felt this way in the 70s and 80s would tell anyone? They would be beaten with a belt and outcasted.
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That dumb social taboo has worked just fine for many, many years.

Again, you have yet to explain to me why the desire of one person outweighs that of dozens or more, or why it should be changed to suit one single person.
 Quoting: Debauchery


If you think hiding as much as possible about sexuality and being scared to talk about it in front of the opposite sex, or even another person, has "worked just fine", than that's sad. And for the second part of your argument, you could apply that 100% to slavery.. It's discrimination to not recognize people that don't identify as their physical sex, plain and simple.
 Quoting: Makenake


Recognizing they're confused doesn't mean we cater to them and their every petty request.

Stop with the sexuality spiel.

I have a vagina, everyone knows it, no one needs to see it aside from my spouse. I undress daily, no one needs to witness it aside from my spouse. Modesty isn't a crime nor is it a dirty word. That is the problem with you people. You confuse being modest and conservative in the way you present yourself to others as being prudish, uptight and sexually repressed. You're wrong.
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Who's asking to see it? You're the one who thinks people shouldn't be forced to use the same bathroom just because the person in the next stall has a penis.. That's not modesty, that's sensitivity to sexuality. Even though there's never any nudity in a bathroom, or even anything sexually related at all, but my god if the person in the next stall has a penis...
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You still haven't responded to the hypocrisy of this all.

Why does the TG get coddled when the others are basically being told to fuck off?

You can't answer me because you know it's bullshit.

The confused kid is uncomfortable in the bathroom for people of his gender so you're saying he should be allowed to go in the ladies bathroom.

The kids in the other restroom are uncomfortable with him being in there and you're saying tough shit, their feelings don't matter, only the other kids does yet you're trying to make me out to be the asshole here? The other kids aren't trying to change anything. You also never addressed the fact that with stalls the TG kid can go into his own bathroom and get privacy so why does he need to switch it up and go in the ladies?

How does that work?

Come on, dazzle me with some more of your crap.
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These same people bitching are the one's whose parents and grandparents bitched about the black man using the whities bathroom, bitched about the black man eating in the whities eatery, bitched about a little black lady sitting in the front of the bus.

Leave the children alone, they are children. If sexual overtones are playing into the child's mind and they are uncomfortable then it's the parents pushing those thoughts into their minds.

They are just little children for Christ sake.
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Neither, 1rof1
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Yeah..I am still trying to figure out what is *Neither*

So you don't identify with Male or Female? do you identify with *Robot*???

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Leave gender identity issues to psychiatrists, not you the crazy patient.
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I'm sorry but that doesn't fly.

It is the students and the parents of students that are left to deal with the bullshit from their 'issues'.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you have a penis you've got no damn business disrobing in a locker-room with my daughter. I don't care what you identify with. You've got no right forcing dozens if not hundreds of students out of their comfort zone so you can play female/male. What makes one persons wants more important than the majorities needs?

Get the surgery and then you can parade around in the restroom that corresponds to what is in your pants.
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People and religion has made sexuality a bad thing. It's not. Back in the days of an open one room house, parents were going at in front of their children.

What we have today is too much religious guilt about sexuality. It's insane.

You were a child once, we knew many things about sex well before puberty.
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Do you live at a Nudist Colony?

If not you should....

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No, I grew up in a conservative church. But fortunately I broke free of all the vile hate. Unlike you.
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Fools don't talk about other peoples CHILDREN. Some of them will grow out of their issues and others will conform to what they feel is best.

As for the bathroom and locker room issue...there are stalls.

If I were a parent of one of these children, I would smack you silly if you made a comment near my child.
 Quoting: PokerFace


I have to agree with you. These people, I am sure never asked to be this way. I am also a believer that you are born feeling the way you are about your sexuality and gender. To have to play a fake roll, just so you don't get your face smashed in by your peers, I couldn't believe the pressure.

Why not love the person for who they are. They could be an amazing, loving, good moral person. Just because they decided to finally come out of the box, shouldn't be something to condone. As long as no one is being hurt, who the fuck cares if a guy wants to wear eye makeup and heels? Or a girl wants to grow a beard?

Love is universal. DO you give a shit about your kids pet frog who is A Gender?
 Quoting: CrazyMama73




You know I am sure glad I went to school in the Stone Age when Boys were happy to be Boys and use the Boys Bathrooms and Showers and the Girls were happy to use the Girls' Bathroom and showers, and the worst thing the Teachers found in the Stalls was people smoking....

Not sure when all this Gender Confusion started but I do know it wasn't around in the 70's and 80's!

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Do you actually think that the people that felt this way in the 70s and 80s would tell anyone? They would be beaten with a belt and outcasted.
 Quoting: Makenake


They still will. Only it wont be a belt, it will probably be the fists and feet if not ball bats of about a dozen or more students that are completely pissed off at being forced to share a bathroom with someone that is not of their gender.

You think pushing this on a bunch of teenagers is going to be a good thing? Just watch and see, someone is going to get hurt.
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.
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Fools don't talk about other peoples CHILDREN. Some of them will grow out of their issues and others will conform to what they feel is best.

As for the bathroom and locker room issue...there are stalls.

If I were a parent of one of these children, I would smack you silly if you made a comment near my child.
 Quoting: PokerFace


I have to agree with you. These people, I am sure never asked to be this way. I am also a believer that you are born feeling the way you are about your sexuality and gender. To have to play a fake roll, just so you don't get your face smashed in by your peers, I couldn't believe the pressure.

Why not love the person for who they are. They could be an amazing, loving, good moral person. Just because they decided to finally come out of the box, shouldn't be something to condone. As long as no one is being hurt, who the fuck cares if a guy wants to wear eye makeup and heels? Or a girl wants to grow a beard?

Love is universal. DO you give a shit about your kids pet frog who is A Gender?
 Quoting: CrazyMama73




You know I am sure glad I went to school in the Stone Age when Boys were happy to be Boys and use the Boys Bathrooms and Showers and the Girls were happy to use the Girls' Bathroom and showers, and the worst thing the Teachers found in the Stalls was people smoking....

Not sure when all this Gender Confusion started but I do know it wasn't around in the 70's and 80's!

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Get your head out of the sand. Gender "confusion" has been around as long as there has been man on this planet. It is the fact that people are finally feeling they can come out of the "closet" with out being stoned to death, that is the difference. The fucking world didn't revolve around our sexual orientation or gender from the 50's - present date. This has been going on forever.
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Fools don't talk about other peoples CHILDREN. Some of them will grow out of their issues and others will conform to what they feel is best.

As for the bathroom and locker room issue...there are stalls.

If I were a parent of one of these children, I would smack you silly if you made a comment near my child.
 Quoting: PokerFace


I have to agree with you. These people, I am sure never asked to be this way. I am also a believer that you are born feeling the way you are about your sexuality and gender. To have to play a fake roll, just so you don't get your face smashed in by your peers, I couldn't believe the pressure.

Why not love the person for who they are. They could be an amazing, loving, good moral person. Just because they decided to finally come out of the box, shouldn't be something to condone. As long as no one is being hurt, who the fuck cares if a guy wants to wear eye makeup and heels? Or a girl wants to grow a beard?

Love is universal. DO you give a shit about your kids pet frog who is A Gender?
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You know I am sure glad I went to school in the Stone Age when Boys were happy to be Boys and use the Boys Bathrooms and Showers and the Girls were happy to use the Girls' Bathroom and showers, and the worst thing the Teachers found in the Stalls was people smoking....

Not sure when all this Gender Confusion started but I do know it wasn't around in the 70's and 80's!

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Do you actually think that the people that felt this way in the 70s and 80s would tell anyone? They would be beaten with a belt and outcasted.
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I think they did not try and FORCE anyone else to what they thought if they did feel this way....

We were at School! not the Insane Asylum...

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If you think hiding as much as possible about sexuality and being scared to talk about it in front of the opposite sex, or even another person, has "worked just fine", than that's sad. And for the second part of your argument, you could apply that 100% to slavery.. It's discrimination to not recognize people that don't identify as their physical sex, plain and simple.
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Recognizing they're confused doesn't mean we cater to them and their every petty request.

Stop with the sexuality spiel.

I have a vagina, everyone knows it, no one needs to see it aside from my spouse. I undress daily, no one needs to witness it aside from my spouse. Modesty isn't a crime nor is it a dirty word. That is the problem with you people. You confuse being modest and conservative in the way you present yourself to others as being prudish, uptight and sexually repressed. You're wrong.
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Who's asking to see it? You're the one who thinks people shouldn't be forced to use the same bathroom just because the person in the next stall has a penis.. That's not modesty, that's sensitivity to sexuality. Even though there's never any nudity in a bathroom, or even anything sexually related at all, but my god if the person in the next stall has a penis...
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You still haven't responded to the hypocrisy of this all.

Why does the TG get coddled when the others are basically being told to fuck off?

You can't answer me because you know it's bullshit.

The confused kid is uncomfortable in the bathroom for people of his gender so you're saying he should be allowed to go in the ladies bathroom.

The kids in the other restroom are uncomfortable with him being in there and you're saying tough shit, their feelings don't matter, only the other kids does yet you're trying to make me out to be the asshole here? The other kids aren't trying to change anything. You also never addressed the fact that with stalls the TG kid can go into his own bathroom and get privacy so why does he need to switch it up and go in the ladies?

How does that work?

Come on, dazzle me with some more of your crap.
 Quoting: Debauchery


I already told you, it's fucking discrimination. It doesn't matter if it makes people uncomfortable, if it does then it's their own damn problem. It was the exact same thing with blacks, the little amount wanted to be with the rest of the people were they felt they belonged, but if they did it would make them uncomfortable. Are you really trying to tell me that it's OK to discriminate against anyone, no matter what it is for or even just if its a hand full of people, as long as it keeps people comfortable? Coddling peoples discriminatory emotions has proved in the past to only make the discriminated feel more outcasted, and serve for nothing else.
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I'm calling it right now.

Behold, I see the future and in it is UNISEX bathrooms.
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Fools don't talk about other peoples CHILDREN. Some of them will grow out of their issues and others will conform to what they feel is best.

As for the bathroom and locker room issue...there are stalls.

If I were a parent of one of these children, I would smack you silly if you made a comment near my child.
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I have to agree with you. These people, I am sure never asked to be this way. I am also a believer that you are born feeling the way you are about your sexuality and gender. To have to play a fake roll, just so you don't get your face smashed in by your peers, I couldn't believe the pressure.

Why not love the person for who they are. They could be an amazing, loving, good moral person. Just because they decided to finally come out of the box, shouldn't be something to condone. As long as no one is being hurt, who the fuck cares if a guy wants to wear eye makeup and heels? Or a girl wants to grow a beard?

Love is universal. DO you give a shit about your kids pet frog who is A Gender?
 Quoting: CrazyMama73




You know I am sure glad I went to school in the Stone Age when Boys were happy to be Boys and use the Boys Bathrooms and Showers and the Girls were happy to use the Girls' Bathroom and showers, and the worst thing the Teachers found in the Stalls was people smoking....

Not sure when all this Gender Confusion started but I do know it wasn't around in the 70's and 80's!

 Quoting: christian


Get your head out of the sand. Gender "confusion" has been around as long as there has been man on this planet. It is the fact that people are finally feeling they can come out of the "closet" with out being stoned to death, that is the difference. The fucking world didn't revolve around our sexual orientation or gender from the 50's - present date. This has been going on forever.
 Quoting: CrazyMama73


I think it's a lot safer to come out when you're an adult.

I don't believe that every single TG kid will come out of this unscathed if this spreads to schools throughout the country.

Teenagers have a way of being emotionally unstable when they really dislike or are offended by something. I'm sure you're aware, you read stories in the news of the horrific things kids do to each other all the time.

I may not agree with allowing them to have co-ed bathrooms but I certainly don't want to see any of them hurt or even killed.
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