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Alexander (OP) User ID: 15635858 United States 02/22/2013 01:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not to well, is it? More like global enslavement. The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill Daily Updates Thread: ASS IS IN THE WRINGER - Rolling Updates from 11/16/20 to present (Page 316) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 961432 United States 02/22/2013 01:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This breakoff of wages from productivity growth is partly the result of trade agreements that pit Americans against exploited workers in non-democracies. This weakened the bargaining power of unions, moved factories and industries out of the country, devastated entire regions of our country — and gave the giant multinational corporations, Wall Street and the billionaires the leverage they needed. Quoting: Alexander Ermm, maybe labor unions just made labor too expensive so corporations went after cheaper labor? And, if labor unions were so concerned about everyone's job, not just fattening their own pockets, maybe they would have used their muscle to get congress to impose some kind of tariffs to make imports as expensive as goods made in the US? Maybe unions, and particularly their bosses, are liberal commie sellout shills. . |
full of retard User ID: 30991674 United States 02/22/2013 02:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This breakoff of wages from productivity growth is partly the result of trade agreements that pit Americans against exploited workers in non-democracies. This weakened the bargaining power of unions, moved factories and industries out of the country, devastated entire regions of our country — and gave the giant multinational corporations, Wall Street and the billionaires the leverage they needed. Quoting: Alexander Ermm, maybe labor unions just made labor too expensive so corporations went after cheaper labor? And, if labor unions were so concerned about everyone's job, not just fattening their own pockets, maybe they would have used their muscle to get congress to impose some kind of tariffs to make imports as expensive as goods made in the US? Maybe unions, and particularly their bosses, are liberal commie sellout shills. . Holy fuck that is about the dumbest piece of shit statement i have read all night here . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33825975 United States 02/22/2013 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This breakoff of wages from productivity growth is partly the result of trade agreements that pit Americans against exploited workers in non-democracies. This weakened the bargaining power of unions, moved factories and industries out of the country, devastated entire regions of our country — and gave the giant multinational corporations, Wall Street and the billionaires the leverage they needed. Quoting: Alexander Ermm, maybe labor unions just made labor too expensive so corporations went after cheaper labor? And, if labor unions were so concerned about everyone's job, not just fattening their own pockets, maybe they would have used their muscle to get congress to impose some kind of tariffs to make imports as expensive as goods made in the US? Maybe unions, and particularly their bosses, are liberal commie sellout shills. . Holy fuck that is about the dumbest piece of shit statement i have read all night here . You never go full-retard. Unions are at least a little bit look out for the workers, pay, insurance. I have worked many jobs and union ones were always a bit better than jobs without them. Self employed is the best way to go though. |
Mr. Predictor Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 1032780 United States 02/22/2013 02:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe people haven't acquired the skills that deserve more than minimum wage "If there is a new fascism, it won't come from skinheads and punks; it will come from people who eat granola and think they know how the world should be." - Brian Eno |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34907332 United States 02/22/2013 02:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This breakoff of wages from productivity growth is partly the result of trade agreements that pit Americans against exploited workers in non-democracies. This weakened the bargaining power of unions, moved factories and industries out of the country, devastated entire regions of our country — and gave the giant multinational corporations, Wall Street and the billionaires the leverage they needed. Quoting: Alexander Ermm, maybe labor unions just made labor too expensive so corporations went after cheaper labor? And, if labor unions were so concerned about everyone's job, not just fattening their own pockets, maybe they would have used their muscle to get congress to impose some kind of tariffs to make imports as expensive as goods made in the US? Maybe unions, and particularly their bosses, are liberal commie sellout shills. . Holy fuck that is about the dumbest piece of shit statement i have read all night here . You never go full-retard. Unions are at least a little bit look out for the workers, pay, insurance. I have worked many jobs and union ones were always a bit better than jobs without them. Self employed is the best way to go though. that may mean only one peron employed small business talk to you in 2014 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34932414 United States 02/22/2013 03:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is both tragic and pathetic. Quoting: Alexander “If the minimum wage had risen in step with productivity growth [since 1968], it would be over $16.50 an hour today. That is higher than the hourly wages earned by 40 percent of men and half of women.” his means the gains went…somewhere else. See if you can guess who got them? (Hint: it’s the 1 percent; this is one driver of the terrible income and wealth inequality.) This breakoff of wages from productivity growth is partly the result of trade agreements that pit Americans against exploited workers in non-democracies. This weakened the bargaining power of unions, moved factories and industries out of the country, devastated entire regions of our country — and gave the giant multinational corporations, Wall Street and the billionaires the leverage they needed. [link to thecontributor.com] As long as the people are saddled with these maggots (Central Banksters) we will be kept as subjugated slaves. Unless and until we THROW OFF these parasites, we will continue to be plunged into poverty and eventually sheer desperation. Meanwhile, they will continue to be REWARDED for their evils, living in UNIMAGINABLE weatlh and luxury. The ONLY good news, is that these people HAVE their reward here and now. The WILL have their place in the Lake of Fire. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28049243 United States 02/22/2013 03:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is both tragic and pathetic. Quoting: Alexander “If the minimum wage had risen in step with productivity growth [since 1968], it would be over $16.50 an hour today. That is higher than the hourly wages earned by 40 percent of men and half of women.” his means the gains went…somewhere else. See if you can guess who got them? (Hint: it’s the 1 percent; this is one driver of the terrible income and wealth inequality.) This breakoff of wages from productivity growth is partly the result of trade agreements that pit Americans against exploited workers in non-democracies. This weakened the bargaining power of unions, moved factories and industries out of the country, devastated entire regions of our country — and gave the giant multinational corporations, Wall Street and the billionaires the leverage they needed. [link to thecontributor.com] Great. Let's all go outside with our AR-15's and fucking celebrate. |
TeamReaper User ID: 22030141 United States 02/22/2013 03:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you have to factor in how much of the productiviy growth can be contributed to technology. In every operation, whether planning it or executing it, you can never count on luck; but you have to accept it, and recognize it when it’s there. -Major ******, U-2 Pilot/Instructor/Flight Commander |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1689544 United States 02/22/2013 03:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This breakoff of wages from productivity growth is partly the result of trade agreements that pit Americans against exploited workers in non-democracies. This weakened the bargaining power of unions, moved factories and industries out of the country, devastated entire regions of our country — and gave the giant multinational corporations, Wall Street and the billionaires the leverage they needed. Quoting: Alexander Ermm, maybe labor unions just made labor too expensive so corporations went after cheaper labor? And, if labor unions were so concerned about everyone's job, not just fattening their own pockets, maybe they would have used their muscle to get congress to impose some kind of tariffs to make imports as expensive as goods made in the US? Maybe unions, and particularly their bosses, are liberal commie sellout shills. . Holy fuck that is about the dumbest piece of shit statement i have read all night here . Greed made this happen,on both sides |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34910882 Canada 02/22/2013 04:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This breakoff of wages from productivity growth is partly the result of trade agreements that pit Americans against exploited workers in non-democracies. This weakened the bargaining power of unions, moved factories and industries out of the country, devastated entire regions of our country — and gave the giant multinational corporations, Wall Street and the billionaires the leverage they needed. Quoting: Alexander Ermm, maybe labor unions just made labor too expensive so corporations went after cheaper labor? And, if labor unions were so concerned about everyone's job, not just fattening their own pockets, maybe they would have used their muscle to get congress to impose some kind of tariffs to make imports as expensive as goods made in the US? Maybe unions, and particularly their bosses, are liberal commie sellout shills. . Holy fuck that is about the dumbest piece of shit statement i have read all night here . No it's not dumb. It's right on the fucking money, except for the unions making labor too expensive part. Unions should have been doing alot of things, like organizing in Mexico with everything they had, and going to fucking war with the free traders. They sat on their hands instead. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34910882 Canada 02/22/2013 05:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you have to factor in how much of the productiviy growth can be contributed to technology. Quoting: TeamReaper That's true, and it should have resulted in higher wages not lower. If 100 men work in a factory and 90 of them are replaced by robots, the remaining 10 can make 9X more money and the company still comes out way ahead. And they should be making 9X more. Those 10 workers couldn't be replaced by robotics, that means their labor is valuable. Valuable labor demands valuable wages. |
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MHz User ID: 34243878 Canada 02/22/2013 06:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you have to factor in how much of the productiviy growth can be contributed to technology. Quoting: TeamReaper That's true, and it should have resulted in higher wages not lower. If 100 men work in a factory and 90 of them are replaced by robots, the remaining 10 can make 9X more money and the company still comes out way ahead. And they should be making 9X more. Those 10 workers couldn't be replaced by robotics, that means their labor is valuable. Valuable labor demands valuable wages. The 9x is divided between the robot costs and the shareholders pockets, the man still makes 1x |
MHz User ID: 34243878 Canada 02/22/2013 06:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No it's not dumb. It's right on the fucking money, except for the unions making labor too expensive part. Unions should have been doing alot of things, like organizing in Mexico with everything they had, and going to fucking war with the free traders. They sat on their hands instead. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34910882 What about built in redundancy, after a war there is a busy reconstruction period and then a slowdown. Rather than businesses building a product that lasts 10 years instead of 50 they should just change the item produced every 10 years and have 5 products that they produce on a rotation basis. The idea is to have things to do for the people 'on time off' so it is not a burden. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22517985 United States 02/22/2013 06:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In 1968 minimum wage was $1.60/hr Today, minimum wage is $7.25/hr In 1968, gold was 39.31/oz Today, gold is 1580/oz Therefore, at minimum wage.. In 1968, you'd have to work 25 hours to buy 1 oz of gold. Today, you'd have to work 218 hours to buy 1 oz of gold. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34760435 United States 02/22/2013 06:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the last twenty years, since Clinton became president really, I have noticed how the American people are so brainwashed that they will not stand up for anything. They are too afraid that speaking out will end in them losing the benefits of being a mindful little sheep. GO along with the liberal doctrine and do not tell the truth. You could get kicked out of school, harassed at your job, fired from work and stalked by braindead college students who believe everything their shill professors tell them. Harassment, stalking and threats are par for the course of the new liberal America. It costs money of course. Much more than any conservative government would even with two wars and a major disaster. Imagine that. The threats extend to a complaceny in the American populace. I will take what I can because if I complain I could lose it all. I am so tired of the BS but this is over and done with really. America needed to do something before this point. Now it is just the fall. That is all that is left because no one would tell the truth. Live in fear and it only gets worse. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22517985 United States 02/22/2013 06:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sources.. min wage: [link to www.dol.gov] gold prices: [link to www.nma.org] so from this i conclude that gold is money. these paper dollars are not. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34938019 United States 02/22/2013 06:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is both tragic and pathetic. Quoting: Alexander “If the minimum wage had risen in step with productivity growth [since 1968], it would be over $16.50 an hour today. That is higher than the hourly wages earned by 40 percent of men and half of women.” his means the gains went…somewhere else. See if you can guess who got them? (Hint: it’s the 1 percent; this is one driver of the terrible income and wealth inequality.) This breakoff of wages from productivity growth is partly the result of trade agreements that pit Americans against exploited workers in non-democracies. This weakened the bargaining power of unions, moved factories and industries out of the country, devastated entire regions of our country — and gave the giant multinational corporations, Wall Street and the billionaires the leverage they needed. [link to thecontributor.com] Dipshit. in 1968 it didn't cost a business anywhere near what it does now to employ a person. Your mythical "1%" boogeyman is bogus propaganda. Remove the cost of labor and wages will increase. Remove the pool of about 10 million potential illegal alien workers and wages will increase. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34750088 Hong Kong 02/22/2013 06:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is both tragic and pathetic. Quoting: Alexander “If the minimum wage had risen in step with productivity growth [since 1968], it would be over $16.50 an hour today. That is higher than the hourly wages earned by 40 percent of men and half of women.” his means the gains went…somewhere else. See if you can guess who got them? (Hint: it’s the 1 percent; this is one driver of the terrible income and wealth inequality.) This breakoff of wages from productivity growth is partly the result of trade agreements that pit Americans against exploited workers in non-democracies. This weakened the bargaining power of unions, moved factories and industries out of the country, devastated entire regions of our country — and gave the giant multinational corporations, Wall Street and the billionaires the leverage they needed. [link to thecontributor.com] Its the private sectors failings, supported by a spineless government. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34750088 Hong Kong 02/22/2013 06:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is both tragic and pathetic. Quoting: Alexander “If the minimum wage had risen in step with productivity growth [since 1968], it would be over $16.50 an hour today. That is higher than the hourly wages earned by 40 percent of men and half of women.” his means the gains went…somewhere else. See if you can guess who got them? (Hint: it’s the 1 percent; this is one driver of the terrible income and wealth inequality.) This breakoff of wages from productivity growth is partly the result of trade agreements that pit Americans against exploited workers in non-democracies. This weakened the bargaining power of unions, moved factories and industries out of the country, devastated entire regions of our country — and gave the giant multinational corporations, Wall Street and the billionaires the leverage they needed. [link to thecontributor.com] Dipshit. in 1968 it didn't cost a business anywhere near what it does now to employ a person. Your mythical "1%" boogeyman is bogus propaganda. Remove the cost of labor and wages will increase. Remove the pool of about 10 million potential illegal alien workers and wages will increase. illegals do jobs no US citizen would take. Get real. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28622121 United States 02/22/2013 06:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not a single person yet in this thread has identified the problem. Not surprising. Truth - documentary trailer [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22517985 United States 02/22/2013 06:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not a single person yet in this thread has identified the problem. Not surprising. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28622121 Truth - documentary trailer [link to www.youtube.com] saw this trailer the other day. watched it like a dozen times lol. cant wait for the whole thing to come out. |
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