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WTF...Saturn's Shockwaves Reach Supernova Force

 
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WTF...Saturn's Shockwaves Reach Supernova Force
During a chance encounter with what appears to be an unusually strong blast of solar wind at Saturn, NASA's Cassini spacecraft detected particles being accelerated to ultra-high energies. This is similar to the acceleration that takes place around distant supernovas. "Cassini has essentially given us the capability of studying the nature of a supernova shock in situ in our own solar system, bridging the gap to distant high-energy astrophysical phenomena that are usually only studied remotely," said Adam Masters of the Institute of Space and Astronautical Science, Sagamihara, Japan.

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OK.....So is said shock wave going to hit earth?????

This will show us if it does... [link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

A shock wave moving at near light speed is crazy...And how the hell will it only hit Saturn....

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Re: WTF...Saturn's Shockwaves Reach Supernova Force
Depends where it gets shot out of. What side and what direction. Good thing its only Saturn and not Earth directed.
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Re: WTF...Saturn's Shockwaves Reach Supernova Force
Depends where it gets shot out of. What side and what direction. Good thing its only Saturn and not Earth directed.
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Ya....Im trying to dig the web for more news on this...Be nice to see we will not be hit by this shockwave.....If its from a supernova....I just can't see how this will miss us the wave spreads out over time and distance....
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Re: WTF...Saturn's Shockwaves Reach Supernova Force
Maybe we should seek:

Cassini's location at time of discovery?
Cassini's instrument(s) that detected discovery?
Cassini's direction they faced at time of discovery?

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Re: WTF...Saturn's Shockwaves Reach Supernova Force
Ill tell ya something if we get hit we may see HUGE earthquakes if out magnetosphere rebounds from the incoming shockwave....



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Re: WTF...Saturn's Shockwaves Reach Supernova Force
I don't want to immediately connect science to religion, but it needs to be said...

There Are So Many "SIGNS" In The Heavens, Happening In Our Solar System Of Late. So Many "MYSTERIOUS" Happenings, Most Of Which Are Unexplainable Or Unrecorded In Our (Short) History.

These Scientific "EVENTS" Not Only Support ALL Religious Propheicies Of What Some May Call The Dawn Of A New Age, But The "PROOF" Of A Living God And A Universal Design.

So Many Ancient Cultures And Religions Spoke Of What To Look For And We See Them Happening In Our Current Times.

NOW... The World Governments Continue To Remain Absoultely SILENT And Dumbfounded Regarding What Is Going On With Our Solar System. If They Do Know Anything, They LIE And Deny What Is Going On, Yet Again, Fullfilling All Prophecies Of The Blind Leading The Blind.

And The Sheeple, Despite So Many OBVIOUS Happenings Going On, As Above And So Below, Question Nothing, Do Nothing, Say Nothing...And Continue About Their Pathetic Little Lives As If Everything Is Normal, When CLEARLY It's Not.

So, In The End, What's Amazing And Strange, Isn't Really The
Events That Are Unfolding Before Our Very Eyes, But The Way Humanity Is Reacting To Them.

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Re: WTF...Saturn's Shockwaves Reach Supernova Force
I don't want to immediately connect science to religion, but it needs to be said...

There Are So Many "SIGNS" In The Heavens, Happening In Our Solar System Of Late. So Many "MYSTERIOUS" Happenings, Most Of Which Are Unexplainable Or Unrecorded In Our (Short) History.

These Scientific "EVENTS" Not Only Support ALL Religious Propheicies Of What Some May Call The Dawn Of A New Age, But The "PROOF" Of A Living God And A Universal Design.

So Many Ancient Cultures And Religions Spoke Of What To Look For And We See Them Happening In Our Current Times.

NOW... The World Governments Continue To Remain Absoultely SILENT And Dumbfounded Regarding What Is Going On With Our Solar System. If They Do Know Anything, They LIE And Deny What Is Going On, Yet Again, Fullfilling All Prophecies Of The Blind Leading The Blind.

And The Sheeple, Despite So Many OBVIOUS Happenings Going On, As Above And So Below, Question Nothing, Do Nothing, Say Nothing...And Continue About Their Pathetic Little Lives As If Everything Is Normal, When CLEARLY It's Not.

So, In The End, What's Amazing And Strange, Isn't Really The
Events That Are Unfolding Before Our Very Eyes, But The Way Humanity Is Reacting To Them.

banana2
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Totally agree Knowbody....Thanks for your post herebdance
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Re: WTF...Saturn's Shockwaves Reach Supernova Force
I don't want to immediately connect science to religion, but it needs to be said...

There Are So Many "SIGNS" In The Heavens, Happening In Our Solar System Of Late. So Many "MYSTERIOUS" Happenings, Most Of Which Are Unexplainable Or Unrecorded In Our (Short) History.

These Scientific "EVENTS" Not Only Support ALL Religious Propheicies Of What Some May Call The Dawn Of A New Age, But The "PROOF" Of A Living God And A Universal Design.

So Many Ancient Cultures And Religions Spoke Of What To Look For And We See Them Happening In Our Current Times.

NOW... The World Governments Continue To Remain Absoultely SILENT And Dumbfounded Regarding What Is Going On With Our Solar System. If They Do Know Anything, They LIE And Deny What Is Going On, Yet Again, Fullfilling All Prophecies Of The Blind Leading The Blind.

And The Sheeple, Despite So Many OBVIOUS Happenings Going On, As Above And So Below, Question Nothing, Do Nothing, Say Nothing...And Continue About Their Pathetic Little Lives As If Everything Is Normal, When CLEARLY It's Not.

So, In The End, What's Amazing And Strange, Isn't Really The
Events That Are Unfolding Before Our Very Eyes, But The Way Humanity Is Reacting To Them.

banana2
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It could be that our universe behaved relatively uniformly for the past 2000-3000 years and now it is entering another non-uniform period. Science loves to find a few variables, assume some boundary condition is universal (without proof) and derive a model. They compare their results from the model from observations, observations made in what the past 400 years maybe and then extrapolate to billions of years.

Really, when you think about it, science is more religion than most religions as it takes a greater amount of faith to believe their conjecture.

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Re: WTF...Saturn's Shockwaves Reach Supernova Force
Maybe we should seek:

Cassini's location at time of discovery?
Cassini's instrument(s) that detected discovery?
Cassini's direction they faced at time of discovery?
 Quoting: TastyThoughts


I found telemetry images from Cassini on the shockwave but they are so small they are unreadable.....
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Re: WTF...Saturn's Shockwaves Reach Supernova Force
I don't want to immediately connect science to religion, but it needs to be said...

There Are So Many "SIGNS" In The Heavens, Happening In Our Solar System Of Late. So Many "MYSTERIOUS" Happenings, Most Of Which Are Unexplainable Or Unrecorded In Our (Short) History.

These Scientific "EVENTS" Not Only Support ALL Religious Propheicies Of What Some May Call The Dawn Of A New Age, But The "PROOF" Of A Living God And A Universal Design.

So Many Ancient Cultures And Religions Spoke Of What To Look For And We See Them Happening In Our Current Times.

NOW... The World Governments Continue To Remain Absoultely SILENT And Dumbfounded Regarding What Is Going On With Our Solar System. If They Do Know Anything, They LIE And Deny What Is Going On, Yet Again, Fullfilling All Prophecies Of The Blind Leading The Blind.

And The Sheeple, Despite So Many OBVIOUS Happenings Going On, As Above And So Below, Question Nothing, Do Nothing, Say Nothing...And Continue About Their Pathetic Little Lives As If Everything Is Normal, When CLEARLY It's Not.

So, In The End, What's Amazing And Strange, Isn't Really The
Events That Are Unfolding Before Our Very Eyes, But The Way Humanity Is Reacting To Them.

banana2
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You are right on track actually. If you do some digging, they actually prove each other. Separating the two is what got us in this mess to begin with.
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Re: WTF...Saturn's Shockwaves Reach Supernova Force
At the primary level of awareness, we all know what's happening. The perplexing nature of our species is how we hide from the truth and pay it no mind.

The only rational conclusion is that we are addicted to our need for death. Dying is the only thing we all agree to having in common. Some like to add "taxes" to this while in reality a good majority of the world's population doesn't pay taxes.

Death is a lie that we have contrived against all knowledge of the truth. So we live... and die. All while minding our own business, scurrying around to make the best of things until the curtain falls.
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Re: WTF...Saturn's Shockwaves Reach Supernova Force
Makes one wonder...

hmmm

Science doesn't know jack, it has theories that computer simulations are PROGRAMMED to say what it shows - data could be wrong. Models could be inaccurate, lacking variables, unknown unknowns, many of the OBVIOUS things do not take into account.

Something is obviously effecting our solar system as a whole. Could the reason 'meteors' are the norm is because these things are being catapulted out of the asteroid belt at us?

I totally believe that if a 'solar system' event were to occur, the chaos from it would obviously be used to start WW3.

Who knows...

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I think the question is why?
Get ready this energy will cause evolution or devolution.

Gravitational waves and neutrino correlation.
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IT HAS BEGUN

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Re: WTF...Saturn's Shockwaves Reach Supernova Force
Will the waves hit ONLY Saturn?

Depends on who else is included in the conversation.
The information dispatched may only be directed at Saturn.

Time for our science to recognise that planets are living entities.
It's all about the 'vibe'
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I say we blame the guy who tried talking me in to using a transmitting cube instead of a sonido diamond. No worries. We're all still here. I'll try again.
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Re: WTF...Saturn's Shockwaves Reach Supernova Force
This is true.

Only a fool would not see, what´s all going on.

No matter what one would call all this..



I don't want to immediately connect science to religion, but it needs to be said...

There Are So Many "SIGNS" In The Heavens, Happening In Our Solar System Of Late. So Many "MYSTERIOUS" Happenings, Most Of Which Are Unexplainable Or Unrecorded In Our (Short) History.

These Scientific "EVENTS" Not Only Support ALL Religious Propheicies Of What Some May Call The Dawn Of A New Age, But The "PROOF" Of A Living God And A Universal Design.

So Many Ancient Cultures And Religions Spoke Of What To Look For And We See Them Happening In Our Current Times.

NOW... The World Governments Continue To Remain Absoultely SILENT And Dumbfounded Regarding What Is Going On With Our Solar System. If They Do Know Anything, They LIE And Deny What Is Going On, Yet Again, Fullfilling All Prophecies Of The Blind Leading The Blind.

And The Sheeple, Despite So Many OBVIOUS Happenings Going On, As Above And So Below, Question Nothing, Do Nothing, Say Nothing...And Continue About Their Pathetic Little Lives As If Everything Is Normal, When CLEARLY It's Not.

So, In The End, What's Amazing And Strange, Isn't Really The
Events That Are Unfolding Before Our Very Eyes, But The Way Humanity Is Reacting To Them.

banana2
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This will be the beginning
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Re: WTF...Saturn's Shockwaves Reach Supernova Force
n-dimensional forces extruding into our 3-dimensional world.
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Re: WTF...Saturn's Shockwaves Reach Supernova Force
It seems like all is being said is that the solar wind (you know, the constant stream of high energy particles from the sun that protects us from higher energy radiation from outside the solar system) is interacting with Saturn to produce the same high-energy particle effects as a supernova.

That's not the same as saying it's as powerful as a supernova, though. Supernovas, in a matter of seconds, release millions of times the energy that the sun will release over its lifetime.

High energy particles are possible, millions of times of the sun's energy over a few seconds is not possible. Not in this case.

It's interesting for the study of how extragalactic particles interact with objects in the solar system and interesting to see how high energy particles react in nature in an up close way, but it doesn't really mean anything significant. It's just day to day stuff for the sun and Saturn.
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Normally I don't read anything with a skull as Avatar, but this was an exception.
Thanks.
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Re: WTF...Saturn's Shockwaves Reach Supernova Force
This is true.

Only a fool would not see, what´s all going on.

No matter what one would call all this..



I don't want to immediately connect science to religion, but it needs to be said...

There Are So Many "SIGNS" In The Heavens, Happening In Our Solar System Of Late. So Many "MYSTERIOUS" Happenings, Most Of Which Are Unexplainable Or Unrecorded In Our (Short) History.

These Scientific "EVENTS" Not Only Support ALL Religious Propheicies Of What Some May Call The Dawn Of A New Age, But The "PROOF" Of A Living God And A Universal Design.

So Many Ancient Cultures And Religions Spoke Of What To Look For And We See Them Happening In Our Current Times.

NOW... The World Governments Continue To Remain Absoultely SILENT And Dumbfounded Regarding What Is Going On With Our Solar System. If They Do Know Anything, They LIE And Deny What Is Going On, Yet Again, Fullfilling All Prophecies Of The Blind Leading The Blind.

And The Sheeple, Despite So Many OBVIOUS Happenings Going On, As Above And So Below, Question Nothing, Do Nothing, Say Nothing...And Continue About Their Pathetic Little Lives As If Everything Is Normal, When CLEARLY It's Not.

So, In The End, What's Amazing And Strange, Isn't Really The
Events That Are Unfolding Before Our Very Eyes, But The Way Humanity Is Reacting To Them.

banana2
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 Quoting: Artaius San


government psyop
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Not Physically Possible.

OP is possibly retarded.
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Re: WTF...Saturn's Shockwaves Reach Supernova Force
If its from a supernova....
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It's not. It's about studying particle physics of the solar wind occurring at Saturn which are analogous to particle acceleration occurring around supernova remnants. From your link:

"Since we can't travel out to the far-off stellar explosions right now, the shockwave that forms from the flow of solar wind around Saturn's magnetic field provides a rare laboratory for scientists with the Cassini mission -- a partnership involving NASA, the European Space Agency and the Italian Space Agency -- to observe this phenomenon up-close."

It's not like this just started happening, it's ALWAYS been happening, they're just now studying it in this manner.

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Thread: "Supernatural" Bomb to be Dropped During February , The Event of the Millenium!!
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Re: WTF...Saturn's Shockwaves Reach Supernova Force
These aren't actual shockwaves like from a supernova.

See it as this: In the LHC we collide particles to simulate the big bang. There are no actual big bangs taking place. This is the same with the solar wind impacting saturn.
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There accelerated due to Saturn and nothing else you moran. Nothing happens to earth but when it hits Saturn ......
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The fail is strong in this thread, apart from astronut ofcourse.
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During a chance encounter with what appears to be an unusually strong blast of solar wind at Saturn, NASA's Cassini spacecraft detected particles being accelerated to ultra-high energies. This is similar to the acceleration that takes place around distant supernovas. "Cassini has essentially given us the capability of studying the nature of a supernova shock in situ in our own solar system, bridging the gap to distant high-energy astrophysical phenomena that are usually only studied remotely," said Adam Masters of the Institute of Space and Astronautical Science, Sagamihara, Japan.

[link to www.dailygalaxy.com]


[link to vineoflife.net]

OK.....So is said shock wave going to hit earth?????

This will show us if it does... [link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

A shock wave moving at near light speed is crazy...And how the hell will it only hit Saturn....


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