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Nice to see the push back! Shove it Piers!

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These are tiny battles.

What about the war?

I applaud these people for standing up, but this needs to be going on with things that are just as important, like the NDAA, TSA, wire tapping, internet security, etc. I love that they are ready to defend this part of the constitution, but what about the rest of it, the bill of rights, etc.

For too long we've watched as our country and our nation has been hijacked using the "LAW" as their right to impose whatever they deem "Legalized" theft of property and rights against us all.

Where is this movement on Obamacare for instance?

The continued bank bailouts?

I love seeing this, I just wish it was across the board on everything that is unconstitutional .
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These are tiny battles.

What about the war?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34821704


We win by attrition.

If we'd quit feeding them, these evil tumors would die.
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


You've noticed that also huh?

We complain with our mouths while reaching for our wallets to hand them the fruits of our labor. Our servants have become our masters, and we have become their slaves.

I don't know how many times I've mentioned that if your paying for it, you can't bitch about it.
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These are small, but encouraging battles. The real fight is going to be fought at the Federal Level. Getting the Supreme Court to uphold the constitution of the US unless and until the states decide to change it by the votes required or a constitutional convention. But will the courts uphold the second amendment? I think the Supreme Court will. But who knows?
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These are small, but encouraging battles. The real fight is going to be fought at the Federal Level. Getting the Supreme Court to uphold the constitution of the US unless and until the states decide to change it by the votes required or a constitutional convention. But will the courts uphold the second amendment? I think the Supreme Court will. But who knows?
 Quoting: MarkinAZ




The supreme court? what a freakin joke! You have to be kidding me right? The supreme court that hasn't struck down the NDAA, hasn't stopped Obamacare, hasn't stopped illegal wire tapping, hasn't stopped the patriot act, hasn't stopped the groping done by the TSA, hasn't stopped to look at paperwork on Obama's birth certificate, hasn't prosecuted anyone for operation fast and furious, hasn't looked into the constitutionality of the bailouts and the merger of government with banks, and financiers of wall street!!!!!!

Is that the Supreme Court that is going to save you, that Supreme Court? That's who you look to for protection? Have they been protecting you? are they protecting you now?

Damn man! Grow up!

Santa Claus doesn't come down the Chimney, The easter bunny doesn't lay chocolate eggs, and the Supreme Court is not, I repeat not going to save you!!!!

This is a nation of "laws" ruled by "outlaws"

Get it?
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You can't complain if you don't vote!

You can't complain if you don't vote?

What they hell is that?

How about you can't complain if you are paying for your own slavery?

How about that one?

It's like the phrase patience is a virtue!

Have you noticed who doesn't have patience?

Have you ever noticed who in this world just takes what they want, passes laws like the NDAA and never bothers asking anyone about it? THat's right those who rule over you do. THey don't ask you for anything, they don't ask you what you want, they just take what they want with both hands, and they don't ask for permission, ok it with the supreme court, or ask anyone what the fuck they want!!!

Be patient, and we'll vote it back.

Patience is a virtue,

Why can't hurry the fuck up be a virtue?

How about that being the virtue?
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This is an example of one small way of guns protecting our rights.
All the angry prople here are people who own guns....they protested ( albeit to small government)...but still, they got their way...the people's voice counted.

go to the other end of the spectrum.....once the guns are gone and only THEY have the guns......that council meeting would have been like the occupy movement. Voiced United only to be scorned and ignored.
("Move along...nothing to see or discuss here....LaLaLaLaLALALA.)
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These are small, but encouraging battles. The real fight is going to be fought at the Federal Level. Getting the Supreme Court to uphold the constitution of the US unless and until the states decide to change it by the votes required or a constitutional convention. But will the courts uphold the second amendment? I think the Supreme Court will. But who knows?
 Quoting: MarkinAZ




The supreme court? what a freakin joke! You have to be kidding me right? The supreme court that hasn't struck down the NDAA, hasn't stopped Obamacare, hasn't stopped illegal wire tapping, hasn't stopped the patriot act, hasn't stopped the groping done by the TSA, hasn't stopped to look at paperwork on Obama's birth certificate, hasn't prosecuted anyone for operation fast and furious, hasn't looked into the constitutionality of the bailouts and the merger of government with banks, and financiers of wall street!!!!!!

Is that the Supreme Court that is going to save you, that Supreme Court? That's who you look to for protection? Have they been protecting you? are they protecting you now?

Damn man! Grow up!

Santa Claus doesn't come down the Chimney, The easter bunny doesn't lay chocolate eggs, and the Supreme Court is not, I repeat not going to save you!!!!

This is a nation of "laws" ruled by "outlaws"

Get it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34821704


Did the ALmighty!!!!
SUPREME COURT

THe all powerful protectors of the constitution, have they done their job?

NO!


The Contract which was the Constitution of the United States has been broken.
..
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
..
This statement is the very foundation for the creation of the Federal Government, yet numerous polls among other measures of a free, open and consenting governed show that this government is ruling in fact without our consent on so many different levels it's not even funny.
..

Amendment I
..
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
..
The number of offenses to this amendment are once again almost too numerous to account for. Your freedom of speech has been muted to the extreme. The right to assemble has been done away with completely, unless you have a permit.
..
H.R. 347, benignly titled the Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act, passed the House 399-3, means if you protest near the president you could face felony charges.


..
This alone illustrates an illegal government who has violated the United States Constitution.
..

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
..
Shall not be infringed, it never said infringed a little, regulated just a tiny bit, or tweaked a little.
Shall not be infringed.
..
With the new United Nations Gun Treaty, regulations, limitations, or the assault weapons ban that is being reintroduced, this is one of the last rights we have that is hanging on by a thread as of late.
..
Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Patriot act, TSA, 30,000 drones signed into law and ordered up, listening to our phone conversations, recording every keyboard stroke, keeping records of our DNA, and watching us all the time. We have no expectation of privacy any longer.
No one can say that this amendment has not been violated.
..
Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

One word, NDAA. No trial. No Process.
Predator drone assassination of U.S. citizens by decree of the President.

..
Amendment X
..
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Arizona enforcement of illegals crossing the boarder into their state.

Amendment XIII
Section 1.
..
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

..
But we do have slavery, complete with a number stamped on us, and sold to the bankers in order to create more debt in our name on a daily basis. We are cattle, no more than slaves.
In 1912 there was no Federal Income tax, no national debt to speak of, and No Federal Reserve bank, now we are nothing more than taxed slaves, and yes slavery does exist in the United States. We are born into an ownership situation with no options to opt out and remain free. We are never asked if we wish to participate, or be responsible for the actions of this government. We are simply numbered and accounted for.
..
Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as president of the United States:
“ No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
..
This one until proven otherwise in my mind is in clear violation. This man we have now pretending to be president, has failed to provide any proof of his birth certificate, and cannot even seem to show up in a court of law to show citizenship. He has placed himself above the law. Both of his parents were not natural born citizens. He is an illegal president. The most dangerous part of this, is that a man with that much power with that much over his head, could easily be controlled.
..
The Sixteenth Amendment (1913) authorizes unapportioned federal taxes on income.
..
This, is the one they can happily enforce, this is the one that they all can agree that cannot be violated. It is set in stone, and must never be averted. You must pay. Even if none of the above is followed or obeyed, even if they have all become outlaws, this is the one they will enforce at gun point with the threat of imprisonment. If you even talk about cutting this one off, it is considered treason. This is the one that extracts the money from you at times without your consent in order to pay for all the violations, and the police state mentioned above. As much as I've heard people gripe about all the things being done to them, this is the one that they comply with out of fear. ....



The Supreme court is directly responsible for the mess we find ourselves in now. They had one job to uphold the constitution of the United States, and any idiot can see they haven't
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Re: Gun Ban Repealed! As City Council Meeting Turns Into Massive Pro-Gun Rally
This is an example of one small way of guns protecting our rights.
All the angry prople here are people who own guns....they protested ( albeit to small government)...but still, they got their way...the people's voice counted.

go to the other end of the spectrum.....once the guns are gone and only THEY have the guns......that council meeting would have been like the occupy movement. Voiced United only to be scorned and ignored.
("Move along...nothing to see or discuss here....LaLaLaLaLALALA.)
 Quoting: Dace


Spot on!

Their rule is by fear!

They were the ones in fear, and chose to leave people alone.

This entire population and all of their control, all of it is fear based, no one consents to this government any longer.

They show 25 guys storming into some old farmers house and arresting him and his cows, the video is always at a time of their choosing with overwhelming force, and they show the looting and theft of the mans property and post it for all to see.

It is the same effect as posting someones head at the entrance into town that defied the KING. It is all fear based.
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Re: Gun Ban Repealed! As City Council Meeting Turns Into Massive Pro-Gun Rally
These are small, but encouraging battles. The real fight is going to be fought at the Federal Level. Getting the Supreme Court to uphold the constitution of the US unless and until the states decide to change it by the votes required or a constitutional convention. But will the courts uphold the second amendment? I think the Supreme Court will. But who knows?
 Quoting: MarkinAZ




The supreme court? what a freakin joke! You have to be kidding me right? The supreme court that hasn't struck down the NDAA, hasn't stopped Obamacare, hasn't stopped illegal wire tapping, hasn't stopped the patriot act, hasn't stopped the groping done by the TSA, hasn't stopped to look at paperwork on Obama's birth certificate, hasn't prosecuted anyone for operation fast and furious, hasn't looked into the constitutionality of the bailouts and the merger of government with banks, and financiers of wall street!!!!!!

Is that the Supreme Court that is going to save you, that Supreme Court? That's who you look to for protection? Have they been protecting you? are they protecting you now?

Damn man! Grow up!

Santa Claus doesn't come down the Chimney, The easter bunny doesn't lay chocolate eggs, and the Supreme Court is not, I repeat not going to save you!!!!

This is a nation of "laws" ruled by "outlaws"

Get it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34821704


Did the ALmighty!!!!
SUPREME COURT

THe all powerful protectors of the constitution, have they done their job?

NO!


The Contract which was the Constitution of the United States has been broken.
..
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
..
This statement is the very foundation for the creation of the Federal Government, yet numerous polls among other measures of a free, open and consenting governed show that this government is ruling in fact without our consent on so many different levels it's not even funny.
..

Amendment I
..
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
..
The number of offenses to this amendment are once again almost too numerous to account for. Your freedom of speech has been muted to the extreme. The right to assemble has been done away with completely, unless you have a permit.
..
H.R. 347, benignly titled the Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act, passed the House 399-3, means if you protest near the president you could face felony charges.


..
This alone illustrates an illegal government who has violated the United States Constitution.
..

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
..
Shall not be infringed, it never said infringed a little, regulated just a tiny bit, or tweaked a little.
Shall not be infringed.
..
With the new United Nations Gun Treaty, regulations, limitations, or the assault weapons ban that is being reintroduced, this is one of the last rights we have that is hanging on by a thread as of late.
..
Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Patriot act, TSA, 30,000 drones signed into law and ordered up, listening to our phone conversations, recording every keyboard stroke, keeping records of our DNA, and watching us all the time. We have no expectation of privacy any longer.
No one can say that this amendment has not been violated.
..
Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

One word, NDAA. No trial. No Process.
Predator drone assassination of U.S. citizens by decree of the President.

..
Amendment X
..
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Arizona enforcement of illegals crossing the boarder into their state.

Amendment XIII
Section 1.
..
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

..
But we do have slavery, complete with a number stamped on us, and sold to the bankers in order to create more debt in our name on a daily basis. We are cattle, no more than slaves.
In 1912 there was no Federal Income tax, no national debt to speak of, and No Federal Reserve bank, now we are nothing more than taxed slaves, and yes slavery does exist in the United States. We are born into an ownership situation with no options to opt out and remain free. We are never asked if we wish to participate, or be responsible for the actions of this government. We are simply numbered and accounted for.
..
Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as president of the United States:
“ No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
..
This one until proven otherwise in my mind is in clear violation. This man we have now pretending to be president, has failed to provide any proof of his birth certificate, and cannot even seem to show up in a court of law to show citizenship. He has placed himself above the law. Both of his parents were not natural born citizens. He is an illegal president. The most dangerous part of this, is that a man with that much power with that much over his head, could easily be controlled.
..
The Sixteenth Amendment (1913) authorizes unapportioned federal taxes on income.
..
This, is the one they can happily enforce, this is the one that they all can agree that cannot be violated. It is set in stone, and must never be averted. You must pay. Even if none of the above is followed or obeyed, even if they have all become outlaws, this is the one they will enforce at gun point with the threat of imprisonment. If you even talk about cutting this one off, it is considered treason. This is the one that extracts the money from you at times without your consent in order to pay for all the violations, and the police state mentioned above. As much as I've heard people gripe about all the things being done to them, this is the one that they comply with out of fear. ....



The Supreme court is directly responsible for the mess we find ourselves in now. They had one job to uphold the constitution of the United States, and any idiot can see they haven't
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34821704


Impressive post and spot on. Thank you for your response to this post . It made my night...


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Not going to quote the above, it would be too much text repeated again.

Thanks asleepnomore.
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Oh, hey, absolutely loved the video. Thanks!

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