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Who Thinks "The Bible" Is "The Word of God"

 
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"the bible is the word of god, not by god himself, but through god's spirit"

that's why it contradicts itself all the time and says other things that aren't true, like the earth is flat and the sun revolves around the earth?

book of lies
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Council of Nicea.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It is the word of God if you believe these people DID THE RIGHT THING. Problem is... no way of knowing is there?

Peace.
 Quoting: AwakenedDude

Council of Nicea did not 'determine' false "trinity" doctrine, if that's what you meant.
Neither did the Council of Carthage determine the Bible Canon, as the Catholic church claims. Canon of Christian Greek scriptures was already set some considerable time before.
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Jesus Christ is the Word of God in flesh. The Bible is about Him.
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really, maybe the NT but not the OT. And every intelligent being is the word of god.
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The Bible is primarily the word of man, though some of the original divinely revealed messages are retained within the old testament. There are passages within the Bible warning readers of it's corruption, for example Jeremiah 8:8. Most of this corruption was on the part of the Romans, others because of false prophets like Paul.
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Council of Nicea.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It is the word of God if you believe these people DID THE RIGHT THING. Problem is... no way of knowing is there?

Peace.
 Quoting: AwakenedDude

Council of Nicea did not 'determine' false "trinity" doctrine, if that's what you meant.
Neither did the Council of Carthage determine the Bible Canon, as the Catholic church claims. Canon of Christian Greek scriptures was already set some considerable time before.
 Quoting: chauchat


trinity is a very old concept borrowed over and over
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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for anyone who thinks the founding fathers were bible thumpers:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Thomas Jefferson removed all but ~60 pages of the bible stating that it was the only thing believable and the rest was likely inserted as control mechanisms by corrupt government / church officials.
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also "truth" is the only word of God. truth doesn't need to be argued, it's absolute. nothing else is absolute. truth and God are the exact same thing. christians fighting science are the largest face palm we have today.
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Council of Nicea.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It is the word of God if you believe these people DID THE RIGHT THING. Problem is... no way of knowing is there?

Peace.
 Quoting: AwakenedDude

Council of Nicea did not 'determine' false "trinity" doctrine, if that's what you meant.
Neither did the Council of Carthage determine the Bible Canon, as the Catholic church claims. Canon of Christian Greek scriptures was already set some considerable time before.
 Quoting: chauchat


trinity is a very old concept borrowed over and over
 Quoting: acegotflows


yes but false
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Council of Nicea.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It is the word of God if you believe these people DID THE RIGHT THING. Problem is... no way of knowing is there?

Peace.
 Quoting: AwakenedDude

Council of Nicea did not 'determine' false "trinity" doctrine, if that's what you meant.
Neither did the Council of Carthage determine the Bible Canon, as the Catholic church claims. Canon of Christian Greek scriptures was already set some considerable time before.
 Quoting: chauchat


trinity is a very old concept borrowed over and over
 Quoting: acegotflows


yes but false
 Quoting: chauchat


what's false? i'm not arguing. I'm just a bit confused by the statement. I think I understand what you mean, but I've been so misunderstood that I know to always ask for clarification
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Having read the Bible and being a Bible-believing Christian who tries to walk like Christ and teach my kids to walk like Christ, I believe the Bible is the Word of God.

There are multiple words within the Word. Semantics. God's Word is the only absolute truth on this earth. I cling to it and I am not ashamed.

Jesus is LORD! hf
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Having read the Bible and being a Bible-believing Christian who tries to walk like Christ and teach my kids to walk like Christ, I believe the Bible is the Word of God.

There are multiple words within the Word. Semantics. God's Word is the only absolute truth on this earth. I cling to it and I am not ashamed.

Jesus is LORD! hf
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this statement is a statement of belief and supporting it based on your tools. Does not make it false. everybody thinks the same way about whatever they have INVESTED in. You are correct about multiple words within it though. That is why I encourage people to use concordances, dictionaries and try and go thru lining up what you've been told vs what the languages and dialects of greek and hebrew have to say. I don't know very many people who have even tried to do so. So I cannot speak on the validity of their experience and beliefs- they are personal and nobody can prove to you anything besides you first. It's just how it works

I am glad that you found what you feel is your truth. One should not be ashamed of things they feel are true.
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Council of Nicea did not 'determine' false "trinity" doctrine, if that's what you meant.
Neither did the Council of Carthage determine the Bible Canon, as the Catholic church claims. Canon of Christian Greek scriptures was already set some considerable time before.
 Quoting: chauchat


trinity is a very old concept borrowed over and over
 Quoting: acegotflows


yes but false
 Quoting: chauchat


what's false? i'm not arguing. I'm just a bit confused by the statement. I think I understand what you mean, but I've been so misunderstood that I know to always ask for clarification
 Quoting: acegotflows


Can I get back to you tomorrow? I want to do justice to all your very good questions.
You're "Learning disabled"?
I hardly think so!
I did answer you here, which I only point out because it took me so long to write it.- Thread: Did Native Americans have access to the Bible? (Page 8)
hf
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Having read the Bible and being a Bible-believing Christian who tries to walk like Christ and teach my kids to walk like Christ, I believe the Bible is the Word of God.

There are multiple words within the Word. Semantics. God's Word is the only absolute truth on this earth. I cling to it and I am not ashamed.

Jesus is LORD! hf
 Quoting: cabbage_goddess


I read it and found so much error in it to be mind boggling. Not the word of God and there are much better "words" of god than the bible on this world. Conversations with God would one an example.
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trinity is a very old concept borrowed over and over
 Quoting: acegotflows


yes but false
 Quoting: chauchat


what's false? i'm not arguing. I'm just a bit confused by the statement. I think I understand what you mean, but I've been so misunderstood that I know to always ask for clarification
 Quoting: acegotflows


Can I get back to you tomorrow? I want to do justice to all your very good questions.
You're "Learning disabled"?
I hardly think so!
I did answer you here, which I only point out because it took me so long to write it.- Thread: Did Native Americans have access to the Bible? (Page 8)
hf
 Quoting: chauchat


I got it. thanks :). I was labelled because I used to question my teachers at a young age. I know I'm not "disabled" but the fact that I was labelled always makes me stick to base concepts as to not have to deal with people who don't like being embarrassed by a "retard" . Go too far retard, there's not winning in that situation LOL. my email is my username. I use yahoo so I'm easy to find. Universal access to those who feel like writing :)


"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Jesus warned that the scriptures are not sufficient to assure the presence of God's Word:

"And The Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.

Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life." (Jn. 5:37-40)
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This is because Jesus was still alive. He had to die for the Holy Spirit to enter his followers. There is this Gospel which is soon to be fufiled and then there is the everlasting gospel that is yet to come down from Heaven.

Revelation 14:6
And I saw another angel fly in midheaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and tribe, and tongue, and people,
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Actually the holy bible is not the word of God, but it happens to be "The Words of God".

God's Spirit can make the written words come alive to you (the act of revealing them to you).

But the scriptures testify (explain) that "The Word"...Is a totally different animal than the scriptures...For more proof, see these two links:


[link to www.all4god.net]

[link to prweb0.voicenet.com]
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You Christians, are missing the point. Plus IF you would read the post, you would see their is no attempt to do damage to the scriptures. What I am saying is "THE Scriptures" and "The Word" are TWO different things. The bible even states so.

The word came to peter and said "Peter rise and eat"...

The word also came to Jeremiah, as a WORD from the Lord.

You are NOT seeing the difference and are missing out on the other side of the coin.

IF I believed as you do, then we would all be believing that the bible is the last word, and God is now Deaf and Dumb.

Is that what you are saying?


Now all you anti-bible people, still have not explained the hundreds of prophetic verses about Jesus.


Hey...

I think you should read it.

God can make it alive to you.

I am not against the scriptures. I love to read them...

It's just that they are not the word of God. They contain the words of God, spoken in the past.

Plus don't forget prophecies in the scriptures and those that pertain to the last days.





I'm not going to lie, I just had the sudden urge to read as much of the Bible as I can lol. I've been through the Bible, but I dont truly KNOW it... Thank you for this :)
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Actually the holy bible is not the word of God, but it happens to be "The Words of God".

God's Spirit can make the written words come alive to you (the act of revealing them to you).

But the scriptures testify (explain) that "The Word"...Is a totally different animal than the scriptures...For more proof, see these two links:


[link to www.all4god.net]

[link to prweb0.voicenet.com]
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Man written fairy tale... Hey wasn't the talking snake in the bible too?
lol
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The OP needs to increase his meds dosage.
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As usual, using the bible to prove the bible.
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No it's not the word of god!
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Jesus Christ is the Word of God in flesh. The Bible is about Him.
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really, maybe the NT but not the OT. And every intelligent being is the word of god.
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Your not intelligent enough to read it?? Here, an excerpt for you:

Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.” Luke 24

You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me,yet you refuse to come to me to have life. (John 5:40)

These are the Scriptures that testify about me,yet you refuse to come to me to have life. John 5:40

But since you do not believe what Moses wrote, how are you going to believe what I say? John 5:47
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Actually it was the serpent who talked.

He was physically just like man. Probably had sex with eve.

Then cursed to be a snake.



Man written fairy tale... Hey wasn't the talking snake in the bible too?
lol
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If the word "god" is a collective noun for the myriads of people who have translated, interpreted, added and subtracted and then decided upon what was to be given to the masses hundreds of years after its conception (no pun) then yes, it is the word of "god".
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Its a History Book His-Story (Christ and Earth's)

The Pharisees did read the scriptures but they misapplied them, Back then they expected a King to Come and Set them up as being better than the rest of the world...

Christ came and He wasn't what they expected They expected Heavenly & physical prosperity then and there

Which is what has happened today with most of Christianity they expect a King to come and guide them soon, unfortunately that King will be Lucifer, who may or may not offer them their hearts desires, many have already turned their backs on God's Law (Satan's plan)

Personally I Believe the Bible has a lot of wisdom in it, not all Bibles are Built the same though, my simply test is this:

how many people died for whichever version Bible?

Find the Bible that people where killed for the Most and stick with that one, today's Bibles are missing whole verse's and they generally attack the deity of Christ, some of them are even produced on the same machines that make pornography and The Satanic Bible Ex The NIV which is way thinner than say a KJV.
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Council of Nicea.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It is the word of God if you believe these people DID THE RIGHT THING. Problem is... no way of knowing is there?

Peace.
 Quoting: AwakenedDude

Council of Nicea did not 'determine' false "trinity" doctrine, if that's what you meant.
Neither did the Council of Carthage determine the Bible Canon, as the Catholic church claims. Canon of Christian Greek scriptures was already set some considerable time before.
 Quoting: chauchat


trinity is a very old concept borrowed over and over
 Quoting: acegotflows


The Original Trinity was Anu, the Lord of Heaven, and his Two Sons, Enlil, Lord of Earth, and Ea, Lord of Waters.

Other Trinities include Enki and His son and Grandson, Marduk and Nabu, as well as Isis Osiris and Horus -- (also descendants of Marduk)
--"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos.
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The bible is gods guidebook on how one should live a Christian life but there is a lot of stuff taken out of context and the catholic church is known for burning some of the text.
LEO
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probably


The bible is gods guidebook on how one should live a Christian life but there is a lot of stuff taken out of context and the catholic church is known for burning some of the text.
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