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They say a Pope hasn't resigned for 500 years but that's not true. One resigned in 1958.

Benedict has just resigned. This time it's more open.

If he has moved pedo Priests around he will bear responsibility for that. He could have swept them under the carpet. His intentions will have been to keep the Church going.

Whoever is Pope now they will have the shadow of a living Pope. Cardinal Siri didn't die until 1989 and he was kept in confinement. Benedict has chosen confinement they say.
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What was the name of the one that resigned in 1958??
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Cardinal Siri
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Note it has never been proven just a theory
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Right.On.Cue.

Here is an example from our illustrious Cardinals years ago--->

“John Paul is such an embarrassment to the Church. He’s in a wheelchair! He can hardly talk! He must be removed. We [some Cardinals] are doing something about this. There are others who could be elected to the papacy. We need to do this now.”

[link to holysoulshermitage.com]

So what do you think they are saying about Benedict?

This was expected by the way. It is a Chess match. They just moved a pawn up. In the end, Benedict will check mate them.


VIVA IL PAPA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks for your highly informative and insightful comments on this thread. I for one appreciate a voice of calm amidst the haste and the noise.
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24 February 2013 Last updated at 05:37 ET


Cardinal Keith O'Brien 'accused of inappropriate acts'

Cardinal Keith O'Brien Cardinal O'Brien is the Archbishop of St Andrews and Edinburgh


Britain's most senior Roman Catholic cleric has been reported to the Vatican over claims of inappropriate behaviour going back 30 years, a newspaper says.

The Observer said three priests and one former priest have made the complaint against Cardinal Keith O'Brien, 74, leader of the Scottish Catholic Church.




They have demanded his immediate resignation, it said.


[link to www.bbc.co.uk]


33 LOL

Tool! Cardinal Tool, bet the call went something like this "do tell the press that it is high time for married Priests, etc.
"Yes, Mr. Rothschilds I will immediately go to the press..."

The other side is striking back. First, Mahony and now O'Brien.

If the pressure builds quickly both can be sidelined and should be they both have done enormous damage to the victims, to families and the Church.

Chess anyone?
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The examiner used the number 33, "33 years"
Message sent.

Mahony is next.

Pope sent to hospital ER
[link to www.spiritdaily.com]
Poison, i am afraid.

02/21/2013 09:47
INDONESIA - VATICAN
Conclave, Cardinal Darmaatmadja renounces for "health reasons"

Jesuits told him no, don't go.
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Right.On.Cue.

Here is an example from our illustrious Cardinals years ago--->

“John Paul is such an embarrassment to the Church. He’s in a wheelchair! He can hardly talk! He must be removed. We [some Cardinals] are doing something about this. There are others who could be elected to the papacy. We need to do this now.”

[link to holysoulshermitage.com]

So what do you think they are saying about Benedict?

This was expected by the way. It is a Chess match. They just moved a pawn up. In the end, Benedict will check mate them.


VIVA IL PAPA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks for your highly informative and insightful comments on this thread. I for one appreciate a voice of calm amidst the haste and the noise.
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan



24 February 2013 Last updated at 05:37 ET


Cardinal Keith O'Brien 'accused of inappropriate acts'

Cardinal Keith O'Brien Cardinal O'Brien is the Archbishop of St Andrews and Edinburgh


Britain's most senior Roman Catholic cleric has been reported to the Vatican over claims of inappropriate behaviour going back 30 years, a newspaper says.

The Observer said three priests and one former priest have made the complaint against Cardinal Keith O'Brien, 74, leader of the Scottish Catholic Church.




They have demanded his immediate resignation, it said.


[link to www.bbc.co.uk]


33 LOL

Tool! Cardinal Tool, bet the call went something like this "do tell the press that it is high time for married Priests, etc.
"Yes, Mr. Rothschilds I will immediately go to the press..."

The other side is striking back. First, Mahony and now O'Brien.

If the pressure builds quickly both can be sidelined and should be they both have done enormous damage to the victims, to families and the Church.

Chess anyone?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34787758


The examiner used the number 33, "33 years"
Message sent.

Mahony is next.

Pope sent to hospital ER
[link to www.spiritdaily.com]
Poison, i am afraid
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02/21/2013 09:47
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Conclave, Cardinal Darmaatmadja renounces for "health reasons"

Jesuits told him no, don't go.
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Leukemia?
[link to www.spiritdaily.com]

"Leukemia?""There are also rampant rumors that the pope’s health is far worse than anyone realizes. Whispers of late-night helicopter trips to emergency rooms and hints that he is suffering some terminal illness like leukemia pushed forward by Italian gossip site Dagospia are unconfirmed, but still won’t go away. Vatican spokesman Federico Lombardi begins each press briefing with a list of untruths he has read in the press, effectively spinning the stories back under Vatican control."

My guess is poison. That is the Roman way.

Fatima back in the news,
The Lord is calling me to “scale the mountain,”

Vision of Fatima- Pope climbing the mountain where he suffers martyrdom.
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Monaco?
Which way on the pendulum does Monaco swing? That one is tough to figure. Once upon a time but now? Oh Prince, will you shelter Peter when he flees? Or will that door be closed or will you be like Nicodemus at night? Pope Benedict visited Monaco for a reason the first in centuries. Everything he did was heavily calculated.

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Reiterate "Benedict the Reformer"

“This Pope has removed two or three bishops per month throughout the world because either the accounts in their dioceses were a mess or their discipline was a disaster,” said Archbishop Miguel Maury Buendia during a Feb. 20 address at the University of San Pablo in Madrid.

“The nuncio went to these bishops and said, ‘The Holy Father is asking you for the good of the Church to resign from your post.’”
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February 25, 2013, Monday -- New Rules





The second thing that happened today was that the Vatican released revisions to the rules governing papal conclaves.



The main point of these revisions was to allow the cardinals to start the Conclave earlier, if they wish to.



According to the old rules, the Conclave needed to begin not earlier than 15 days and not later than 20 days after the death of the Pope.



The new rules allow the cardinals to vote on the first day after the vacancy begins to begin the Conclave whenever they wish.



The reason for the rule change is that there is no papal funeral, which normally would require nine days.



Theoretically, the cardinals could actually vote to begin their Conclave almost immediately, even on March 2, that is, on Saturday. That woiuld be a stunning decision, and is not expected. It is widely expected that they vote to begin the Conclave on or about March 10.



It now appears that those who would like a quick Conclave are those who more closely associated with the Curia. At first, there seemed to be no desire on the part of the cardinals to delay the Conclave, so the consensus seemed to be to vote to begin by March 10 or so. However, recently, following remarks by several cardinals expressing a wish to have "enough time" to consider everything prayerfully, there seems to be emerging an idea that perhaps delaying the Conclave to the 15th, or even later, would not be a bad idea.



It appears that, if one or more cardinals would wish to delay the Conclave, they could do so by not attending the first few sessions, on March 1 and following days, since this document, accodrding to the letter of its text, seems to say that a vote to bring the Conclave forward to an earlier date cannot be taken unless all the voting cardinals are present.



So by staying away, one cardinal could prevent the election from being scheduled earlier than March 15 -- it would seem.



The relevant paragraph is No. 37: "the College of Cardinals is also granted the faculty to anticipate the beginning of the Conclave if all the Cardinal electors are present as well as the faculty to defer, for serious reasons, the beginning of the election for a few additional days."



Another change in the rules is a much stricter policy regarding secrecy. Any violation of the secrecy of the Conclave is now punished by automatic excommunication from the Church.



A third change is that the election must be by a two-thirds margin, even after many, many votes. In the old rules, written under Pope John Paul II, after 34 votes, the rules allowed for two candidates to be "finalists" and then for one to be elected by a simple majority.



This means that the next Pope must, before being elected, gather around him a consensus of at least 2/3s of all the voting cardinals.



There is another change here mandated in the Conclave process. In the press conference about the norms of the (now superseded) Apostolic Constitution Universi Gregis Dominici two days ago, the Secretary of the Pontifical Council for the Interpretation of Legislative Texts was asked: "After so many votes, there is a run-off between two cardinals only, the two highest vote-getters in the preceding vote. They themselves do not vote, but the required 2/3 of the remaining Cardinals is still required for election. What happens if neither cardinal gathers the support of 2/3 of the electors in this run-off vote?"



The bishop secretary answered that, in his opinion, to break the deadlock, everything would start all over again, with everybody becoming eligible again.



With this Motu Proprio, Pope Benedict decided otherwise. If the run-off takes place, then in all subsequent votes the same two people will continue being the only ones capable of being chosen, until someone among them receives 2/3 of the votes.

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So by staying away, one cardinal could prevent the election from being scheduled earlier than March 15 -- it would seem.
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February 27, 2013 by Robert Moynihan, PhD.

“Cast it into the fire!”

—From J.R.R. Tolkien’s The Lord of the Rings, the words of Elrond in the heart of Mount Doom, as he urges Isildur to throw the ring of power into the fire from which it was forged, the one place where it can be destroyed. But the ring whispers to Isildur, and he does not destroy it. Recalling that moment, Elrond says: “It should have ended that day, but evil was allowed to endure. Isildur kept the Ring.” Then he adds: “The line of kings is broken. There is no strength left in the world of Men. They’re scattered, divided, leaderless.” Then Gandalf says: “There is one who could unite them, one who could reclaim the throne…”

On Thursday, February 28, three hours before his pontificate ends, Pope Benedict will lift off in a helicopter from the highest point in the Vatican gardens and fly to the papal summer villa at Castel Gandolfo.
Pope Benedict XVI's ring carries the inscription “Benedictus XVI” — the Pope’s official title in Latin.

Pope Benedict XVI’s ring carries the inscription “Benedictus XVI” — the Pope’s official title in Latin.

Then, at 8 p.m. on February 28 — the exact moment Pope Benedict has said he will cease being Pope — the Swiss Guards stationed at the main doors of the papal villa at Castel Gandolfo will withdraw and close the doors,


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So by staying away, one cardinal could prevent the election from being scheduled earlier than March 15 -- it would seem.
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at least two eligible cardinals have said they're not attending the conclave -- do they have to be at the meeting that decides when it's held?
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So by staying away, one cardinal could prevent the election from being scheduled earlier than March 15 -- it would seem.
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at least two eligible cardinals have said they're not attending the conclave -- do they have to be at the meeting that decides when it's held?
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Yes, they do

Mahony is already there, to the chagrin of many Catholics and Cardinals. The Roman See really don't want him to be there.



One report of a Cardinal passing although too old to vote according to the rules.

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114 or 115 Cardinals are elegible opined John Thavis

John Thavis author of Vatican Diaries is interviewed by NPR

[link to www.kuow.org]

On the "Italian way" of doing things at the Vatican

"For an Italian business operation, perhaps awarding contracts to your friends in the industry is not an unusual thing. It shouldn't really be happening at the Vatican. ... In the Vatican, people get jobs by being recommandato, right? They need somebody's connection to get the job. If you want a parking place, you need to go through these connections. Almost everything done at the Vatican is through connections. So when we talk about corruption, it's often this very petty kind of corruption that, as I say, is part of the process of living in Italy. And yet people are questioning, 'Should it be part of the process of operations at the Vatican?' "

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The Possible Chastisement of the
Third Secret of Fatima

by John F. Salza, J.D.


Long read yet very important.


"If this is the Secret, it must be the reason why Sister Lucia could not initially write it down, even after having been commanded to do so by her bishop. What could possibly have scared Lucia in such a manner? After all, she had seen a vision of hell and had been threatened with torture and death as a child. Surely, Our Lady’s description of the aftermath of an EMP attack could have done so. This may also be why Malachi Martin revealed on the Art Bell Show in 1997 that the Third Secret is more shocking than people can imagine. After revealing the Secret is “much worse” than a natural disaster, he said it “would give a shock, would terrify people, would fill confessionals on Saturday night, would fill the cathedrals, the basilicas, and the churches with believers on their knees, beating their breasts.”[16] People do not react that way for warnings of apostasy, especially when these warnings are in Scripture and most of the world is already apostate. But such a reaction is not only conceivable, but expected from those faithful who believe their lives could suddenly be transformed into incomprehensible terror, knowing their fate is in the hands of one man, the Pope (with whom they must now publicly plead to be spared through the consecration). "
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link to the long article on the Chastisement

[link to www.remnantnewspaper.com]




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My take: Infighting within a crime syndicate (The Vatican). My hope: It all comes to light, people stop worshiping these idiots and do what JC would have REALLY wanted. YMMV.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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The Prophecies finally make sense. The Bishop in white (Benedict) and the Pope that is driven out of Rome.

We puzzled over how the Bishop in White (Benedict) is shot in Rome and at the same time many prophecies pointing to the Pope fleeing from Rome (Peter the Roman). The gap is now filled.

Bring on the Prophecies.
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link to the long article on the Chastisement

[link to www.remnantnewspaper.com]




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From the article:

"In 2000, the Vatican revealed that in the third part of the Secret Our Lady prophesies a possible execution of a Pope, along with bishops, priests, religious and laity in a city half in ruins, perhaps devastated by a nuclear attack."

When I was 16 (I'm 61 now), I had a very vivid dream of St. Peter's Basilica with a huge mushroom cloud behind it. I remember the details very clearly. At the time I was horrified (practicing RC then). Now,.... not so much.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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I thought the whole gathering of the Knights of Malta was kind of odd. Almost looked like siege.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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he stepped down to do the new Star Wars
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LOL!
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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I thought the whole gathering of the Knights of Malta was kind of odd. Almost looked like siege.
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You said it.

Who took over the Vatican Bank?




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I thought the whole gathering of the Knights of Malta was kind of odd. Almost looked like siege.
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You said it.

Who took over the Vatican Bank?




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Ernst Conrad Rudolf von Freyberg-Eisenberg-Allmendingen (born 26 October 1958 in Geneva) is a German manager and current head of the Vatican Bank.[1]
Von Freyberg is the eldest of three sons of Ulrich von Freyberg-Eisenberg-Allmendingen and Brita Gertrud Blohm. He is married[2] and a member of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Prophecy from 2008

"The one who could have been Peter will become Judas. He will open the doors for the enemy and will make men and women of faith suffer."




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I thought the whole gathering of the Knights of Malta was kind of odd. Almost looked like siege.
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You said it.

Who took over the Vatican Bank?




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Ernst Conrad Rudolf von Freyberg-Eisenberg-Allmendingen (born 26 October 1958 in Geneva) is a German manager and current head of the Vatican Bank.[1]
Von Freyberg is the eldest of three sons of Ulrich von Freyberg-Eisenberg-Allmendingen and Brita Gertrud Blohm. He is married[2] and a member of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Precisely



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Sounds like he's given up to me.
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Sounds like he's going to be under house arrest to me.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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Catholics need to realize what they're into. My whole family is Catholic, and they're some of the most Bible ignorant people I know. Most Catholics sense something is wrong, but they're too comfortable or confused to do anything.

[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]
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I had an exgirlfriend, she went to church (not catholic) but did not have a bible... She just listened to the preacher, etc.

People need to listen to Jesus only
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he's a pretty low talker
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Funny!
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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Catholics need to realize what they're into. My whole family is Catholic, and they're some of the most Bible ignorant people I know. Most Catholics sense something is wrong, but they're too comfortable or confused to do anything.

[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13039567


I had an exgirlfriend, she went to church (not catholic) but did not have a bible... She just listened to the preacher, etc.

People need to listen to Jesus only
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he's a pretty low talker
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Funny!
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hf
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Christopher Manion in Crisis Magazine reports that in 2012 Benedict "promulgated Intima Ecclesiae Natura, a law whose consequences will have a serious and lasting impact, especially in the United States." He is referring to the Motu Propio that LifeSite News extensively reported on. Manion says,

In the next twenty years, we will witness one of the biggest shifts in Church’s educational and charitable activities. When Intima Ecclesiae Natura, is fully implemented, the Church will have to sever its ties with an increasingly hostile, even hedonistic, secular government, and cease accepting government funding for its charities, its educational institutions, and its hospitals. The results will be revolutionary—and liberating.



Benedict the Reformer


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The Possible Chastisement of the
Third Secret of Fatima

by John F. Salza, J.D.


Long read yet very important.


"If this is the Secret, it must be the reason why Sister Lucia could not initially write it down, even after having been commanded to do so by her bishop. What could possibly have scared Lucia in such a manner? After all, she had seen a vision of hell and had been threatened with torture and death as a child. Surely, Our Lady’s description of the aftermath of an EMP attack could have done so. This may also be why Malachi Martin revealed on the Art Bell Show in 1997 that the Third Secret is more shocking than people can imagine. After revealing the Secret is “much worse” than a natural disaster, he said it “would give a shock, would terrify people, would fill confessionals on Saturday night, would fill the cathedrals, the basilicas, and the churches with believers on their knees, beating their breasts.”[16] People do not react that way for warnings of apostasy, especially when these warnings are in Scripture and most of the world is already apostate. But such a reaction is not only conceivable, but expected from those faithful who believe their lives could suddenly be transformed into incomprehensible terror, knowing their fate is in the hands of one man, the Pope (with whom they must now publicly plead to be spared through the consecration). "
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News