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The Trigger has been pulled, the Crash has begun. How are things going to play out? My take...

 
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We have obviously crossed the threshold folks, things are falling apart by the day and the game of Kick the Can has at long last gone as far as it can. The rest of the World no longer has a choice, the United States is no longer the big bully on the playground who won WWII and their fingers are no longer so firmly around the throat of the planet. The long lunatic nightmare of Bernanke monetary ponzi schemes cannot continue.

It will be interesting to see what their plan is to try and switch the U.S. (and possibly the World) to a new currency system. My take?

There will be an immediate bank holiday across the board, stopping all transactions of any kind in all avenues of banking and stock markets. This will likely happen on a Friday afternoon, and there will be no warning. A temporary state of martial law will be instituted, in which people are told to basically stay at home as though they are taking a sudden 'cheap holiday' and things like trucking of supplies of normal groceries and the like will be the only thing still going on under strict military rules, keeping all emergency supplies of diesel available to those lines of credit used for that infrastructure. Military escorts of supply convoys will be the only thing moving on U.S. highways for perhaps several weeks until they restart the engine under the new rules. Police in all cities will be given total freedom to 'shoot first, ask questions later' for any deviation from total movement restriction of citizens. Examples will be made, and the media will carpet bomb the public with this message.

The U.S. will lock down the dollar (both digital and paper) to a complicated SDR basket of currencies around the World, the Canadian dollar will figure heavily in this. This will obviously include devaluation across the board of many world currencies, and some of the currencies (like our Canadian dollar) will also be strictly controlled during this time (wanna know why we care so much? 90% of our economy is still directly tied to you Yanks) The U.N. and IMF will be token heads of an emergency council that all countries of the World will have no choice but to agree to (barring a few examples in the Middle East and North Korea, Cuba, a few South American countries, etc).

Debt restructuring will be performed from top to bottom. The 1.4 Quadrillion derivatives bubble will pop like the veritable tree falling in the forest that no-one hears. The wage structure of the entire United States will be chopped off at the knees when jobs are 'started' again, and people are going to learn rather bluntly that their standard of living is going to drop by a large margin. Even when financial markets are loosened on the leash enough to make it look like things are 'running', foodstuffs and all energy (gas, diesel, natural gas, propane, etc) will be price controlled from that point on. This could be seen as an enforced Socialist military junta rule, which it is, but honestly there really is no choice.

Production of goods will continue by force if necessary, people will clamor to the new low wage positions because they won't have a choice. It is either that or starve.

Inner cities could collapse entirely during the transition period, the military in all forms will setup blockades around zones in these areas and food rations will be handed over in exchange for firearms and ammunition. It doesn't even bear mentioning the horrors that await some areas during this period. Within two weeks of supply infrastructure collapse things like rape, murder, and cannibalism will be commonplace. People are exactly three square meals away from becoming savages, it is as simple as that. In San Fransisco there are 17,500 people per square mile, I won't go into lurid details but let's just say there will be shoot-outs in the local 7/11 for the last bag of Doritos a lot sooner than most people think.

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people are going to lose their minds
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Funny thing about predictions is that they always happen in the "near" future. Right? And therefor NOTHING EVER HAPPENS.
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I hope your prediction is wrong, however it does sound plausible. I just don't know what to do as far as money saved goes. Invest in what, besides food and necessities.
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Funny thing about predictions is that they always happen in the "near" future. Right? And therefor NOTHING EVER HAPPENS.
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Yes, except... Things really are happening. The pieces are being moved on the chess board by the day. It is more than 'business as usual' in the past few weeks. Or do you think they can keep open cheque QE3 rolling forever, with no consequences? Keep pretending inflation is 3%, keep the interest rate at ZERO, keep saying unemployment is around 8%? Can they really keep pretending much longer?
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What would you do? Sell home and be debt free with cash on hand or stay in home and continue to struggle with payments.
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What would you do? Sell home and be debt free with cash on hand or stay in home and continue to struggle with payments.
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It is too late for them to engineer a 'soft landing'. There is no point in trying to pay off personal debt anymore, the time has come to quietly stock your basement to the rafters with canned goods and the means to protect your stuff. If you live in an area where there is no chance of you being safe in a Crash, find relatives in a safer area and have plans on hand to pile in the car and go there with your last couple of tanks of gas.
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isnt kaibosh one of the degrees?
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We have obviously crossed the threshold folks, things are falling apart by the day and the game of Kick the Can has at long last gone as far as it can. The rest of the World no longer has a choice, the United States is no longer the big bully on the playground who won WWII and their fingers are no longer so firmly around the throat of the planet. The long lunatic nightmare of Bernanke monetary ponzi schemes cannot continue.

It will be interesting to see what their plan is to try and switch the U.S. (and possibly the World) to a new currency system. My take?

There will be an immediate bank holiday across the board, stopping all transactions of any kind in all avenues of banking and stock markets. This will likely happen on a Friday afternoon, and there will be no warning. A temporary state of martial law will be instituted, in which people are told to basically stay at home as though they are taking a sudden 'cheap holiday' and things like trucking of supplies of normal groceries and the like will be the only thing still going on under strict military rules, keeping all emergency supplies of diesel available to those lines of credit used for that infrastructure. Military escorts of supply convoys will be the only thing moving on U.S. highways for perhaps several weeks until they restart the engine under the new rules. Police in all cities will be given total freedom to 'shoot first, ask questions later' for any deviation from total movement restriction of citizens. Examples will be made, and the media will carpet bomb the public with this message.

The U.S. will lock down the dollar (both digital and paper) to a complicated SDR basket of currencies around the World, the Canadian dollar will figure heavily in this. This will obviously include devaluation across the board of many world currencies, and some of the currencies (like our Canadian dollar) will also be strictly controlled during this time (wanna know why we care so much? 90% of our economy is still directly tied to you Yanks) The U.N. and IMF will be token heads of an emergency council that all countries of the World will have no choice but to agree to (barring a few examples in the Middle East and North Korea, Cuba, a few South American countries, etc).

Debt restructuring will be performed from top to bottom. The 1.4 Quadrillion derivatives bubble will pop like the veritable tree falling in the forest that no-one hears. The wage structure of the entire United States will be chopped off at the knees when jobs are 'started' again, and people are going to learn rather bluntly that their standard of living is going to drop by a large margin. Even when financial markets are loosened on the leash enough to make it look like things are 'running', foodstuffs and all energy (gas, diesel, natural gas, propane, etc) will be price controlled from that point on. This could be seen as an enforced Socialist military junta rule, which it is, but honestly there really is no choice.

Production of goods will continue by force if necessary, people will clamor to the new low wage positions because they won't have a choice. It is either that or starve.

Inner cities could collapse entirely during the transition period, the military in all forms will setup blockades around zones in these areas and food rations will be handed over in exchange for firearms and ammunition. It doesn't even bear mentioning the horrors that await some areas during this period. Within two weeks of supply infrastructure collapse things like rape, murder, and cannibalism will be commonplace. People are exactly three square meals away from becoming savages, it is as simple as that. In San Fransisco there are 17,500 people per square mile, I won't go into lurid details but let's just say there will be shoot-outs in the local 7/11 for the last bag of Doritos a lot sooner than most people think.

Slowly but surely 'zones' will form, protected areas where people are moved (perhaps forcibly) and live under what seems like a fairly free system but is obviously locked down military camps. Again, is this a bad thing? They aren't necessarily trying to clamp down control, they have known for many decades the collapse would happen under a fiat currency system and have planned accordingly.

There will be a lot of hardship, a lot of deaths, in a lot of areas of the World and United States things will collapse into 'One Second After' conditions where attrition will reduce population drastically over the next several years. The media will cover some of this, but not the true horrors, and it goes without saying that 'the revolution will not be televised'. This means that the Internet will no longer be free, and when and if an 'Internet' is brought back up and running it will be the government sanctioned AOL style system with no freedom of any kind. There will be no anonymous communication, any Internet Service Providers will be under total government control and it will be technically impossible to transmit encrypted packets. As a result communication can be controlled, and when it gets to that point a smattering of free Ham Radio will be the only true source of freedom.

There will be pockets of resistance, even entire States that balk at the new way of things, at first they will be treated with hands off respect but in time they will be forced with simple supply blockades to conform to the new rules. They have the technology, and the patience, and the means to cut off outside supply. There will obviously be a lot of 'free people' out there, entire communities where they are self sufficient in every way - but these will be small Colonial technology areas that are visited by smiling officials on a regular basis to let them know the limitations of such existence.

I obviously can't say exactly when this banking holiday will happen, but I think it is safe to say it is going to happen sometime in the next 18 months for sure, and possibly a LOT sooner than that. They simply cannot keep pretending things are okay for much longer. Anyone who isn't a Prepper yet, there is still time as long as the stores are open and your debit/credit card still works. Lay low, don't brag about supplies, and stockpile simple foodstuffs for the time when your family needs to hunker down.

What do you guys think? I have spent my life as an Eschatological High Priest, studying and preparing for the inevitable Crash of our soft Western Civilization. We have lived the easiest life of any Humans in our History, but that ride is about to come grinding to a halt. How do you think the United States (and the rest of the World) will handle the 'adjustment' that is in the mail?
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there is a conspiracy but you are sidetracked by the psyop
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I am not going to get into meta-physical issues because that is not what this thread is about. No matter what greater War is going on in the higher planes for our soul energy, we still need to walk our meat bodies to the fridge for a beer here in this 3 dimensional (with 4th intersecting) 'reality' that we are trapped/exist in.
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All "governments" (corporations) are officially bankrupt and have been foreclosed on.

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All "governments" (corporations) are officially bankrupt and have been foreclosed on.

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 Quoting: Jaid0gz


The morality and legality of such a stance is irrelevant - the military industrial complex cronies still have their hands on the joysticks to the drones. The side holding the bigger guns makes the rules. It is too late for a general strike or any kind of mass civil disobedience similar to Argentinians banging their pots and pans together. We are way, way too dependent on the system, and therefore completely at its mercy.
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I think you are correct OP. It will become evident to most on March 1st, 2013 when the sequester begins and austerity begins. Market will really begin to tank as hundreds of thousands are laid off, and huge across the board cuts occur in the Federal Govt. After that...
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I think you are correct OP. It will become evident to most on March 1st, 2013 when the sequester begins and austerity begins. Market will really begin to tank as hundreds of thousands are laid off, and huge across the board cuts occur in the Federal Govt. After that...
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Yes, government workers are in for the biggest surprise of anyone. If you are paid wages from people who work to produce something, you are going to be abandoned from all sides when the hammer comes down. Prepare to be offered work that makes Foxconn wages/life a holiday by comparison. Former government employees are going to be pariahs and targets with nowhere else to turn.
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Pinned for interesting Friday discussion.

Stay with it OP.
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Hey OP ever considered writing a book?....good read....
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"This could be seen as an enforced Socialist military junta rule, which it is, but honestly there really is no choice."

Why is 'socialist' always tossed out. Pretty obvious that it should be changed in this scenario to 'National Socialist' rather than trotting out an amorphous Red Scare. It will be a thuggish right military dictatorship that emerges. Always does.

The revolution happened on 22 November, 1963; it WAS televised, but shorn of real content. We are now reaping the finality of our grand parents and parents acquiesence to it.
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Time to buy the farm before you "buy the farm".
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What do you buy with your soon-to-be-worthless cash in order to try and conserve some of your personal wealth to safeguard your family in the days ahead?

Real estate?

Only gold and/or silver?

Or, something else?

Or, would it be best to just get all the money you have in any banks out of the bank and in your own possession in cash in small denominations ($20, $10, $5, $1)?

If you do personally possess all your wealth in cash, don't you become a LARGE target for thugs/thieves?
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Only thing I disagree is regarding energy.
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I obviously can't say exactly when this banking holiday will happen, but I think it is safe to say it is going to happen sometime in the next 18 months for sure, and possibly a LOT sooner than that. They simply cannot keep pretending things are okay for much longer. Anyone who isn't a Prepper yet, there is still time as long as the stores are open and your debit/credit card still works. Lay low, don't brag about supplies, and stockpile simple foodstuffs for the time when your family needs to hunker down.

What do you guys think? I have spent my life as an Eschatological High Priest, studying and preparing for the inevitable Crash of our soft Western Civilization. We have lived the easiest life of any Humans in our History, but that ride is about to come grinding to a halt. How do you think the United States (and the rest of the World) will handle the 'adjustment' that is in the mail?
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Excellent theory and speculation all based upon existing factual situations.

You wonder "when" and "how" this will come about?

My speculation on the how and when of this is as follows:

1. Shortly after Obama visits Israel the US in conjuction with NATO and Israel will take action on Syria.

2. The resulting attack will pull in many nations prompting retaliatory attacks on Israel and the US. ( US attacks at first limited to terrorist type attacks).

3. With the US distracted North Korea strikes South Korea.

4. At some point in all of thia the US suffers a catastrophic military lose. Something so large it has not been seen since WWII...something like the loss of an Aircraft Carrier and all on board.

5. After the catastrophic military loss the US dollar drops like a rock as the only strength the US dollar has is our military strength.

6. At some point thereafter we are attacked by scud type rockets fired from nondescript container ships off off the east coast, west coast and the gulf of Mexico all tipped with EMP weapons made in North Korea.

7. The resulting "One Second After" type of situation is followed by the Russians and Chinese coming to "help" the American people and will be seen by some as liberators.

8. Then after the smoke clears and much of the US has been taken over and the people subdued (those who survived) a new global monetary system will be set up and a new global system of rule will be in place.


Suggested immediate course of action:

1. Arm yourself.

2. Stock pile food, water, seeds and meds/first aid supplies.

3. Get in shape.

4. Learn as much Chinese and Russian that you can.

5. Get right with God.

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great scenario, it looks like doom...massive derivative collapse, looks like firesale
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I am not going to get into meta-physical issues because that is not what this thread is about. No matter what greater War is going on in the higher planes for our soul energy, we still need to walk our meat bodies to the fridge for a beer here in this 3 dimensional (with 4th intersecting) 'reality' that we are trapped/exist in.
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Bet youre a lot fun at parties
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Any downturn will be a great market buying opportunity. Every time the market steps back, I see posts like this that are a great buy signal. Thanks for the green light. Looks like DOW 15,000 is in the cards this year. I dream of another market crash like 2008, this time I will buy in incremented lots towards the bottom to cost average into the recovery.
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The USD is over 81, the CAD is sub par and headed lower due to the very high Canadian consumer debt to income ratio (over 160 ... the US crashed with that ratio at 140) and we are looking at a slow motion crash of the Yen.. never mind the glut of natural gas and other new forms of fuel being created as we speak (no not electric or solar)

PTB are trying very hard to prop up the old petro dollar system, which you may be confusing with the USD, which is actually holding up much better than thought.....despite dire predictions for years now

I'm afraid your Canadian perspective, which is inherently biased to the negative about all things US is somewhat warped, but I'll give you 3 star for writing coherently and not writing in caps

Things will not play out as 90% of you believe
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Priest of the Eschaton, it's likely that you project yourself. If there's no Eschaton,
you cease to exist, ironically.
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Scatological High Priest is more like it.

sheesh.
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I think your essentially right OP. Just a matter of when. Thank god the sheep are still asleep though. I've been looking to replace my old backpacking stove and cook wear along with a few other things. It's still available but once the sheep figure out whats going on, all backpacking/camping type gear will be sold out in a heart beat. Get your stuff, now.
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I hope your prediction is wrong, however it does sound plausible. I just don't know what to do as far as money saved goes. Invest in what, besides food and necessities.
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BINGO........ Food and necessities! Matches, candles, soap, etc. Think of ways you will need to wash your clothes? One cheap alternative for washing clothes is a small plastic tub and a toilet plunger.

Begin thinking of ways too cook your food and what food is best that requires little preparation to cook and little to no energy to cook it!

Get food plant seeds and start a small garden for fresh veggies!

I could go on and on but you get the picture!
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BAYOU CORNE SINKHOLE ... This thing is going to go off and will be the trigger for martial law and all the other "fun" stuff the OP mentions ... IMHO
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BAYOU CORNE SINKHOLE ... This thing is going to go off and will be the trigger for martial law and all the other "fun" stuff the OP mentions ... IMHO
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what do u mean go off? is pressure building inside the thing?

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