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The Trigger has been pulled, the Crash has begun. How are things going to play out? My take...

 
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What about all the counties who want their money back?
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the countries?

they get paid with dollars...fresh off the press...

that's why this can't crash...the U.S. can keep paying debt with paper...worthless paper..that is stamped U.S. DOLLAR

it's just slow death of the dollar...it could take years
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GOSPEL STRAIGHT FROM MOMMIES BASEMENT.

Other countries will take offense top being intentionally screwed and will assume that they are entitled to take what they think they are due, and then some more for their effort and then take it all as punitive damages.

Certainly there must be some other adults posting in this thread that understand how things get done internationally.

Hisrorically, nations that get intentionally screwed, invade, and conquer those that fuck them over and dont simply take more worthless paper from some brokedick crack addict.
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Success, as defined by today's standards, will be turned on it's head in a shtf scenario. The successful will become mediocre/dead and the mediocre will become the heros/successful. Perhaps for the first time in human history, success will be pegged correctly, based on aptitude and tangible abilities and intelligence, and not based on one's ability to steal, strategically trample a competitor or score correctly on some psychobabble test. So there are some upsides here!
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"HOPE"????

Is that what preppers are relying on? They put their current life on hold, fearing the future, desperately "HOPE"ing they'll survive a disaster?

Do you not realize how terrifyingly stupid this is?
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im already losing my mind. my husband wants to move back to ny because hell have work there aaannnnd because probation (he beat a man to death for hitting me) is more lienient than pa. well have an apartment in broad channel, depression city. i have a 10 month old and my instinct says no dont go but he is my husband, wants to work an be with his baby and i dont want to break up the family.

i moved to pa, stocked up, prepared spiritually then had a baby:/....maybe being in ny will have my prayers answerd when i ask to be taken out in the first blow:(
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What about all the counties who want their money back?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13807648


the countries?

they get paid with dollars...fresh off the press...

that's why this can't crash...the U.S. can keep paying debt with paper...worthless paper..that is stamped U.S. DOLLAR

it's just slow death of the dollar...it could take years
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19932676


GOSPEL STRAIGHT FROM MOMMIES BASEMENT.

Other countries will take offense top being intentionally screwed and will assume that they are entitled to take what they think they are due, and then some more for their effort and then take it all as punitive damages.

Certainly there must be some other adults posting in this thread that understand how things get done internationally.

Hisrorically, nations that get intentionally screwed, invade, and conquer those that fuck them over and dont simply take more worthless paper from some brokedick crack addict.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


As long as we're keeping up appearances, the prospect of a nation invading us over debt isn't likely. No matter how destitute we are, those warheads are still locked and loaded, aren't they? They invade us, we turn their country into a very glassy ashtray. The only way an invasion would happen is if it's allowed to happen as part of the script to enslave us.
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The whole future is terrifying. Are you kidding me??!!?!

What SHOULD I be doing, if not HOPING I can survive?
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I remember watching one of the "prepper" shows, where the guy bought booze! Lots and lots of vodka - I think it was - so that he could use it as a barter item.

I'm thinking bartering becomes valuable, rather than coins, in the short term.
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And what prevents some paramilitary unit showing up and taking it all for nothing?

Nothing.
One man can do nothing against a larger group of men which are better prepared to take whatever they want

Why do the lot of you assume that there will be any law n order remaining when things crash?

There's barely any now, and I dont think it will get any better when the popo are no longer getting paid, or are getting paid to be someones private militia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


No, not for nothing. We prep cause we want to HOPE we can survive. That we can provide some semblance of hope for our family, for our future.

We prep because we know that if we go outside our doors during a military action we WILL be sent to a camp, everything we own taken away. Does that mean I will be able to fend off an attach by some paramilitary unit showing up at my door? I'm hoping they don't know I HAVE anything to take, and pass me by!

Also, I have done other "smart" things, like moving to a small county, away from a large city, and know my neighbors well enough to HOPE they don't kill me for my little bit of food (that they don't know I have, btw).

And NO ONE is assuming there will be any law and order remaining! We're all just hoping we can remain silent, invisible, and self-sustaining long enough for order to be restored in the crazy world around us.
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No, you prep because youre a frightened pussy afraid to defend your rights,
You prep to hide, to run away, to squeeze your eyes shut until the boogie man goes away, youre a self centered tard hoping against hope that someone else will save you from the bully youre afraid to say 'no' to.
You prep because you hand over your lunch money, and hope the bully forgets about you while beating up someone else.

Dont delude yourself, you prep because you lost
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Success, as defined by today's standards, will be turned on it's head in a shtf scenario. The successful will become mediocre/dead and the mediocre will become the heros/successful. Perhaps for the first time in human history, success will be pegged correctly, based on aptitude and tangible abilities and intelligence, and not based on one's ability to steal, strategically trample a competitor or score correctly on some psychobabble test. So there are some upsides here!
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History has shown over and over again that the powerful remain poweful. They may transform, but they remain powerful.
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It sounds like a plausible scenario. I still see the USA breaking into regions, like the collapse of the former Soviet Union.
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I agree, I think this will be the great break up of countries communities, societies, religions, and power. The end of paperwork, mortgages, deeds, governmental land claims, and the break up of power.
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people are going to lose their minds
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We passed that stage about 20 years ago.
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Is that when GLP started ?
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im already losing my mind. my husband wants to move back to ny because hell have work there aaannnnd because probation (he beat a man to death for hitting me) is more lienient than pa. well have an apartment in broad channel, depression city. i have a 10 month old and my instinct says no dont go but he is my husband, wants to work an be with his baby and i dont want to break up the family.

i moved to pa, stocked up, prepared spiritually then had a baby:/....maybe being in ny will have my prayers answerd when i ask to be taken out in the first blow:(
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Praying for you! Stay as far away from NY as you can!
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im already losing my mind. my husband wants to move back to ny because hell have work there aaannnnd because probation (he beat a man to death for hitting me) is more lienient than pa. well have an apartment in broad channel, depression city. i have a 10 month old and my instinct says no dont go but he is my husband, wants to work an be with his baby and i dont want to break up the family.

i moved to pa, stocked up, prepared spiritually then had a baby:/....maybe being in ny will have my prayers answerd when i ask to be taken out in the first blow:(
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IMO, no where east of the Mississippi is a good place to be. Hubby doesn't think there's a problem to be concerned with? Not sure what I'd do if I was yoked to a spouse that wasn't on board with what's brewing here.
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I remember watching one of the "prepper" shows, where the guy bought booze! Lots and lots of vodka - I think it was - so that he could use it as a barter item.

I'm thinking bartering becomes valuable, rather than coins, in the short term.
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And what prevents some paramilitary unit showing up and taking it all for nothing?

Nothing.
One man can do nothing against a larger group of men which are better prepared to take whatever they want

Why do the lot of you assume that there will be any law n order remaining when things crash?

There's barely any now, and I dont think it will get any better when the popo are no longer getting paid, or are getting paid to be someones private militia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


No, not for nothing. We prep cause we want to HOPE we can survive. That we can provide some semblance of hope for our family, for our future.

We prep because we know that if we go outside our doors during a military action we WILL be sent to a camp, everything we own taken away. Does that mean I will be able to fend off an attach by some paramilitary unit showing up at my door? I'm hoping they don't know I HAVE anything to take, and pass me by!

Also, I have done other "smart" things, like moving to a small county, away from a large city, and know my neighbors well enough to HOPE they don't kill me for my little bit of food (that they don't know I have, btw).

And NO ONE is assuming there will be any law and order remaining! We're all just hoping we can remain silent, invisible, and self-sustaining long enough for order to be restored in the crazy world around us.
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No, you prep because youre a frightened pussy afraid to defend your rights,
You prep to hide, to run away, to squeeze your eyes shut until the boogie man goes away, youre a self centered tard hoping against hope that someone else will save you from the bully youre afraid to say 'no' to.
You prep because you hand over your lunch money, and hope the bully forgets about you while beating up someone else.

Dont delude yourself, you prep because you lost
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


Oh, I'm deluded?!?! What do YOU do? Stand your ground, play RAMBO, and think you can whip 1,000 armed military and paramilitary people who will beat down your door for your 50 gallons of water and 45 cal.?

Or go willingly to the camps because there's 3 hots and cot there for you...........

Go.

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im already losing my mind. my husband wants to move back to ny because hell have work there aaannnnd because probation (he beat a man to death for hitting me) is more lienient than pa. well have an apartment in broad channel, depression city. i have a 10 month old and my instinct says no dont go but he is my husband, wants to work an be with his baby and i dont want to break up the family.

i moved to pa, stocked up, prepared spiritually then had a baby:/....maybe being in ny will have my prayers answerd when i ask to be taken out in the first blow:(
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Praying for you! Stay as far away from NY as you can!
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Ya, try to be "out" a ways out from the big city.
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What about all the counties who want their money back?
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the countries?

they get paid with dollars...fresh off the press...

that's why this can't crash...the U.S. can keep paying debt with paper...worthless paper..that is stamped U.S. DOLLAR

it's just slow death of the dollar...it could take years
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19932676


GOSPEL STRAIGHT FROM MOMMIES BASEMENT.

Other countries will take offense top being intentionally screwed and will assume that they are entitled to take what they think they are due, and then some more for their effort and then take it all as punitive damages.

Certainly there must be some other adults posting in this thread that understand how things get done internationally.

Hisrorically, nations that get intentionally screwed, invade, and conquer those that fuck them over and dont simply take more worthless paper from some brokedick crack addict.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


As long as we're keeping up appearances, the prospect of a nation invading us over debt isn't likely. No matter how destitute we are, those warheads are still locked and loaded, aren't they? They invade us, we turn their country into a very glassy ashtray. The only way an invasion would happen is if it's allowed to happen as part of the script to enslave us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31907650


Mommies basement speaks!

How little you inderstand about mankind. I'm surprised you know enough not to eat from a toilet.
People invade other people to profit, all they need is an excuse. Debt and saving national 'face' are just as good as another to decimate the natives and ship in your own.

Typical of the clueless liberal, you are unaware or tesist the truth that all things are part of a process, a continuum that flows logically and predictably depending on which variables are introduced, and imagine that all you have to do is focus on any one rosy secnario or comfortable event along the way to the exclusion of all others.

That's the problem, too much stupidity and too much absorbed propaganda, you cant even get to the starting blocks of the race for survival against a world full of enthusiasts that are willing to take everything you have
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Preppers,

I get busy right now. I do what I can to learn how to be successful right now in this world because I believe that the skills of success will alway be useful no matter what the state of the world may be.
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Funny thing about predictions is that they always happen in the "near" future. Right? And therefor NOTHING EVER HAPPENS.
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Yes, except... Things really are happening. The pieces are being moved on the chess board by the day. It is more than 'business as usual' in the past few weeks. Or do you think they can keep open cheque QE3 rolling forever, with no consequences? Keep pretending inflation is 3%, keep the interest rate at ZERO, keep saying unemployment is around 8%? Can they really keep pretending much longer?
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they can probably keep it going for another year or 2.
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The funny thing about a lot of you, all "prepared" with your preps, is that you are so impotent in the current world that you are desperate for a crash as the OP suggested. You falsely believe that when the SHTF you're the only ones who will be prepared to deal with it.

You need to realize that your preps makes no statement whatsoever about your ability to handle a disaster but instead makes a statement about how incapable you are right now.

I suggest you learn how to manage today much better than you are right now. The future will take care of itself.
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your point is somewhat logical...but..

wtshtf...and it will whether 1 month or 5 yrs...i'd rather stand with a prepper than with the 'successful people of the world' that say 'it'll never happen, let the future take care of itself.

those so called intelligent, successful people will put on a bbq in the metro cities.

don't think so?

then you are not nearly as intelligent as you think you are
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I feel much more confident dealing with people who have already proven that they can take care of themselves. Disasters or not, successful people more often than not will remain successful.
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again, good logic.

but you have learned nothing from history, have you?

study what actually happens in civil war, world war, hyperinflation...

your so called 'successful people' ARE VERY GOOD AT UNDERSTANDING A NICHE. They understand their little world that makes them money and they do well.

WHEN THE APPLE CART GETS TURNED OVER...THEIR SPECIALITY IS DESTROYED...and ...they get lost in the malee ...

don't think so? then you don't know history
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the countries?

they get paid with dollars...fresh off the press...

that's why this can't crash...the U.S. can keep paying debt with paper...worthless paper..that is stamped U.S. DOLLAR

it's just slow death of the dollar...it could take years
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19932676


GOSPEL STRAIGHT FROM MOMMIES BASEMENT.

Other countries will take offense top being intentionally screwed and will assume that they are entitled to take what they think they are due, and then some more for their effort and then take it all as punitive damages.

Certainly there must be some other adults posting in this thread that understand how things get done internationally.

Hisrorically, nations that get intentionally screwed, invade, and conquer those that fuck them over and dont simply take more worthless paper from some brokedick crack addict.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


As long as we're keeping up appearances, the prospect of a nation invading us over debt isn't likely. No matter how destitute we are, those warheads are still locked and loaded, aren't they? They invade us, we turn their country into a very glassy ashtray. The only way an invasion would happen is if it's allowed to happen as part of the script to enslave us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31907650


Mommies basement speaks!

How little you inderstand about mankind. I'm surprised you know enough not to eat from a toilet.
People invade other people to profit, all they need is an excuse. Debt and saving national 'face' are just as good as another to decimate the natives and ship in your own.

Typical of the clueless liberal, you are unaware or tesist the truth that all things are part of a process, a continuum that flows logically and predictably depending on which variables are introduced, and imagine that all you have to do is focus on any one rosy secnario or comfortable event along the way to the exclusion of all others.

That's the problem, too much stupidity and too much absorbed propaganda, you cant even get to the starting blocks of the race for survival against a world full of enthusiasts that are willing to take everything you have
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


hmm. ok.

so , according to your wisdom, Venezuela is about to be invaded? I haven't heard of any impending military conflicts with Venezuela.

hmm why not...they SHOULD BE hit soon by those nations that didn't like that Venezuela devaluted their bolivar by 47% recently...

hmm where are the warships, oh expert of international economics?

WHERE THE FUK ARE THEY?
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We have obviously crossed the threshold folks, things are falling apart by the day and the game of Kick the Can has at long last gone as far as it can. The rest of the World no longer has a choice, the United States is no longer the big bully on the playground who won WWII and their fingers are no longer so firmly around the throat of the planet. The long lunatic nightmare of Bernanke monetary ponzi schemes cannot continue.

It will be interesting to see what their plan is to try and switch the U.S. (and possibly the World) to a new currency system. My take?

There will be an immediate bank holiday across the board, stopping all transactions of any kind in all avenues of banking and stock markets. This will likely happen on a Friday afternoon, and there will be no warning. A temporary state of martial law will be instituted, in which people are told to basically stay at home as though they are taking a sudden 'cheap holiday' and things like trucking of supplies of normal groceries and the like will be the only thing still going on under strict military rules, keeping all emergency supplies of diesel available to those lines of credit used for that infrastructure. Military escorts of supply convoys will be the only thing moving on U.S. highways for perhaps several weeks until they restart the engine under the new rules. Police in all cities will be given total freedom to 'shoot first, ask questions later' for any deviation from total movement restriction of citizens. Examples will be made, and the media will carpet bomb the public with this message.

The U.S. will lock down the dollar (both digital and paper) to a complicated SDR basket of currencies around the World, the Canadian dollar will figure heavily in this. This will obviously include devaluation across the board of many world currencies, and some of the currencies (like our Canadian dollar) will also be strictly controlled during this time (wanna know why we care so much? 90% of our economy is still directly tied to you Yanks) The U.N. and IMF will be token heads of an emergency council that all countries of the World will have no choice but to agree to (barring a few examples in the Middle East and North Korea, Cuba, a few South American countries, etc).

Debt restructuring will be performed from top to bottom. The 1.4 Quadrillion derivatives bubble will pop like the veritable tree falling in the forest that no-one hears. The wage structure of the entire United States will be chopped off at the knees when jobs are 'started' again, and people are going to learn rather bluntly that their standard of living is going to drop by a large margin. Even when financial markets are loosened on the leash enough to make it look like things are 'running', foodstuffs and all energy (gas, diesel, natural gas, propane, etc) will be price controlled from that point on. This could be seen as an enforced Socialist military junta rule, which it is, but honestly there really is no choice.

Production of goods will continue by force if necessary, people will clamor to the new low wage positions because they won't have a choice. It is either that or starve.

Inner cities could collapse entirely during the transition period, the military in all forms will setup blockades around zones in these areas and food rations will be handed over in exchange for firearms and ammunition. It doesn't even bear mentioning the horrors that await some areas during this period. Within two weeks of supply infrastructure collapse things like rape, murder, and cannibalism will be commonplace. People are exactly three square meals away from becoming savages, it is as simple as that. In San Fransisco there are 17,500 people per square mile, I won't go into lurid details but let's just say there will be shoot-outs in the local 7/11 for the last bag of Doritos a lot sooner than most people think.

Slowly but surely 'zones' will form, protected areas where people are moved (perhaps forcibly) and live under what seems like a fairly free system but is obviously locked down military camps. Again, is this a bad thing? They aren't necessarily trying to clamp down control, they have known for many decades the collapse would happen under a fiat currency system and have planned accordingly.

There will be a lot of hardship, a lot of deaths, in a lot of areas of the World and United States things will collapse into 'One Second After' conditions where attrition will reduce population drastically over the next several years. The media will cover some of this, but not the true horrors, and it goes without saying that 'the revolution will not be televised'. This means that the Internet will no longer be free, and when and if an 'Internet' is brought back up and running it will be the government sanctioned AOL style system with no freedom of any kind. There will be no anonymous communication, any Internet Service Providers will be under total government control and it will be technically impossible to transmit encrypted packets. As a result communication can be controlled, and when it gets to that point a smattering of free Ham Radio will be the only true source of freedom.

There will be pockets of resistance, even entire States that balk at the new way of things, at first they will be treated with hands off respect but in time they will be forced with simple supply blockades to conform to the new rules. They have the technology, and the patience, and the means to cut off outside supply. There will obviously be a lot of 'free people' out there, entire communities where they are self sufficient in every way - but these will be small Colonial technology areas that are visited by smiling officials on a regular basis to let them know the limitations of such existence.

I obviously can't say exactly when this banking holiday will happen, but I think it is safe to say it is going to happen sometime in the next 18 months for sure, and possibly a LOT sooner than that. They simply cannot keep pretending things are okay for much longer. Anyone who isn't a Prepper yet, there is still time as long as the stores are open and your debit/credit card still works. Lay low, don't brag about supplies, and stockpile simple foodstuffs for the time when your family needs to hunker down.

What do you guys think? I have spent my life as an Eschatological High Priest, studying and preparing for the inevitable Crash of our soft Western Civilization. We have lived the easiest life of any Humans in our History, but that ride is about to come grinding to a halt. How do you think the United States (and the rest of the World) will handle the 'adjustment' that is in the mail?
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Cool story bruh...
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Good read,but i am thinking the powers that be, are going to enslave the whole planet and take everything everybody has, then the real chains of slavery will be draped around the worlds shoulders.Only way out is self destruct party like you never have before time is short for the future of the worlds population..
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What would you do? Sell home and be debt free with cash on hand or stay in home and continue to struggle with payments.
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It is too late for them to engineer a 'soft landing'. There is no point in trying to pay off personal debt anymore, the time has come to quietly stock your basement to the rafters with canned goods and the means to protect your stuff. If you live in an area where there is no chance of you being safe in a Crash, find relatives in a safer area and have plans on hand to pile in the car and go there with your last couple of tanks of gas.
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bump
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We have obviously crossed the threshold folks, things are falling apart by the day and the game of Kick the Can has at long last gone as far as it can. The rest of the World no longer has a choice, the United States is no longer the big bully on the playground who won WWII and their fingers are no longer so firmly around the throat of the planet. The long lunatic nightmare of Bernanke monetary ponzi schemes cannot continue.

It will be interesting to see what their plan is to try and switch the U.S. (and possibly the World) to a new currency system. My take?

There will be an immediate bank holiday across the board, stopping all transactions of any kind in all avenues of banking and stock markets. This will likely happen on a Friday afternoon, and there will be no warning. A temporary state of martial law will be instituted, in which people are told to basically stay at home as though they are taking a sudden 'cheap holiday' and things like trucking of supplies of normal groceries and the like will be the only thing still going on under strict military rules, keeping all emergency supplies of diesel available to those lines of credit used for that infrastructure. Military escorts of supply convoys will be the only thing moving on U.S. highways for perhaps several weeks until they restart the engine under the new rules. Police in all cities will be given total freedom to 'shoot first, ask questions later' for any deviation from total movement restriction of citizens. Examples will be made, and the media will carpet bomb the public with this message.

The U.S. will lock down the dollar (both digital and paper) to a complicated SDR basket of currencies around the World, the Canadian dollar will figure heavily in this. This will obviously include devaluation across the board of many world currencies, and some of the currencies (like our Canadian dollar) will also be strictly controlled during this time (wanna know why we care so much? 90% of our economy is still directly tied to you Yanks) The U.N. and IMF will be token heads of an emergency council that all countries of the World will have no choice but to agree to (barring a few examples in the Middle East and North Korea, Cuba, a few South American countries, etc).

Debt restructuring will be performed from top to bottom. The 1.4 Quadrillion derivatives bubble will pop like the veritable tree falling in the forest that no-one hears. The wage structure of the entire United States will be chopped off at the knees when jobs are 'started' again, and people are going to learn rather bluntly that their standard of living is going to drop by a large margin. Even when financial markets are loosened on the leash enough to make it look like things are 'running', foodstuffs and all energy (gas, diesel, natural gas, propane, etc) will be price controlled from that point on. This could be seen as an enforced Socialist military junta rule, which it is, but honestly there really is no choice.

Production of goods will continue by force if necessary, people will clamor to the new low wage positions because they won't have a choice. It is either that or starve.

Inner cities could collapse entirely during the transition period, the military in all forms will setup blockades around zones in these areas and food rations will be handed over in exchange for firearms and ammunition. It doesn't even bear mentioning the horrors that await some areas during this period. Within two weeks of supply infrastructure collapse things like rape, murder, and cannibalism will be commonplace. People are exactly three square meals away from becoming savages, it is as simple as that. In San Fransisco there are 17,500 people per square mile, I won't go into lurid details but let's just say there will be shoot-outs in the local 7/11 for the last bag of Doritos a lot sooner than most people think.

Slowly but surely 'zones' will form, protected areas where people are moved (perhaps forcibly) and live under what seems like a fairly free system but is obviously locked down military camps. Again, is this a bad thing? They aren't necessarily trying to clamp down control, they have known for many decades the collapse would happen under a fiat currency system and have planned accordingly.

There will be a lot of hardship, a lot of deaths, in a lot of areas of the World and United States things will collapse into 'One Second After' conditions where attrition will reduce population drastically over the next several years. The media will cover some of this, but not the true horrors, and it goes without saying that 'the revolution will not be televised'. This means that the Internet will no longer be free, and when and if an 'Internet' is brought back up and running it will be the government sanctioned AOL style system with no freedom of any kind. There will be no anonymous communication, any Internet Service Providers will be under total government control and it will be technically impossible to transmit encrypted packets. As a result communication can be controlled, and when it gets to that point a smattering of free Ham Radio will be the only true source of freedom.

There will be pockets of resistance, even entire States that balk at the new way of things, at first they will be treated with hands off respect but in time they will be forced with simple supply blockades to conform to the new rules. They have the technology, and the patience, and the means to cut off outside supply. There will obviously be a lot of 'free people' out there, entire communities where they are self sufficient in every way - but these will be small Colonial technology areas that are visited by smiling officials on a regular basis to let them know the limitations of such existence.

I obviously can't say exactly when this banking holiday will happen, but I think it is safe to say it is going to happen sometime in the next 18 months for sure, and possibly a LOT sooner than that. They simply cannot keep pretending things are okay for much longer. Anyone who isn't a Prepper yet, there is still time as long as the stores are open and your debit/credit card still works. Lay low, don't brag about supplies, and stockpile simple foodstuffs for the time when your family needs to hunker down.

What do you guys think? I have spent my life as an Eschatological High Priest, studying and preparing for the inevitable Crash of our soft Western Civilization. We have lived the easiest life of any Humans in our History, but that ride is about to come grinding to a halt. How do you think the United States (and the rest of the World) will handle the 'adjustment' that is in the mail?
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Cool story bruh...
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lol...those silly Canadians
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Re: The Trigger has been pulled, the Crash has begun. How are things going to play out? My take...
oh not again, i'm getting fed up with this shit, same old bones year in year out, there is gonna be no doom, trust me i've seen all this shit before. just enjoy life and you'll be happier instead of worrying about all this bollox. the elite won't allow this chaos you describe to happen, cause they have to live in this world too. there will be some rough rides, surely, but nothing doom.
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Re: The Trigger has been pulled, the Crash has begun. How are things going to play out? My take...
again, good logic.

but you have learned nothing from history, have you?

study what actually happens in civil war, world war, hyperinflation...

your so called 'successful people' ARE VERY GOOD AT UNDERSTANDING A NICHE. They understand their little world that makes them money and they do well.

WHEN THE APPLE CART GETS TURNED OVER...THEIR SPECIALITY IS DESTROYED...and ...they get lost in the malee ...

don't think so? then you don't know history
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Ummm.... and what do you think happens to those who were previously poor? They ARE the "melee"!!
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again, good logic.

but you have learned nothing from history, have you?

study what actually happens in civil war, world war, hyperinflation...

your so called 'successful people' ARE VERY GOOD AT UNDERSTANDING A NICHE. They understand their little world that makes them money and they do well.

WHEN THE APPLE CART GETS TURNED OVER...THEIR SPECIALITY IS DESTROYED...and ...they get lost in the malee ...

don't think so? then you don't know history
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Ummm.... and what do you think happens to those who were previously po or? They ARE the "melee"!!
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Furthermore, "niches" will always exist. People who were once good at identifying a niche, will remain good at identifying a niche. Successful people redisccover success.
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This is the kind of thing that would start the "ball rolling"... Pandemic.

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I just remembered the japanese people sitting in line to get one piece of vegetable each after the Tsunami event.


Something really powerful calmed their spirits.
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^^THIS^^ I think it will start off with us having a "natural disaster" (or disaster in effect)


cause and effect
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We have obviously crossed the threshold folks, things are falling apart by the day and the game of Kick the Can has at long last gone as far as it can. The rest of the World no longer has a choice, the United States is no longer the big bully on the playground who won WWII and their fingers are no longer so firmly around the throat of the planet. The long lunatic nightmare of Bernanke monetary ponzi schemes cannot continue.

It will be interesting to see what their plan is to try and switch the U.S. (and possibly the World) to a new currency system. My take?

There will be an immediate bank holiday across the board, stopping all transactions of any kind in all avenues of banking and stock markets. This will likely happen on a Friday afternoon, and there will be no warning. A temporary state of martial law will be instituted, in which people are told to basically stay at home as though they are taking a sudden 'cheap holiday' and things like trucking of supplies of normal groceries and the like will be the only thing still going on under strict military rules, keeping all emergency supplies of diesel available to those lines of credit used for that infrastructure. Military escorts of supply convoys will be the only thing moving on U.S. highways for perhaps several weeks until they restart the engine under the new rules. Police in all cities will be given total freedom to 'shoot first, ask questions later' for any deviation from total movement restriction of citizens. Examples will be made, and the media will carpet bomb the public with this message.

The U.S. will lock down the dollar (both digital and paper) to a complicated SDR basket of currencies around the World, the Canadian dollar will figure heavily in this. This will obviously include devaluation across the board of many world currencies, and some of the currencies (like our Canadian dollar) will also be strictly controlled during this time (wanna know why we care so much? 90% of our economy is still directly tied to you Yanks) The U.N. and IMF will be token heads of an emergency council that all countries of the World will have no choice but to agree to (barring a few examples in the Middle East and North Korea, Cuba, a few South American countries, etc).

Debt restructuring will be performed from top to bottom. The 1.4 Quadrillion derivatives bubble will pop like the veritable tree falling in the forest that no-one hears. The wage structure of the entire United States will be chopped off at the knees when jobs are 'started' again, and people are going to learn rather bluntly that their standard of living is going to drop by a large margin. Even when financial markets are loosened on the leash enough to make it look like things are 'running', foodstuffs and all energy (gas, diesel, natural gas, propane, etc) will be price controlled from that point on. This could be seen as an enforced Socialist military junta rule, which it is, but honestly there really is no choice.

Production of goods will continue by force if necessary, people will clamor to the new low wage positions because they won't have a choice. It is either that or starve.

Inner cities could collapse entirely during the transition period, the military in all forms will setup blockades around zones in these areas and food rations will be handed over in exchange for firearms and ammunition. It doesn't even bear mentioning the horrors that await some areas during this period. Within two weeks of supply infrastructure collapse things like rape, murder, and cannibalism will be commonplace. People are exactly three square meals away from becoming savages, it is as simple as that. In San Fransisco there are 17,500 people per square mile, I won't go into lurid details but let's just say there will be shoot-outs in the local 7/11 for the last bag of Doritos a lot sooner than most people think.

Slowly but surely 'zones' will form, protected areas where people are moved (perhaps forcibly) and live under what seems like a fairly free system but is obviously locked down military camps. Again, is this a bad thing? They aren't necessarily trying to clamp down control, they have known for many decades the collapse would happen under a fiat currency system and have planned accordingly.

There will be a lot of hardship, a lot of deaths, in a lot of areas of the World and United States things will collapse into 'One Second After' conditions where attrition will reduce population drastically over the next several years. The media will cover some of this, but not the true horrors, and it goes without saying that 'the revolution will not be televised'. This means that the Internet will no longer be free, and when and if an 'Internet' is brought back up and running it will be the government sanctioned AOL style system with no freedom of any kind. There will be no anonymous communication, any Internet Service Providers will be under total government control and it will be technically impossible to transmit encrypted packets. As a result communication can be controlled, and when it gets to that point a smattering of free Ham Radio will be the only true source of freedom.

There will be pockets of resistance, even entire States that balk at the new way of things, at first they will be treated with hands off respect but in time they will be forced with simple supply blockades to conform to the new rules. They have the technology, and the patience, and the means to cut off outside supply. There will obviously be a lot of 'free people' out there, entire communities where they are self sufficient in every way - but these will be small Colonial technology areas that are visited by smiling officials on a regular basis to let them know the limitations of such existence.

I obviously can't say exactly when this banking holiday will happen, but I think it is safe to say it is going to happen sometime in the next 18 months for sure, and possibly a LOT sooner than that. They simply cannot keep pretending things are okay for much longer. Anyone who isn't a Prepper yet, there is still time as long as the stores are open and your debit/credit card still works. Lay low, don't brag about supplies, and stockpile simple foodstuffs for the time when your family needs to hunker down.

What do you guys think? I have spent my life as an Eschatological High Priest, studying and preparing for the inevitable Crash of our soft Western Civilization. We have lived the easiest life of any Humans in our History, but that ride is about to come grinding to a halt. How do you think the United States (and the rest of the World) will handle the 'adjustment' that is in the mail?
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thank you for this perspective of what we are all (mostly) participating in - what it boils down to, from my perspective is "sheep in the chute" ... but we are not sheep, and I have every reason to believe that - hungry or not, most Americans will not assist the "government" to enslave its population ... at first they will go along with "enforcing the law" because they believe that it is for "the greater good" but once it gets to door to door searches, and shooting their neighbors - American soldiers and enforcement agents, will go home to protect their own families from being subject to "home invasion"

perhaps my faith in my fellowman is delusional but I believe that at our core, we all want the same thing - personal sovereignty ... so even if it is all hype/psy-ops - if you are prepared to be Independent - you win , just hunker down, be a invisible as possible and wait it out because you are not going to stop them from seizing what they want - they don't want to have to deal with you - so stay out of sight.
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I have bolded the part of your post that sat me upright in my chair: This type of thinking is what got 6 million jews killed in Europe in the '30's & '40s'. "It can't happen here. This thinking is just too preposterous. No one would do something like that here!"

They have done it before, they plan on doing it again!

All for power.
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we are not the same people as our Grand parents ... Humanity's Consciousness has evolve A GREAT DEAL since the 1930s - and that is the folly that the elite has based their models upon to predict their success ...

once Americans get off their drugs, and there is no TV to distract them - they will learn to be independent or live out their days in slavery - you always have a choice - there were plenty of people who continued their daily lives, in the midst of WWII that didn't join the Nazi or go to prison camps ... probably the majority of the citizens

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