The Trigger has been pulled, the Crash has begun. How are things going to play out? My take... | |
| American Sith: Darth Shillerus User ID: 30587851 02/22/2013 01:54 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember watching one of the "prepper" shows, where the guy bought booze! Lots and lots of vodka - I think it was - so that he could use it as a barter item. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25676821 I'm thinking bartering becomes valuable, rather than coins, in the short term. And what prevents some paramilitary unit showing up and taking it all for nothing? Nothing. One man can do nothing against a larger group of men which are better prepared to take whatever they want Why do the lot of you assume that there will be any law n order remaining when things crash? There's barely any now, and I dont think it will get any better when the popo are no longer getting paid, or are getting paid to be someones private militia. No, not for nothing. We prep cause we want to HOPE we can survive. That we can provide some semblance of hope for our family, for our future. We prep because we know that if we go outside our doors during a military action we WILL be sent to a camp, everything we own taken away. Does that mean I will be able to fend off an attach by some paramilitary unit showing up at my door? I'm hoping they don't know I HAVE anything to take, and pass me by! Also, I have done other "smart" things, like moving to a small county, away from a large city, and know my neighbors well enough to HOPE they don't kill me for my little bit of food (that they don't know I have, btw). And NO ONE is assuming there will be any law and order remaining! We're all just hoping we can remain silent, invisible, and self-sustaining long enough for order to be restored in the crazy world around us. No, you prep because youre a frightened pussy afraid to defend your rights, You prep to hide, to run away, to squeeze your eyes shut until the boogie man goes away, youre a self centered tard hoping against hope that someone else will save you from the bully youre afraid to say 'no' to. You prep because you hand over your lunch money, and hope the bully forgets about you while beating up someone else. Dont delude yourself, you prep because you lost Spoken from an AC Green Beret, Ninja, Commando, right? Tell us some of your horseshit Iraq stories and how you 'fought for our freedom' and we are 'cowards' for prepping. I love you assholes. "You're losing yer freedoms." No, most real preppers are people with patriotism and commonsense, so shut your fuckin' yap. "I'm a badass cowboy livin' on the west side---me and Artimus Clyde Frog gonna save Selma Hyak from a big metal spider." Satis Eloquentiae, Sapientiae Parum.... "It tells me, goose stepping morons like yourself should try reading books instead of burning them!" Henry Jones, JR. "Last Crusade." The CIA didn't kill Kennedy, a pissed off mob boss did! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9107938 02/22/2013 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What would you do? Sell home and be debt free with cash on hand or stay in home and continue to struggle with payments. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34923012 It is too late for them to engineer a 'soft landing'. There is no point in trying to pay off personal debt anymore, the time has come to quietly stock your basement to the rafters with canned goods and the means to protect your stuff. If you live in an area where there is no chance of you being safe in a Crash, find relatives in a safer area and have plans on hand to pile in the car and go there with your last couple of tanks of gas. When you dont pay your mortgage, they will take your house. They wont care if the economy tanked and the dollar is worthless. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1310640 02/22/2013 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just remembered the japanese people sitting in line to get one piece of vegetable each after the Tsunami event. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34941504 Something really powerful calmed their spirits. ^^THIS^^ I think it will start off with us having a "natural disaster" (or disaster in effect) cause and effect What do you think would happen if the same catastrophe happened not in Japan but in LA, Detroit or Chicago? It's not nature, it's the culture. The Japanese believe in their nation, Americans believe in nothing but themselves, and were trained to do so by others that only believe in themselves and discard all others |
| 535 User ID: 32458908 02/22/2013 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just remembered the japanese people sitting in line to get one piece of vegetable each after the Tsunami event. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34941504 Something really powerful calmed their spirits. ^^THIS^^ I think it will start off with us having a "natural disaster" (or disaster in effect) cause and effect This is only part of the equation. Modern life has been purposefully guided in a direction where each individual is served via technology. Most have self-guided into such a servitude, but others have refused in the realm of social engineering. Once these supports of modern technology that give industrialized countries food, power, heating, cooling, clean water, and entertainment are removed simultaneously - the people will clamor and beg for control. This control will be be merciless, exactly as the people will clamor for. You will become your own jailer and wish for more as the screws of the society tighten your life. Natural disasters, financial collapse, military actions (both internal and external to your country of origin), and pandemics will all combine at the same time. The old world will burn in nuclear fire and a new one will rise up to take its place. The new world will bring the order which the people have demanded. It will be glorious! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1310640 02/22/2013 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What would you do? Sell home and be debt free with cash on hand or stay in home and continue to struggle with payments. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34923012 It is too late for them to engineer a 'soft landing'. There is no point in trying to pay off personal debt anymore, the time has come to quietly stock your basement to the rafters with canned goods and the means to protect your stuff. If you live in an area where there is no chance of you being safe in a Crash, find relatives in a safer area and have plans on hand to pile in the car and go there with your last couple of tanks of gas. When you dont pay your mortgage, they will take your house. They wont care if the economy tanked and the dollar is worthless. That's the final common pathway, one dollar short or one dollar late, it's no longer yours, none of it. The legal system sucks you in, strips off your flesh and spits your bones out They can make you delinquent and demand any payment in full and make sure you dont have it. |
| Dr. Lecter User ID: 34834122 02/22/2013 02:04 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent thread! 5*'s and green thumbs to you OP. So far I have read many interesting theories, but it seems the one thing that the vast majority of us can agree on is that it IS coming... and fairly soon. I too am study of eschatology, beginning with William Cooper back in the early 90's, when I read "Behold A Pale Horse". That's when I discovered the prophecies of the Hopi, the Navajo, Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, The Bible and The Koran, etc.. etc... etc. When one lays out the predicted events of all the various prophets and prophecies in a flow chart, they appear to mesh almost perfectly together. I believe Obama and the U.S. government is "Mabus" or the Antichrist, and America is Babylon. I also believe that there will not be one lone event that triggers the collapse, but rather a series of smaller events that will escalate. Events that we are seeing now. I believe that North Korea will play a big role in it, but not as big a role as Obama. It's going to be a long, hot summer... but certainly not a boring one. Last Edited by R.P. McMurphy on 02/22/2013 02:06 PM Liberal Logic: Demanding that the government stay out of your bedroom while insisting they pay for your birth control and abortions. The only way we will win, is by being more passionate about defending our liberties, than the other side is about taking them away. |
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| Professor Xavier User ID: 34955824 02/22/2013 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent thread! 5*'s and green thumbs to you OP. Quoting: Dr. Lecter So far I have read many interesting theories, but it seems the one thing that the vast majority of us can agree on is that it IS coming... and fairly soon. I too am study of eschatology, beginning with William Cooper back in the early 90's, when I read "Behold A Pale Horse". That's when I discovered the prophecies of the Hopi, the Navajo, Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, The Bible and The Koran, etc.. etc... etc. When one lays out the predicted events of all the various prophets and prophecies in a flow chart, they appear to mesh almost perfectly together. I believe Obama and the U.S. government is "Mabus" or the Antichrist, and America is Babylon. I also believe that there will not be one lone event that triggers the collapse, but rather a series of smaller events that will escalate. Events that we are seeing now. I believe that North Korea will play a big role in it, but not as big a role as Obama. It's going to be a long, hot summer... but certainly not a boring one. ![]() |
| Northman User ID: 1133838 02/22/2013 02:07 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The USD is protected by control of 2/3 of the worlds exploitable resources, the worlds most powerful military, the most advanced technology in history (in ALL fields,) and aranautical capability that's so advanced that most of the worlds population believes it's aliens from outer space. Also bear in mind that even when the country is in 2/3 drought it can outgrow any other country in the world. I could go on and on about why you're wrong but people want to believe DOOM instead of facts. Also, in closing, remember that though we have poor people and some financial turmoil, we are still the wealthiest per capita nation on the planet. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30075865 02/22/2013 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember watching one of the "prepper" shows, where the guy bought booze! Lots and lots of vodka - I think it was - so that he could use it as a barter item. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25676821 I'm thinking bartering becomes valuable, rather than coins, in the short term. And what prevents some paramilitary unit showing up and taking it all for nothing? Nothing. One man can do nothing against a larger group of men which are better prepared to take whatever they want Why do the lot of you assume that there will be any law n order remaining when things crash? There's barely any now, and I dont think it will get any better when the popo are no longer getting paid, or are getting paid to be someones private militia. No, not for nothing. We prep cause we want to HOPE we can survive. That we can provide some semblance of hope for our family, for our future. We prep because we know that if we go outside our doors during a military action we WILL be sent to a camp, everything we own taken away. Does that mean I will be able to fend off an attach by some paramilitary unit showing up at my door? I'm hoping they don't know I HAVE anything to take, and pass me by! Also, I have done other "smart" things, like moving to a small county, away from a large city, and know my neighbors well enough to HOPE they don't kill me for my little bit of food (that they don't know I have, btw). And NO ONE is assuming there will be any law and order remaining! We're all just hoping we can remain silent, invisible, and self-sustaining long enough for order to be restored in the crazy world around us. No, you prep because youre a frightened pussy afraid to defend your rights, You prep to hide, to run away, to squeeze your eyes shut until the boogie man goes away, youre a self centered tard hoping against hope that someone else will save you from the bully youre afraid to say 'no' to. You prep because you hand over your lunch money, and hope the bully forgets about you while beating up someone else. Dont delude yourself, you prep because you lost Please explain to the forum just how YOU are defending any of your rights? Also please explain to the forum just how the poster your referring to, lost?? I sincerely doubt that you can articulate to the forum the answers to the questions I posed! Now FUCK OFF SHILL....... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1310640 02/22/2013 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640 And what prevents some paramilitary unit showing up and taking it all for nothing? Nothing. One man can do nothing against a larger group of men which are better prepared to take whatever they want Why do the lot of you assume that there will be any law n order remaining when things crash? There's barely any now, and I dont think it will get any better when the popo are no longer getting paid, or are getting paid to be someones private militia. No, not for nothing. We prep cause we want to HOPE we can survive. That we can provide some semblance of hope for our family, for our future. We prep because we know that if we go outside our doors during a military action we WILL be sent to a camp, everything we own taken away. Does that mean I will be able to fend off an attach by some paramilitary unit showing up at my door? I'm hoping they don't know I HAVE anything to take, and pass me by! Also, I have done other "smart" things, like moving to a small county, away from a large city, and know my neighbors well enough to HOPE they don't kill me for my little bit of food (that they don't know I have, btw). And NO ONE is assuming there will be any law and order remaining! We're all just hoping we can remain silent, invisible, and self-sustaining long enough for order to be restored in the crazy world around us. No, you prep because youre a frightened pussy afraid to defend your rights, You prep to hide, to run away, to squeeze your eyes shut until the boogie man goes away, youre a self centered tard hoping against hope that someone else will save you from the bully youre afraid to say 'no' to. You prep because you hand over your lunch money, and hope the bully forgets about you while beating up someone else. Dont delude yourself, you prep because you lost Please explain to the forum just how YOU are defending any of your rights? Also please explain to the forum just how the poster your referring to, lost?? I sincerely doubt that you can articulate to the forum the answers to the questions I posed! Now FUCK OFF SHILL....... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ok, Heres my deal: Respectfully... Fuck you, nobody wins anything by running away from the fight. Nobody wins by running and hiding while letting the opposition take everything for free. Nobody has, and nobody will. This is about cowardice, about being bitch loser. You will never have more power to win than you have right fking now, and doing nothing while preparing to hide is not what you do to win, ever. I reiterate F Y |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9107938 02/22/2013 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The USD is protected by control of 2/3 of the worlds Quoting: Northman exploitable resources, the worlds most powerful military, the most advanced technology in history (in ALL fields,) and aranautical capability that's so advanced that most of the worlds population believes it's aliens from outer space. Also bear in mind that even when the country is in 2/3 drought it can outgrow any other country in the world. I could go on and on about why you're wrong but people want to believe DOOM instead of facts. Also, in closing, remember that though we have poor people and some financial turmoil, we are still the wealthiest per capita nation on the planet. You are very confused. |
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| Professor Xavier User ID: 34957919 02/22/2013 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The USD is protected by control of 2/3 of the worlds Quoting: Northman exploitable resources, the worlds most powerful military, the most advanced technology in history (in ALL fields,) and aranautical capability that's so advanced that most of the worlds population believes it's aliens from outer space. Also bear in mind that even when the country is in 2/3 drought it can outgrow any other country in the world. I could go on and on about why you're wrong but people want to believe DOOM instead of facts. Also, in closing, remember that though we have poor people and some financial turmoil, we are still the wealthiest per capita nation on the planet. We're also under control of an entire cadre of traitors. All those resources mean nothing if the command structure is dedicated to treason. ![]() |
| moses767 User ID: 19613320 02/22/2013 03:15 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dear Eschatological High Priest!! I have been a End-Time Bible preaching man of God for 38 years now. And I have been expecting the antichrist to take over the world for all of those years. And you are totally right; and those in the know are preparing to hunker down and watch Americans and the rest of the world suffer the great consequences of being robbed and stolen from by them. They have an evil superiority complex and they think that they are gods and they are ruling because God wants them to rule. And most of them know that they are serving Lucifer or Satan (who is one and the same evil fallen angel)and Lucifer has showed them how to rule the world by murder and great genocides and world wars and capturing all the wealth of the whole world. And Satan has convinced them that this will go on forever. But because of their great pride and avaraciousness; they think that they will rule the world as gods; while only 2 billion to 500 million are left to be their slaves and serfs. But it won't happen like that. After they have killed most of Gods people who wouldn't take their zombie making and mind controlling, mark of the beast chip in their foreheads or right hands; the Great God of Heaven will pour down His mighty book of Revelation plagues upon them for 42 months of hell on the Earth. And their trillions of dollars of stolen loot will not be able to save them. And they will have no remedy for Gods great plagues. And they will suffer immensely; until they know that they are being defeated by the Almighty. But it will be too late and Gods mighty angelic forces from heaven along with Jesus Christ Himself; shall defeat them in hours; and have them all before His Fathers great white throne for the Great Judgment Day. And then they will be judged from the beginning of time, from Cain, until the last wicked murderer and evil genocidal monster. Where they will be thrown into the great lake of fire and brimstone; where they will be swimming in it forever and ever and ever. While we that serve and know Jesus Christ will live like gods and goddesses, on the renovated and beautified Earth!!! |
| peacetard User ID: 34882907 02/22/2013 03:16 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My idea is I have no fucken idea! I will do what needs to be done on instinct because I have no clue what will be the first thing to go wrong to start the ball rolling. Too many variables in the equation. I know one thing I have no fear of any of it. I am ready for it all with or without prepping. this too shall pass |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25020314 02/22/2013 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25676821 No, not for nothing. We prep cause we want to HOPE we can survive. That we can provide some semblance of hope for our family, for our future. We prep because we know that if we go outside our doors during a military action we WILL be sent to a camp, everything we own taken away. Does that mean I will be able to fend off an attach by some paramilitary unit showing up at my door? I'm hoping they don't know I HAVE anything to take, and pass me by! Also, I have done other "smart" things, like moving to a small county, away from a large city, and know my neighbors well enough to HOPE they don't kill me for my little bit of food (that they don't know I have, btw). And NO ONE is assuming there will be any law and order remaining! We're all just hoping we can remain silent, invisible, and self-sustaining long enough for order to be restored in the crazy world around us. No, you prep because youre a frightened pussy afraid to defend your rights, You prep to hide, to run away, to squeeze your eyes shut until the boogie man goes away, youre a self centered tard hoping against hope that someone else will save you from the bully youre afraid to say 'no' to. You prep because you hand over your lunch money, and hope the bully forgets about you while beating up someone else. Dont delude yourself, you prep because you lost Please explain to the forum just how YOU are defending any of your rights? Also please explain to the forum just how the poster your referring to, lost?? I sincerely doubt that you can articulate to the forum the answers to the questions I posed! Now FUCK OFF SHILL....... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ok, Heres my deal: Respectfully... Fuck you, nobody wins anything by running away from the fight. Nobody wins by running and hiding while letting the opposition take everything for free. Nobody has, and nobody will. This is about cowardice, about being bitch loser. You will never have more power to win than you have right fking now, and doing nothing while preparing to hide is not what you do to win, ever. I reiterate F Y AC1310640 I have read every one of your posts on this thread and I just wanted to ask you a question. Where do you get the impression that "preppers" are people who just sit around hoarding their preps and wait for doom and are NOT successful in the here and now financial climate? I believe more people than not ,on this thread, are NOT poor people on welfare or minimum wage employees. Most of us are very successful people who have the money and time to prep and gain skills we believe will be much needed in the coming times. We DO KNOW HOW to navigate the current financial climate to our benefit. This is how we create our "niche" in the coming future and will "hopefully" become successful and live (and thrive) as best we can. Just wondering where you're coming from.... |
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| Dinkytuff User ID: 32340317 02/22/2013 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are just too many groups here and governments around the world who want and are working toward this for it not to happen. And I think there are so many Americans who will stupidly go along, even help it, because they believe America needs to suffer. They will gladly sacrifice themselves, their children ,so they can gleefully and orgasmically live in squalor to please king Obama. Liberals have the masses convinced that the Big Daddy government will turn America into one big ole hippie commune where every one lives together with long flowing hair, blank smiling faces, and no one knows whose the father of their children. Unfortunately by the time they figure out Big Daddy's more Charles Manson than Jesus Christ itll be too late. The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants. Albert Camus It only stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there's service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master. Ayn Rand The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in times of great moral crises maintain their neutrality Dante |
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| smokahontas User ID: 1026958 02/22/2013 05:22 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with your take very much. Add on, Opening of FEMA camps to feed, and house those who cannot sustain, Offering cable and internet, Prescriptions Filled and it will be a line to get in like black Friday. "I may not agree with what you say, but I would defend to the death your right to say it." Voltaire "Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34610595 02/22/2013 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Preppers can really be divided into two categories. There's the ones with chemical suits and bunkers. Then there's the ones who keep a few months of food stuck back and some water and toilet paper. I fall into the latter group. There is no downside to this strategy. Whether the world fails or not this strategy is a winner. Keeping several months of staple food that you actually eat provides a hedge not just against epic doom, but the much more likely dull boring doom that hits millions every year. Lost income or expensive car repairs can be made up for by dipping into the supply cabinet. Then there is the money saved. When you go grocery shopping you can focus more on what is on sale rather than what you need since you are already well stocked. Food inflation is another reason to buy now. You won't save but a few dollars, but why not. I'm not going to criticize the other kind of prepper. There is good reason to think that they may be the smart ones. On the other hand they may end up spending their money, life, and energy preparing for something that never comes. To each his/her own. I'll say this though. If you don't have pounds of dried beans and/or dozens of cans of food and a few gallons of water stuck back somewhere then you really are an idiot. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1215825 02/22/2013 10:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The funny thing about a lot of you, all "prepared" with your preps, is that you are so impotent in the current world that you are desperate for a crash as the OP suggested. You falsely believe that when the SHTF you're the only ones who will be prepared to deal with it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33331142 You need to realize that your preps makes no statement whatsoever about your ability to handle a disaster but instead makes a statement about how incapable you are right now. I suggest you learn how to manage today much better than you are right now. The future will take care of itself. I take exception to your comments. I have a successful law practice. When the economy tanked, I gave up my home and all debt, and I bought a sailboat. So it is possible that those of us who are "prepping" are totally capable at managing our lives while we wait for the collapse. |
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