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Easy Homebrew for When the SHTF or During Hard Times

 
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If your still worried about getting alcoholic drinks things are not that bad yet. When things get really bad all you will concern yourself with is how much food you can grow.
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With a comment like that you must be a teetotaler.
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Where do you get Malt Syrup from in SHTF scenario?
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I don't think even one of your claims as to uses in 'hard times' is accurate...just sayin'


This sounds like one evolutionary step above the paint huffers...but if we're all gonna die any way...drinkspeace
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buimp for later
Adversity is inevitable, misery is optional.

Do or do not. There is no try.

"The enemy will never attack where you are strongest...He will attack where you are weakest. If you do not know your weakest point, be certain, your enemy will." Sun Tzu
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Why argue about who's shooting who.

None of us can accurately predict what the future will bring. However, it's safe to say that those who are informed will have a better life than those who are not.

Only a retard would assume that a person with *knowledge* of home-brewing would immediately become falling-down-drunk. Said retard would likely meet his end quickly if he assumed that his home-brewing neighbors didn't have .50s, too.

Thanks OP.
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Where do you get Malt Syrup from in SHTF scenario?
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You need to get it now and store it with your dry goods. It keeps forever.

1 can is all you need per 5 gal batch.
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I don't think even one of your claims as to uses in 'hard times' is accurate...just sayin'


This sounds like one evolutionary step above the paint huffers...but if we're all gonna die any way...drinkspeace
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Another teetotaler!! churchlady
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Why argue about who's shooting who.

None of us can accurately predict what the future will bring. However, it's safe to say that those who are informed will have a better life than those who are not.

Only a retard would assume that a person with *knowledge* of home-brewing would immediately become falling-down-drunk. Said retard would likely meet his end quickly if he assumed that his home-brewing neighbors didn't have .50s, too.

Thanks OP.
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No problem. I appreciate your comments.

The people who are protesting homebrewing based on thinking it means getting drunk all the time just don't get it.
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Don't get me wrong, there are FAR better tasting recipes out there.

This recipe is the one my dad taught me and his dad taught him. They used to make it back on the farm when my dad was a boy.

It's simple to make and is composed of easily-obtainable, easily-storeable ingredients. In a POST-SHTF situation, you and your neighbors would be glad to have it.

Like I said, this isn't the best tasting brew and it won't impress the connoisseurs out there. It tastes something like Old Milwaukee.

Materials:

5 gal bucket
Towel
String

Ingredients:

1 can of malt syrup
1 5 lb bag of sugar
3 packets of yeast
5 gallons of warm water

Combine all ingredients into the 5 gal bucket and stir well. Try to get as much of the sugar and malt to dissolve as possible.

Cover the bucket with the towel and wrap a string around it to hold it on. This keeps the bugs out.

Put the bucket in a warm place. Right in your house is fine. You want it to stay about room temperature.

Leave it alone for 2 weeks.

After 2 weeks, take the towel off and you will see that the brew is foamy and smells like beer/bread. Stir it well and try to get everything that didn't dissolve before to dissolve this time. Cover it back up with the towel.

Leave it alone for 2 weeks.

After these two weeks, the brew is technically ready to drink but you'll probably want to further refine it. Here's how:

Filter the brew through the finest cloth you have. It will still be cloudy. That's fine.

Put the brew in sealed airtight containers (Mason jars are best). Leave for another week or two. This carbonates the brew and clears it up to some extent. Don't bother the containers of beer during this time. You'll see that whatever yeast remains will settle to the bottom in a thin white layer and the rest will be golden and clear.

After you've let your containers carbonate and settle, then they're ready to enjoy.

When you get to the bottom of the jar, just be careful not to stir up the thin white layer. But even if you do, it's fine.

A little bit of tweaking in your future batches will eliminate the sediment.

***ETA***

To clear up a little confusion:

1. You obviously can't add exactly 5 gal of water to the bucket. Just add your other ingredients first and then add warm water up to about an inch or two from the top (to allow some room for foaming). Then cover with the towel and tie it off.

2. Homebrew is not hard liquor. It's beer (or technically "malt liquor" in this case). It has about 6% alcohol give or take. I am judging that by my countless hours of drinking everything from light beers (4.5%) to malt liquors (6%) to high-gravity lagers (8-8.5%). So I haven't tested it scientifically.

3. This recipe calls for plain old bread yeast (like Fleishman's or similar). You don't need brewer's yeast. You might have a better product with brewer's yeast though. I don't know.

4. For the asswipes claiming that homebrew has no use in a "hard times" situation, consider the following:

Beer is nutritious and has lots of calories.

It gives you something clean to drink.

It gives you morale after working your fingers to the bone all day.

It helps relieve pain.

It helps you bond with your neighbors.

It's a good item to trade or use as a gift.

It helps promote human reproduction.

IT'S NOT ABOUT GETTING "DRUNK". But it can be nice to have that option when it's time to celebrate.
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Nice!

A few drops of hop-oil would work wonders for this recipe!

cheers
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I'm not big of home brewed beers but it isn't too hard to harden cider. I've fortified it with yeast and sugar/honey/brown sugar with great results. You can use a balloon and pin hole for a poor man's air lock. Keep in mind, you can also "distill" by freezing if you would like something stronger like apple jack.....
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If you leave a beer out for a cpl days, all the alcohol evaporates out of it.

Wouldnt an uncovered method like this see most if not all of the alcohol evaporate out of it?
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Why argue about who's shooting who.

None of us can accurately predict what the future will bring. However, it's safe to say that those who are informed will have a better life than those who are not.

Only a retard would assume that a person with *knowledge* of home-brewing would immediately become falling-down-drunk. Said retard would likely meet his end quickly if he assumed that his home-brewing neighbors didn't have .50s, too.

Thanks OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3617873


No problem. I appreciate your comments.

The people who are protesting homebrewing based on thinking it means getting drunk all the time just don't get it.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


That is how teetotalers think. They think that drinking beer, good beer, is all about getting drunk all of the time. Beer can be medicine, beer can be food, especially when TSHTF.

"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" - Benjamin Franklin hf
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If you leave a beer out for a cpl days, all the alcohol evaporates out of it.

Wouldnt an uncovered method like this see most if not all of the alcohol evaporate out of it?
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No. The alcohol is mixed with the water in a homogeneous mixture and therefore the actual surface area of the alcohol is greatly reduced.

It's just like letting mash ferment for moonshine. It doesn't have to be sealed.
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Your .50 calibre doesn't scare me a fucking bit.
 Quoting: Waterbug

Like he could even see you through the trees from 50 yards away.
 Quoting: MHz


It's amazing to me the number of keyboard warriors who have not a clue.
If TSHTF the world will not be a safe place for anyone.
What makes them think they will be able to prey on the innocent, indefinitely?
Sooner or later, they will run into the wrong person, and that will be that.

I've been shot at before while inadvertently straying onto
private property while hunting.
I've had a shotgun stuck in my face when I walked into in a convenience store robbery.
I've been shot by a stupid hunter who thought I looked like a turkey.
Been sprayed with birdshot by dove hunters.

I'm still here.
 Quoting: Waterbug


hehe, your country has to be very dangerous my friend. I've never seen a gun and here you are getting shot twice and were threatened once.

No wonder you now decided to get rid of guns in the US :)
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4. For the asswipes claiming that homebrew has no use in a "hard times" situation, consider the following:


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it could be used as barter or trade
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4. For the asswipes claiming that homebrew has no use in a "hard times" situation, consider the following:


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it could be used as barter or trade
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Absolutely. Or a gift. Making friends in hard times is a valuable thing to do!
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If you leave a beer out for a cpl days, all the alcohol evaporates out of it.

Wouldnt an uncovered method like this see most if not all of the alcohol evaporate out of it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34464973


It is the fermentation process that creates the alcohol, yeast eating sugar. After the fermentation is complete, it needs to be covered.
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If you leave a beer out for a cpl days, all the alcohol evaporates out of it.

Wouldnt an uncovered method like this see most if not all of the alcohol evaporate out of it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34464973


No. The alcohol is mixed with the water in a homogeneous mixture and therefore the actual surface area of the alcohol is greatly reduced.

It's just like letting mash ferment for moonshine. It doesn't have to be sealed.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


I just called my uncle who is makes moonshine, cider, and beer in between building nascars and hunting lions...

It doesnt matter if its a homogenous solution. The alcohol evaporates out of a water solution much much faster than the water evaporates.

With an airlock, you would have a higher % of alcohol. An airlock will keep the air above the liquid saturated with alcohol vapor, which will drastically reduce alcohol evaporation at room temp.

A better small setup would be to use two-liter bottles or something similar with a small top, and put a ballon and rubber band over it with a pin prick hole in the rubber band.
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I don't think even one of your claims as to uses in 'hard times' is accurate...just sayin'


This sounds like one evolutionary step above the paint huffers...but if we're all gonna die any way...drinkspeace
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Another teetotaler!! churchlady
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hey he stated himself, this stuff tastes like shit...leads to the conclusion one is drinking solely for the buzz...not saying there's anything wrong with that, just say it how it is...you people with the need to dress shit up...:rollseyes:
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I don't think even one of your claims as to uses in 'hard times' is accurate...just sayin'


This sounds like one evolutionary step above the paint huffers...but if we're all gonna die any way...drinkspeace
 Quoting: exiled1


Another teetotaler!! churchlady
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


hey he stated himself, this stuff tastes like shit...leads to the conclusion one is drinking solely for the buzz...not saying there's anything wrong with that, just say it how it is...you people with the need to dress shit up...rollseyes
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It doesn't taste like shit and I never said it did. What I said is that it won't impress the connesseurs and microbrew gourmets. It is a light tasting beer along the lines of Old Milwaukee which is pretty good considering how easy it is to make.
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Fetch me a Flagen of mead wench
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Mead (honey wine) isn't any harder to make than beer. It just takes a lot of honey.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


takes a longer time to ferment too, don't it?
 Quoting: hapless moran


It takes about the same time to ferment, but it takes a lot longer aging period to taste good. esp if made during warm weather. something about high temps makes it take a lot longer for the diesel taste to go a way. mine tastes really good after about 6 mos if made in winter, sometimes up to 10 if made in summer.

When you cant find syrup or white sugar, mead's the way to go cause you will still be able to find honey, unless fucking Monsanto, Dow and Bayer manage to finish killing off all the bees before SHTF.

Here's the no-fuss, no-equipment, low-tech way to get started. I highly recommend the Lalvin D-47 yeast over Fleishmans though, if you can get it. Stock up.

[link to www.stormthecastle.com]

Tip - Go take the intro beekeeping course at your local agricultural extension agency NOW. They teach them this time of year. Go ahead & get a smoker & a veil & some gloves, and some woodenware. Get on the wait list for some bees in March/April when they start selling bee packages. Get 2 in case one suffers colony collapse. I only got 1 last spring and was sorry, when they didn't make it. Will be getting 2 this year.

Also - never ever get greedy and take all your bee's honey. Always save some to feed them during the last part of the winter & the summer dearth. Very important not to let them starve. Esp with climate change and the weather being so variable. Is actually best to only take what's left in the hive in the spring, once the spring nectar flow starts, so you can be sure they won't starve.
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If you leave a beer out for a cpl days, all the alcohol evaporates out of it.

Wouldnt an uncovered method like this see most if not all of the alcohol evaporate out of it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34464973


No. The alcohol is mixed with the water in a homogeneous mixture and therefore the actual surface area of the alcohol is greatly reduced.

It's just like letting mash ferment for moonshine. It doesn't have to be sealed.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


I just called my uncle who is makes moonshine, cider, and beer in between building nascars and hunting lions...

It doesnt matter if its a homogenous solution. The alcohol evaporates out of a water solution much much faster than the water evaporates.

With an airlock, you would have a higher % of alcohol. An airlock will keep the air above the liquid saturated with alcohol vapor, which will drastically reduce alcohol evaporation at room temp.

A better small setup would be to use two-liter bottles or something similar with a small top, and put a ballon and rubber band over it with a pin prick hole in the rubber band.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34464973


I'm sure what you're saying is true but I've never had a problem with it. The brew comes out around 6% or a little higher. That's plenty, IMHO.

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I've been shot by a stupid hunter who thought I looked like a turkey.
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How is Mr. Cheney doing?

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A better small setup would be to use two-liter bottles or something similar with a small top, and put a ballon and rubber band over it with a pin prick hole in the rubber band.
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How about this product?

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This post should be re-pinned. Great post and no bs anywhere to be seen. Bit of a rarity for GLP. I'm pretty new to homebrew I've got to pretty good lagers under my belt and now I'm brewing a Stout using my own recipe. One thing I can say about homebrew that you will notice straight away is the quality of the drink. No chemical non stop pissen bloating shite in these drinks. Anyone needing advice on setting up a CHEAP small brew kit (40pts) can get hold of me on FB for advice ( Neil Goodwin GBS ).

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If you leave a beer out for a cpl days, all the alcohol evaporates out of it.

Wouldnt an uncovered method like this see most if not all of the alcohol evaporate out of it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34464973


No. The alcohol is mixed with the water in a homogeneous mixture and therefore the actual surface area of the alcohol is greatly reduced.

It's just like letting mash ferment for moonshine. It doesn't have to be sealed.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


I just called my uncle who is makes moonshine, cider, and beer in between building nascars and hunting lions...

It doesnt matter if its a homogenous solution. The alcohol evaporates out of a water solution much much faster than the water evaporates.

With an airlock, you would have a higher % of alcohol. An airlock will keep the air above the liquid saturated with alcohol vapor, which will drastically reduce alcohol evaporation at room temp.

A better small setup would be to use two-liter bottles or something similar with a small top, and put a ballon and rubber band over it with a pin prick hole in the rubber band.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34464973


I'm sure what you're saying is true but I've never had a problem with it. The brew comes out around 6% or a little higher. That's plenty, IMHO.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


correction: I meant pin prick hole in teh ballon, not rubber band

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I've been home brewing beer for 20 years, its a great way to spend a few hours in the kitchen drinking beer :)

The recipe is a solid basic beer recipe.

If you want to up your game, skip the sugar and double the malt, and get a good brewers yeast.

Check out this form:
[link to www.homebrewtalk.com]

The beginners section is great, people are generally friendly to any question.

For brewing supplies I use:
[link to www.austinhomebrew.com]

There are many online homebrew supply shops - this one has flat rate shipping (important for those 50 pound bags of grain), and competitive prices.

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I've been home brewing beer for 20 years, its a great way to spend a few hours in the kitchen drinking beer :)

The recipe is a solid basic beer recipe.

If you want to up your game, skip the sugar and double the malt, and get a good brewers yeast.

Check out this form:
[link to www.homebrewtalk.com]

The beginners section is great, people are generally friendly to any question.

For brewing supplies I use:
[link to www.austinhomebrew.com]

There are many online homebrew supply shops - this one has flat rate shipping (important for those 50 pound bags of grain), and competitive prices.

drunk
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Austinhomebrew also offers more recipe kits and clone kits than just about any other supplier I've found. I've brewed several of their extract kits and they're always good.
free your inner baboon.
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I've been home brewing beer for 20 years, its a great way to spend a few hours in the kitchen drinking beer :)

The recipe is a solid basic beer recipe.

If you want to up your game, skip the sugar and double the malt, and get a good brewers yeast.

Check out this form:
[link to www.homebrewtalk.com]

The beginners section is great, people are generally friendly to any question.

For brewing supplies I use:
[link to www.austinhomebrew.com]

There are many online homebrew supply shops - this one has flat rate shipping (important for those 50 pound bags of grain), and competitive prices.

drunk
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Maybe you can help answer an earlier question if you don't mind. Earlier a guy asked why the alcohol doesn't evaporate out while the beer is fermenting in the bucket. I'm sure some does evaporate out but the resulting brew is still about 6% after two weeks.

Can you answer that?
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I've been home brewing beer for 20 years, its a great way to spend a few hours in the kitchen drinking beer :)

The recipe is a solid basic beer recipe.

If you want to up your game, skip the sugar and double the malt, and get a good brewers yeast.

Check out this form:
[link to www.homebrewtalk.com]

The beginners section is great, people are generally friendly to any question.

For brewing supplies I use:
[link to www.austinhomebrew.com]

There are many online homebrew supply shops - this one has flat rate shipping (important for those 50 pound bags of grain), and competitive prices.

drunk
 Quoting: Lemon


Maybe you can help answer an earlier question if you don't mind. Earlier a guy asked why the alcohol doesn't evaporate out while the beer is fermenting in the bucket. I'm sure some does evaporate out but the resulting brew is still about 6% after two weeks.

Can you answer that?
 Quoting: simultaneous_final



I would recommend using a closed fermenter with an airlock.

In an open fermentation, you get a layer of CO2 blanketing the beer - this should protect the young beer.

The main reason for the closed fermenter is to prevent wild yeast form entering and altering the flavor.

The alcohol has a much lower boiling point than the rest of the liquid, this is how stills work.

To your question,(my guess) I don't think you would have much evaporation at room temperature in two weeks, and evaporation into the dry air would take all liquids (beer), unless you approach the boiling point of alcohol (or people would not need stills with eight foot chimneys to distill.
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