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Easy Homebrew for When the SHTF or During Hard Times

 
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I've been home brewing beer for 20 years, its a great way to spend a few hours in the kitchen drinking beer :)

The recipe is a solid basic beer recipe.

If you want to up your game, skip the sugar and double the malt, and get a good brewers yeast.

Check out this form:
[link to www.homebrewtalk.com]

The beginners section is great, people are generally friendly to any question.

For brewing supplies I use:
[link to www.austinhomebrew.com]

There are many online homebrew supply shops - this one has flat rate shipping (important for those 50 pound bags of grain), and competitive prices.

drunk
 Quoting: Lemon


Maybe you can help answer an earlier question if you don't mind. Earlier a guy asked why the alcohol doesn't evaporate out while the beer is fermenting in the bucket. I'm sure some does evaporate out but the resulting brew is still about 6% after two weeks.

Can you answer that?
 Quoting: simultaneous_final



I would recommend using a closed fermenter with an airlock.

In an open fermentation, you get a layer of CO2 blanketing the beer - this should protect the young beer.

The main reason for the closed fermenter is to prevent wild yeast form entering and altering the flavor.

The alcohol has a much lower boiling point than the rest of the liquid, this is how stills work.

To your question,(my guess) I don't think you would have much evaporation at room temperature in two weeks, and evaporation into the dry air would take all liquids (beer), unless you approach the boiling point of alcohol (or people would not need stills with eight foot chimneys to distill.
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Thanks, man. I appreciate the info.
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Your .50 calibre doesn't scare me a fucking bit.
 Quoting: Waterbug

Like he could even see you through the trees from 50 yards away.
 Quoting: MHz


It's amazing to me the number of keyboard warriors who have not a clue.
If TSHTF the world will not be a safe place for anyone.
What makes them think they will be able to prey on the innocent, indefinitely?
Sooner or later, they will run into the wrong person, and that will be that.

I've been shot at before while inadvertently straying onto
private property while hunting.
I've had a shotgun stuck in my face when I walked into in a convenience store robbery.
I've been shot by a stupid hunter who thought I looked like a turkey.
Been sprayed with birdshot by dove hunters.

I'm still here.
 Quoting: Waterbug


hehe, your country has to be very dangerous my friend. I've never seen a gun and here you are getting shot twice and were threatened once.

No wonder you now decided to get rid of guns in the US :)
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Price of admission.
Car crashes happen, too.. but I'm still driving.

Only the tards want to get rid of guns.
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I've been shot by a stupid hunter who thought I looked like a turkey.
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How is Mr. Cheney doing?
 Quoting: MHz


chuckle He missed me the first time..

You'd be surprised at how many hunters get shot while turkey hunting.
Here in Tennessee, we hunt in camo with no blaze during turkey season.
The newbs get excited.
It happened on a game reserve.. too many people.
I don't hunt them anymore.

I look nothing like a turkey.

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if you can get your hand on some hops post-shtf, boil em up in there for 45-60 minutes...if you can replace most of the table sugar with more malt syrup/extract, do it - 5lbs. of sugar in a 5 gallon batch will probably end up tasting pretty fowl to most people...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34126874


The table sugar seems to be what gives this recipe that light "Old Milwaukee" flavor. It's not bad.

But I agree with what you say. For the recipe's sake (along with simplicity), 1 big can of malt syrup per batch is OK. It would probably be good to replace some of that table sugar with brown sugar or molasses. I might try that sometime.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


I am allergic to grains, so I would need to substitute molasses for the malt syrup. How much would I need? I don't know how much a "can of malt syrup" holds.

Also....I looked and couldn't find out...is malt made from barley? Sorry, city gal, I guess.

Thanks in advance....very intrigued. I'm thinking molasses and organic sugar, and then I will serve it with paper umbrellas. LOL
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Where do you get Malt Syrup from in SHTF scenario?
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The cupboard, where you stored it when you bought it this week???

:-)
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if you can get your hand on some hops post-shtf, boil em up in there for 45-60 minutes...if you can replace most of the table sugar with more malt syrup/extract, do it - 5lbs. of sugar in a 5 gallon batch will probably end up tasting pretty fowl to most people...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34126874


The table sugar seems to be what gives this recipe that light "Old Milwaukee" flavor. It's not bad.

But I agree with what you say. For the recipe's sake (along with simplicity), 1 big can of malt syrup per batch is OK. It would probably be good to replace some of that table sugar with brown sugar or molasses. I might try that sometime.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


I am allergic to grains, so I would need to substitute molasses for the malt syrup. How much would I need? I don't know how much a "can of malt syrup" holds.

Also....I looked and couldn't find out...is malt made from barley? Sorry, city gal, I guess.

Thanks in advance....very intrigued. I'm thinking molasses and organic sugar, and then I will serve it with paper umbrellas. LOL
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It's a 16oz can. You could probably substitute molasses but I'm not sure it would taste like beer.
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if you can get your hand on some hops post-shtf, boil em up in there for 45-60 minutes...if you can replace most of the table sugar with more malt syrup/extract, do it - 5lbs. of sugar in a 5 gallon batch will probably end up tasting pretty fowl to most people...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34126874


The table sugar seems to be what gives this recipe that light "Old Milwaukee" flavor. It's not bad.

But I agree with what you say. For the recipe's sake (along with simplicity), 1 big can of malt syrup per batch is OK. It would probably be good to replace some of that table sugar with brown sugar or molasses. I might try that sometime.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


I am allergic to grains, so I would need to substitute molasses for the malt syrup. How much would I need? I don't know how much a "can of malt syrup" holds.

Also....I looked and couldn't find out...is malt made from barley? Sorry, city gal, I guess.

Thanks in advance....very intrigued. I'm thinking molasses and organic sugar, and then I will serve it with paper umbrellas. LOL
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Use five pounds of Honey. Best stuff you ever tasted (Mead)
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if you can get your hand on some hops post-shtf, boil em up in there for 45-60 minutes...if you can replace most of the table sugar with more malt syrup/extract, do it - 5lbs. of sugar in a 5 gallon batch will probably end up tasting pretty fowl to most people...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34126874


The table sugar seems to be what gives this recipe that light "Old Milwaukee" flavor. It's not bad.

But I agree with what you say. For the recipe's sake (along with simplicity), 1 big can of malt syrup per batch is OK. It would probably be good to replace some of that table sugar with brown sugar or molasses. I might try that sometime.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


I am allergic to grains, so I would need to substitute molasses for the malt syrup. How much would I need? I don't know how much a "can of malt syrup" holds.

Also....I looked and couldn't find out...is malt made from barley? Sorry, city gal, I guess.

Thanks in advance....very intrigued. I'm thinking molasses and organic sugar, and then I will serve it with paper umbrellas. LOL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33757397


It's a 16oz can. You could probably substitute molasses but I'm not sure it would taste like beer.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final

Thank you!
Someone else (Belgian?) mentioned the molasses and a flavoring to go with it.

If I can't drink the original recipe, due to grains allergy, then it will have to taste different. Who knows, I might like it. ;-D
Thanks for your reply.
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if you can get your hand on some hops post-shtf, boil em up in there for 45-60 minutes...if you can replace most of the table sugar with more malt syrup/extract, do it - 5lbs. of sugar in a 5 gallon batch will probably end up tasting pretty fowl to most people...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34126874


The table sugar seems to be what gives this recipe that light "Old Milwaukee" flavor. It's not bad.

But I agree with what you say. For the recipe's sake (along with simplicity), 1 big can of malt syrup per batch is OK. It would probably be good to replace some of that table sugar with brown sugar or molasses. I might try that sometime.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


I am allergic to grains, so I would need to substitute molasses for the malt syrup. How much would I need? I don't know how much a "can of malt syrup" holds.

Also....I looked and couldn't find out...is malt made from barley? Sorry, city gal, I guess.

Thanks in advance....very intrigued. I'm thinking molasses and organic sugar, and then I will serve it with paper umbrellas. LOL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33757397

Use five pounds of Honey. Best stuff you ever tasted (Mead)
 Quoting: Lemon


Yes, this sounds good, too, but it would be expensive for the honey and I would probably rather just eat it. It does sound really good, though. ;-D
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The table sugar seems to be what gives this recipe that light "Old Milwaukee" flavor. It's not bad.

But I agree with what you say. For the recipe's sake (along with simplicity), 1 big can of malt syrup per batch is OK. It would probably be good to replace some of that table sugar with brown sugar or molasses. I might try that sometime.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


I am allergic to grains, so I would need to substitute molasses for the malt syrup. How much would I need? I don't know how much a "can of malt syrup" holds.

Also....I looked and couldn't find out...is malt made from barley? Sorry, city gal, I guess.

Thanks in advance....very intrigued. I'm thinking molasses and organic sugar, and then I will serve it with paper umbrellas. LOL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33757397

Use five pounds of Honey. Best stuff you ever tasted (Mead)
 Quoting: Lemon


Yes, this sounds good, too, but it would be expensive for the honey and I would probably rather just eat it. It does sound really good, though. ;-D
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Could sorghum work?
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Where do you get Malt Syrup from in SHTF scenario?
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Hi Tandym,

You can make malt syrup. This thread got me to go research it. The first bit of good info came from wiki. I'm typing from my phone so I can't do links for you.

Just think of the other stuff you can make or flavor with malt... Drinks, candy and even mix dried malt with powered milk for making some malted milk balls. Yum.
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I am allergic to grains, so I would need to substitute molasses for the malt syrup. How much would I need? I don't know how much a "can of malt syrup" holds.

Also....I looked and couldn't find out...is malt made from barley? Sorry, city gal, I guess.

Thanks in advance....very intrigued. I'm thinking molasses and organic sugar, and then I will serve it with paper umbrellas. LOL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33757397

Use five pounds of Honey. Best stuff you ever tasted (Mead)
 Quoting: Lemon


Yes, this sounds good, too, but it would be expensive for the honey and I would probably rather just eat it. It does sound really good, though. ;-D
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33757397
Could sorghum work?
 Quoting: silvervega 14673627

3.3 lb Sorghum syrup
.5 lb Rice syrup solids
1 oz cascade hops 5 min into boil
1 oz cascade hops 15 min into boil
1 oz cascade hops 2 min before the end of the 60 min boil.

OG = 1.064
FG = 1.012

A nice 8% delightful brew

I fermented for 13 days, and now I'm bottle conditioning ( so fare 2 days in). I carbed some with tabs and some with maple syrup.

I tried one last night just to see what it tasted like, and it was surprisingly pleasant tasting for being so young - The only thing is (and this may not be a bad thing) it tasted more like wine than beer. It had a very distict dry wine taste. This is the first time I have ever used rice syrup solids, and my question is - is that why it tastes like wine, did I make a sorghum saki on accident? Thanks in advance for your responses

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I've been shot by a stupid hunter who thought I looked like a turkey.
 Quoting: Waterbug

How is Mr. Cheney doing?
 Quoting: MHz


chuckle He missed me the first time..

You'd be surprised at how many hunters get shot while turkey hunting.
Here in Tennessee, we hunt in camo with no blaze during turkey season.
The newbs get excited.
It happened on a game reserve.. too many people.
I don't hunt them anymore.

I look nothing like a turkey.
 Quoting: Waterbug

Bird-shot just bounces off that material doesn't it? (at almost any distance other than 'point blank' for a shotgun)

Prairie chickens could be netted if you wear that, otherwise a .22 works fine. I pack a camera these days. The deli has lots of cooked chicken already.

I suppose the stepping on the wings and pulling on the feet real hard is not the way to clean them.

Only ever shot one hunting partner, doc gave me shit said I shouldn't have gutted and cleaned him before coming for help.

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LoL, ya, go ahead and get drunk, and be completly worthless to yourself and families survival.

I am so glad I don't drink or do drugs, that way I can easily take your shit when the time comes. Survival of the fittest, and being drunk is about the stupidest thing to do in a SHTF scenario. Be warned.
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Oh blow it out your ass.. I drank Bourbon during firefights.. Im here those fuckers aint!

Get a god damn grip.. no ones talking puking passing out drunk you asshole.

And don't try to deny you are a fucking asshole.. only a fucking asshole would be roaming around trying to steal other peoples shit.

You won't last long doin that.. promise.

Now get the fuck out of here you scumbag thief.
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Word! Thanks for the simple recipe!

Sorghum is a good alternative to barley to make it gluten free.

I'm spoiled with Heady Topper right now, but when TSHTF, it sure doesn't hurt to be the guy in town supplying beer. In the olden days, brewers were just a step below royalty; every town needed one to survive.
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LoL, ya, go ahead and get drunk, and be completly worthless to yourself and families survival.

I am so glad I don't drink or do drugs, that way I can easily take your shit when the time comes. Survival of the fittest, and being drunk is about the stupidest thing to do in a SHTF scenario. Be warned.
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Oh blow it out your ass.. I drank Bourbon during firefights.. Im here those fuckers aint!

Get a god damn grip.. no ones talking puking passing out drunk you asshole.

And don't try to deny you are a fucking asshole.. only a fucking asshole would be roaming around trying to steal other peoples shit.

You won't last long doin that.. promise.

Now get the fuck out of here you scumbag thief.
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He's gonna get you from a mile and a half with his .50cal.
Sniper.

Been watching too much TV, I think.

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Poor craig...somebody will shoot him and steal all his beer kegs when the apocalypse comes.
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Or turn him into a beer-making slave.
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Use five pounds of Honey. Best stuff you ever tasted (Mead)
 Quoting: Lemon


Yes, this sounds good, too, but it would be expensive for the honey and I would probably rather just eat it. It does sound really good, though. ;-D
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33757397
Could sorghum work?
 Quoting: silvervega 14673627

3.3 lb Sorghum syrup
.5 lb Rice syrup solids
1 oz cascade hops 5 min into boil
1 oz cascade hops 15 min into boil
1 oz cascade hops 2 min before the end of the 60 min boil.

OG = 1.064
FG = 1.012

A nice 8% delightful brew

I fermented for 13 days, and now I'm bottle conditioning ( so fare 2 days in). I carbed some with tabs and some with maple syrup.

I tried one last night just to see what it tasted like, and it was surprisingly pleasant tasting for being so young - The only thing is (and this may not be a bad thing) it tasted more like wine than beer. It had a very distict dry wine taste. This is the first time I have ever used rice syrup solids, and my question is - is that why it tastes like wine, did I make a sorghum saki on accident? Thanks in advance for your responses

[link to www.homebrewtalk.com]
 Quoting: Lemon

Why did you even make that? There's not any barley malt!
I'm not suprised that it tastes like shit.
Wild Weasels? You've got to be shitting me!
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You should use that corpse water from the hotel water tank.

It'd be like a Lambic beer I bet.
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Yes, this sounds good, too, but it would be expensive for the honey and I would probably rather just eat it. It does sound really good, though. ;-D
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33757397
Could sorghum work?
 Quoting: silvervega 14673627

3.3 lb Sorghum syrup
.5 lb Rice syrup solids
1 oz cascade hops 5 min into boil
1 oz cascade hops 15 min into boil
1 oz cascade hops 2 min before the end of the 60 min boil.

OG = 1.064
FG = 1.012

A nice 8% delightful brew

I fermented for 13 days, and now I'm bottle conditioning ( so fare 2 days in). I carbed some with tabs and some with maple syrup.

I tried one last night just to see what it tasted like, and it was surprisingly pleasant tasting for being so young - The only thing is (and this may not be a bad thing) it tasted more like wine than beer. It had a very distict dry wine taste. This is the first time I have ever used rice syrup solids, and my question is - is that why it tastes like wine, did I make a sorghum saki on accident? Thanks in advance for your responses

[link to www.homebrewtalk.com]
 Quoting: Lemon

Why did you even make that? There's not any barley malt!
I'm not suprised that it tastes like shit.
 Quoting: Weasel Keeper


It's gluten free. (& as you said - beer free...)
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bump

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OK did not find Malt Syrup at Walmart...bought only thing I could find...malt vinegar...will this work? If not suggestions on where to find this ingredient easily? Bought some quick instant barley to add as well...now to also find some hops locally and might be set for the easy homebrew method...and btw thanks for the post :)
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I imagine you could tweak this recipe too, add some apples or something...

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OK did not find Malt Syrup at Walmart...bought only thing I could find...malt vinegar...will this work? If not suggestions on where to find this ingredient easily? Bought some quick instant barley to add as well...now to also find some hops locally and might be set for the easy homebrew method...and btw thanks for the post :)
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Malt vinegar????1rof1wall
The best malt syrup for your money is at Williams brewers supply, and beer brewing supplies at E.C. Krause, for the last 10 years this is where I go to.drunk
Wild Weasels? You've got to be shitting me!
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OK did not find Malt Syrup at Walmart...bought only thing I could find...malt vinegar...will this work? If not suggestions on where to find this ingredient easily? Bought some quick instant barley to add as well...now to also find some hops locally and might be set for the easy homebrew method...and btw thanks for the post :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34631200


look here:
[link to www.austinhomebrew.com]

The malt syrup is basically a sugar. You are fermenting sugars into alcohol.

The instant barley needs to be "Mashed" - basically make a large tea bag and let it soak at 150 - 160 degrees Fahrenheit for an hour.

hops adds bitterness, aroma, and is a preservative.
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