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Artaius San User ID: 34935540 Germany 02/22/2013 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My father had 5 of 6 some years ago. There are people who always win somehow and others don´t. That pattern got me interested, just out of curiosity ;) My grandfather of the same name swore that he discovered a pattern within the lottery system. Would tell anyone who would listen about it. He hit it a couple of time too but nothing too substantial. Quoting: BOWMAN ------ There will come a time when you believe everything ends. This will be the beginning [Louis L'Amour] ~ A r c t u r u s |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11223140 United States 02/22/2013 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My father had 5 of 6 some years ago. Quoting: Artaius San There are people who always win somehow and others don´t. That pattern got me interested, just out of curiosity ;) My grandfather of the same name swore that he discovered a pattern within the lottery system. Would tell anyone who would listen about it. He hit it a couple of time too but nothing too substantial. Quoting: BOWMAN ------ I was too young to remember exactly what he was saying because he never addressed me directly about it. All I remember is him saying certain numbers would come up so on the next play you would do a 'skipping' sequence around certain repetitive numbers. ------ |
Gratia Plena User ID: 1220977 United States 02/22/2013 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not mathematically smart enough to identify any patterns. But when I start daydreaming about winning the lottery, I think of what it would be like seeing the winning numbers be 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. It would be so unlikely and so crazy. And then I remind myself that the odds of me having the matching numbers on my ticket, no matter how random the numbers seem, have the same odds of coming up as 1,2,3,4,5,6. I do admit I play maybe 2 or 3 times a year though (I pay my poor tax as we call it), just for a little daydreaming. |
BadMoonRising User ID: 4583236 United Kingdom 02/22/2013 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not mathematically smart enough to identify any patterns. But when I start daydreaming about winning the lottery, I think of what it would be like seeing the winning numbers be 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. It would be so unlikely and so crazy. And then I remind myself that the odds of me having the matching numbers on my ticket, no matter how random the numbers seem, have the same odds of coming up as 1,2,3,4,5,6. I do admit I play maybe 2 or 3 times a year though (I pay my poor tax as we call it), just for a little daydreaming. Quoting: Gratia Plena I read that here in the UK, if that sequence 1,2,3,4,5,6 ever came up, winners would only get a few thousand each as so many people have them every week. Maybe they can't count beyond 6? |
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BadMoonRising User ID: 4583236 United Kingdom 02/22/2013 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you have to do is buy another ticket and you cut your odds in half! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1321411 I don't think so. It will then be 2 out of 75,000,000, which is not the same as 1 out of 37,500,000. I mean I'm no math expert so I could be wrong. No it won't It'll be exactly the same. You could buy a million tickets and the odds on each would still be 75000000 to one. Granted, you'll get a lot more little wins but the only way to increase your odds is to cover the same numbers in a permatation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16439676 United States 02/22/2013 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you have to do is buy another ticket and you cut your odds in half! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1321411 I don't think so. It will then be 2 out of 75,000,000, which is not the same as 1 out of 37,500,000. I mean I'm no math expert so I could be wrong. No it won't It'll be exactly the same. You could buy a million tickets and the odds on each would still be 75000000 to one. Granted, you'll get a lot more little wins but the only way to increase your odds is to cover the same numbers in a permatation. No. Unless you 2 tickets with the same numbers the odds of winning would now be 2 out of 75,000,000. If you bought 75,000,000 tickets, then the odds would be 75,000,000 out of 75,000,000 which equal 100%. So if the odds of winning changes from having 1 ticket and having 75,000,000 tickets, then you can't say that any number in between would give you the same chances as only buying 1 ticket. |
BadMoonRising User ID: 4583236 United Kingdom 02/22/2013 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you have to do is buy another ticket and you cut your odds in half! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1321411 I don't think so. It will then be 2 out of 75,000,000, which is not the same as 1 out of 37,500,000. I mean I'm no math expert so I could be wrong. No it won't It'll be exactly the same. You could buy a million tickets and the odds on each would still be 75000000 to one. Granted, you'll get a lot more little wins but the only way to increase your odds is to cover the same numbers in a permatation. No. Unless you 2 tickets with the same numbers the odds of winning would now be 2 out of 75,000,000. If you bought 75,000,000 tickets, then the odds would be 75,000,000 out of 75,000,000 which equal 100%. So if the odds of winning changes from having 1 ticket and having 75,000,000 tickets, then you can't say that any number in between would give you the same chances as only buying 1 ticket. Sorry but you are wrong. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16439676 United States 02/22/2013 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16439676 I don't think so. It will then be 2 out of 75,000,000, which is not the same as 1 out of 37,500,000. I mean I'm no math expert so I could be wrong. No it won't It'll be exactly the same. You could buy a million tickets and the odds on each would still be 75000000 to one. Granted, you'll get a lot more little wins but the only way to increase your odds is to cover the same numbers in a permatation. No. Unless you 2 tickets with the same numbers the odds of winning would now be 2 out of 75,000,000. If you bought 75,000,000 tickets, then the odds would be 75,000,000 out of 75,000,000 which equal 100%. So if the odds of winning changes from having 1 ticket and having 75,000,000 tickets, then you can't say that any number in between would give you the same chances as only buying 1 ticket. Sorry but you are wrong. I'm trying hard to see it your way, but can't. If the lottery only had two number, 1 and 2 and you only had to pick one number when you play, then if you bought one ticket then you have 1 out of 2 chances of winning right? Which equals 50% And if you bought 2 tickets with the other number, then you would have 2 out of 2 chances of winning, which equals 100%. So the same logic applies if instead 2 different possible outcome you have 75,000,000. We're not talking about the odds of each ticket because it doesn't change for each individual ticket, we're talking about the odds of a person having a winning ticket. Can somebody else verify this? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1514619 United States 02/22/2013 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | each time i see people buying loto tickets i feel like their paying taxes Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34947156 what pisses me off is those people that buy like 100 tickets and you have to wait in line for this bull shit Yeah, "wait in line". Please. The lotto machines here can print a 10 line ticket in literally one second. You'd be waiting an addition 10 seconds at best. GTFO. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16439676 United States 02/22/2013 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | each time i see people buying loto tickets i feel like their paying taxes Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34947156 what pisses me off is those people that buy like 100 tickets and you have to wait in line for this bull shit Yeah, "wait in line". Please. The lotto machines here can print a 10 line ticket in literally one second. You'd be waiting an addition 10 seconds at best. GTFO. I used to work in checks cashing place. It does slow down the line. The easiest was when a person filled out their card and handed it to us. That was rare, but even when a customer filled one out, the printing did slow things down. But the worst was when they played numbers, it was usually a lot and we had to punch them in manually. The lottery was the biggest line slow down, and it made things more stressful. |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 02/22/2013 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the odds are 75-80 million to one. Take a penny lay it down. Stack more on top. When your stack is about a mile high, pick one. That's your odds of winning. Quoting: indiandave I think they would fall over before you got them that high... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34948592 United Kingdom 02/22/2013 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you have to do is buy another ticket and you cut your odds in half! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1321411 I don't think so. It will then be 2 out of 75,000,000, which is not the same as 1 out of 37,500,000. I mean I'm no math expert so I could be wrong. No it won't It'll be exactly the same. You could buy a million tickets and the odds on each would still be 75000000 to one. Granted, you'll get a lot more little wins but the only way to increase your odds is to cover the same numbers in a permatation. yep it's the only way, but it's funny how the big winners are always fuckers who buy ONE lucky fucking dip |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28254655 Canada 02/22/2013 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a pattern. Randomness. The numbers are always random. So they are never nonrandom etc. Simple. Something that's always random is predictable due to its constant randomness. But since the computer has taken over it's like the voting machines, who knows what's going on in there. It's like online poker, same thing. The computer knows the score in real time. Knows what cards everyone has, the lotto computer knows what numbers were picked, it knows what combination pays what in real time. You don't even see balls drop on tv any more. The computer controls all and like poker it's calculating as well as printing out tickets. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34948592 United Kingdom 02/22/2013 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a pattern. Randomness. The numbers are always random. So they are never nonrandom etc. Simple. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28254655 Something that's always random is predictable due to its constant randomness. But since the computer has taken over it's like the voting machines, who knows what's going on in there. It's like online poker, same thing. The computer knows the score in real time. Knows what cards everyone has, the lotto computer knows what numbers were picked, it knows what combination pays what in real time. You don't even see balls drop on tv any more. The computer controls all and like poker it's calculating as well as printing out tickets. but you CAN really say that a few things most probably will never happen, or hardly ever for instance, all even or all odd numbers. very rare. yes, they do happen, but when considering what numbers to put on, how many lines does ruling them out take out? It must be millions. also, 4, 5 and 6 consecutive. hardly ever to NEVER. even if 4 do come out, it isn't worth factoring in to the equation at all. also, 4, 5 and 6 end numbers all the same, ie 09,19,29,39,49, again, you can realistically rule them out imho what is left? in my opinion under half of the combinations. Still next to impossible to figure out, of course, but the total odds are not the true odds. you can cut them by a third to a half. the problem I have with the lottery is I am convinced it is fixed. For instance, my small town here, has over 35000 residents, who probably, between them, do about 10000-20000 tickets a week the lottery has been running now for just over 18 years. a total of 1791 draws have been made. when you divide the odds of 14 million (and that is taking into account the highly unlikely combinations above) by 1791, you get 7816, which means, basically, if you put 7816 tickets on every week, sometime in that 18+ year period, you should hit the jackpot. my town have put two to three times that amount on, every week, and NO-ONE has won the jackpot here, and no-one in the other towns that surround us. something about that doesn't sit right with me. it MUST be fixed. btw.. Something that's always random is predictable due to its constant randomness. nice call. |