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BREAKING: Thousands May Have Been Exposed to Deadly TB Epidemic in Downtown Los Angeles

 
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One more reason I'm glad I don't live in Los Angeles.
 Quoting: Pure of Heart


Indeed.

Fortunately no Americans remain in LA.
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


Hey Walkers Everywhere/Comedian....are you still trolling for young guys on here? Whatever happened to your roommate? Been in jail lately?
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No bacteria is generally drug resistant, a bacteria can be resistant to certain drugs, such as certain types of antibiotics, but not resistant to everything in general - or else it would not be a bacteria.

Many things could help, how about:

- body's own immune system
- antibiotics
- counter bacteria
- salvia
- thyme
- honey
- cannabis
- heat/fever

?
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LAM-ELISA was another test.

[link to phys.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12509109


seriously,
where are this girl's parents?
i'd be freaking out if i were one of them.
this isn't a typical suicide,
nor is it a "regular homicide".
i'm pretty surprized the media isn't all over this.
this is "Black Dahlia" weird....

did this "Elisa Lam" really exist?
or is this all bs to put an infected "jane doe" in the water supply.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380705


I believe you're right, and the girl in the elevator video is probably someone else.
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TB was was almost eliminatedin the US. You can thank 100% the the turd world immigration over the last few decades for its resurgence.

Fucking Mexicans and southeast Asians brought it back with their filthy habits and poor hygiene

(Sorry about the truth there dolls)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34965334


tell me about it - 25 years ago I got Hep A, the health department in WA state told me that it was coming up from the south. They also said that I most likely got it from a salad bar.
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HOW DOES A BREAKOUT HAPPEN IN THE EPICENTER OF A VAST CITY, it doesn't just spontaneously generate in the middle of the hood, and its not like these people whoa re effected where traveling around to get it.
 Quoting: vind21


I thought that was weird, too. This is happening on Skid Row. If it's not a natural outbreak, then it's like they're trying to weed out the "undesirables" or something.
 Quoting: Pure of Heart


Tuberculosis has been wiped out in West Europe, but now more and more cases occur. It comes with the gypsies.

Romanian Gypsies: with high rates of tuberculosis
[link to www.accessmylibrary.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34936272


Yeah like no bugs come through the sub continent orNorthern Africa
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Tuberculosis is caused by bacteria that spread from person to person through microscopic droplets released into the air. This can happen when someone with the untreated, active form of tuberculosis coughs, speaks, sneezes, spits, laughs or sings.

Although tuberculosis is contagious, it's not easy to catch. You're much more likely to get tuberculosis from someone you live with or work with than from a stranger. Most people with active TB who've had appropriate drug treatment for at least two weeks are no longer contagious.

[link to www.mayoclinic.com]


Drug-resistant TB
Another reason tuberculosis remains a major killer is the increase in drug-resistant strains of the bacterium. Since the first antibiotics were used to fight tuberculosis 60 years ago, some TB germs have developed the ability to survive, and that ability gets passed on to their descendants.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34956621


That's a good thing assuming that we're dealing with regular TB and not a lab-created monster hybrid that makes it more contagious.
 Quoting: thinkingoutsidetherhombus


Well according to this story...
[link to losangeles.cbslocal.com]

The feds are descending on downtown Los Angeles to combat a dangerous outbreak of a drug-resistant strain of tuberculosis.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34956621


Sorry about that, I meant regular as having a level of contagiousness as the strains we've dealt with in the past. What I'm afraid of is that they've not only manufactured a drug-resistant strain, but they've also somehow made it more contagious and more likely to cause severe illness, even in people with healthy immune systems.
 Quoting: thinkingoutsidetherhombus



Oh really!!!! "They" don't have to bother "manufacturing", anything. If our overlords wanted us to all die all they have to do is stop making antibiotics and vaccines and Mother Nature can look after the manufacture of disease all by herself.

It really isn't that hard to understand, I know America s gret and all that but they aren't an all powerful God or something.
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TB was a really big deal ... they built sanitariums for people to live out the rest of their days without infecting other people.

Mexico has not been pro-active on controlling TB.. in earlier days all immigrants to the US had to have a health screening, I cannot get to a link now but I read somewhere that a big percentage of illegal Mexicans have TB or carry it. TB is very drug resistant and antibiotics don't always work... It costs $250,000 per person to treat and for the illegals, it's free.

Why do we just keep dancing like puppets to the leaders of Mexico. NO MORE ILLEGALS!
 Quoting: Peaceplz


Exactly,but hey insisting people come legally and be screened is racist now.
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Re: BREAKING: Thousands May Have Been Exposed to Deadly TB Epidemic in Downtown Los Angeles
maybe this isn't tb at all...

remember that rotting body in the water supply of that downtown la hotel? it was there for WEEKS! who knows who caught what from that...

a "bacterial infection" can totally be caught from injesting
decaying body parts.

in the middle ages they used to throw dead bodies over castle walls to infect and kill everyone inside.

this could be a new unknown plague and that's why the tb drugs aren't working.

hiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380705


I like how they said the water was perfectly okay after the girl was in the tank for two weeks:

[link to www.nbclosangeles.com]

If this is true, why did the hotel patrons who were first interviewed say that the water was coming out of the tap discolored, and that it tasted and smelled funny? If the chlorine was sufficient to kill the bacteria from the dead girl, wouldn't it smell like chlorine -- not dead girl?
 Quoting: Pure of Heart


Maybe somebody dosed her with a new potent version of TB then stuck her in the tank for the purpose of starting an outbreak
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I thought that was weird, too. This is happening on Skid Row. If it's not a natural outbreak, then it's like they're trying to weed out the "undesirables" or something.
 Quoting: Pure of Heart


A previous poster suggested the body found in the water tank at Cecil Hotel, the people who drank the water. If so was it intentional to cause an outbreak?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20115308


It's definitely worth thinking about, considering the types of people who usually frequented that hotel.
 Quoting: Pure of Heart


They are still people for God's sake !!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28472873


I didn't mean it that way. I meant it's worth considering the possibility that this was planned, not that I'm happy that it might have been. I don't want anyone to get sick :(
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Sorry about that, I meant regular as having a level of contagiousness as the strains we've dealt with in the past. What I'm afraid of is that they've not only manufactured a drug-resistant strain, but they've also somehow made it more contagious and more likely to cause severe illness, even in people with healthy immune systems.


The "they" you speak of are the people who had TB, were given an antibiotic regime and didn't follow through with it. These people are the labs that have manufactured the new strains of TB.
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HOW DOES A BREAKOUT HAPPEN IN THE EPICENTER OF A VAST CITY, it doesn't just spontaneously generate in the middle of the hood, and its not like these people whoa re effected where traveling around to get it.
 Quoting: vind21


I thought that was weird, too. This is happening on Skid Row. If it's not a natural outbreak, then it's like they're trying to weed out the "undesirables" or something.
 Quoting: Pure of Heart


A previous poster suggested the body found in the water tank at Cecil Hotel, the people who drank the water. If so was it intentional to cause an outbreak?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20115308


should have known someone would already have thought of that. beat me to it!
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i live 1 block from skid row, in downtown los angeles. this was on the news here, but the news reported that people were responding to antibiotics so i don't think it's the "untreatable" TB we've read about. i also watched police pull the girl from the water tank as i can see that from my window.
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Well I'll hate on LA. And that's saying something because I'm in Chicago! I LOATHE LA. And San Fran. I'm not bored enough to go into why although I will say this. When you visit a place and the nicest people are cab drivers, you know you are in a shithole.

As long as we don't control our borders, they will forever have strange and unusual bugs to menace us with.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31907650


What a loser. LA has some of the happiest, most laid-back, friendliest people I've seen. You must have a nasty disposition and look like Quasimoto
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A previous poster suggested the body found in the water tank at Cecil Hotel, the people who drank the water. If so was it intentional to cause an outbreak?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20115308


It's definitely worth thinking about, considering the types of people who usually frequented that hotel.
 Quoting: Pure of Heart


They are still people for God's sake !!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28472873


I didn't mean it that way. I meant it's worth considering the possibility that this was planned, not that I'm happy that it might have been. I don't want anyone to get sick :(
 Quoting: Pure of Heart

Sorry that I misread you friend, I am weary, worked with kids all day.
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Well I'll hate on LA. And that's saying something because I'm in Chicago! I LOATHE LA. And San Fran. I'm not bored enough to go into why although I will say this. When you visit a place and the nicest people are cab drivers, you know you are in a shithole.

As long as we don't control our borders, they will forever have strange and unusual bugs to menace us with.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31907650


yeah chicago is a beacon of happiness
[link to www.forbes.com]
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It's definitely worth thinking about, considering the types of people who usually frequented that hotel.
 Quoting: Pure of Heart


They are still people for God's sake !!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28472873


I didn't mean it that way. I meant it's worth considering the possibility that this was planned, not that I'm happy that it might have been. I don't want anyone to get sick :(
 Quoting: Pure of Heart

Sorry that I misread you friend, I am weary, worked with kids all day.
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It's okay :) This has definitely been a long week.
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It spreads like the flu - coughing, sneezing, sharing cups/utensils, and even if someone *laughs* near you. Apparently this particular strain is drug-resistant.
 Quoting: Pure of Heart


tb is a symptom of a bacterial lung infection.

you do not get tb unless you are already ill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34951009


This is very incorrect.

you DO NOT have to be sick to become infected with TB, you just need to breath in air droplets from a cough or sneeze of an infected person.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
 Quoting: KindaDistorted


Yes, they would like you to think that, but back in the 60s my mother had TB and was in the state hospital for a year and a half. They used to lock up TB patients in state hospitals back then. Google it.

My father would go visit her and for the most part would not follow their safety rules. He was exposed thru contact with my mom, and never came down with TB. Years later I found my mothers diary, and yes, they sneaked in what you might call some congical visits. He never got sick. All us kids never got sick.

So it depends a hell of a lot on what the status of your immune system is. If you're run down, have a poor diet, are stressed (i.e. homeless persons), then you have a much better chance of getting it.

That's not saying that healthy people won't get it. Just saying healthy people with good immune systems are less likely.
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Yeah just think good thoughts, breath fresh air and eat healthily ..... That should ensure your health.
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Scary. Let's hope they can do something to contain it, but chances are it's too late.

5 stars and a pin request.
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Scary?

You probably forget the last fabricated TB scare with the passenger on the airplane? He was supposed to infect us all and millions would die, according to the CDC.

Same with Avian Bird Flu, Mad Cow Disease, Marburg Disease, SARS, etc, etc.

How many time can you people be fooled? and SCARED?
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Hotel Cecil at 640 S. Main St. in L.A. where the body was found in the water tank, is approximately 3 blocks from the Skid Row hub in L.A. according to a Wiki map, which Skid Row is on the corner of 6th St. and San Pedro St.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

If you google the Hotel address you can do a comparison. Way too close for comfort.
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seems like this'll actually amount to something serious
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i live 1 block from skid row, in downtown los angeles. this was on the news here, but the news reported that people were responding to antibiotics so i don't think it's the "untreatable" TB we've read about. i also watched police pull the girl from the water tank as i can see that from my window.
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Where were you on January 31st?
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seems like this'll actually amount to something serious
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based on what

past history of the truthfullness of the media?

lol
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That's a good thing assuming that we're dealing with regular TB and not a lab-created monster hybrid that makes it more contagious.
 Quoting: thinkingoutsidetherhombus


Well according to this story...
[link to losangeles.cbslocal.com]

The feds are descending on downtown Los Angeles to combat a dangerous outbreak of a drug-resistant strain of tuberculosis.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34956621


Sorry about that, I meant regular as having a level of contagiousness as the strains we've dealt with in the past. What I'm afraid of is that they've not only manufactured a drug-resistant strain, but they've also somehow made it more contagious and more likely to cause severe illness, even in people with healthy immune systems.
 Quoting: thinkingoutsidetherhombus



Oh really!!!! "They" don't have to bother "manufacturing", anything. If our overlords wanted us to all die all they have to do is stop making antibiotics and vaccines and Mother Nature can look after the manufacture of disease all by herself.

It really isn't that hard to understand, I know America s gret and all that but they aren't an all powerful God or something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24909641


I was just giving a "what if" situation. Chill the fuck out.
I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain.
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Hotel Cecil at 640 S. Main St. in L.A. where the body was found in the water tank, is approximately 3 blocks from the Skid Row hub in L.A. according to a Wiki map, which Skid Row is on the corner of 6th St. and San Pedro St.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

If you google the Hotel address you can do a comparison. Way too close for comfort.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


yes. this is the heart of downtown.
hundreds of employees work at that hotel.
they could have easily and unknowingly spread contamination to family, friends, and the everyday people they pass by to and from work. the streets there are superbusy during the day with all kinds of people(rich and poor) passing each other in the streets, and hanging out in bars and resturants. downtown has gotten WAY busier than it was 10 years ago. it's the hip new place to live. 10 years ago it was practically empty.
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Well I'll hate on LA. And that's saying something because I'm in Chicago! I LOATHE LA. And San Fran. I'm not bored enough to go into why although I will say this. When you visit a place and the nicest people are cab drivers, you know you are in a shithole.

As long as we don't control our borders, they will forever have strange and unusual bugs to menace us with.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31907650


Lol, you're clueless, but I wouldn't expect less from someone in the shit hole Midwest. LA people are awesome, always positive, and always striving to progress in life. Midwest people take their 40k salary, fat wife, 8 kids, and live their lives just sitting around with nothing, pretending they have everything. No thanks.

I'll take LA Mexicans over all of the Albanians, Italians, and Macedonians that plague the Midwest. That place is a rolling sausage fest every where you go, because the foreigners all roll in packs of 20 dudes and start shit with everyone in their way. Mexicans stay the fuck away and cut our grass for cheap.
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The cecil hotel has 600-rooms. I might imagine the amount of people passing through that thing over two weeks.
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Was she died from the beginning?
Was it emptied and used as a soundproof torture-chamber?
Was this story released to overshadow the texas 322 hotel conspiracy?
Was she injected with something berry boisonous?
Was there are zombies now?
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Thread: Corpse found in L.A. hotel's water tank.......update history of Hotel (Page 5)

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LAM-ELISA was another test.

[link to phys.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12509109


seriously,
where are this girl's parents?
i'd be freaking out if i were one of them.
this isn't a typical suicide,
nor is it a "regular homicide".
i'm pretty surprized the media isn't all over this.
this is "Black Dahlia" weird....

did this "Elisa Lam" really exist?
or is this all bs to put an infected "jane doe" in the water supply.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380705


fyi....the black dahlia stayed at that hotel too back in the day. ELISAbeth Short.
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LAM-ELISA was another test.

[link to phys.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12509109


seriously,
where are this girl's parents?
i'd be freaking out if i were one of them.
this isn't a typical suicide,
nor is it a "regular homicide".
i'm pretty surprized the media isn't all over this.
this is "Black Dahlia" weird....

did this "Elisa Lam" really exist?
or is this all bs to put an infected "jane doe" in the water supply.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380705


fyi....the black dahlia stayed at that hotel too back in the day. ELISAbeth Short.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380705


It's EliZabeth.
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LAM-ELISA was another test.

[link to phys.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12509109


seriously,
where are this girl's parents?
i'd be freaking out if i were one of them.
this isn't a typical suicide,
nor is it a "regular homicide".
i'm pretty surprized the media isn't all over this.
this is "Black Dahlia" weird....

did this "Elisa Lam" really exist?
or is this all bs to put an infected "jane doe" in the water supply.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380705


fyi....the black dahlia stayed at that hotel too back in the day. ELISAbeth Short.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18380705


It's EliZabeth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34965105


In the movie Dark Water, characters in the movie are named Dahlia and CECILia, at the end a women ends up in the water tank of a Hotel.

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