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Resister User ID: 669410 United States 02/22/2013 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is fascinatingly disturbing is that brilliant people like Neil DeGrasse can invasion and embrace thoughts like that and at the same time spend their whole lives coming up with ever more complicated ways to deny that we could have been created on purpose by God. They can accept unfathomably intelligent beings, but they can't accept the concept of God. Sad. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20754036 New Zealand 02/22/2013 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But they cannot get around to God. Better to eulogize emphatic about atoms. One group talked about having a noble and honorable spirit: But a coalesence of forces from the east and west raped and murdered their way across Europe to bring us this: Those who can see can see. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1324238 United States 02/22/2013 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is fascinatingly disturbing is that brilliant people like Neil DeGrasse can invasion and embrace thoughts like that and at the same time spend their whole lives coming up with ever more complicated ways to deny that we could have been created on purpose by God. They can accept unfathomably intelligent beings, but they can't accept the concept of God. Sad. Quoting: Resister The man utilizes his cognitive functions. That's more than I can say for the average god-believer. |
Resister User ID: 669410 United States 02/22/2013 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is fascinatingly disturbing is that brilliant people like Neil DeGrasse can invasion and embrace thoughts like that and at the same time spend their whole lives coming up with ever more complicated ways to deny that we could have been created on purpose by God. They can accept unfathomably intelligent beings, but they can't accept the concept of God. Sad. Quoting: Resister The man utilizes his cognitive functions. That's more than I can say for the average god-believer. You completely missed Neil's point and mine as well. That cognitive power you are referring to would be nothing more than a chimp's mocking to another being just 1% more intelligent than ourselves. That’s what he said. He realizes that, but at the same time is agnostic and chooses not to care about the significance of it outside of keeping that next 1% level of intelligence in his little comparatively chimp-like non-God box. Science and faith don’t have to be mutual enemies. There is room enough to explore and attempt to explain the world we can see and have faith in the one we can not. Refusing to accept the possibility that there is something more than you can see in your limited capability is a limitation on your potential for growth both in knowledge and spirit. You don’t have to stay like the chimp. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34676322 Germany 02/22/2013 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is fascinatingly disturbing is that brilliant people like Neil DeGrasse can invasion and embrace thoughts like that and at the same time spend their whole lives coming up with ever more complicated ways to deny that we could have been created on purpose by God. They can accept unfathomably intelligent beings, but they can't accept the concept of God. Sad. Quoting: Resister Humans like to think that we are the only beings with a purpose and that this universe was exclusively made for us. This is a very bold claim in light of how vulnerable we are to sudden extinction. One supernova, asteroid, supervolcano or multiresistant virus and that's it. Game over. Purpose fulfilled? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9645738 United States 02/22/2013 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is fascinatingly disturbing is that brilliant people like Neil DeGrasse can invasion and embrace thoughts like that and at the same time spend their whole lives coming up with ever more complicated ways to deny that we could have been created on purpose by God. They can accept unfathomably intelligent beings, but they can't accept the concept of God. Sad. Quoting: Resister Oh yeah? Well, YOU'RE sad! |
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Resister User ID: 669410 United States 02/22/2013 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is fascinatingly disturbing is that brilliant people like Neil DeGrasse can invasion and embrace thoughts like that and at the same time spend their whole lives coming up with ever more complicated ways to deny that we could have been created on purpose by God. They can accept unfathomably intelligent beings, but they can't accept the concept of God. Sad. Quoting: Resister Humans like to think that we are the only beings with a purpose and that this universe was exclusively made for us. This is a very bold claim in light of how vulnerable we are to sudden extinction. One supernova, asteroid, supervolcano or multiresistant virus and that's it. Game over. Purpose fulfilled? We are more than flesh and blood. I know that God did create us, but to borrow from Neil a little bit, it would be incredibly arrogant to think that we are alone in the universe; that he had not created others. The angels are one example, but why would an infinite God stop at just two creations and put them in a universe that in our entire history we have not been able to explore? God is bigger than and so is the breadth and depth of his creation. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23229603 United States 02/22/2013 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is fascinatingly disturbing is that brilliant people like Neil DeGrasse can invasion and embrace thoughts like that and at the same time spend their whole lives coming up with ever more complicated ways to deny that we could have been created on purpose by God. They can accept unfathomably intelligent beings, but they can't accept the concept of God. Sad. Quoting: Resister Humans like to think that we are the only beings with a purpose and that this universe was exclusively made for us. This is a very bold claim in light of how vulnerable we are to sudden extinction. One supernova, asteroid, supervolcano or multiresistant virus and that's it. Game over. Purpose fulfilled? We are more than flesh and blood. I know that God did create us, but to borrow from Neil a little bit, it would be incredibly arrogant to think that we are alone in the universe; that he had not created others. The angels are one example, but why would an infinite God stop at just two creations and put them in a universe that in our entire history we have not been able to explore? God is bigger than and so is the breadth and depth of his creation. God did not create us. We created God. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33223464 United States 02/22/2013 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is fascinatingly disturbing is that brilliant people like Neil DeGrasse can invasion and embrace thoughts like that and at the same time spend their whole lives coming up with ever more complicated ways to deny that we could have been created on purpose by God. They can accept unfathomably intelligent beings, but they can't accept the concept of God. Sad. Quoting: Resister Yes it is sad, it's also the reason this piece of shit Neil is so popular and mainstream. Seriously, it's not hard to realize this guy is egotistical as all hell... which is one of the reasons that his "assumptions" are more than likely incorrect. Fuck this pseudo-intellectual, wannabe scientist. Fuck him and the elite that get his name out there. Wake up people, and stop worshiping this fucking ass hole, geeze! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23229603 United States 02/22/2013 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is fascinatingly disturbing is that brilliant people like Neil DeGrasse can invasion and embrace thoughts like that and at the same time spend their whole lives coming up with ever more complicated ways to deny that we could have been created on purpose by God. They can accept unfathomably intelligent beings, but they can't accept the concept of God. Sad. Quoting: Resister Dr. Tyson has actually spent his life researching and looking for answers of the universe which has led him to believe that it is unlikely that god exists. |
boltacular User ID: 33597030 United States 02/22/2013 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is this supposed to be some kind of revelation? That guy is such a hack...according to their precious big bang theory OF COURSE all elements come from the stars, OF COURSE there has to be life on other planets...and OF COURSE a species that only uses 10% of its brain capacity isn't going to be the smartest. DeGrassee is the perfect scientist for the elites lol..this gentle old black man with a sunny disposition to spit out factoids that, anyone who actually gives a shit, already knows. He speaks to sheep. and fuck him for deciding Pluto wouldn't be a planet anymore Guns don't kill people, the government does--Dale Gribble, King of the Hill |
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Resister User ID: 669410 United States 02/22/2013 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is fascinatingly disturbing is that brilliant people like Neil DeGrasse can invasion and embrace thoughts like that and at the same time spend their whole lives coming up with ever more complicated ways to deny that we could have been created on purpose by God. They can accept unfathomably intelligent beings, but they can't accept the concept of God. Sad. Quoting: Resister Dr. Tyson has actually spent his life researching and looking for answers of the universe which has led him to believe that it is unlikely that god exists. If you spend your whole life looking in the sky for answers thinking it will look like a red box, you may never see the answer of the blue ball beneath your own feet. You can't see what you are not looking at. I'm not saying the guy isn't smart or observant and I'm not going to be insulting like some others in this thread have been. Look at my first sentence. I called him brilliant. I enjoy listening to people like him discuss science. He is awesome at that, but Neil isn't looking for God. He is looking to explain the mechanics of the universe in the absence of God because he doesn't care. That is what I called sad. He sees so much and yet is still blind to what matters most. Don't believe me? Ask him. Here he is in his own words. He says, "I'm agnostic and it's more that I don't really care. I don't want to have to spend all this energy, but I keep getting called out into the boxing ring, largely against my wishes." He just wants to chase the mechanics of science and ignore the Creator of it. That is what is so sad. Last Edited by Resister on 02/22/2013 05:49 PM "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States 02/22/2013 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes it is sad, it's also the reason this piece of shit Neil is so popular and mainstream. Seriously, it's not hard to realize this guy is egotistical as all hell... which is one of the reasons that his "assumptions" are more than likely incorrect. Fuck this pseudo-intellectual, wannabe scientist. Fuck him and the elite that get his name out there. Wake up people, and stop worshiping this fucking ass hole, geeze! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33223464 :birdshit: |