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my theory on all the bubbling going on recently in sinkhole, lake and sea around LA & gulf of mexico
i am no geologist, but thought i share a thought i just had with you, maybe someone with more experts knowledge can share a thought on this?

we all know about the LA sinkhole in assumption parish and that it is bubbling.
due to this sinkhole, most of us here know about lake peigneur in LA, who is an old kind of sinkhole-event gone wrong. as posted in another thread today, this lake is bubbling now, too.
some days ago, there was a thread about a gas leak somewhere near macondo well where the deepwater horizon incident happened in the gulf of mexico.

assuming all these happenings are connected deeply underground,
and knowing that bubbling gas is methan in all of those places,
i wonder where it comes from and why it is coming to surface _now_ .

so now my theory:
this is formerly frozen methanhydrate warming up due to rising volcanic activity in the ground, now being methane gas and leaking all up the easiest way.
now look up these locations on a map;
if they are connected deep down in the ground.. this must be massive magma moving around down there to warm all this methanhydrate...


any thoughts?

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Interesting... ya know, when MC was gushing then was a lot of talk re: methane hydrates causing a cataclysmic end to the Gulf areas. Maybe.....it's all about to go boom!
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Re: my theory on all the bubbling going on recently in sinkhole, lake and sea around LA & gulf of mexico
Something is introducing enough heat to release Methane. Your theory is a real possibility.

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Re: my theory on all the bubbling going on recently in sinkhole, lake and sea around LA & gulf of mexico
that´s why i posted it.. no one - afaik - questioned where all this methane is coming from, just assuming it is down there. well, of course, it is!
but not just as gas...
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Re: my theory on all the bubbling going on recently in sinkhole, lake and sea around LA & gulf of mexico
i am no geologist, but thought i share a thought i just had with you, maybe someone with more experts knowledge can share a thought on this?

we all know about the LA sinkhole in assumption parish and that it is bubbling.
due to this sinkhole, most of us here know about lake peigneur in LA, who is an old kind of sinkhole-event gone wrong. as posted in another thread today, this lake is bubbling now, too.
some days ago, there was a thread about a gas leak somewhere near macondo well where the deepwater horizon incident happened in the gulf of mexico.

assuming all these happenings are connected deeply underground,
and knowing that bubbling gas is methan in all of those places,
i wonder where it comes from and why it is coming to surface _now_ .

so now my theory:
this is formerly frozen methanhydrate warming up due to rising volcanic activity in the ground, now being methane gas and leaking all up the easiest way.
now look up these locations on a map;
if they are connected deep down in the ground.. this must be massive magma moving around down there to warm all this methanhydrate...


any thoughts?
 Quoting: phoenixe

More water in the ocean from ice melt...more water = more weight and more pressure. check Post Glacier Rebound Effect.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Re: my theory on all the bubbling going on recently in sinkhole, lake and sea around LA & gulf of mexico
Careful. Matt Simmons died because he talked like that
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Re: my theory on all the bubbling going on recently in sinkhole, lake and sea around LA & gulf of mexico
i am no geologist, but thought i share a thought i just had with you, maybe someone with more experts knowledge can share a thought on this?

we all know about the LA sinkhole in assumption parish and that it is bubbling.
due to this sinkhole, most of us here know about lake peigneur in LA, who is an old kind of sinkhole-event gone wrong. as posted in another thread today, this lake is bubbling now, too.
some days ago, there was a thread about a gas leak somewhere near macondo well where the deepwater horizon incident happened in the gulf of mexico.

assuming all these happenings are connected deeply underground,
and knowing that bubbling gas is methan in all of those places,
i wonder where it comes from and why it is coming to surface _now_ .

so now my theory:
this is formerly frozen methanhydrate warming up due to rising volcanic activity in the ground, now being methane gas and leaking all up the easiest way.
now look up these locations on a map;
if they are connected deep down in the ground.. this must be massive magma moving around down there to warm all this methanhydrate...


any thoughts?
 Quoting: phoenixe

More water in the ocean from ice melt...more water = more weight and more pressure. check Post Glacier Rebound Effect.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Interesting.
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bump
Just one any....

The first symptom of stupidity is to think that we already know everything...

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Re: my theory on all the bubbling going on recently in sinkhole, lake and sea around LA & gulf of mexico
you should read the one entitled pretty simple dude.

That would be the heat you would need to get the gas bubbling.
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[link to jumpingjackflashhypothesis.blogspot.com]

It's the outgassing of hydrogen s'ulfide and methane.
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you should read the one entitled pretty simple dude.

That would be the heat you would need to get the gas bubbling.
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did that and answered his thread, as it is completely bullshit. explanation in this other thread.
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We're all gonna Diiiiiiiiiiiie!!!!!!!! ahhh
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[link to jumpingjackflashhypothesis.blogspot.com]

It's the outgassing of hydrogen s'ulfide and methane.
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.. that´s what we see as bubbles and methane gas.

but how does methane become a gas?
you know, deep down in the ocean it is frozen methanhydrate, something has to warm it up to become a gas at all.
solid stuff doesn´t bubble. so my theory is on how this is possibly happening.

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Re: my theory on all the bubbling going on recently in sinkhole, lake and sea around LA & gulf of mexico
so now my theory:
this is formerly frozen methanhydrate warming up due to rising volcanic activity in the ground, now being methane gas and leaking all up the easiest way.
now look up these locations on a map;
if they are connected deep down in the ground.. this must be massive magma moving around down there to warm all this methanhydrate...


any thoughts?
 Quoting: phoenixe


~5 star bump~

quite possible....

the Earth is changing [fast] and it is showing everywhere!

that whole area down there is becoming increasingly unstable....

Thread: WOW! - Mystery bubbling by ANOTHER Louisiana salt dome - Lake Peigneur
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Re: my theory on all the bubbling going on recently in sinkhole, lake and sea around LA & gulf of mexico
i am no geologist, but thought i share a thought i just had with you, maybe someone with more experts knowledge can share a thought on this?

we all know about the LA sinkhole in assumption parish and that it is bubbling.
due to this sinkhole, most of us here know about lake peigneur in LA, who is an old kind of sinkhole-event gone wrong. as posted in another thread today, this lake is bubbling now, too.
some days ago, there was a thread about a gas leak somewhere near macondo well where the deepwater horizon incident happened in the gulf of mexico.

assuming all these happenings are connected deeply underground,
and knowing that bubbling gas is methan in all of those places,
i wonder where it comes from and why it is coming to surface _now_ .

so now my theory:
this is formerly frozen methanhydrate warming up due to rising volcanic activity in the ground, now being methane gas and leaking all up the easiest way.
now look up these locations on a map;
if they are connected deep down in the ground.. this must be massive magma moving around down there to warm all this methanhydrate...


any thoughts?
 Quoting: phoenixe

More water in the ocean from ice melt...more water = more weight and more pressure. check Post Glacier Rebound Effect.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Chop's


ehm - something does not add up here, as afaik for example 1kg of ice cream is as heavy as 1kg of stone and is as heavy as 1kg of water (also: 1 liter of water).

so the weight - frozen or not - of water in any form should be the same, therefore the pressure it has on the crust should not change at all.

edit: glacier rebound effect is different from what you posted, so my answer is for your "more water = more weight and more pressure." statement.

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We're all gonna Diiiiiiiiiiiie!!!!!!!! ahhh
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sure. sooner or later. and in different ways. i don´t question that ;)
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good point...makes sense
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Re: my theory on all the bubbling going on recently in sinkhole, lake and sea around LA & gulf of mexico
It's all additive.

The extra energy from the solar flares.

The additional burning of rock around Earth's core as it expands.

The extra weight on pressure point of the ocean floor namely, The Mariana Trench and The Peurta Rican Trench.

What gets subtracted from the equation is volcanic eruption mass.
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So what Science Magazine did you read that in Genius. Its been commone knowledge and published many times in all the journals.

Its happening in various locations all over the World. Its caused by the warmer waters and yes from the internal heating going on in the core.

Make sure to credit the magazines you read next time.

There has been way more credible threads on this site with links about it than yours.

What a brain you have.
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Re: my theory on all the bubbling going on recently in sinkhole, lake and sea around LA & gulf of mexico
The magma layer is pretty far away from the area where the frozen methane is...

Its more likely oil water global warming or even seismic activity causing the change in temperature...
Take this into account what if the combination of all these elements are causing the methane to escape? Also what will happen once summer comes...?

The water above (spring and winter will drain into the salt domes forcing more surface area to collapse causing a rise in pressure causing more methane to escape... This allowing more fluid to sink to the bottom which in turn heats up more methane deposits, ect ect ect...

I think the real situation was that the oil companies dug too deep into the caverns. Now an excess amount of methane is circulating the cavern system, which needs to be vented (and fast). Before the situation becomes explosive...

Thank big oil for the loss.
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Elementary Watson!

Common sense.

I think it is interesting to consider what makes The Red Planet Red? How? Oops! Too much Peter Pan.

Anyway, does anyone know if Mars is said to have had a core before? Or a bigger core perhaps?
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So what Science Magazine did you read that in Genius. Its been commone knowledge and published many times in all the journals.

Its happening in various locations all over the World. Its caused by the warmer waters and yes from the internal heating going on in the core.

Make sure to credit the magazines you read next time.

There has been way more credible threads on this site with links about it than yours.

What a brain you have.
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who died and made you head nerd?
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as it has always been about weights and balances, a little swamp gas belches some gas and like we never did, c'mon and of course ours don't stink, off topic maybe so excuse me while i relieve myself.
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Well i tell yall what, being im a local, if anything sudden happens, you all will be the second to know, have to warn family first! LOL
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as it has always been about weights and balances, a little swamp gas belches some gas and like we never did, c'mon and of course ours don't stink, off topic maybe so excuse me while i relieve myself.
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I'm having a hard time deciphering your post.....
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Well i tell yall what, being im a local, if anything sudden happens, you all will be the second to know, have to warn family first! LOL
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sure - heads up & stay safe! hf
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Re: my theory on all the bubbling going on recently in sinkhole, lake and sea around LA & gulf of mexico
i am no geologist, but thought i share a thought i just had with you, maybe someone with more experts knowledge can share a thought on this?


any thoughts?
 Quoting: phoenixe


well putt

if you think about the crust of the earth and whats beneath it this might be what makes the earth grow

as we all know it has done in the past

just look at the continents and you can see how much growth we are talking about.

the gas could come from magma and probably does...

and sudden expencion could i guess lead to things like a global flooding, mass extinction, days of darkness etc
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So I suppose my answer was that the methane is heating yes.

But if magma were the direct cause. It wouldn't be the magma its self "heating the methane" But the seismic frequencies from the masses of magma moving which would cause it.

This is because the magma layer is hundreds of miles below the cavern floor's surface.

I also doubt that the movement of magma would produce any temperature differences so close to the surface (if this were a normal thing many earthquakes would have produces unimaginable fires by this time in our recorded history).

So its more likely a common material at that geological range or a material that has been introduced by human intervention.

So Coretix fracking theory, or basic geological oil and water movement.

I think the real situation is the amount of gas that is being released from these deposits...

Humans shouldn't be so greedy and attempted to mine dig and prosper in any area without thinking of the consequences. That is why the epa was originally constructed.

These days the epa is bought off to not only allow for companies to plunder but to speak positively about the projects they are allowing to take place.

I won't even comment on their Nuclear mistakes.

The bottom line is billionaires will do anything they can to make a profit. So when situations like this occur its the politics and politicians involved that are the real culprits.
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Well i tell yall what, being im a local, if anything sudden happens, you all will be the second to know, have to warn family first! LOL
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sure - heads up & stay safe! hf
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indeed!

dangerous situation down there!

Luke - how close are you to this Bespin Mining Facilty (sinkhole)?
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Re: my theory on all the bubbling going on recently in sinkhole, lake and sea around LA & gulf of mexico
If you take the recent events in consideration, everything points toward a huge earthquake in the california area, perhaps triggered by magnetic field issues more than by moving plates.

Sinkholes galore all over the world for the past five years or so, increased solar activity, meteors coming down and most recently dolphins acting very strange:

Thread: 7 Mile Long SUPER POD Of Over 100,000 Dolphins Race Past San Diego - Experts Concerned

Everytime there was a large fish gathering or stranding, it was followed by a devastating earthquake later on. See Chile, see Japan. Since the dolphins fleed the coast instead of stranding and given the increased activity of sinkholes with gas coming up and all, I think it's not too far out to expect a big one, perhaps THE big one.

Dolphins are super smart and have somewhat of a special connection with humans, they tell you something, you better listen. But everyone keeps making jokes about such "esoteric" bullshit. Well I wish it was just that. Time will tell.
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Well i tell yall what, being im a local, if anything sudden happens, you all will be the second to know, have to warn family first! LOL
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sure - heads up & stay safe! hf
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You got it....first hand accounts are unfiltered, thats my motto

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