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THE CREATOR'S TIME AND CALENDAR FOR THOSE INTERESTED! ARE YOU ON OUR FATHERS TIME?

 
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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You people that think YOU have it aaaalllll figured out crack me the fuck up.
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You people that think YOU have it aaaalllll figured out crack me the fuck up.
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MOVE ON DEVIL
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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You people that think YOU have it aaaalllll figured out crack me the fuck up.
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MOVE ON DEVIL
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Oh that's just funny as hell, get yer feelings hurt enough to ban me? You do know there is more than 1 IP on the Intertubes right?

Gonna sprinkle holy faery dust on me and pray that I vansish?

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You people that think YOU have it aaaalllll figured out crack me the fuck up.
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MOVE ON DEVIL
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Oh that's just funny as hell, get yer feelings hurt enough to ban me? You do know there is more than 1 IP on the Intertubes right?

Gonna sprinkle holy faery dust on me and pray that I vansish?

Drone.
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hf
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Sun and Moon Data for One Day
The following information is provided for %28no Name Given) (longitude E34.0, latitude N28.5):

Saturday
16 March 2013 Universal Time + 2h

SUN
Begin civil twilight 05:29
Sunrise 05:53
Sun transit 11:53
Sunset 17:53
End civil twilight 18:17

MOON
Moonset 21:25 on preceding day
Moonrise 08:33
Moon transit 15:24
Moonset 22:19
Moonrise 09:15 on following day

THIS IS MOUNT SINAI WHERE MOSES GOT THE LAWS OR MOUNT HOREB TODAY CALLED JUBAL MUSA

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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it's even deeper than you think:

how do we measure our earth year? We use distant quasars, not local ones. For those curious i suggest you look into it: be warned, it's a dark rabbit hole and when you realize that we are using incorrect reference points and then try to figure out *which" ones are correct you will find your mind spinning spinning spinning.

how do we know where we are when everything is fucking moving!

and i agree with you OP: 360 days devised into 12 30 day months with *5* (+1 every four years) not 4 holy days.

this is the egyptian calendar... and which star did they use as their reference, well it's out 'ol buddy Sirrius: the dog star.

the ONLY star that does not precess with the rest of the zodiac. and for many years no i stay at home on Jan 1, prefering to celebrate my newyears at year dawn: april 1.

tho it's curious: we are in alignment with sun and sirrus on Jan 3.

oh my dog star: may you guide me where to i belong....
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it's even deeper than you think:

how do we measure our earth year? We use distant quasars, not local ones. For those curious i suggest you look into it: be warned, it's a dark rabbit hole and when you realize that we are using incorrect reference points and then try to figure out *which" ones are correct you will find your mind spinning spinning spinning.

how do we know where we are when everything is fucking moving!

and i agree with you OP: 360 days devised into 12 30 day months with *5* (+1 every four years) not 4 holy days.

this is the egyptian calendar... and which star did they use as their reference, well it's out 'ol buddy Sirrius: the dog star.

the ONLY star that does not precess with the rest of the zodiac. and for many years no i stay at home on Jan 1, prefering to celebrate my newyears at year dawn: april 1.

tho it's curious: we are in alignment with sun and sirrus on Jan 3.

oh my dog star: may you guide me where to i belong....
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NOT
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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*smiling*

so long brother : may you find what u seek.
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It's not so easy.

Talmud: "It is written: "He appointed the Moon for the Seasons, the Sun knoweth his going down" (Psalm 104.19). This implies that the Sun knows his course, but the Moon knows not hers." (Rosh Hashanah 25a).


How do you explain, that Moon is visible in the day? It contradicts Scripture: Genesis 1.16 "And God made the two great lights, the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night; he made the stars also.
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It's not so easy.

Talmud: "It is written: "He appointed the Moon for the Seasons, the Sun knoweth his going down" (Psalm 104.19). This implies that the Sun knows his course, but the Moon knows not hers." (Rosh Hashanah 25a).


How do you explain, that Moon is visible in the day? It contradicts Scripture: Genesis 1.16 "And God made the two great lights, the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night; he made the stars also.
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the moon is dependent on the sun and she alters her course,it is written and proven.Jubilees teaches that the moon is not to be followed


The lunisolar calendar is used also by islam and is 354 days


the day of the vernal equinox is not what is being used by your false religions today


you can copute it for your self and see it falls of march 16th

HERE IS FROM THE BOOK OF JUBILEES THE COMMANDS TO MOSES THAT THE MOON IS NOT TO BE FOLLOWED.THIS IS MORE CONFIRMATION THAT THE LUNAR SHABBAT IS DEMONIC


And command thou the children of Israel that they observe the years according to this reckoning- three hundred and sixty-four days, and (these) will constitute a complete year, and they will not disturb its time from its days and from its feasts; for everything will fall out in them according to their testimony, and they will not leave out any day nor disturb any feasts.


But if they do neglect and do not observe them according to His commandment, then they will disturb all their seasons and the years will be dislodged from this (order), [and they will disturb the seasons and the years will be dislodged] and they will neglect their ordinances.

And all the children of Israel will forget and will not find the path of the years, and will forget the new moons, and seasons, and sabbaths and they will go wrong as to all the order of the years.

For I know and from henceforth will I declare it unto thee, and it is not of my own devising; for the book (lies) written before me, and on the heavenly tablets the division of days is ordained, lest they forget the feasts of the covenant and walk according to the feasts of the Gentiles after their error and after their ignorance.



**TAKE NOTE!**
For there will be those who will assuredly make observations of the moon -how (it) disturbs the seasons and comes in from year to year ten days too soon.


For this reason the years will come upon them when they will disturb (the order), and make an abominable (day) the day of testimony, and an unclean day a feast day, and they will confound all the days, the holy with the unclean, and the unclean day with the holy; for they will go wrong as to the months and sabbaths and feasts and jubilees.


For this reason I command and testify to thee that thou mayst testify to them; for after thy death thy children will disturb (them), so that they will not make the year three hundred and sixty-four days only, and for this reason they will go wrong as to the new moons and seasons and sabbaths and festivals, and they will eat all kinds of blood with all kinds of flesh.

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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WHY THESE JEWISH CALENDARS ARE WRONG THEY USED THEIR OWN TALMUDIC SECRET SCIENCE AND HASTINESS TO CORRECT THEIR 354 DAY LUNISOLAR CYCLE

JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA [link to www.jewishencyclopedia.com]

The history of the Jewish calendar may be divided into three periods—the Biblical, the Talmudic, and the post-Talmudic. The first rested purely on the observation of the sun and the moon, the second on observation and reckoning, the third entirely on reckoning.

The study of astronomy was largely due to the need of fixing the dates of the festivals. The command (Deut. xvi. 1), "Keep the month of Abib," made it necessary to be acquainted with the position of the sun; and the command, "Also observe themoon and sanctify it," made it necessary to study the phases of the moon.

Sanctify the moon? that is not scriptural! BUT FROM THE TALMUD


Post-Talmudic Period.

The persecutions under Constantius finally decided the patriarch, Hillel II. (330-365), to publish rules for the computation of the calendar, which had hitherto been regarded as a secret science.

The political difficulties attendant upon the meetings of the Sanhedrin became so numerous in this period, and the consequent uncertainty of the feast-days was so great, that R. Huna b. Abin made known the following secret of the calendar to Raba in Babylonia

: ***Whenever it becomes apparent that the winter will last till the 16th of Nisan, make the year a leap-year without hesitation.***

This unselfish promulgation of the calendar, though it destroyed the hold of the patriarchs on the scattered Judeans, fixed the celebration of the Jewish feasts upon the same day everywhere.

Later Jewish writers agree that the calendar was fixed by Hillel II. in the year 670 of the Seleucidan era; that is, 4119 A.M. or 359 C.E. Some, however, as Isaac Israeli, have fixed the date as late as 500.

Saadia afterward formulated calendar rules, after having disputed the correctness of the calendar established by the Karaites. That there is a slight error in the Jewish calendar—due to inaccuracies in the length of both the lunar and the solar years upon which it is based—has been asserted by a number of writers.
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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WHY THESE JEWISH CALENDARS ARE WRONG THEY USED THEIR OWN TALMUDIC SECRET SCIENCE AND HASTINESS TO CORRECT THEIR 354 DAY LUNISOLAR CYCLE

"Hints To The Significance of the Role Of The Equinox Calendar In The Babylonian Talmud


It is abundantly clear that both Rabbinical (Pharisee) and Karaite (Sadducee) Judaism declare that the equinox has to be deliberately avoided when calculating their religious calendars. That is an interesting practice in itself. Rabbinical Judaism uses the principle of looking to the first conjunctive moon that occurs in proximity to the vernal equinox, whereas the Karaite disclaim the equinox altogether with their oral law that the first sighted sliver new moon occurring after the discovered ripening of condition of the Aviv Barley in the land of Israel is the beginning of the new year.

The physical reality of creation however is that the ripening of barley is but a consequence of the specific ratio of dark and light hours of sun and is itself a sign of the effect of the equinox, rather than the sign of the new biblical year. However the unreliability of such as sign clearly arises when there is severe famine, severe drought and grain devastation as has been recorded in biblical history.

The fact that both the Pharisees and the Sadducees strongly deny the equinox as a rule in favour of the “new moon” calendar contrary to the word of Moses, and they deny that Yahushua is the authentic Messiah of Israel, should speak volumes to those returning to their biblical Hebraic roots of the faith today.

Not only that, but we also have the Essenes (via the Dead Sea scrolls) to thank for their independent testimony that the biblical calendar taught by Moses was defined by the vernal equinox, and that the practice of adding a 13th month intercalation in the Rabbinical / Sadducean calendars was never the practice of the law of Moses.

That in the last century, contemporary Historical Christianity together with Rabbinical Judaism have sought to keep the archaeological information discovered in the Qumran caves secret under lock and key for more than 60 years under the pretence that they needed to be studied and so could not be revealed to the greater public is today regarded as the greatest religious controversy of the modern era. At this time it is not know what Qumran materials still remain under the lock and key and yet kept secret…

However, despite the deliberate theological avoidance of the equinox by Judaism in the calculation of their religious calendar, there yet even appears to be hints even from within the Talmud that point to the fact that the deliberate anti-equinox theology has not completely erased all traces concerning an equinox based calendar."
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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islam have completely lunar calendar, they holy month ramadan slides from summer to winter.

Time is complicated thing, that's why in Talmud they say: "Count the months of the year, but not the days of the year." Megilah 5a.

What you referring to bad calendar, is so-called Fixed calendar. It was finally introduced by Maimonides in "Mishneh Torah", Kiddush HaChodesh part. Now most religions have synodic months. Synod = meeting between sun and moon.
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islam have completely lunar calendar, they holy month ramadan slides from summer to winter.

Time is complicated thing, that's why in Talmud they say: "Count the months of the year, but not the days of the year." Megilah 5a.

What you referring to bad calendar, is so-called Fixed calendar. It was finally introduced by Maimonides in "Mishneh Torah", Kiddush HaChodesh part. Now most religions have synodic months. Synod = meeting between sun and moon.
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did you not read the corruption of talmud....did not the bible teach that the moon messes up up her course? WHY FOLLOW SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT KNOW HER WAY?

I mean come on this is just pain ols common sense but the one thing I know is that the bible also say in the end time they will not recieve sound doctrine.

I challenge you to go on time and date. go to sunset and sunrise. change location to jerusalem and also the month to march.

Then tell me which day is the vernal equinox as described by scentists and even enoch..

This alone should convince you that you all are following lies
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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This is old covenant thinking. Galatians 3:13; Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us.

So scripture says the Old Testament Law is considered a curse.

How are you doing keeping the 3,000+ laws of the Old Testament?

Acts 1:7 And He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority.
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This is old covenant thinking. Galatians 3:13; Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us.

So scripture says the Old Testament Law is considered a curse.

How are you doing keeping the 3,000+ laws of the Old Testament?

Acts 1:7 And He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority.
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you are a sunday school student to be so ignorant of the time given by God and you follow a roman calendar given by the law of man?

You don't question that do you? no!


The Word of God says:Daniel 7:25, "And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time."

The word of Rome says:
"The Pope has the power to change times, to abrogate laws, and to dispense with all things, even the precepts of Christ." "The Pope has the authority and often exercised it, to dispense with the command of Christ." -Decretal, de Tranlatic Episcop. Cap. (The Pope can modify divine law.) Ferraris' Ecclesiastical Dictionary.


This is a copy of a Calendar published by the Vatican showing the change made by Pope Gregory back in October of 1582. Daniel's prophecy stated the beast would change "times" and "laws" and as many already know, the Vatican did in fact change the Calendar in the past! This I am happy to say is common knowledge among most living today.

Many of us are also aware that the Vatican changed the 7th day Sabbath to Sunday as well. That is the main issue I would like to illustrate on this page. The prophecy of Daniel is 100% accurate on this point without a doubt!

To illustrate this fact, I have a few facts I would like to make you aware of. Back in 1869 the Roman Catholic church put out a letter that attacked the Protestant believers for their desire to keep to the Word of God. In this letter, that I have listed below, the Roman Catholic church uses many Bible verses to prove that the Protestant churches are not doing as they should if they truly want to be considered Bible believing Christians. In essence their main argument was upon the Seventh Day Sabbath and that all Protestants were keeping a first day Sabbath according to Rome instead of the seventh day Sabbath according to the Scriptures. The Vatican declared and historically proved I might add, that THEY are the ones that changed the Sabbath to Sunday, NOT the Bible! Yet all the Bible embracing Protestants were still attending church on Sunday anyway. So... Rome's challenge was that if you claim to be Protestants, why is it you are keeping a doctrine which Rome itself can prove with 100% accuracy she invented without a single Bible passage as proof of that change?

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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changing holidays to Sunday signifies end of time. Did you not read, that Jesus many times said: this is the last days. If you keep shabbath, you must keep whole judaism, they live still in 6th day.
I agree with you on equinox, there you right.
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changing holidays to Sunday signifies end of time. Did you not read, that Jesus many times said: this is the last days. If you keep shabbath, you must keep whole judaism, they live still in 6th day.
I agree with you on equinox, there you right.
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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OP which priesthood laws should we follow? The Old Testament laws which say that the High Priest must be Aaron and his descendants? (Exodus 28)

Or the New Testament laws which say that Jesus Christ is the High Priest forever?


For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.
-- Hebrews 7:28
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OP which priesthood laws should we follow? The Old Testament laws which say that the High Priest must be Aaron and his descendants? (Exodus 28)

Or the New Testament laws which say that Jesus Christ is the High Priest forever?


For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.
-- Hebrews 7:28
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22004273


The one who said this.this is the high priest that we should follow


17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
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8 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

james 4:12
There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you--who are you to judge your neighbor?


Try this with someone else you like the scribes and pharasees setting traps and as a doogie bag I give this to take home

31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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OP which priesthood laws should we follow? The Old Testament laws which say that the High Priest must be Aaron and his descendants? (Exodus 28)

Or the New Testament laws which say that Jesus Christ is the High Priest forever?


For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.
-- Hebrews 7:28
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22004273


The one who said this.this is the high priest that we should follow


17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


So Jesus is the High Priest. As the bible says, His is not a Levitical priesthood.


11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.

14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.

-- Hebrews 7:11-14
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OP which priesthood laws should we follow? The Old Testament laws which say that the High Priest must be Aaron and his descendants? (Exodus 28)

Or the New Testament laws which say that Jesus Christ is the High Priest forever?


For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.
-- Hebrews 7:28
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22004273


The one who said this.this is the high priest that we should follow


17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


So Jesus is the High Priest. As the bible says, His is not a Levitical priesthood.


11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.

14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.

-- Hebrews 7:11-14
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22004273


zech chp 38 Hear now, O Joshua the high priest, thou, and thy fellows that sit before thee: for they are men wondered at: for, behold, I will bring forth my servant the BRANCH.
9 For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the LORD of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.



zech 6


12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD:

13 Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

"Christ said to peter upon this rock I will build my temple"


14 And the crowns shall be to Helem, and to Tobijah, and to Jedaiah, and to Hen the son of Zephaniah, for a memorial in the temple of the LORD.

15 And they that are far off shall come and build in the temple of the LORD, and ye shall know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me unto you. And this shall come to pass, if ye will diligently obey the voice of the LORD your God.



The same one who said this.this is the high priest that we should follow

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
1
8 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

james 4:12
There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you--who are you to judge your neighbor?


Try this with someone else you like the scribes and pharasees setting traps and as a doogie bag I give this to take home

31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.[/color

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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This is old covenant thinking. Galatians 3:13; Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us.

So scripture says the Old Testament Law is considered a curse.

How are you doing keeping the 3,000+ laws of the Old Testament?

Acts 1:7 And He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35268804


you are a sunday school student to be so ignorant of the time given by God and you follow a roman calendar given by the law of man?

You don't question that do you? no!


The Word of God says:Daniel 7:25, "And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time."

The word of Rome says:
"The Pope has the power to change times, to abrogate laws, and to dispense with all things, even the precepts of Christ." "The Pope has the authority and often exercised it, to dispense with the command of Christ." -Decretal, de Tranlatic Episcop. Cap. (The Pope can modify divine law.) Ferraris' Ecclesiastical Dictionary.


This is a copy of a Calendar published by the Vatican showing the change made by Pope Gregory back in October of 1582. Daniel's prophecy stated the beast would change "times" and "laws" and as many already know, the Vatican did in fact change the Calendar in the past! This I am happy to say is common knowledge among most living today.

Many of us are also aware that the Vatican changed the 7th day Sabbath to Sunday as well. That is the main issue I would like to illustrate on this page. The prophecy of Daniel is 100% accurate on this point without a doubt!

To illustrate this fact, I have a few facts I would like to make you aware of. Back in 1869 the Roman Catholic church put out a letter that attacked the Protestant believers for their desire to keep to the Word of God. In this letter, that I have listed below, the Roman Catholic church uses many Bible verses to prove that the Protestant churches are not doing as they should if they truly want to be considered Bible believing Christians. In essence their main argument was upon the Seventh Day Sabbath and that all Protestants were keeping a first day Sabbath according to Rome instead of the seventh day Sabbath according to the Scriptures. The Vatican declared and historically proved I might add, that THEY are the ones that changed the Sabbath to Sunday, NOT the Bible! Yet all the Bible embracing Protestants were still attending church on Sunday anyway. So... Rome's challenge was that if you claim to be Protestants, why is it you are keeping a doctrine which Rome itself can prove with 100% accuracy she invented without a single Bible passage as proof of that change?
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


You used old testament prophecy (already fulfilled) to back up your old covenant.

Looks like you need a trip to Sunday school.

Read Galatians chapter 3, its all there in very plain sight. Paul is writing to the Galatians because they try to finish what God started by going back to the law. The law IS the curse, was put there after Abraham because of our transgression, and ONLY until Jesus.

Faith in Jesus fulfills the law. You can walk in history and the law, and I'll walk in the power of the Spirit who raised Christ from the dead.

You can't mix the old and new covenant, thats exactly what the Galatians did and they are still babes in Christ, carnally minded drinking milk, not eating solid food because they are not DOING the will of the father, which is an action.

1 James 22-25: Be doers of the word, and not hearers only DECEIVING yourselves

Its all clear, so stop quoting old testament prophets, those have been fulfilled...they all pointed to JESUS, who fulfilled the law as well

End of story.
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This is old covenant thinking. Galatians 3:13; Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us.

So scripture says the Old Testament Law is considered a curse.

How are you doing keeping the 3,000+ laws of the Old Testament?

Acts 1:7 And He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35268804


you are a sunday school student to be so ignorant of the time given by God and you follow a roman calendar given by the law of man?

You don't question that do you? no!


The Word of God says:Daniel 7:25, "And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time."

The word of Rome says:
"The Pope has the power to change times, to abrogate laws, and to dispense with all things, even the precepts of Christ." "The Pope has the authority and often exercised it, to dispense with the command of Christ." -Decretal, de Tranlatic Episcop. Cap. (The Pope can modify divine law.) Ferraris' Ecclesiastical Dictionary.


This is a copy of a Calendar published by the Vatican showing the change made by Pope Gregory back in October of 1582. Daniel's prophecy stated the beast would change "times" and "laws" and as many already know, the Vatican did in fact change the Calendar in the past! This I am happy to say is common knowledge among most living today.

Many of us are also aware that the Vatican changed the 7th day Sabbath to Sunday as well. That is the main issue I would like to illustrate on this page. The prophecy of Daniel is 100% accurate on this point without a doubt!

To illustrate this fact, I have a few facts I would like to make you aware of. Back in 1869 the Roman Catholic church put out a letter that attacked the Protestant believers for their desire to keep to the Word of God. In this letter, that I have listed below, the Roman Catholic church uses many Bible verses to prove that the Protestant churches are not doing as they should if they truly want to be considered Bible believing Christians. In essence their main argument was upon the Seventh Day Sabbath and that all Protestants were keeping a first day Sabbath according to Rome instead of the seventh day Sabbath according to the Scriptures. The Vatican declared and historically proved I might add, that THEY are the ones that changed the Sabbath to Sunday, NOT the Bible! Yet all the Bible embracing Protestants were still attending church on Sunday anyway. So... Rome's challenge was that if you claim to be Protestants, why is it you are keeping a doctrine which Rome itself can prove with 100% accuracy she invented without a single Bible passage as proof of that change?
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


You used old testament prophecy (already fulfilled) to back up your old covenant.

Looks like you need a trip to Sunday school.

Read Galatians chapter 3, its all there in very plain sight. Paul is writing to the Galatians because they try to finish what God started by going back to the law. The law IS the curse, was put there after Abraham because of our transgression, and ONLY until Jesus.

Faith in Jesus fulfills the law. You can walk in history and the law, and I'll walk in the power of the Spirit who raised Christ from the dead.

You can't mix the old and new covenant, thats exactly what the Galatians did and they are still babes in Christ, carnally minded drinking milk, not eating solid food because they are not DOING the will of the father, which is an action.

1 James 22-25: Be doers of the word, and not hearers only DECEIVING yourselves

Its all clear, so stop quoting old testament prophets, those have been fulfilled...they all pointed to JESUS, who fulfilled the law as well

End of story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35268804


Merry christmas! who's law is that ?


So again according to the law you obey Merry Christmas and happy SUNday give rome my regards
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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This is old covenant thinking. Galatians 3:13; Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us.

So scripture says the Old Testament Law is considered a curse.

How are you doing keeping the 3,000+ laws of the Old Testament?

Acts 1:7 And He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35268804


you are a sunday school student to be so ignorant of the time given by God and you follow a roman calendar given by the law of man?

You don't question that do you? no!


The Word of God says:Daniel 7:25, "And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time."

The word of Rome says:
"The Pope has the power to change times, to abrogate laws, and to dispense with all things, even the precepts of Christ." "The Pope has the authority and often exercised it, to dispense with the command of Christ." -Decretal, de Tranlatic Episcop. Cap. (The Pope can modify divine law.) Ferraris' Ecclesiastical Dictionary.


This is a copy of a Calendar published by the Vatican showing the change made by Pope Gregory back in October of 1582. Daniel's prophecy stated the beast would change "times" and "laws" and as many already know, the Vatican did in fact change the Calendar in the past! This I am happy to say is common knowledge among most living today.

Many of us are also aware that the Vatican changed the 7th day Sabbath to Sunday as well. That is the main issue I would like to illustrate on this page. The prophecy of Daniel is 100% accurate on this point without a doubt!

To illustrate this fact, I have a few facts I would like to make you aware of. Back in 1869 the Roman Catholic church put out a letter that attacked the Protestant believers for their desire to keep to the Word of God. In this letter, that I have listed below, the Roman Catholic church uses many Bible verses to prove that the Protestant churches are not doing as they should if they truly want to be considered Bible believing Christians. In essence their main argument was upon the Seventh Day Sabbath and that all Protestants were keeping a first day Sabbath according to Rome instead of the seventh day Sabbath according to the Scriptures. The Vatican declared and historically proved I might add, that THEY are the ones that changed the Sabbath to Sunday, NOT the Bible! Yet all the Bible embracing Protestants were still attending church on Sunday anyway. So... Rome's challenge was that if you claim to be Protestants, why is it you are keeping a doctrine which Rome itself can prove with 100% accuracy she invented without a single Bible passage as proof of that change?
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


You used old testament prophecy (already fulfilled) to back up your old covenant.

Looks like you need a trip to Sunday school.

Read Galatians chapter 3, its all there in very plain sight. Paul is writing to the Galatians because they try to finish what God started by going back to the law. The law IS the curse, was put there after Abraham because of our transgression, and ONLY until Jesus.

Faith in Jesus fulfills the law. You can walk in history and the law, and I'll walk in the power of the Spirit who raised Christ from the dead.

You can't mix the old and new covenant, thats exactly what the Galatians did and they are still babes in Christ, carnally minded drinking milk, not eating solid food because they are not DOING the will of the father, which is an action.

1 James 22-25: Be doers of the word, and not hearers only DECEIVING yourselves

Its all clear, so stop quoting old testament prophets, those have been fulfilled...they all pointed to JESUS, who fulfilled the law as well

End of story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35268804


Merry christmas! who's law is that ?


So again according to the law you obey Merry Christmas and happy SUNday give rome my regards
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Name the scripture where faith in Jesus says to celebrate Christmas? I worship Jesus everyday, and lay hands on the sick, cast out demons, and I do that every day, even on the Sabbath.

So if you even miss one of the 3,000+ levitical laws (the curse singular) you are cursed.

No where in the Bible does faith in Christ dictate celebrating Christmas, Easter, tooth fairy, or whatever else you try to pull out of thin air

Old covenant=the curse
New Covenant=life

The law was from Mans transgression, and fulfilled THROUGH faith in Jesus. What don't you understand? It's all clearly there, but you are a legalist, and pick and choose what parts of the law you'd like to enforce

The law (the curse) is an all or nothing deal, and all believers know its impossible to follow, so you cant be selective.

Life or death

Faith or curse

Jesus or everything else...theres no getting around this one, so keep scoffing and keep the law
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The same one who said this.this is the high priest that we should follow

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


You need to figure out under what law Jesus Christ is High Priest. It isn't under the Law of Moses, as the bible says. It's the new covenant law, Jesus Christ is the High Priest forever. Jesus did not change the Law of Moses in any way.

The new covenant law is not the Law of Moses. If it was, Jesus could not be High Priest, because He is not descended from Aaron.

If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
-- Hebrews 7:11
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How many new calenders do we have on GLP? And will there be nude women on this one?

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