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An Attempt To Make Any Athiests Consider .....

 
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Ahh yes. i do know the possible thumps I'm about to hear. As long as those concerned hear me out and offer valid debate, then let's see.
Most believe the Holy Bible is the Gospel. I dont think so. it definately has some of the original Gospel in it, but man has passed the knowledge down for the last 2k yrs and the church really hasn't changed that much. They withhold info they dont deem us needing to know, they protect their own over the truth, which is a lot of what being a christian is all about. Numerous other examples.
But the Holy Bible, especially the New Testament,from my POV, is a collection of personal "witness accounts" to the life and teachings of a man born and lived in the manner as stated in the Bible. Records and witness accounts for ALL the major religions show everything up to the crucifixition of Who we know to be Jesus of Nazareth. The Messiah to christians. Muslims believed Jesus escaped the cross, was a divine prophet of God to join with the muslim savior to do battle at Armaggeddon against Satan. But if he is such, how could he lie about being the Christ? How can God condone this?
Now let's consider just how intelligent and foresight someone would have to have to write what we know as the Holy Bible when the modern technology of the day was a mounted wheel. The birth of Jesus is what seperated the Bible to the koran, the Torah and the New Testament. Everything was almost unison from the Garden of Eden to His birth. Did I mention the Jews believe Jesus also to be a divine prophet of God? Again, how could Jesus lie about who He is if He isn't the Christ? This couldnt possibly be the work of church politicians doing whatever they had to to stay in power? The crusades blows the whistle on the catholic church for me. I am totally unaware of God telling the church to kill or torture anyone. And I've looked.
I found quite the opposite. Truth, love, compassion, forgiveness toward EVERYONE. Stay away from those that would hurt your ambitions. Dont judge others for their actions. All that kind of stuff.
I know most will not go out and start reading a Bible over this but it would be nice for someone to ctually take this seriously. I'm done.

Last Edited by GoldenRuled on 02/22/2013 11:47 PM
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bump'en for thumping.

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You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe.
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You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe.
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No, i did not believe anything but reason, and did not have any need to believe. But I repented from that because of the evidence. But now, with the OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE of prophesy I have, and with the experience of seeing things as they are
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You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe.
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No, i did not believe anything but reason, and did not have any need to believe. But I repented from that because of the evidence. But now, with the OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE of prophesy I have, and with the experience of seeing things as they are...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35078276


... I know, not ONLY believe, the truth.
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"christ" is a title and jesus wasn't the only one to attain it. there are christed humans on earth right now, and you can "pray" to them any time you want. not only that...if you work with natural law, they will help you.

by the way, to "pray" is merely to assert what you know is true.
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"christ" is a title and jesus wasn't the only one to attain it. there are christed humans on earth right now, and you can "pray" to them any time you want. not only that...if you work with natural law, they will help you.

by the way, to "pray" is merely to assert what you know is true.
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get out!!!
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"christ" is a title and jesus wasn't the only one to attain it. there are christed humans on earth right now, and you can "pray" to them any time you want. not only that...if you work with natural law, they will help you.

by the way, to "pray" is merely to assert what you know is true.
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get out!!!
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... and pass away, you, pissing cloud :)
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You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29530812


No, i did not believe anything but reason, and did not have any need to believe. But I repented from that because of the evidence. But now, with the OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE of prophesy I have, and with the experience of seeing things as they are...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35078276


... I know, not ONLY believe, the truth.
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You need to get laid, you don't know shit.
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As soon as I realised you're unable to form paragraphs I stopped reading.
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You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29530812


No, i did not believe anything but reason, and did not have any need to believe. But I repented from that because of the evidence. But now, with the OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE of prophesy I have, and with the experience of seeing things as they are...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35078276


... I know, not ONLY believe, the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35078276


You need to get laid, you don't know shit.
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by whom? my wife?

Piss off.
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As soon as I realised you're unable to form paragraphs I stopped reading.
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There is a 'paragraph' against you!
Opinions of the dead do not matter.
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As soon as I realised you're unable to form paragraphs I stopped reading.
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There is a 'paragraph' against you!
Opinions of the dead do not matter.
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I'd be honored to read that. Too bad I'm dead so I can't read it.
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No, i did not believe anything but reason, and did not have any need to believe. But I repented from that because of the evidence. But now, with the OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE of prophesy I have, and with the experience of seeing things as they are...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35078276


... I know, not ONLY believe, the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35078276


You need to get laid, you don't know shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33722154


by whom? my wife?

Piss off.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35078276


You know the truth you said, why do you need to ask?

Obviously not your wife because her inability to comfort you has led you to believe the nonsense you believe.

Idiot.
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As soon as I realised you're unable to form paragraphs I stopped reading.
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There is a 'paragraph' against you!
Opinions of the dead do not matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35078276


I'd be honored to read that. Too bad I'm dead so I can't read it.
 Quoting: krosty


lolsign
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As soon as I realised you're unable to form paragraphs I stopped reading.
 Quoting: krosty


There is a 'paragraph' against you!
Opinions of the dead do not matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35078276


I'd be honored to read that. Too bad I'm dead so I can't read it.
 Quoting: krosty


yeh, it will be read out to you at the appropriate time. And meanwhile, the dead in their sins remain dead. I am not without sin, so I am not throwing any stones at you.
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As soon as I realised you're unable to form paragraphs I stopped reading.
 Quoting: krosty


There is a 'paragraph' against you!
Opinions of the dead do not matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35078276


I'd be honored to read that. Too bad I'm dead so I can't read it.
 Quoting: krosty


lolsign
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why are you so pathetic?! there was no humour or wit in what he said.
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There is a 'paragraph' against you!
Opinions of the dead do not matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35078276


I'd be honored to read that. Too bad I'm dead so I can't read it.
 Quoting: krosty


lolsign
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why are you so pathetic?! there was no humour or wit in what he said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35078276


You said "Opinions of the dead do not matter",

on a forum,

as a reply to another human, who I presume is very much alive. Then you tell him to read what you typed...

And the person replies that he can't read 'cause he's dead!

That is funny to me. Maybe not to you, but then again, you take yourself way too serious with your bullshit religious theories.
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BORING
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That's all I got too!
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I'd be honored to read that. Too bad I'm dead so I can't read it.
 Quoting: krosty


lolsign
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33722154


why are you so pathetic?! there was no humour or wit in what he said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35078276


You said "Opinions of the dead do not matter",

on a forum,

as a reply to another human, who I presume is very much alive. Then you tell him to read what you typed...

And the person replies that he can't read 'cause he's dead!

That is funny to me. Maybe not to you, but then again, you take yourself way too serious with your bullshit religious theories.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33722154


i see why. But it is not something, that i have not figured out about you.
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lolsign
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why are you so pathetic?! there was no humour or wit in what he said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35078276


You said "Opinions of the dead do not matter",

on a forum,

as a reply to another human, who I presume is very much alive. Then you tell him to read what you typed...

And the person replies that he can't read 'cause he's dead!

That is funny to me. Maybe not to you, but then again, you take yourself way too serious with your bullshit religious theories.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33722154


i see why. But it is not something, that i have not figured out about you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35078276


Oh, there's that God complex again.

Newsflash: Nobody gives a shit.
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The difference between you and me is such: you see yourself as a reasoned man, that is to say a good man, without prejudice, and any sort of yada-yada, and who is confident and secure in the realm of your REASON; I, on in contrast with you have no trust in my reason, and have no intelligence and understanding of anything at all unless I have some help.
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why are you so pathetic?! there was no humour or wit in what he said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35078276


You said "Opinions of the dead do not matter",

on a forum,

as a reply to another human, who I presume is very much alive. Then you tell him to read what you typed...

And the person replies that he can't read 'cause he's dead!

That is funny to me. Maybe not to you, but then again, you take yourself way too serious with your bullshit religious theories.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33722154


i see why. But it is not something, that i have not figured out about you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35078276


Oh, there's that God complex again.

Newsflash: Nobody gives a shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33722154


That is because you are dung in His eyes, that is why you only produce spiritual shit, while thinking that you don't give a shit; yet, you shit here.
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A: "I believe in God"

B: "I believe in God too, but in a slightly different way"

C: "I believe in Something Else"



A: "I'm going to kill you all because I'm right but you are not"


B: "We'll kill you first"

C: "Death to the Infidels!"




Religion has so much blood on it's hands it no longer deserves to be taken seriously.

A God that allows child rape to happen, for whatever reason, is not worth worshipping.


Screw religion, my morals are better than that.


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A: "I believe in God"

B: "I believe in God too, but in a slightly different way"

C: "I believe in Something Else"



A: "I'm going to kill you all because I'm right but you are not"


B: "We'll kill you first"

C: "Death to the Infidels!"




Religion has so much blood on it's hands it no longer deserves to be taken seriously.

A God that allows child rape to happen, for whatever reason, is not worth worshipping.


Screw religion, my morals are better than that.


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You are not the first one who thought of that, Mark Twain did just the same, I hope at least he did not think that he managed better books than the Bible.

I know you may disagree about his books: after all, it is his books, not the Bible had saved Tesla's spirit and eventually life. Ironically, Tesla considered the Bible the source of all truth that can be found here.
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HEY OP!

I found quite the opposite. Truth, love, compassion, forgiveness toward EVERYONE. Stay away from those that would hurt your ambitions. Dont judge others for their actions. All that kind of stuff.
I know most will not go out and start reading a Bible over this but it would be nice for someone to ctually take this seriously. I'm done.


I found these qualities too..
without the book..
(just using senses)


I am bad for realizing the same with different approach ?

i like to unite people, not divide
do you think you can say this also,
when it comes to religion ?

hf
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You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe.
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Is that what it is, or is that what your narrow mind thinks that it is?

Think on your answer first.
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A: "I believe in God"

B: "I believe in God too, but in a slightly different way"

C: "I believe in Something Else"



A: "I'm going to kill you all because I'm right but you are not"


B: "We'll kill you first"

C: "Death to the Infidels!"




Religion has so much blood on it's hands it no longer deserves to be taken seriously.

A God that allows child rape to happen, for whatever reason, is not worth worshipping.


Screw religion, my morals are better than that.


.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35047860


You are not the first one who thought of that, Mark Twain did just the same, I hope at least he did not think that he managed better books than the Bible.

I know you may disagree about his books: after all, it is his books, not the Bible had saved Tesla's spirit and eventually life. Ironically, Tesla considered the Bible the source of all truth that can be found here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35078276



The Bible:

Mankind is set up for a fall - so your losing before you start.

Self castration is the best way to ensure you get to heaven.

It's find to let people have sex with your you daughter to protect an angel.

Revision after revision, translation after translation, it's all inconsistent.

And Genesis is some of the worst writing I have ever read ANYWHERE.

Makes you wonder if 'Christians' actually read the thing before spouting all of this oppressive BS.

At least I bothered to read it to see if I beleived it or not.

2/10 - and only 2 points because the teachings of Jesus, i.e 'how to be a decent human being' have some value in a social context.
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HEY OP!

I found quite the opposite. Truth, love, compassion, forgiveness toward EVERYONE. Stay away from those that would hurt your ambitions. Dont judge others for their actions. All that kind of stuff.
I know most will not go out and start reading a Bible over this but it would be nice for someone to ctually take this seriously. I'm done.


I found these qualities too..
without the book..
(just using senses)


I am bad for realizing the same with different approach ?

i like to unite people, not divide
do you think you can say this also,
when it comes to religion ?

hf
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Hello, Funney. "One (Satan) in many! Unity (with Satan) in Diversity!" You are a genus, Funney!

Have you already been given official offer.

Or you can semantically reverse your situation?

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