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ELISA LAM -- TB OUTBREAK?

 
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I have family in Tokyo, I don't know what to do!
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I swear there will be no TB outbreak. other than that, good luck.
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do you know something?
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check yes
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check as in chess?
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Florida Covered Up the Worst Tuberculosis Outbreak in 20 Years

[link to www.theatlanticwire.com]


TB seems to be very prevalent!
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Elisa Lam = SEAL I LAM

The first seal is opened by the Lamb
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wow... nice! from wikipedia:

The Seven Seals is a phrase in the Book of Revelation that refers to seven symbolic seals that secure the book or scroll, that John of Patmos saw in his Revelation of Jesus Christ. The opening of the seals of the Apocalyptic document occurs in Revelation Chapters 5-8. In John's vision, the only one worthy to open the book is referred to as both the "Lion of Judah" and the "Lamb having seven horns and seven eyes".[5:5-6]

Upon the Lamb opening a seal from the book, a judgment is released or an apocalyptic event occurs. The opening of the first four seals release The Four Horsemen, each with their own specific mission.[6:1-8] The opening of the fifth seal releases the cries of martyrs for the "word of God".[6:9-11] The sixth seal prompts cataclysmic events.[6:12-17] The seventh seal cues seven angelic trumpeters who in turn cue the seven bowl judgments.[8:1-13]

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Whoa!!!!!!!!! but I'm not giving my power away.
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Elisa Lam = SEAL I LAM

The first seal is opened by the Lamb
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Whoa!!!!!!!!! but I'm not giving my power away.
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shingle vac. ...So I hear. night
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Waiting on the sixth seal? Wait, there wern.t seals but every comet brought on a plague,wow... nice! from wikipedia:

The Seven Seals is a phrase in the Book of Revelation that refers to seven symbolic seals that secure the book or scroll, that John of Patmos saw in his Revelation of Jesus Christ. The opening of the seals of the Apocalyptic document occurs in Revelation Chapters 5-8. In John's vision, the only one worthy to open the book is referred to as both the "Lion of Judah" and the "Lamb having seven horns and seven eyes".[5:5-6]

Upon the Lamb opening a seal from the book, a judgment is released or an apocalyptic event occurs. The opening of the first four seals release The Four Horsemen, each with their own specific mission.[6:1-8] The opening of the fifth seal releases the cries of martyrs for the "word of God".[6:9-11] The sixth seal prompts cataclysmic events.[6:12-17] The seventh seal cues seven angelic trumpeters who in turn cue the seven bowl judgments.[8:1-13]
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Remember this?


TB Outbreaks in Texas Schools Show Disease Still a Threat
At least 100 people have tested positive for the respiratory ailment


[link to consumer.healthday.com]
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Dealing With A TB Epidemic
June 1, 2007 5:05 AM
A recent study revealed that half the states in America would run out of hospital beds within two weeks of a tuberculosis outbreak. Nancy Cordes has more.

[link to www.cbsnews.com]
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I have family in Tokyo, I don't know what to do!
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Relax. What is done is done. iodine wut? you mean seaweed? wut? You are kinda screwed in Japan but maybe thus will change our lives. Forever. Three feet back is always a leap forward. We are looking at you.
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watch 227-229 ... tell me who see's it!
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Just watched the vid again. She walks into the elevator normally,but then, once she gets scared, she starts doing this sidestepping thing, perfect 90 degree angles, even when she goes backwards. She's superstitious, thinks something's after her.
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I have family in Tokyo, I don't know what to do!
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Relax. What is done is done. iodine wut? you mean seaweed? wut? You are kinda screwed in Japan but maybe thus will change our lives. Forever. Three feet back is always a leap forward. We are looking at you.
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Sorry I don't know what you are talking about so I can not really take this seriously.
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WTF... At the 30 min mark, in the movie Dark Water, she is using the bathroom sink for a drink and human hair unloads into her glass!

This shit does seem to be a freaky set of coincidences.

HEr room number was 9F, anybody know Lam's #?

ohno
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227-229 looks like she becomes a zombie
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227-229 she leaves but LOOK at the left side of the elevator there is a shadow or something that moves after she is gone
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A sordid past this place has.

The Lady Ghosts of the Cecil Hotel
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Post date: 19 Feb 2013 - 5:24pm

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227-229 she leaves but LOOK at the left side of the elevator there is a shadow or something that moves after she is gone
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I saw that too-

This is mix between two movies:

1. Elevator
2: Dark water
Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667.
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Can't be first seal because we are already at the fulfilment of the 6th seal and got the long term announcement of the 7th seal (see Ex-SEAL-Sniper Murder on Feb. 2nd and Super Bowl 47 power outtage).

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WTF... At the 30 min mark, in the movie Dark Water, she is using the bathroom sink for a drink and human hair unloads into her glass!

This shit does seem to be a freaky set of coincidences.

HEr room number was 9F, anybody know Lam's #?

ohno
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I searched 9f the first links referred to 9f as a type of locomotive also known to be the evening star, Edgar Allen Poe wrote a poem named the evening star. His mother died form tuberculosis as well as his wife. His mother's name was Eliza and his wife's name was Virginia Eliza. Kind of a stretch, but still interesting.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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WTF... At the 30 min mark, in the movie Dark Water, she is using the bathroom sink for a drink and human hair unloads into her glass!

This shit does seem to be a freaky set of coincidences.

HEr room number was 9F, anybody know Lam's #?

ohno
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I searched 9f the first links referred to 9f as a type of locomotive also known to be the evening star, Edgar Allen Poe wrote a poem named the evening star. His mother died form tuberculosis as well as his wife. His mother's name was Eliza and his wife's name was Virginia Eliza. Kind of a stretch, but still interesting.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.southernsteamtrains.com]
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Six degrees of separation, nice work bud!

*Add: I only added that reference to my original post because, of the few minutes I had watched, they seemed to display the door with that number more than a few times conspicuously.

Last Edited by Patient.Zer0 on 02/23/2013 05:48 AM
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Can't be first seal because we are already at the fulfilment of the 6th seal and got the long term announcement of the 7th seal (see Ex-SEAL-Sniper Murder on Feb. 2nd and Super Bowl 47 power outtage).

Namaste

Deckard666
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Please explain this to a noob glp'er.
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"Elisa Lam" is definitely code for TB. I'm guessing the body found is the cause of the TB outbreak in L.A. It could have been a deliberate biological attack and the media outlets are trying to downplay it.
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No. A previous poster who seems to be in the know a little bit said it wasn't tb but maybe something having to do with a shingles vaccine and that Japan was going to be hit.
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I now submit 2 videos of people having a blast on Hotel Cecil's rooftop in hopes to crush the talk about there being 'only one way to access the rooftop'.

There are 3 external fire escapes attached to the Hotel Cecil, all with access to the rooftop. You can see the fire escape ladders popping up, over, and on to the roof in a quick keyword search of google images or an address search using gargle maps.


aerial photo map.
[link to l8r_tard]

Also, it seems there may be no alarm in place on the doors leading to the fire escapes of Hotel Cecil.

Example A: These Complete JackAsses probably do not have any legitimate access to the roof:




Example B: These Other Folks... who knows:

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So so creepy I just looked at the meaning of Elisa on urban dictionary chek out definition towards the bottom of page deaf. #4 from username citizens of earth!!!!

This is so creepy... The whole thingIdol1
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Decomposing body found in water tank that of Elisa Lam..

Hotel guests/residents were drinking/ingesting, bathing etc. with this water.

TB test, which is for a particular form of TB (that can be contracted by ingesting) MIRRORS HER NAME.

Hotel Cecil, Downtown LA
ELISA LAM.

TB outbreak, Downtown LA
LAM ELISA (Name of test)

ELISA LAM= LAM ELISA

Can't ignore this coincidence..

Who are these people infected with this TB?
Are they people at the hotel??

Is it really medicine/drug resistant??

When was the name of this test determined??

Is this the start of something large? Was this done on purpose?

Thread: Corpse found in L.A. hotel's water tank
Thread: BREAKING: Thousands May Have Been Exposed to Deadly TB Epidemic in Downtown Los Angeles
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Elisa Lam is such a common name this is just pure coincidence.

Nothing odd about this at all.

/sarcasm
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if I were around TB, I'd be alkalinizing my body. One TB sanitarium used lemon juice and sunshine to kill off TB in their place and folks went home. I'd also get some hydrogen peroxide and if I didn't have a nebulizer I'd boil water on the stove with sea salt or salt like making spaghetti and add after you turn off the boil about 1/8 a cup of 2% cheap hydrogen peroxide. Make a sauna with a towel and breathe it in for 5-15 minutes. I'd use Qtips soaked in peroxide in my ears and distal nose zone after being around public places and wash clothes daily.The nebulizer formula is add 1/2 cap of 2% peroxide to the 5cc of Alupent solution or use normal saline and breathe it til it runs out. Best to use mask not use pipe so you get sinus too. TB hates oxygen.Remove stress from your life or get as much joy squeeezed in as you can to counter it. No microwaving foods.
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I wrote this for all of you to read based on the video and the pictures that I have seen.

[link to www.thececilhotel.com]

[link to www.thececilhotel.com]



So here is my analysis of this video and what I think happened. What I wanted to figure out first was the floor
that she might have been on. By pulling up some pictures of the hotel, I can tell you that she was not on the
first floor. By looking at the floor pattern and at the wall color outside the elevator you can tell this. By
comparing what you see in the video to the picture on the side of the different floors, you can tell that the
red/orange color would only be on the first floor, at which the elevator had stopped at the end of the video.
What is interesting to note is if you look at the first picture, you can tell that there should be an emergency door
to the left of Elisa in the video and no hallway as you can tell from the picture. In the beginning of the video
you can see that she was hiding from someone who was coming from that direction, to her left, but for some reason
when the elevator does not close she looks in both directions. There is not much to see to the left because the wall would have been a couple of feet away. Also you can tell that the button for the elevator would have also
been to her left. I am not sure about this but at one point I thought she had a smile on her face in the video.
When she steps out and starts making those gestures, it looks as though she is trying to stop the elevator door
from closing. After that it looked like she was counting fingers on her hand. Now the most interesting part
that I have noticed. Towards the end of the video if you pay attention to the way her right hand is raised
and the motion of her feet, it looks as though someone had grabbed her by her hair or was pulling her towards that
emergency door. Looking closely at the movement of her feet, you can see them overlap in an unatural motion. One
most associated of being dragged or pulled back to the side. Also as you all know if you press all the floors as
she had done, the elevator would have been going through all the floors and not make only 2 stops.
From this you can tell that she was very close to the top floor/roof. Reason for this being is because the looking
at the floor pattern the elevator moved down. Because in the beginning you can tell that there is a piece of the light you can see in the video which is the light hanging on the right side. When the elevator makes the first stop, you don't see that white spot anymore which is an indication that the elevator was moving down. The reason for this is because the last stop was the first floor based on the color pattern. She was not on drugs. You can tell from this video that she was in real distress and freaking out. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot. She was panicking. You can see the elevator in the second picture in the reflection of the mirror. She was 100% according to my theory at the very top floor! Tell me what your thoughts are on this.
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No possible way this could be just a coincidence. None. Zero. This is some dark sinister in-our-faces shit.
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somebody else brought up how this is the exact plot to an old horror film called Dark Waters.

the main characters are on the roof of a hotel looking for something, and they find a girl's body inside a water tank. this is a ridiculous "coincidence" of events if I've ever seen one.
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PLEASE WATCH "DARK WATER" JAPENES VERSION ON UTUBE.
ITS EXACTLY THE SAME DAMN STORY.

MOM AND DAUGHTER MOVE INTO SLEASY HOTEL/APT.

WATER 'TASTES FUNNY"

THERE A DEAD ASIAN GIRL IN THE WATER TANK.

THIS IS TOO WEIRD TO BE A COOINCEDECE.

PLEASE GET THIS INFO OUT THERE.

THIS IS SO FUCKED UP.
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THE MOM ALSO STRUGGLES WITH THE ELEVATOR. ALOT.
BIG PARTS OF THE MOVIE SHE CANT GET IT TO GO UP OR DOWN.
THE ELVATOR IS ALMOST ITS OWN CHARACTER.
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I was not aware the Japanese version was so much different than the American.

I fucking hate scary movies and this is one of my all-time most hated along with The Ring and The Grudge.

fuck these people are so sick..
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okie, just following along and thought i'd at least iron out a couple of issues: ELISA is a type of laboratory testing, and if you did your homework, you will have seen that by now. LAM is the name of the specific ELISA bio-assay test for a component of a tuberculin bacterium:

""This immunoassay kit allows for the in vitro quantitative determination of human Lipoarabinomannan,LAM concentrations in cell culture supernates, serum, plasma and other biological fluids.""

This test, the LAM-ELISA, represents a fast and efficient way means of detecting positive for infection of tuberculin bacterium, and is especially significant because of the importance of evaluating an HIV positive patient, especially among homeless or otherwise medically untreated and non-compliant individuals.

Why is this important? Because while tb is somewhat contagious to all, it is especially so to those with compromised immune systems, and is especially virulent in such a patient, who is at even higher risk of being lost to the system, and a vector to the community.

The earliest reference i found to the LAM-ELISA test was 2006-2007, a pediatric study.

As for 19-year old Elisa Lam, other than being Asian, she would not seem to have any risk factors for either HIV or tuberculosis. I mention Asian not as a risk factor, but because "silent" tuberculosis is more common in Asian countries, so anyone in regular contact with visitors to and from Asian countries has an elevated risk.

So, while the coincidence of her name and death alongside the "emergence" of a virulent form of TB approaches cosmic, it does not at all mean that she had even one bacillus of tuberculosis on or in her body, nor that this would create any risk to those who used the cistern water while her body decomposed there. This is why the testing was for the bacteria that would be associated with organic breakdown, basically coliform bacteria.
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