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ELISA LAM!! MUST READ!!! BREAKING!!!

 
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I give you a D on this post. She was panicking? She was smiling? People don't smile in panic mode. Smiling people play hide and seek. They play "boo!" gotcha.
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YOU CANT ENTER THE ROOF THERE IS A ELECTRONIC SECURITY LOCK. YOU NEED A PASSWORD TO ENTER. Sorry for the caps.

Anyway even if she could enter the roof. There must be some security lock or something on those tanks.
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What's the name of the movie where a girl is being drowned in a water tank on the roof of an appartment building? Dark water or something....
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It's called darkwater. There is an english and japanese version. Japanese is original.
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Elisa Lam Hotel Death: Video and Black Shower Water Raises Questions

Dark water!! Could there be a relation to the movie?
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I haven't read really anything about this other then she was found in a water tank in the hotel...

First off, she appeared to be on the third floor (if that was the ground floor when it last opened). She hit all the buttons at one point so it would have stopped at each floor on the way down. Elevators will first go in the direction they were originally signaled, so it's likely she hit the down button before getting on. Most people don't go up in a hotel unless it's from the lobby.

It's obvious that elevator was somehow being controlled. Not until she disappeared did it start to operate again. Then she gets found in a water cistern on the roof of the building? Roofs are always locked, especially in a place like Vegas where thoughts of suicide are likely rampant.

She heard or saw something that freaked her out, that much is obvious. And hotels these days usually only allow your key card to work on the floor you're staying on if you take the stairs. It's a security feature.

Elevator was somehow controlled, she was found on the roof and it seems like the murderer had access at least to the stairwell, if not her floor specifically...

I'd be looking at current and previous employees as suspects.
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Her BODY WAS FOUND INSIDE A FUCKING WATER TANK! I just watched some footage of where she was found and NO WAY IN FUCKING HELL WOULD SHE BE ABLE TO FALL IN THERE HERSELF. What you are saying is totally fucking stupid. She was not found for almost 22 days. It was the perfect spot. No smell and it would be the last place anyone would look. Who knows how long she could have been in that tank if no one reported anything.
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Dude -

It's not beyond the realm of possibility that a disoriented person would go to the roof of a hotel see a water tank and decide to take a swim.

If she may with foul play, presumably regardless of 22 days in the water her cause of death would be discoverable (except maybe forced drowning). Why wouldn't LE immediately and say she was strangled or beaten or stabbed.

BTW go F yourself Sherlock.
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You must be high and disoriented with the nonsense that you are saying. Just go and look at some pictures of those water reservoirs. You don't just take of the top and say im going for a swim. First off you need to climb a ladder to get to the top. Then you need to open a fucking hatch. That hatch is not that big. Now what you are trying to tell me is that a person FUCKED UP ON DRUGS AND DISORIENTED would go on the ROOF TOP, find those 4 water tanks and in their fucked up condition decide to CLIMB UP ONE OF THEM AND THEN TAKE A SWIM OR HIDE?
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IT'S POSSIBLE, NO? All of the reasons you listed are reasons why a murderer wouldn't decide to put her in a tank.

The one real mystery is how she got access to the roof
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....which makes it real obvious that she was the one who didn't have the access - ya think?

And why the fuck are the quotes all fucked up on here?
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I haven't read really anything about this other then she was found in a water tank in the hotel...

First off, she appeared to be on the third floor (if that was the ground floor when it last opened). She hit all the buttons at one point so it would have stopped at each floor on the way down. Elevators will first go in the direction they were originally signaled, so it's likely she hit the down button before getting on. Most people don't go up in a hotel unless it's from the lobby.

It's obvious that elevator was somehow being controlled. Not until she disappeared did it start to operate again. Then she gets found in a water cistern on the roof of the building? Roofs are always locked, especially in a place like Vegas where thoughts of suicide are likely rampant.

She heard or saw something that freaked her out, that much is obvious. And hotels these days usually only allow your key card to work on the floor you're staying on if you take the stairs. It's a security feature.

Elevator was somehow controlled, she was found on the roof and it seems like the murderer had access at least to the stairwell, if not her floor specifically...

I'd be looking at current and previous employees as suspects.
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yep this must be an insider job! and how the hell she got access to hotel roof ? it's impossible with out any help from employees
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Her BODY WAS FOUND INSIDE A FUCKING WATER TANK! I just watched some footage of where she was found and NO WAY IN FUCKING HELL WOULD SHE BE ABLE TO FALL IN THERE HERSELF. What you are saying is totally fucking stupid. She was not found for almost 22 days. It was the perfect spot. No smell and it would be the last place anyone would look. Who knows how long she could have been in that tank if no one reported anything.
 Quoting: westboundnup


Dude -

It's not beyond the realm of possibility that a disoriented person would go to the roof of a hotel see a water tank and decide to take a swim.

If she may with foul play, presumably regardless of 22 days in the water her cause of death would be discoverable (except maybe forced drowning). Why wouldn't LE immediately and say she was strangled or beaten or stabbed.

BTW go F yourself Sherlock.
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You must be high and disoriented with the nonsense that you are saying. Just go and look at some pictures of those water reservoirs. You don't just take of the top and say im going for a swim. First off you need to climb a ladder to get to the top. Then you need to open a fucking hatch. That hatch is not that big. Now what you are trying to tell me is that a person FUCKED UP ON DRUGS AND DISORIENTED would go on the ROOF TOP, find those 4 water tanks and in their fucked up condition decide to CLIMB UP ONE OF THEM AND THEN TAKE A SWIM OR HIDE?
 Quoting: westboundnup


IT'S POSSIBLE, NO? All of the reasons you listed are reasons why a murderer wouldn't decide to put her in a tank.

The one real mystery is how she got access to the roof
.
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^(westboundnup talking btw, not me)^
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....which makes it real obvious that she was the one who didn't have the access - ya think?

And why the fuck are the quotes all fucked up on here?



You don't need ACCESS to emergency doors. Obviously someone came out of the door. Look at the picture. It's an emergency door. It would provide access to the roof.
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I haven't read really anything about this other then she was found in a water tank in the hotel...

First off, she appeared to be on the third floor (if that was the ground floor when it last opened). She hit all the buttons at one point so it would have stopped at each floor on the way down. Elevators will first go in the direction they were originally signaled, so it's likely she hit the down button before getting on. Most people don't go up in a hotel unless it's from the lobby.

It's obvious that elevator was somehow being controlled. Not until she disappeared did it start to operate again. Then she gets found in a water cistern on the roof of the building? Roofs are always locked, especially in a place like Vegas where thoughts of suicide are likely rampant.

She heard or saw something that freaked her out, that much is obvious. And hotels these days usually only allow your key card to work on the floor you're staying on if you take the stairs. It's a security feature.

Elevator was somehow controlled, she was found on the roof and it seems like the murderer had access at least to the stairwell, if not her floor specifically...

I'd be looking at current and previous employees as suspects.
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yep this must be an insider job! and how the hell she got access to hotel roof ? it's impossible with out any help from employees
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you live in India, how the fuck do you know?
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Wow.
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YOU CANT ENTER THE ROOF THERE IS A ELECTRONIC SECURITY LOCK. YOU NEED A PASSWORD TO ENTER. Sorry for the caps.

Anyway even if she could enter the roof. There must be some security lock or something on those tanks.
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I now submit 2 videos of people having a blast on Hotel Cecil's rooftop in hopes to crush the talk about there being 'only one way to access the rooftop'.

There are 3 external fire escapes attached to the Hotel Cecil, all with access to the rooftop. You can see the fire escape ladders popping up, over, and on to the roof in a quick keyword search of google images or an address search using gargle maps.


aerial photo map.
[link to l8r_tard]

Also, it seems there may be no alarm in place on the doors leading to the fire escapes of Hotel Cecil.

Example A: These Complete JackAsses probably do not have any legitimate access to the roof:




Example B: These Other Folks... who knows:


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"Bernard Diaz, 89, a tenant of the Cecil’s third floor for 32 years, told the Los Angeles Times he’d heard a “tremendous” racket from the floor above on the night Lam disappeared. Police said the only routes to the roof where her body was found were via a fire escape, or a locked, alarmed door accessible only to hotel staff."

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
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Dude -

It's not beyond the realm of possibility that a disoriented person would go to the roof of a hotel see a water tank and decide to take a swim.

If she may with foul play, presumably regardless of 22 days in the water her cause of death would be discoverable (except maybe forced drowning). Why wouldn't LE immediately and say she was strangled or beaten or stabbed.

BTW go F yourself Sherlock.
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You must be high and disoriented with the nonsense that you are saying. Just go and look at some pictures of those water reservoirs. You don't just take of the top and say im going for a swim. First off you need to climb a ladder to get to the top. Then you need to open a fucking hatch. That hatch is not that big. Now what you are trying to tell me is that a person FUCKED UP ON DRUGS AND DISORIENTED would go on the ROOF TOP, find those 4 water tanks and in their fucked up condition decide to CLIMB UP ONE OF THEM AND THEN TAKE A SWIM OR HIDE?
 Quoting: westboundnup


IT'S POSSIBLE, NO? All of the reasons you listed are reasons why a murderer wouldn't decide to put her in a tank.

The one real mystery is how she got access to the roof
.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


^(westboundnup talking btw, not me)^
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....which makes it real obvious that she was the one who didn't have the access - ya think?

And why the fuck are the quotes all fucked up on here?
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You don't need ACCESS to emergency doors. Obviously someone came out of the door. Look at the picture. It's an emergency door. It would provide access to the roof.


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Well that's weird, usually an emergency door like this would set off an alarm if somebody opens it, especially on a high rooftop. Unless of course, someone disabled the alarm.
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YOU CANT ENTER THE ROOF THERE IS A ELECTRONIC SECURITY LOCK. YOU NEED A PASSWORD TO ENTER. Sorry for the caps.

Anyway even if she could enter the roof. There must be some security lock or something on those tanks.
 Quoting: Tigershield



I now submit 2 videos of people having a blast on Hotel Cecil's rooftop in hopes to crush the talk about there being 'only one way to access the rooftop'.

There are 3 external fire escapes attached to the Hotel Cecil, all with access to the rooftop. You can see the fire escape ladders popping up, over, and on to the roof in a quick keyword search of google images or an address search using gargle maps.


aerial photo map.
[link to l8r_tard]

Also, it seems there may be no alarm in place on the doors leading to the fire escapes of Hotel Cecil.

Example A: These Complete JackAsses probably do not have any legitimate access to the roof:




Example B: These Other Folks... who knows:


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Thank you so much for posting that. This just goes to show that there was someone there messing with her from the start. Someone pressed the button and then ran behind the emergency door. She is all confused until she hides near the panel and is clearly seen looking towards that exit door. And then she stands looking to the left. Why would she be looking to the left or making those gestures unless someone was there? There is nothing but a wall there. Someone got here there, and after whatever happened she was dumped in the water tank.
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BREAKING

Cecil hotel has a history of suicides. There were multiple cases of people jumping off the top floor of the building, back in the 1950s and 60s.

[link to www.ibtimes.co.uk]
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Maybe the illuminati needed to sacrifice someone with a name that connected to LAM Elisa. They probably found her thru pages like the one above. Then constant monitoring, and baiting, then the eventual sacrifice.
Going by her pics I don't think she looks like a meth addict.
Probably she was drunk or drugged.
Interesting to see where this leads to.
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I haven't read really anything about this other then she was found in a water tank in the hotel...

First off, she appeared to be on the third floor (if that was the ground floor when it last opened). She hit all the buttons at one point so it would have stopped at each floor on the way down. Elevators will first go in the direction they were originally signaled, so it's likely she hit the down button before getting on. Most people don't go up in a hotel unless it's from the lobby.

It's obvious that elevator was somehow being controlled. Not until she disappeared did it start to operate again. Then she gets found in a water cistern on the roof of the building? Roofs are always locked, especially in a place like Vegas where thoughts of suicide are likely rampant.

She heard or saw something that freaked her out, that much is obvious. And hotels these days usually only allow your key card to work on the floor you're staying on if you take the stairs. It's a security feature.

Elevator was somehow controlled, she was found on the roof and it seems like the murderer had access at least to the stairwell, if not her floor specifically...

I'd be looking at current and previous employees as suspects.
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yep this must be an insider job! and how the hell she got access to hotel roof ? it's impossible with out any help from employees
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you live in India, how the fuck do you know?
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unlike you i ahve been to places and stayed in hotels
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hmm, well it could be her, although i think this person looks to be a little bit older, perhaps as much as age 25. but who knows..
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I must say one thing. I have seen some crazy shit. Including some snuff videos and real decapitations and mutilations online before and from shit off the deep web. I HAVE never felt so CREEPED OUT IN MY LIFE as I have while watching this video. I don't know what it was, but it was in my gut while watching this. There is some extremely sinister about this video that just gives me the chills. I don't know what it is, but I never get these feelings watching movies or videos on the net of any kind. There is something so much more to this than a murder. I have learned over the years to listen to my gut and intuition. And my intuition is telling me this is not just a regular murder.
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I must say one thing. I have seen some crazy shit. Including some snuff videos and real decapitations and mutilations online before and from shit off the deep web. I HAVE never felt so CREEPED OUT IN MY LIFE as I have while watching this video. I don't know what it was, but it was in my gut while watching this. There is some extremely sinister about this video that just gives me the chills. I don't know what it is, but I never get these feelings watching movies or videos on the net of any kind. There is something so much more to this than a murder. I have learned over the years to listen to my gut and intuition. And my intuition is telling me this is not just a regular murder.
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Decapitation and mutilation videos are fucked up as it is. But you just admitted to watching snuff videos.

You're one sick son of a bitch and should probably have your eyes gouged out red hot needles.

Sick fucks like you are the exact type of person it takes to murder an innocent girl and dump her body in a water tank.

Fucking die.
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I must say one thing. I have seen some crazy shit. Including some snuff videos and real decapitations and mutilations online before and from shit off the deep web. I HAVE never felt so CREEPED OUT IN MY LIFE as I have while watching this video. I don't know what it was, but it was in my gut while watching this. There is some extremely sinister about this video that just gives me the chills. I don't know what it is, but I never get these feelings watching movies or videos on the net of any kind. There is something so much more to this than a murder. I have learned over the years to listen to my gut and intuition. And my intuition is telling me this is not just a regular murder.
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yep me too , i dont really care about these kida news . but im feeling some kinda attachment to elisa lam may be its coz she's chinese i love chinese japan korean girls . they are cute and stupid
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Imagine her being thrown in that water tank alive. Cant stand on the bottom and cant reach the latch up top. Pitch black, kicking and screaming while swimming for hours with no one to hear her. Finally she loses all energy and begins to slip below the water line.... Crying her face off. Pitch black. No one is coming to save her. She chokes several times before either giving up or losing consciousness. 3 weeks later....
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What's the name of the movie where a girl is being drowned in a water tank on the roof of an appartment building? Dark water or something....
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It's called darkwater. There is an english and japanese version. Japanese is original.
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The Dark Water movie seems to have many strange coincidences to this incident.




@ 30:15 she goes for a glass of water in the bathroom and it spews out hair chunks.

she speaks to the janitor about a water problem, which is a dark leak on the ceiling, dripping nasty black.

Room 9F seems to be repeatedly shown; another reader made a connection there to TB and more.
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I must say one thing. I have seen some crazy shit. Including some snuff videos and real decapitations and mutilations online before and from shit off the deep web. I HAVE never felt so CREEPED OUT IN MY LIFE as I have while watching this video. I don't know what it was, but it was in my gut while watching this. There is some extremely sinister about this video that just gives me the chills. I don't know what it is, but I never get these feelings watching movies or videos on the net of any kind. There is something so much more to this than a murder. I have learned over the years to listen to my gut and intuition. And my intuition is telling me this is not just a regular murder.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6250363


Decapitation and mutilation videos are fucked up as it is. But you just admitted to watching snuff videos.

You're one sick son of a bitch and should probably have your eyes gouged out red hot needles.

Sick fucks like you are the exact type of person it takes to murder an innocent girl and dump her body in a water tank.

Fucking die.
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I have watched only one snuff video. It was of these two crazy russian kids who killed about 17 people in russia. I was able to watch only about 1 minute before shutting it off. The decapitation shit that I saw was from the ongoing drug war in mexico. I don't watch snuff video for pleasure douche bag.
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I must say one thing. I have seen some crazy shit. Including some snuff videos and real decapitations and mutilations online before and from shit off the deep web. I HAVE never felt so CREEPED OUT IN MY LIFE as I have while watching this video. I don't know what it was, but it was in my gut while watching this. There is some extremely sinister about this video that just gives me the chills. I don't know what it is, but I never get these feelings watching movies or videos on the net of any kind. There is something so much more to this than a murder. I have learned over the years to listen to my gut and intuition. And my intuition is telling me this is not just a regular murder.
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I can sense the same thing. Certainly goes beyond a your typical 'ghost vid'
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Imagine her being thrown in that water tank alive. Cant stand on the bottom and cant reach the latch up top. Pitch black, kicking and screaming while swimming for hours with no one to hear her. Finally she loses all energy and begins to slip below the water line.... Crying her face off. Pitch black. No one is coming to save her. She chokes several times before either giving up or losing consciousness. 3 weeks later....
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i wish i was there tissue
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the Elisa Lam, LAM Elisa TB test connection is a bit strange.

[link to www.plosone.org]
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the Elisa Lam, LAM Elisa TB test connection is a bit strange.

[link to www.plosone.org]
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I have been reading about that just now. That is just fucking crazy. WHAT ARE THE FUCKING ODDS?
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I have watched only one snuff video. It was of these two crazy russian kids who killed about 17 people in russia. I was able to watch only about 1 minute before shutting it off. The decapitation shit that I saw was from the ongoing drug war in mexico (so that makes it less disturbing??). I don't watch snuff video for pleasure douche bag.
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I'm the douche bag? Did you even read what you just wrote?

Do the world a favor and kill yourself you defective piece of shit.
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Click on the '42 Traveller Photos' image and browse thru until you come to the pic of the star pattern symbol on the floor. (image #21)
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Watch the movie linked in this page>>
Discussion ongoing in this thread:
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